Casino Royale - 007 Movie

[Joe Siegler]

A few things were formally announced with James Bond today..

1) Pierce Brosnan is out for good. There's been a lot of ping-ponging about whether he was in or out, but this was the first time that EON (the people who make the 007 movies) have ever said anything about it, and they said he's out. Plus there was an announcement on Brosnan's site about it being over too, so he's gone.

2) The director of the movie is Martin Campbell - who has already directed one 007 movie before, that being 1995's Goldeneye.

3) The movie name will be Casino Royale. For years and years, Casino Royale was the one remaining movie that they never used from the old stable of Ian Fleming novels / short stories. The rights lied elsewhere, and a few years back when Sony was attempting to start their own chain of 007 movies based on some really ancient remake rights that belonged to Kevin McClory and the Casino Royale rights; that stuff was all settled in favor of EON, and EON gained legal and distribution rights to Casino Royale, as well as the other unofficial 007 movie "Never Say Never Again".

Other James Bond Thoughts of mine:

This brings up the really obvious question, who will be the next 007? No one really knows for sure, and there's a gajillion names being thrown around. Of the ones I've seen, I'd like either Ewan McGregor, or an actor who REALLY looks the part - Gerard Butler. When Pierce Brosnan took over in 1994, Timothy Dalton was still officially 007, as there was a 5 year break between License to Kill and Goldeneye. I remember when Dalton was announced as being out I was really annoyed - I did not want to like Brosnan, because I REALLY liked Dalton's portrayal. But Brosnan grew on me, and I ended up really liking him - to the point where I thought Die Another Day was an awesome movie. I really loved it.

So we're back to a new Bond with a story that should have been made ages ago. Granted, the real novel of Casino Royale is pretty minimalistic, as are a lot of the Fleming novels - if you've ever actually read any of them the spectacle that is a James Bond movie isn't there. I'll be real curious to see how much of the novel is on the screen. For example, the 1979 movie Moonraker had only the villian's name from the novel (Hugo Drax), and that's about IT. So the precendent is there for them to totally ignore the story and just use the name. However, I've been reading press saying that the producers want to take Bond back to the beginning to what made it good early on, so hopefully it won't be butchered to death - although some editing is inevitable.

Link:

http://www.commanderbond.net/Public/Stories/2656-1.shtml

For no reason other than me wanting to talk about it, here's some further background information on Never Say Never Again, Kevin McClory, and remakes...

Back when the original Ian Fleming novels were licensed, the only one that Broccoli and Saltzman (the original producers) couldn't get was Thunderball. That was snapped up by Kevin McClory. As part of the deal for EON to make Thunderball, McClory got a co producer credit, and also had the rights for three remakes of Thunderball. Not much happened with that (Thunderball came out in 1965) until 1983 when McClory finally did a remake, that being Never Say Never Again. The NSNA Bond was Sean Connery, who by all acounts felt slighted by Cubby Broccoli over $ related to Bond. So I believe Connery did it to "stick it" to the official franchse (which did quite well that year with Octo*****). Anyway, some years later Sony attempted to start their own rival francise to EON based on their acquired rights to the old Casino Royale story, and the rights that McClory was working with them on for Thunderball. However, a court found in complete favor of EON, and as of that result, McClory was awarded $1 I think, and all legal rights to both Casino Royale and Thunderball's remake rights went to EON, so they were in total control of the 007 franchise.

What's interesting is that while the Never Say Never Again movie could include all the characters (James Bond, M, Q, Moneypenny, etc), the things that made BOnd "Bond" (like "Shaken Not Stirred, the 007 gunbarrel logo, the gunbarrel sequence with the white dots at the start of every movie, the theme song), couldn't be used, so it kind of gave NSNA a way different feel.

[NutWrench]

Hopefully, it will be better than the original Casino Royale.

[Kyle_Katarn]

Remeber that the last time we saw Blofeld, it was in a pre-credits quickie sequence that didn't even name him? This was because of McClory, but now EON has the rights to the Blofeld name back, and I want to see 007 give him hell for the death of his beloved Tracy!

I'm excited, especially with the man that gave us GoldenEye at the helm!!!!!

[Farlander]

I always thought Ralph Fiennes would make a good Bond.

[Xiu]

Joe3DR said:
I'd like either Ewan McGregor



Please tell me your joking? Ewan McGregor as Bond, I fu**ing hope not, he doesn't have the look of Bond IMO and I'd be pissed if he were chosen. Bond has to look like a gentleman and not an old teenager! I wouldn't go and see a Bond movie with him as Bond ever! I ain't banging on Ewan coz I think he is a great actor "Trainspotting" or "Shallow Grave" being his best works to date, so i'll forgive him for Star Wars, which was a shitty performance by him tbh! Besides I'm tired of seeing non English people play an English character kinda like Kevin Costner playing one of Englands most loved characters, Robin Hood! The only English Bond is Roger Moore - Sean Connery(Scottish) Timothy Dalton(Welsh) George Lazenby(Austrailian)http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Pierce Brosnan(Irish) Roger Moore(English) Whatever next, we gonna have an American Bond?http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif As for Timothy Dalton I really wished he had done more coz he's the best Bond next to Connery obviously! He portrayed bond as a cold hearted killer, exactly like he is in the books! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Casino Royale was the first book written by Flemming on his Jamaican retreat called "GoldenEye" funnily enough. GoldenEye comes from Flemming's favourite type of of bird as he was an avid bird watcher. The name James Bond came from Flemming's favourite bird author, I shit you not! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Casino Royale is a 1967 spoof starring David Niven as Bond. The film also starred Peter Sellers, Ursula Andress(Dr.No Bond girl) Orson Welles and Woody Allen!

My tip for the new Bond is Clive Owen, he'll get the job you'll see! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Have you heard Robbie Williams wants to play Bond next! Hahahaha!! <---Get the fuk outta here! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Just one more thing I hope they do something with Felix Lighter(CIA) character like in License To Kill (Great Book Btw) coz he's a cool character and Bond's best friend so they really should do a story that has a lot of Felix init!

Here's a true story. I was a complete Bond nut when I was 15 so I sent a letter of to Whitehall(London) applying to become an MI6 operative for a laugh and to my amazment I actually got a reply saying basically that when I am 18 to send in my Curriculum Vita (CV - Resume) with a covering letter! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[AndOne]

i pick Antonio Banderas, funny Xiu has his pic as his avatar. I just figured that we have had a wide range of cultures for the past Bonds why not this new one. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Xiu]

That's not Antonio in my avatar, it's me trying to impersonate him! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Well i'm against non English people playing English characters. I actually wouldn't mind Antonio playing Bond at all! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif I know I might sound like I'm being way over protective with this but wouldn't it annoy you (Americans) if Bob Hoskins played Abraham Lincoln? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[AndOne]

Bob who? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Just kidding i know who he is, Roger Rabbit.

I just think that trying to force someone who isn't Bond-like would not do justice to the franchise.

I never like Timothy as Bond until i actually gave a Liscense to a Kill a real chance. I grew to like him. But again he has to have that persona like Bond to play Bond.

[Xiu]

AndOne said:
I just think that trying to force someone who isn't Bond-like would not do justice to the franchise.




I agree and Ewan certainly ain't Bond like to me. He might make a good 00 operative though?

TBH I'd rather have Tom Cruise than Ewan! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I forget right now, but wasn't Benicio Del Toro in "Licence To Kill"? (1989)

[AndOne]

Yup, I pointed that out to my wife and she flipped. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Xiu]

Cool man, I thought he was, but I can't remember how he dies off the top of my head? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif All I can remember of him is his sinister smiling grimice! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Funny what stays with ya! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Nessus]

I heard Colin Farrels name bandied about. He's a little rough around the edges, that would have to be some acting job!

Bond needs to be cultured and smooth, Ewan Mcregror might pull it off but Id rather they found some unknown who was born to the part. I always liked Roger Moore.

[Joe Siegler]

NutWrench said:
Hopefully, it will be better than the original Casino Royale.



Duh - that was a joke. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Joe Siegler]

Kyle_Katarn said:
Remeber that the last time we saw Blofeld, it was in a pre-credits quickie sequence that didn't even name him? This was because of McClory, but now EON has the rights to the Blofeld name back, and I want to see 007 give him hell for the death of his beloved Tracy!

I'm excited, especially with the man that gave us GoldenEye at the helm!!!!!



Well, it would also require the use of the SMERSH organization, which I think is outdated in 2005 - wasn't it partly Blofeld, and partly Russians?

Either way, it's nice to see it finally get a good movie attempt, not the two that have come before.

[Ecmaster76]

Perhaps the movie could be set in the time frame of the original story. I mean, Bond is timeless after all. The only problem might be what timeframe the next movie would be in and whether or not to reuse the lead actor.

I have actually read Casino Royale BTW. Its kind of a downer actually. I never felt the same about rakes after that.

[Marty]

awesome, i think Martin Campbell did a great job with Goldeneye, and he makes some decent action movies (mask of zorro, Verticle Limit).
i reckon Jude Law would make a good Bond.

[Xiu]

Ecmaster76 said:Bond is timeless after all.



Nah! Shakespere is timeless! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm not kidding, I'm telling ya now Clive Owen is gonna ge the job, you'll see! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Jude Law as Bond, behave! He ain't sophistacated enough, I'd make a better Bond than him! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Marty]

just as long as its not an actor where little girls go see the movie for him rather than the movie. f*** that gets annoying when that happens.

[Xiu]

^^^Titanic anyone! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Marty]

Pirates of the Carribean anyone?

[Xiu]

^^^Yeah fooking Orlando Bloom--->Bastard! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm not kidding this is the guy! He's cool, charming, sophisticated, a great actor and he's English! \o/--->

[Xiu]

Here he is again! --->

[Xiu]

Ok, last one! This is a FilmFour(Channel4-UK - 1998) film I think? It's quite a good film, Alex Kingston is great but not as good as Queen Boudica she played in 2003! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif --->

[toadsponge]

While Clive Own is the obvious choice, I think they should go with someone a little less pretty, like Sean Bean, for instance.

[Orochi Avlis]

toadsponge said:
While Clive Own is the obvious choice, I think they should go with someone a little less pretty, like Sean Bean, for instance.


Sean Bean was the badguy in Goldeneye, so no go there.

[IwantMORE]

I would go for Vinnie Jones now that would be a different kind of bond http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Kyle_Katarn]

Joe3DR said:

Kyle_Katarn said:
Remeber that the last time we saw Blofeld, it was in a pre-credits quickie sequence that didn't even name him? This was because of McClory, but now EON has the rights to the Blofeld name back, and I want to see 007 give him hell for the death of his beloved Tracy!

I'm excited, especially with the man that gave us GoldenEye at the helm!!!!!



Well, it would also require the use of the SMERSH organization, which I think is outdated in 2005 - wasn't it partly Blofeld, and partly Russians?

Either way, it's nice to see it finally get a good movie attempt, not the two that have come before.



Actually Blofeld was with SPECTRE, an international crime ring. SMERSH was the Russian orginization to kill spies (enemies and traitors to Russia I think). I think the only movie with SMERSH was The Living Daylights, and it wasn't really them. The 'defector' framed the head of the KGB by telling MI6 he was re-activating SMERSH, to trick Bond into killing him.

In the books, though, SMERSH was used quite a bit, I think.

And I would LOVE a Bond 'period piece' - set in the 50's, classic Bentley, Beretta .25 automatic and all!!!! I doubt it would happen bu it would be cool!!!

[toadsponge]

Orochi Avlis said:

toadsponge said:
While Clive Own is the obvious choice, I think they should go with someone a little less pretty, like Sean Bean, for instance.


Sean Bean was the badguy in Goldeneye, so no go there.



Nah, that's no problem. There was that black dude who was in all the Dirty Harry movies, and played a different character in each one.

[Joe Siegler]

Nah, that's no problem. There was that black dude who was in all the Dirty Harry movies, and played a different character in each one.



That is a problem. Sean Bean can't really be 007 after he'd already been 006 and a major movie villian.

I know there was something like this already in 007 movies - Joe Don Baker played a villian in The Living Daylights, and then was in Goldeneye and TWINE as a CIA guy, but he wasn't trying to be 007, either. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Pansa]

Xiu said:

Ecmaster76 said:Bond is timeless after all.




I'm not kidding, I'm telling ya now Clive Owen is gonna ge the job, you'll see! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif




seconded

[toadsponge]

Joe3DR said:

Nah, that's no problem. There was that black dude who was in all the Dirty Harry movies, and played a different character in each one.



That is a problem. Sean Bean can't really be 007 after he'd already been 006 and a major movie villian.



So fans are willing to accept that Bond has actually been five different guys who look nothing like each other, but not that he could be played by a former Bond villain? I don't get it.

[Joe Siegler]

So fans are willing to accept that Bond has actually been five different guys who look nothing like each other, but not that he could be played by a former Bond villain?



Exactly.

[London_Midge]

As long as it's not Colin Farrel, I'll keep an open mind.

[Xiu]

Yeah as much as I like Colin Farrel, I don't think he suits Bond tbh!

I would like to see Patrick Stewart as "M"

Eric Bana might make a good Bond I know he's Austrailian but they've done it before.

The worst possible choice to play Bond would have to be Hugh Grant or Rupert Everett! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'd like to see Kate Backinsale or Thandie Newton(MI2) as the next bond girl! <-- Class! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

As much as I like/respect John Cleese I'd rather see Michael Caine as "Q"

How they haven't used Gary Oldman as an English Bond villian yet is beyond me. He plays sinister/neurotic twisted bad guys so well! Leon anyone. Or Alan Rickman would be a good choice!

I think Tim Roth or Jason Statham would make a great 00 agent, speaking of agents I'd like to see more of an CIA involvment but not Jack Wade someone cooler and more sophisticated/smart looking, Christian Bale would fit this role down to the ground! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

My favourite English actor ever. Gary Oldman! --->

[Grande 3:16]

Kyle_Katarn said:
Remeber that the last time we saw Blofeld, it was in a pre-credits quickie sequence that didn't even name him? This was because of McClory, but now EON has the rights to the Blofeld name back, and I want to see 007 give him hell for the death of his beloved Tracy!


I always thought that was a pretty stupid sequence. I would rather had seen him as the main villain one last time and get finished off properly.


Xiu said:I forget right now, but wasn't Benicio Del Toro in "Licence To Kill"? (1989)

For ages I didn't know his name, so when I'd see him in other movies I'd just call him the "Honeymooooooon" guy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Joe3DR said:That is a problem. Sean Bean can't really be 007 after he'd already been 006 and a major movie villian.

I know there was something like this already in 007 movies - Joe Don Baker played a villian in The Living Daylights, and then was in Goldeneye and TWINE as a CIA guy, but he wasn't trying to be 007, either. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

And don't forget that Charles Gray was Blofeld in Diamonds are Forever, even though he had played a different character in You Only Live Twice.


Xiu said:As much as I like/respect John Cleese I'd rather see Michael Caine as "Q"

I was disappointed with John Cleese. When I first heard he was going to be Q's replacement, I thought he was a perfect choice. But Desmond Llewelyn's Q took pride in showing off his gadgets, while John Cleese just seems like he's a salesman. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[shiranui]

Personally, I can't think of anyone who fits the bill right now.

according to this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4221779.stm) Dougray Scott is in the running too.
Jude Law might have been ok, but he is a little too boyish.

[Dr.Dude]

Cool, Casino Royale was always my favorite of Ian Fleming's Bond books.

Clive Owen still strikes me as the best choice for the new 007, despite that I seem to remember him making some comments in the past that seem to imply that he wouldn't be interested. But I can still hope... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Xiu]

Yeah man, I hope Clive Owen wants it and gets it coz Jude Law ain't no Bond and niether is Ewan, no offense! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I'd rather have Jet Li or Chow Yun Fat! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Joe Siegler]

Still think you guys should look up Gerard Butler.

Also, am I the only one who would want Ewan McGregor?

[Tedski]

Joe3DR said:
Still think you guys should look up Gerard Butler.

Also, am I the only one who would want Ewan McGregor?



I reckon so. He is something of a short-arse too, which to my mind doesn't really fit the Bond persona. I do realise that this shouldn't be that much of a problem with current filming techniques, but I would know it just the same. I think he's a damn fine actor, but I just don't think he's right for Bond.

[Piano Man]

I have an interesting idea on who I would like to see play James Bond... Many of you might think I'm nuts (except for the british hopefully) but I would like to see...

ROBBIE WILLIAMS (Please don't hit me.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif)

But I think he has the perfect British Charm, suave sophistication and might be good for the part.

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If you still think I'm nuts... How about Thomas Jane??? From the punisher??? He wouldn't be too bad I think.... Anyone but Ralph Fines... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif and Clive Owen is DEFINATELY not going to be bond... If he does - It will ruin everything. but Dougray Scott.... I could live with him... He was good in MI 2

[Kronx]

Ewan McGregor would be the perfect James Bond ... if the movie was about James Bond in college. He just still looks too young. If he can look a bit more mature, then he'd get my vote.

Even if you scroll through some of the new Star Wars: ROTS pics, he still look syoung (even with the beard).

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8333

But I DO agree that he would make an excellent Bond, in about 5-10 years. And, I'd almost rather wait 5-10 years and have a good Bond, than put up with an inferior one.

Let's face it Bond movies have been in a rut. PB was an excellent Bond, but I don't think he has had a good run of movies. Die Another Day had a decent beginning, but it almost became self-parody. It had a giant space laser for crying out loud. All it needed was mini-me.

They need to throw away the Bond movie template and get a few fresh ideas.

[Farlander]

piano_man15 said:
Anyone but Ralph Fines... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif



What's wrong with Ralph? He seems like he'd made a far better Bond than Robbie Williams. Actually, Robbie Williams can't play Bond, because Freddie Mercury never did http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Simon Charles]

Liam Neeson. (Kidding, I just like the guy.)

A shame Timothy Dalton wasn't in more movies. He's my favourite Bond.

[Piano Man]

Whats wrong with Ralph Fiennes??? Here's the problem...

http://www.ralphfiennes-jenniferlash.com/grayshirt.jpg

2 Words: No way... He just doesn't suit the bond part... Plus - I don't think he can pull it off... Plus he has done quite a few flop movies... Do I have to mention 'The Avengers'??? One of the worst movies of all time... PLUS... He'll probably be busy with Harry Potter 4 Movie. (and possibly 5, 6 and 7.

[Grande 3:16]

Kronx said:Let's face it Bond movies have been in a rut. PB was an excellent Bond, but I don't think he has had a good run of movies. Die Another Day had a decent beginning, but it almost became self-parody. It had a giant space laser for crying out loud. All it needed was mini-me.

I actually thought Die Another Day was probably the best one in about 20 years. The giant space laser was just a Diamonds are Forever rehash, but that kind of gave it an old-school feel.


piano_man15 said:
I have an interesting idea on who I would like to see play James Bond... Many of you might think I'm nuts (except for the british hopefully) but I would like to see...

ROBBIE WILLIAMS (Please don't hit me.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif)

But I think he has the perfect British Charm, suave sophistication and might be good for the part.


I wouldn't want to see him as Bond, but I think he could probably crank out a decent Bond theme tune.

[Marty]

more news:

In his first interview since Eon's recent announcement, "Casino Royale" director Martin Campbell delivered some tantalising hints to The New York Daily News and CommanderBond.Net of what we can expect in 007's new cinematic adventure.

According to Campbell, the new film will take the storyline from Fleming's original novel (the first Bond adventure) and give it a contemporary update - "There are things that will have to be changed from the original novel. The Cold War elements will have to be reconfigured, for example, but Casino Royale will be a grittier, tougher and more realistic Bond movie. We'll be getting away from the huge visual effects kind of films."

The big change though it seems is the franchise may be doing a restart with a younger Bond but keeping it in modern times (much like the way "The Sum of All Fears" restarted the Jack Ryan franchise) - "In the new film, Bond is essentially starting out in his career, and has just recently become part of the double-0 section. The idea is to put a bit of the dash back in Bond. By the end of the movie, the character will have been forged into the wiser, harder Bond we know."

Bond's romance with Vesper Lynd from Fleming's novel will be covered - "The door is open for Bond, emotionally. He's in love with Vesper and he sees there's another side to all of this, that life might be far more pleasurable, more gratifying, than being a secret agent. And ultimately that door is slammed in his face, which makes him the tempered steel kind of guy that we know. I'm looking forward to humanising Bond a bit."

Finally, the infamous torture sequence involving a moment where Bond is on the very brink of a castration for which the book is most well-known - "I don't know what we're going to do about that. It ranks up there with the teeth-drilling scene in Marathon Man."

[Dr.Dude]

Sounds like its taking a vaguely Batman Begins-esque approach, by going back to nearly the start of the character's "career", and in turn being more faithful to his origins by using a grittier, more realistic tone. Which is a good thing, because I think it's fairly necessary to have a younger (or more importantly, less-experienced) Bond combined with far less of the special effects gadgets we've seen in the recent movies, to adapt the book Casino Royale well...in other words, going back to 007's roots more or less.

Which I couldn't be more happy about. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Can't wait for more info on the movie to come out.

In any case, right now I'm hoping that the movie has the book's climatic card game scene, in some form or another.

[Joe Siegler]

I read yesterday where Judi Dench said she's going to carry on as M, which is good.

Samantha Bond (Pierce's Moneypenny) said ages ago that when Pierce goes, she goes, too. I would like to see her stay on a bit longer, though.

[Piano Man]

Sadly enough, with a new bond, I think they should whole new actors playing the different parts. Apart from Desmond llewyn, everyone else changed when the bond changed.

Having said that, they BETTER get someone good to play bond and if they choose Eric Bana??? I'm going to become a worshipper of Satan.

[Logic Bomb]

There have been worst bond actors then the current rumored lineup.

- LB

[Destroyer]

I really cant see ewen megregor as bond.

[Piano Man]

There aren't any worse than Eric Bana...

(You can imagine the scene where Bond goes into a fine bar, and says 'The Names Bond, James Bond... I'll have a Beeeer thanks mate.!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif I don't fu#$ing think so.

[pjohnsonjr]

Well time to put the Who's Bond issue to rest...

Daniel Craig will be playing 007 in the next film, Casino Royale.

Guess we'll see how this guy does... he could be a multi-movie Bond or he can be the next George Lazenby. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Vivi]

Apparently a hoax...

http://imdb.com/title/tt0381061/board/nest/17433779

Some have even said Orlando Bloom would be the new bond.
Yuck.

Edit: Yep, apparently it will be Daniel Craig
http://imdb.com/name/nm0185819/

Shucks, I wanted Clive Owen.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=st...q3v55sbb_photo0 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1756&e=3&u=/050406/photos_ennew_afp/050406114945_q3v55sbb_photo0)

[Ecmaster76]

Looks a little more ... stern than I would expect of a Bond, but I would have to see him in the part to pass final judgement.

At least he is British (though a VERY good non-british actor could pull it)

[Tedski]

He's probably got it, assuming it's true, on the strength of his performance in Layer Cake - which I thoroughly recommend as a good m ovie to watch. If you watch it you'll see that he should be able to carry Bond nps.

[pjohnsonjr]

After British news reports Daniel Craig as landing the role, they're saying Brosnan might be back! I don't know what goes back and forth more, the bond decision or a see-saw... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Piano Man]

I must say - BBC said that he (Daniel Craig) was likely to play Bond.... and I'm really disappointed if they do.

BBC usually have very good sources, so I wonder what will happen... I wanted Dougray Scott or Robbie Williams to play the part (or possibly Ewan McGregor)

[LeadBullet]

Weird. Pierce Brosnan is 52, and the new guy is is only 37. But for some reason Pierce Brosnan looks years younger than the one in that yahoo story.

[BioHazard]

Seems like a good choice to me, though I never liked Brosnan as Bond for some reason.

[avatar_58]

The new 007 film has a problem: it can't find a James Bond
TIME is running out for James Bond. Filming of the next 007 movie, Casino Royale, is scheduled to start within 12 weeks but the makers have no script, no Miss Moneypenny and nobody to play Britain’s most enduring spy, writes John Harlow.



Source (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1763856,00.html)

Who will be the next bond? Personally I think they should have stuck with Pierce Brosnan, as he was a great bond. In fact Quentin Tarantino wanted to direct a new movie with him starring...but since they canned him he doesn't want anything to do with it.

[Nacho]

Pierce didn't want to do another I heard. Sad to see him go.

[Dave-ros]

They should make him do it - IMO he is Bond! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

Sean Connery, pah, he's a Scotsman, and Roger Moore's helpless if you shave off his eyebrows. And then there's that other one no-one remembers... what was his name? Timothy Dalton? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

How about Christopher Ecclestone for Bond? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Ivan]

Nacho said:
Pierce didn't want to do another I heard. Sad to see him go.



Indeed, he was my favourite Bond.

I just hope Britney Spears doen't play the Bond Girl while being pregnant. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Tang Lung]

Dave-ros said:
How about Christopher Ecclestone for Bond? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif



NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

I have a bad feeling that whoever it's going to be will be a huge dissapointment, I remeber when Robbie Williams said he wanted to play James Bond. The only person I can see as Bond is Christian Bale..but that's because he seems to be the only british actor we have now who actually doesnt look or sound like a total wimp.

[Marty]

i think someone should make Brosnan to play 007 again. im talking death threats, that kinda stuff. i dont want some girly man

[BioHazard]

They should just bite the bullet and go with some unknown actor, rather than trying to get big names for the role.

I think though if the next film is as bad as "Die Another Day" was then the franchise will probably end up killing itself anyway, imho.

[Synti]

Or they should let Tarantino direct the next one so Brosnan would play Bond.

[GodBlitZor]

Henry Winkler.

[JackpotDen]

Tom Jane

Edward Norton

Hugh Jackman

Johny Depp

[LeadBullet]

So is are these suggestions for people that you seriously think fit the role of James Bond? Or just a list of names you are able to remember?

[Dave-ros]

GodBlitZor said:
Henry Winkler.


http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif Sit on it, Mr. G!!!!!!

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[GodBlitZor]

Now that is bond http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

http://photos.allcelebs.us/henry-winkler/big-photo/henry-winkler_0001.jpg

[Paroxysm]

hmmmm how about Cillian Murphy(28 days later, batman begins, red eye)? Certainly a charasmatic blighter on screen although he'd be a younger bond.... hmmmm....

[Dave-ros]

Henry Winkler... well, he's already got women wrapped around his little finger - and he won't need Q's gadgets, he can just hit Blofeld's supercomputer in the right spot, snap his fingers, go "'eyyy!", and the evil plan for world domination will turn into a huge 1950s-style party!

Or possibly not... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[GodBlitZor]

Obviously a joke, but Winkler is cool. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Ive liked the Fonz since I was like 4, greatest TV character ever, very recognisable too.

[biXen]

Might as well get Ewan McGregor. Connery is easily the best Bond, Moore just goes around grinning, but he's in some of the cooler stories. Dalton was useless, and Brosnan looks like a dumbass and acts like one.

[Steve]

What about the Aussie dude that plays wolverine? I can't be bothered finding out his name.

[Travis]

Steve said:
What about the Aussie dude that plays wolverine? I can't be bothered finding out his name.



Hugh Jackman? As Bond, I dunno.

[Dave-ros]

How about Russell Crowe or Mel Gibson... nah http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

We need someone young, or at least young-looking (I think Brosnan is old enough that he tried for the role of Bond back in the 1970s or something similar).

Hell, I'll do it if they really need someone... I know, I know, it's a lousy job but someone's gotta do it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Besides, I really need the money...

[Steve]

Travis said:

Steve said:
What about the Aussie dude that plays wolverine? I can't be bothered finding out his name.



Hugh Jackman? As Bond, I dunno.


I'd think he'd make a great Bond.

[JackpotDen]

LeadBullet said:
So is are these suggestions for people that you seriously think fit the role of James Bond? Or just a list of names you are able to remember?



Tom Jane - Punisher in a suit.

Edward Norton - Bit of muscle, will fit right in.

Hugh Jackman - Already been in a ****load of action films, and can get haircut, shave, and wear a tux

Johny Depp - there isnt a role this guy can't play. From gay shipmate to hunter s thompson to willy wonka

[pjohnsonjr]

Dave-ros said:
How about Russell Crowe or Mel Gibson... nah http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

We need someone young, or at least young-looking (I think Brosnan is old enough that he tried for the role of Bond back in the 1970s or something similar).

Hell, I'll do it if they really need someone... I know, I know, it's a lousy job but someone's gotta do it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Besides, I really need the money...



You're thinking about Timothy Dalton. He tried out around the time Roger Moore did, but they deemed him too young. It was only after Moore left the role that Dalton got his chance in two films, but critics dinged the films.

Pierce could of easily played Bond at the time Dalton was casted, but he was busy with Remmington Steel.

Honestly this is probably going to push production back if they can't find one within the next month.

[Piano Man]

Dave-ros said:
Sean Connery, pah, he's a Scotsman, and Roger Moore's helpless if you shave off his eyebrows. And then there's that other one no-one remembers... what was his name? Timothy Dalton? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

How about Christopher Ecclestone for Bond? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif



SEAN CONNERY was the BEST BOND!!!

ROGER MOORE was awful and very cheesy.
Timothy Dalton should have done more than 2 movies...
George Lazenby is the guy who completely sucked. No one remembers him.... HELL I couldn't even remember his name - I had to look it up.

I will KILL Myself if Christopher Eccleston does Bond. I still say Robbie Williams or Ewen McGregor.

[Paroxysm]

Dalton was awesome, his movies just sucked. Brosnan I think is best, unfortunately his movies mostly sucked too.

[shiranui]

Paroxysm said:
Dalton was awesome, his movies just sucked. Brosnan I think is best, unfortunately his movies mostly sucked too.



I liked Dalton in "the living daylights".
Had the game for the ZX-Spectrum too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[pjohnsonjr]

shiranui said:

Paroxysm said:
Dalton was awesome, his movies just sucked. Brosnan I think is best, unfortunately his movies mostly sucked too.



I liked Dalton in "the living daylights".
Had the game for the ZX-Spectrum too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



I didn't like how in that movie they had Joe Don Baker as the bad guy, then 2 films later in Goldeneye he was another character and this time helping Bond. Most people caught that were Bond Fanatics caught on to that.

[avatar_58]

pjohnsonjr said:
I didn't like how in that movie they had Joe Don Baker as the bad guy, then 2 films later in Goldeneye he was another character and this time helping Bond. Most people caught that were Bond Fanatics caught on to that.



Goldenye is my fav bond...been trying to find myself a dvd copy. I don't feel like buying the collections, unless I find them cheap.

[Frenkel]

I don't believe they still don't have an actor to play James Bond. I think it's just another scheme to get some publicity.

I think they already have an actor to play James Bond for like 2 years, but they still say they need to find one. They tried this scheme more than 65 years ago with Gone with the Wind and it worked.

[BioHazard]

Speculation over, they gave the role to Julian Clary.

[Dave-ros]

Permadeath said:
Speculation over, they gave the role to Julian Clary.


So he'll be bedding Bond Men instead? And goodbye tuxedo, hello extravagant transvestisism and eye shadow...

"Are you pleased to see me, or is that just an enormous penis?" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

http://www.julianclary.net/

[Piano Man]

Permadeath said:
Speculation over, they gave the role to Julian Clary.



AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!

THATS IT... I'm killing myself...



[splat]

(Yes I know it was a joke, but How can you joke giving it to Julian Clary???? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif )

[Imfamous]

Billy Boyd (Merry from LotR) would be near ideal.

And Denise Richards should play the Bond girl again.

[Grande 3:16]

Permadeath said:I think though if the next film is as bad as "Die Another Day" was then the franchise will probably end up killing itself anyway, imho.

I actually thought Die Another Day was one of the best in about 20 years.

[dudetheman19]

Daniel Craig is the new james bond. IMO he doesnt seem like the right pick :-(

source: http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=315621

[Mountain Man]

I was hoping for Ewan McGregor. That new guy looks a bit odd for James Bond. I've never pictured Bond having ears that stick out.

[Dave-ros]

Chris Ecclestone's ears stick out, and we all accepted him as another great British hero with many incarnations... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I have to say, "Casino Royale" is rather a dull title for a Bond movie - I know it's one of the original Ian Fleming novels, but still... couldn't they have put the word "kill" in there somewhere, or called it "James Bond and the Casino of Doom"? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[mysteryperfecta]

I see what you're saying. However, I saw the movie Layer Cake recently, and it makes me feel a little better about that choice, if accurate.

[X-Vector]

Going by that picture, the ladykiller aspect is blatantly absent.

[Joe Siegler]

dudetheman19 said:
Daniel Craig is the new james bond. IMO he doesnt seem like the right pick :-(

source: http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=315621



False.

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=2889

[ADM]

Joe3DR said:

dudetheman19 said:
Daniel Craig is the new james bond. IMO he doesnt seem like the right pick :-(

source: http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=315621



False.

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=2889



Thought so. Can't believe the British tabloids.

[Tedski]

ADM said:

Joe3DR said:

dudetheman19 said:
Daniel Craig is the new james bond. IMO he doesnt seem like the right pick :-(

source: http://ekstrabladet.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=315621



False.

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=2889



Thought so. Can't believe the British tabloids.



LOL - the first quote is from a Danish site. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Mountain Man]

Dave-ros said:
Chris Ecclestone's ears stick out, and we all accepted him as another great British hero with many incarnations... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Yes, but the character he portrayed isn't generally perceived as a dapper fellow. Given the character, you might even say his ears were an asset!

[avatar_58]

Why don't they just cave and use Pierce Brosnan?

[laffer]

He doesn't want to I think. And there are limits to how much they can pay actors (even though that may be hard to believe http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif).

[Joe Siegler]

laffer said:
He doesn't want to I think. And there are limits to how much they can pay actors (even though that may be hard to believe http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif).



Wrong again. Keep up with the news. Brosnan is currently saying he wants to do it again, and says his monetary demands wouldn't be excessive, and he views 007 as "unfinished business".

[laffer]

This time I'm GLAD to be wrong! I really hope they can use him for the next Bond movie too, that would be awesome!

[X-Vector]

I think "The Rock" should be the next James Bond.

[Nacho]

Joe3DR said:
Wrong again. Keep up with the news. Brosnan is currently saying he wants to do it again, and says his monetary demands wouldn't be excessive, and he views 007 as "unfinished business".



Yes, he thinks there's much that could be fixed. On thing is that he hates the sex scenes and he thinks they should be taken to the next level.

[Piano Man]

X-Vector said:
I think "The Rock" should be the next James Bond.



OKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!! Stay of the drugs....

[walks away non-chalantly]

[laffer]

I rememeber there was talk of having a black guy be Bond. I would hate that because Bond is supposed to be a white guy, even when the actors change, he is supposed to be the same guy within the story.

[Vivi]

It's like the movie Rush Hour and Rush Hour 2. You can't just change Detective Carter from a black guy to a white dude. It doesn't work.

[Kalki]

I think black people can act in white roles and vice versa. Sidney Poitier might have made a good James Bond. But the reason you don't do it is because the character has an identity that's been established over generations of movie goers. Also when you make Bond black, it sort of changes his assumed background a bit especially if the filmmakers let it. Look what Will Smith did to James West.

[Mountain Man]

Joe3DR said:
Brosnan is currently saying he wants to do it again, and says his monetary demands wouldn't be excessive, and he views 007 as "unfinished business".


As I understand it, he was unexpectedly and unceremoniously dumped by the studio. He got a call out of the blue and they basically fired him over the phone, which kinda sucks. It's a shame because he was a great James Bond

[Mountain Man]

Vivi said:
It's like the movie Rush Hour and Rush Hour 2. You can't just change Detective Carter from a black guy to a white dude. It doesn't work.


Or turn Shaft into a white guy!

[shiranui]

Christian Bale, perhaps

[Joe Siegler]

laffer said:
This time I'm GLAD to be wrong! I really hope they can use him for the next Bond movie too, that would be awesome!



He may yet end up being 007, but the statement that was posted claimed it was announced. It was not.

[Joe Siegler]

BTW, the official Bond announcement is coming tomorrow.

http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_21_007_6_prerelease.php3?t=bond21&s=bond21

[SyntaxN]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif
Don´t looks like a Bond in any way imo...
I think he looks a little bit like a russian in some way, nothing against russians but that don´t fits^^
Brosnan was perfect, anyway, no Bond movie will every beat Goldeneye for sure...sadly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[avatar_58]

SyntaxN said:
Brosnan was perfect, anyway, no Bond movie will every beat Goldeneye for sure...sadly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



I have to agree....goldeneye was one of my favs.

[Joe Siegler]

avatar_58 said:

SyntaxN said:
Brosnan was perfect, anyway, no Bond movie will every beat Goldeneye for sure...sadly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



I have to agree....goldeneye was one of my favs.



Uh, the aboslute best 007 movie was the third one back in 1964, Goldfinger. That is the essential 007 movie.

But I've seen some pics of Daniel Craig online that I can sort of see him. Look around a bit. Thing is, even if it s Craig, I won't (unlike some people here) critisize him until I see his first movie. THe reason for that is I wanted to really dislike Brosnan. I was a major (and still am) fan of Timothy Dalton's performance. To me, he's most like the Bond of Fleming's novels. Even moreso than Connery was. So whoever came after Dalton I was determined not to like, because I wanted Dalton to remain. I couldn't help it, Brosnan was too good.

So I won't automatically put up a roadblock in front of the new guy. I won't judge him until he has a movie out. Neither shoud you. The pictures of him out there now shoulnd't matter. It's how he looks in the tux, with the gun, with what makes Bond bond.

Now I realize they're aiming for a "Batman Begins" feel here with Casino Royale. The idea here is to make it like one of 007's first missions, and be pretty faithful to the original book. So it might not feel exactly the same, but I would put that on intentional script stuff, and not the actor's performance.

To be honest, of all the names I've seen tossed around, the one I personally want is Goran Visnjic.

Here's a pic of him from ER (http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=2533), his most known role.

Here's a pic where he looks more "Bondish" (http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_21_report_aug05.php3?t=bond21&s=bond21).

[Nacho]

Joe3DR said:
To be honest, of all the names I've seen tossed around, the one I personally want is Goran Visnjic.

Here's a pic of him from ER (http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=2533), his most known role.

Here's a pic where he looks more "Bondish" (http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_21_report_aug05.php3?t=bond21&s=bond21).



THAT is the perfect guy to play Bond.

[laffer]

He looks ok.
Anyway, one of the James Bond movies I like the best is "Live and let Die".. there's just something about that movie.
And I think Roger Moore is great too.. of course not as good as Connery, but I think he's good.

[avatar_58]

Joe3DR said:
To be honest, of all the names I've seen tossed around, the one I personally want is Goran Visnjic.

Here's a pic of him from ER (http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=2533), his most known role.

Here's a pic where he looks more "Bondish" (http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_21_report_aug05.php3?t=bond21&s=bond21).



Not bad.

[Nessus]

Strange that they got rid of Brosnan, he had charm. If the Bond movie's weren't performing as well as the studio liked they should have fired thier script writer's. I think the plot's and writing were more of a shortcoming than anything else.

[LeadBullet]

I agree with Joe, that guy looks like he could fit the James Bond role pretty well. Hes only on that ER show right now, but before Pierce Brosnan was Bond I think he was doing TV as well.

Hopefully they won't end up picking someone awful.

[Joe Siegler]

Nessus said:
Strange that they got rid of Brosnan, he had charm. If the Bond movie's weren't performing as well as the studio liked



It wasn't that. Die Another Day was an incredible moneymaker.

[Simon Charles]

Timothy Dalton. Best Bond ever. Wish he'd be back. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Can't say I've cared much about Bond before or after him.

[shiranui]

Joe3DR said:
Goran Visnjic



Don't watch ER, but I liked him in the Spartacus remake. I guess he does have the Bond look, but he is maybe a little too "european" looking?

[Joe Siegler]

Looks like it's Daniel Craig, barring a last second surprise.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht.../ixnewstop.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/14/nbond14.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/10/14/ixnewstop.html)

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/article319546.ece

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne...icleid%3D106984 (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&ncl=http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/moreTrack/view.bg%3Farticleid%3D106984)

[Joe Siegler]

http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/bonds/craig.php3?t=&s=

[Piano Man]

Gee.... looks like the first post wasn't completely full of crap after all.

I wish it was though... there is no way that he can or even SHOULD play bond. He will suck at it. I was also shocked at the idiots who said that Pierce Brosnan sucked... He was better than Roger Moore for sure and beat the crap out of that idiot George Lazenby...

Daniel Craig should NOT BE ALLOWED to play Bond.

[dudetheman19]

Joe3DR said:
Looks like it's Daniel Craig, barring a last second surprise.




Do I really have to say "I TOLD YOU SO". Didnt I post that three days ago http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Simon Charles]

Piano Man said:
Gee.... looks like the first post wasn't completely full of crap after all.

I wish it was though... there is no way that he can or even SHOULD play bond. He will suck at it.



Give the guy a chance, eh? The movie hasn't even started filming yet and you're already shooting him down.

[Joe Siegler]

dudetheman19 said:

Joe3DR said:
Looks like it's Daniel Craig, barring a last second surprise.




Do I really have to say "I TOLD YOU SO". Didnt I post that three days ago http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



It wasn't a matter of being right. It was a matter of at the time the post was made, it was with (capital letters too, I might add) "New James Bond has been announced". That was incorrect. It had NOT been announced. THAT was the line point I was trying to make.

It's amsuing that the two 007 fan sites I go to have been taken down now. Those being the mi6.co.uk site and commanderbond.net http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Piano Man said:
Gee.... looks like the first post wasn't completely full of crap after all.

I wish it was though... there is no way that he can or even SHOULD play bond. He will suck at it. I was also shocked at the idiots who said that Pierce Brosnan sucked... He was better than Roger Moore for sure and beat the crap out of that idiot George Lazenby...

Daniel Craig should NOT BE ALLOWED to play Bond.



Why ?

[Joe Siegler]

Joe3DR said:

avatar_58 said:

SyntaxN said:
Brosnan was perfect, anyway, no Bond movie will every beat Goldeneye for sure...sadly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



I have to agree....goldeneye was one of my favs.



Uh, the aboslute best 007 movie was the third one back in 1964, Goldfinger. That is the essential 007 movie.

But I've seen some pics of Daniel Craig online that I can sort of see him. Look around a bit. Thing is, even if it s Craig, I won't (unlike some people here) critisize him until I see his first movie. THe reason for that is I wanted to really dislike Brosnan. I was a major (and still am) fan of Timothy Dalton's performance. To me, he's most like the Bond of Fleming's novels. Even moreso than Connery was. So whoever came after Dalton I was determined not to like, because I wanted Dalton to remain. I couldn't help it, Brosnan was too good.

So I won't automatically put up a roadblock in front of the new guy. I won't judge him until he has a movie out. Neither shoud you. The pictures of him out there now shoulnd't matter. It's how he looks in the tux, with the gun, with what makes Bond bond.

Now I realize they're aiming for a "Batman Begins" feel here with Casino Royale. The idea here is to make it like one of 007's first missions, and be pretty faithful to the original book. So it might not feel exactly the same, but I would put that on intentional script stuff, and not the actor's performance.



Quoting myself due to the "should not be allowed" remark, which is just assinine.

[Piano Man]

Well - it's been confirmed... David Craig IS the new bond...

I'm sorry, but Bond IS going to go downhill... he just isn't the proper english gentlemen sort of actor. They're going to screw things up for bond... I know it.

Just you watch.

[Joe Siegler]

Piano Man said:
Well - it's been confirmed... David Craig IS the new bond...

I'm sorry, but Bond IS going to go downhill... he just isn't the proper english gentlemen sort of actor. They're going to screw things up for bond... I know it.

Just you watch.



Do I need to quote myself again? You cannot assume that based on past work. You HAVE to at least watch the first movie before doing that. Now, after seeing the first one you want to feel that way - that's fine. But to damn it to failure before frame one has even been filmed is the general problem with online forums. Everyone is negative first.

[Joe Siegler]

Official picture

[Joe Siegler]

Movie logo

[Mountain Man]

Can't say I'm crazy about the look. It's certainly not like when Brosnan was announced and you just knew he was perfect for the role. Still, it's all in the performance, so we'll just have to wait and see how this new fellow plays it.

[Kev_Hectic]

Comparison time...


Connery:

http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/images/james-bond/sean-connery/sc014.jpg

Lazenby:

http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/images/james-bond/george-lazenby/gl003.jpg

Moore:

http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/images/james-bond/roger-moore/rm003.jpg

Dalton:

http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/images/james-bond/timothy-dalton/td014.jpg

Brosnan:

http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/images/james-bond/pierce-brosnan/pb025.jpg

and the new guy:

http://www.aintitcool.com/images/craig_bond.jpg

Hmmm... He doesn't look like a bad choice for Bond. But I'm going to have to wait and see how well he can act the roll before making any other comments on him.

[Dave-ros]

Most of those pictures can't even be viewed for lack of permission http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

And the new guy just looks a bit too... old http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif Bond's supposed to be ageless, dammit! (Well, he must be, he's been the same age since the Cold War!)

[Nacho]

Joe3DR said:
Official picture



I'm not as worried anymore. When I saw him on TV with Blonde hair I was a bit scared. Just a tad.

[Kev_Hectic]

Dave-ros said:
Most of those pictures can't even be viewed for lack of permission http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif I Guess I shouldv'e realized that they'd prevent people from mooching images off their site. Just click here instead...

http://www.jamesbondmm.co.uk/james-bond.php


And the new guy just looks a bit too... old http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif Bond's supposed to be ageless, dammit! (Well, he must be, he's been the same age since the Cold War!)



Funny thing is though, this Daniel Craig guy is in his 30's while Pierce Brosnan is over 50 or so, and yet he physically looks older then Pierce does.

[Mountain Man]

That's because Pierce is the man! I actually met him once. He's a pretty cool guy.

[Tedski]

For those of you above the required legal age for watching it, I suggest you rent Layer Cake - which has Craig in it in a lead role. You should discover two things. One, it's a bloody good movie in its own right, and two, that Craig can most certainly act. I rather suspect that it was his performance in this film that convinced the studios to at least look at him in the first place. Only time will tell obviously, but don't be too surprised if he doesn't do a good job of it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Vivi]

Layer Cake was an excellent movie.

Rent it at your local Hollywood Video!

[avatar_58]

Joe3DR said:
Do I need to quote myself again? You cannot assume that based on past work. You HAVE to at least watch the first movie before doing that. Now, after seeing the first one you want to feel that way - that's fine. But to damn it to failure before frame one has even been filmed is the general problem with online forums. Everyone is negative first.



I'm sure people didn't like Connery or Brosnan when he was announced so I have to agree with you. Besides....that last brosnan film wasn't even that great and he was a good bond. So the two don't go hand in hand. Even if Craig isn't "Bond" to you maybe the movie will be.

[Joe Siegler]

The 1969 movie was probably one of the best 007 movies, but Lazenby mostly stunk.

[crunchy superman]

You know, I think that's the only one I haven't seen.

[Piano Man]

Lazenby was the worst bond by far. And he put on a pretty crappy scottish accent. And seeing him when he was wearing that kilt.....



[shudders] http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

[thefly]

I've never seen a 007 movie all the way through.

[Tedski]

Joe3DR said:
The 1969 movie was probably one of the best 007 movies, but Lazenby mostly stunk.



Unfortunately too true. His performance grates so much I've only ever watched it a couple of times.

[Destroyer]

this guy doesnt look like a bond.

[Xiu]

I'm not to sure about Craig, I would of prefered to see Clive Owen as Bond that would've made more sense. I don't like the idea of a Blond Bond and as for an American playing Bond, wake up. You might as well have a chinese guy playing Money Penny. I don't care if they're Scottish(Connery), English(Moore), Irish(Brosnan) or Welsh(Dalton) as long as they're from the UK or near it at least but that's a no to a French Bond :P

[abnormal]

New French Trailer For 007 Casino Royale

The whole trailer is in frech but its a kick ass trailer. i like craig so far. just click download at the bottom.

http://www.4shared.com/file/1450798/4b8dc0b/trailer_casino_royale.html

[KaiserSoze]

New French Trailer For 007 Casino Royale

The whole trailer is in frech but its a kick ass trailer. i like craig so far. just click download at the bottom.

http://www.4shared.com/file/1450798/4b8dc0b/trailer_casino_royale.html

Damn that is a nice trailer! Hopefully the full movie will be just as good.

[big fat lazy]

Looks alot better than the last 4 movies.

[Marty]

sweeeeeeeeeeeet! cant wait.
Martin Campbell is pretty good

[Vivi]

Holy crap, this looks good.

[mirwais57]

The poster I've seen somewhere for the movie looks very cool. It makes a much darker tone for Casino Royale than for the other movies.

[FullMetalJacket]

Looks alot better than the last 4 movies.

I thought TND and DAD were good. TWINE was melodramatic except for the boat chase and Goldeneye was just dull, except for the tank scene.

[SyntaxN]

hmh, Craig don´t looks that bad in motion...

[Joe Siegler]

New French Trailer For 007 Casino Royale

The whole trailer is in frech but its a kick ass trailer. i like craig so far. just click download at the bottom.

http://www.4shared.com/file/1450798/4b8dc0b/trailer_casino_royale.html

I agree. I saw that over the weekend. I can't wait. Word is the English trailer will go out with either Mission Impossible 3 or DaVinci Code. I know it'll be available for DL, but it's different seeing it on the big screen.

[avatar_58]

Pretty good, but was Casino Royale supposed to be before or after the others? I'm kind of confused because they have Judi Dench meaning its not.....(unless their excuse is that she doesn't age)

Either way it looks alright. I can't tell if its good, because even crappy Bond movies look good in trailers. ;)

[Joe Siegler]

Pretty good, but was Casino Royale supposed to be before or after the others? I'm kind of confused because they have Judi Dench meaning its not.....(unless their excuse is that she doesn't age)

Casino Royale is "Bond Begins". They're essentially rebooting the franchise. There's no Q or Moneypenny, either. Course there wasn't in the book, so that's consistant.

[avatar_58]

Casino Royale is "Bond Begins". They're essentially rebooting the franchise. There's no Q or Moneypenny, either. Course there wasn't in the book, so that's consistant.

Thats what I assumed, but why Judi Dench?

[Joe Siegler]

Thats what I assumed, but why Judi Dench?

She's been M for the last 4 movies, no real need to change her. It is fiction, you know - some things will have to be overlooked. That's one 'of 'em. Plus she's a great actress - from what I've read she's gonna have a lot to do.

[avatar_58]

Plus she's a great actress - from what I've read she's gonna have a lot to do.

No arguement there, its just that for these reboots getting a new cast is usually what occurs. No big deal really, as its only a minor nitpick from me. ;)

However I do agree that Craig looks to play the part well :)

[big fat lazy]

(unless their excuse is that she doesn't age)
That's their excuse for Bond ;)

[Joel]

Darn it, i find myself biting my tongue yet again. I was constantly in doubt of Daniel Craig being cast as 007 from the beginning just like I was with Christopher Eccleston for Doctor Who. Just like Doctor Who, I am blown away and my preconceptions are held to shame. This is going to be increadible.

Very raw, very dark and most of all, very 007. Tomorrow never dies.....

[jazgour]

I too hope this movie will be awesome!

However, I thought that the Die Another Day trailer was awesome too.

Die another day, while being a very entaining movie, was by far the WORST of the Bond films, in my humble oppinion.

[big fat lazy]

Die another day, while being a very entaining movie, was by far the WORST of the Bond films, in my humble oppinion.
It sure as hell had the worst theme song :mryuck: Madonna...:doh:
I liked the intro scene though

[Joel]

Die Another Day worked as a 007 film for the first hour of the movie. I liked the idea of him being incarcerated and shunned by his own organisation. If anything, I would have spent more time in the movie focusing on his time in prison to darken the story and character somewhat. The movie really lost its edge from the ice palace and onwards. How bad was the surfboard/windsail escape? The CGI waves looked terrible.

My favourite Brosnan 007 film would have to be Goldeneye and Tomorrow never dies.

Speaking of Bond related films, has anyone seen a movie called "Layercake" starring Daniel Craig and Star Trek: DS9's Colm Meany? Lovely piece of work, best British gangster film since Lock Stock.

[Kalki]

Goldeneye and The World is Not Enough

Too much bad sci-fi in Die Another Day.

I'm sure the initial bad press and fan backlashes concerning Craig will work for the film.

[Dr.Dude]

English version --- http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2006/casinoroyale_018129/casinoroyale_trlr_01_maleos_dl.mov


In any case, as far as my views: totally awesome. Say what you will, but so far I'm thinking it looks like it might be the best Bond film in decades, if the actual movie can live up to its trailer.

Love that gun barrel scene. :cool:

[LeadBullet]

So does that mean no more John Cleese as Q? :p

[big fat lazy]

English version --- http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2006/casinoroyale_018129/casinoroyale_trlr_01_maleos_dl.mov
Awesome. I'm suprised he didn't say "Bond, James Bond" at the last part.

[Kalki]

He didn't need to. That's why the last part was such a tease. He still looks weird in that tux, like he's got a very bad hangover.

[FullMetalJacket]

Great trailer. Looks like the movie will have more of an emphasis on character development (a la OHMSS and Dr. No) and less on gimmicks and gadgetry (a la TWINE, DAD and most of Moore's films).

[Joe Siegler]

So does that mean no more John Cleese as Q? :p

For the moment, yeah. No Moneypenny either. I suspect they'll turn up again in the future. The next movie is supposed to come out in 2007 as well, an EXTREMELY fast turnaround for a modern Bond movie.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/

Another choice for English trailer. I'm rather excited about it.

Great trailer. Looks like the movie will have more of an emphasis on character development (a la OHMSS and Dr. No) and less on gimmicks and gadgetry (a la TWINE, DAD and most of Moore's films).

This isn't the first time they've "scaled back" the movies. After Moonraker, it was considered too silly. That's why the next film was done the way it was. For Your Eyes Only was considered to be more a serious movie, and probably has less "shtick" than any other Roger Moore 007 movie. Bond in that movie has a much harder edge, kicking a car off a cliff. That's very un Moore-Bondish.

But the Casino Royale change is far more drastic - this can be considered "Bond Begins" for sure from what I've read. It's supposd to be rather authentic to the source material, so if you know Casino Royale the book, you'll know this. Although the book is short, it's been expanded beyond the book.

Also, the next movie after Casino Royale is supposed to pick up right where Royale leaves off. Which itself will be something new - Bond movies have never done that. They barely recognize each other, actually in terms of events happening in one being picked up in another. Outside of the "Bond characters" (M/Q/moneypenny), there's been a few recurring characters from tiem to time (Jaws, General Gogol), but the movie plots themselves generally aren't referenced - save for the bits in Die Another Day which were sight gags towards older movies.

[Travis]

I should really watch all the Bond films, I've only seen snippets of most of them I think.

[FullMetalJacket]

For the moment, yeah. No Moneypenny either. I suspect they'll turn up again in the future. The next movie is supposed to come out in 2007 as well, an EXTREMELY fast turnaround for a modern Bond movie.

This isn't the first time they've "scaled back" the movies. After Moonraker, it was considered too silly. That's why the next film was done the way it was. For Your Eyes Only was considered to be more a serious movie, and probably has less "shtick" than any other Roger Moore 007 movie. Bond in that movie has a much harder edge, kicking a car off a cliff. That's very un Moore-Bondish.



Good points, Joe. Of course, "back in the day," Bond films consistently came out within one year of each other. (Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger and Thunderball were all just one year apart.) If these new Bond films have less emphasis on gadgets and big-budget effects, I don't see why it should take them more than a year to be released.

You're right about For Your Eyes Only (and to an extent, Octop*ssy) being "scaled back" and having less of Moore's Bond's trademark slapstick humor, but I always thought they were incredibly boring. In fact, the only Bond films from the '80s that I liked were the two Dalton was in, which for some reason are almost universally despised.

[avatar_58]

I should really watch all the Bond films, I've only seen snippets of most of them I think.

I've seen a few, and Goldeneye was probably a fav, but like you I need to really go back and watch them all. Problem is, that would cost an arm and a leg considering the only way to do so is to buy the whole collection.

[Usurper]

Appreciate the better trailer, Joe. Watched the other one and thought Bond looked slightly undead. Something in the compression I guess. Big one was much better. The fullscreen loading was a pleasant surprise.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

For the moment, yeah. No Moneypenny either. I suspect they'll turn up again in the future. The next movie is supposed to come out in 2007 as well, an EXTREMELY fast turnaround for a modern Bond movie.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/

Another choice for English trailer. I'm rather excited about it.


http://video.vividas.com/CDN2/4461_Sony/viv/casinoroyale.txt


.viv player anyone?

[Joe Siegler]

You're right about For Your Eyes Only (and to an extent, Octop*ssy) being "scaled back" and having less of Moore's Bond's trademark slapstick humor, but I always thought they were incredibly boring. In fact, the only Bond films from the '80s that I liked were the two Dalton was in, which for some reason are almost universally despised.

FYEO was not one of my favorites, but I loved Octop*ssy. Moore's swansong was his worst, IMO. But I loved the Dalton Bonds. He's still my favorite to date, and I know that's a real minority opinion.

[Soothsayer]

Man, that viv format is really annoying, I hope they just release a large quicktime version that's much easier.

Casino Royale looks great, I thought the Bond franchise was in danger of going stale after Die Another Day (identity change through DNA swap? :doh: ) but this looks like it's going back to the essence of the pre-Brosnan movies.

Mmmm....Eva Green :love: :love: :love: :love:

FYEO was not one of my favorites, but I loved Octop*ssy. Moore's swansong was his worst, IMO. But I loved the Dalton Bonds. He's still my favorite to date, and I know that's a real minority opinion.

I don't have a favourite Bond actor, but I think Dalton did an excellent job that lived up to the Bond name...I can't see why people didn't like him. Doesn't The Living Daylights finish up in Afghanistan where Bond hooks with the Muhajideen, who in real life later becomes the Taliban?

[Joe Siegler]

Doesn't The Living Daylights finish up in Afghanistan where Bond hooks with the Muhajideen, who in real life later becomes the Taliban?

I haven't watched that in awhile, but that sounds about right.

[jazgour]

Re: New Trailer for 007 Casino Royale
Quote:
Doesn't The Living Daylights finish up in Afghanistan where Bond hooks with the Muhajideen, who in real life later becomes the Taliban?


I haven't watched that in awhile, but that sounds about right.
__________________

Yes, I've had it TiVo'd for awhile now, thats sort of true.

The west was a big supporter of the Muhajideen during the cold war because they took on the Soviets, but times change. And now its awkward

Rocky III has the same situation.

Anyhoo,
Lets cross our fingers and hope that "Casino Royale" is the best bond ever!

[Kennerado]

http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2006/casinoroyale_018129/casinoroyale_trlr_01_maleos_hiq_dl.mov

I think this is higher quality.

[Joe Siegler]

The Trailer for Casino Royale will debut later tonight online over at AOL Movies:

http://movies.aol.com/

Story about it here:

http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=4062

The "trailer" from a couple of months ago was the teaser, this is suppsoed to be the full trailer before release in about two months or so.

[FullMetalJacket]

That was better than sex.

:love:

[Daveman]

I hope the movies turn into espionage and intrigue again instead of just action. :mryuck:

Though I must admit Goldeneye was fantastic.

[FullMetalJacket]

I hope the movies turn into espionage and intrigue again instead of just action. :mryuck:

Though I must admit Goldeneye was fantastic.

Well, it's been stated in multiple instances that this movie has more of an emphasis on intrigue (a la From Russia with Love) and less on gimmicks and gadgetry (a la Die Another Day).

:)

[abnormal]

this trailer kicks large amount of butt. its almost flawless.

[Parkar]

That trailer gave me goose bumps. Not sure exactly why maybe because it feels fresh and still has the bond feel.

[Joe Siegler]

Direct link to 167Mb Quicktime file.

http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2006/casinoroyale_018129/casinoroyale_trlr_02_bbhiq_56dsrjud_dl.mov

[Kalki]

Got any video link in the sub-30mb range? :o

[Paroxysm]

Well here's the 48 meg one I got http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2006/casinoroyale_018129/casinoroyale_trlr_02_mbhiq_56rerrfu3_dl.mov

Can't remember if it was the smallest I got. Jsut go to the site, open the video page and look at the source code man. It'll only take you a minute.

[Joe Siegler]

Got any video link in the sub-30mb range? :o

Why wouldn't you want the highest quality?

[Kalki]

The AOL page source doesn't show me anything. Thanks for the link though.

Why wouldn't you want the highest quality?

Bandwidth issues. I've got a monthly limit on this cheaper new account I'm trying out. :mryuck:

[Joe Siegler]

I didn't realize people still had bandwith caps on accounts. That would suck - no way could I live with that.

Anyway, the trailer looks seriously badass. There are more than the 170Mb version: Go here (http://movies.aol.com/casino-royale-james-bond/exclusive-video-features), and you can select a few sizes.

[Kalki]

Yeah it's incredibly painful to have to go back to a bandwidth limit. I won't give details but my current line-speed is suitably faster than the more expensive no-cap alternatives.

Saw the trailer a dozen times now. I didn't quite understand the opening dialog:
your file shows no kills. Yet to become a double'O, it takes-
- two
<action>
- how did he die?
- no contact, no word
- you needn't worry, the second is-
<bang>
- yes... considerably.
I did not get that at all. Is it a british thing or just non-sequential, hacked up trailer bits?

The rest of it was super. I loved the damsel in distress situations- the underwater scene(her look) and the one where she's lying in the middle of the road. He makes it clear she's gotten to him. And I've been eagerly awaiting the construction site action since the teasers but it looks like that's not the only great scene.

[Needle]

your file shows no kills. Yet to become a double'O, it takes-
- two
<action>
- how did he die?
- no contact, no word
- you needn't worry, the second is-
<bang>
- yes... considerably.

I think Bond mumbled "Your contact? No well." and what the other guy is trying to say is "You needn't worry, the second is easier." Which was obviously true...

[Marty]

Holy F**king Shit that looks cool. i'll be so bummed if it doesnt deliver. well it's released on my birthday so how could it? :D

"it doesnt bother you, killing those people?"
"well i wouldnt be very good at my job if it did"

[Kalki]

I think Bond mumbled "Your contact? No well." and what the other guy is trying to say is "You needn't worry, the second is easier." Which was obviously true...

Ah, now it makes complete sense. Thank you! :)

[kong235]

casino royale is a two part movie they want the whole book in the movie unlike origanal theres even a part where they torture bond with bambo sticks by hitting his well you guys guess

[Joe Siegler]

The next movie will pick up after Casino Royale ends, which is something else 007 movies haven't ever done. At least that's the plan right now for "Bond 22".

Have you actually READ the Casino Royale book? It's rather short, they had to flesh out the story to make it fit in one movie, that book can't really sustain two of them.

[kong235]

you forget bond has action not story telling a few hundred explosions here and there will split it in two

[Kalki]

Have you actually READ the Casino Royale book? It's rather short, they had to flesh out the story to make it fit in one movie, that book can't really sustain two of them.

How many Bond books have you read Joe? I've only read one that I can think of, Live and Let Die.

[Joe Siegler]

you forget bond has action not story telling a few hundred explosions here and there will split it in two

Actually, not this new movie, the "explosions" are toned down, it's not the action fest it used to be, so we've read. The trailer has some action yes, but it's not like the past where it was all over the place. There will be little to no gadgets; there's no Q. There's no Moneypenny.

Again, if you've read the novels, you'll know it's different than the movies up until this point have been, save for the first couple with Connery.

How many Bond books have you read Joe? I've only read one that I can think of, Live and Let Die.

I've read several, but I admit it's been a very long time since I've read them.

[kong235]

kk im wrong happy sniff now ill go cry over the beating i just got(realised who i was at war with i dont want no ban plzz)

[Grande 3:16]

I saw a trailer for Casino Royale a few months ago before The DaVinci Code. Ended up being the only part of the movie I liked. :D

You're right about For Your Eyes Only (and to an extent, Octop*ssy) being "scaled back" and having less of Moore's Bond's trademark slapstick humor, but I always thought they were incredibly boring. In fact, the only Bond films from the '80s that I liked were the two Dalton was in, which for some reason are almost universally despised.I liked Octop*ssy although I couldn't really understand it (anyone care to explain to me the whole fake jewelry switching/dealing scam), but I agree with you about For Your Eyes Only being boring.

The whole DVD set has just been released here for about $240 dollars (works out $12 a DVD) and I was tempted to get it, but then I realised that I probably wouldn't watch half of them (Moonraker, Live and Let Die, Thunderball, View to a Kill etc).

[Joe Siegler]

I wouldn't mind getting the set, but man, it's a LOT of money. Looks good though, I'll probably pick up Goldfinger at least. But let's keep talk of the new DVD set in a general 007 thread, this is for Casino Royale. Danke.

[Telee]

I wouldn't mind getting the set, but man, it's a LOT of money. Looks good though, I'll probably pick up Goldfinger at least. But let's keep talk of the new DVD set in a general 007 thread, this is for Casino Royale. Danke.

Yeah, I was thinking of getting that for Chirstmas one time.

Anyway, I'm guessing this new Bond guy is going to be a terrible actor; He's probably going to be acting like a tough guy the whole movie :(

[Marty]

A friend of mine said Roger Moore was wearing a hair piece while playing James Bond. is this true or is she just another whacked whore friend of mine?

[FullMetalJacket]

Well, he was already well into his 50s by the time he was in his 80s films.

[abnormal]

the love interest in this bond is driving me absolutly mad. she acts so womanly and feminate its killing me. She is so gorgeous lookin in that dress it is making me go insane. take a look at my avatar. I just love it when a lady acts like a real woman.

[FullMetalJacket]

the love interest in this bond is driving me absolutly mad. she acts so womanly and feminate its killing me. She is so gorgeous lookin in that dress it is making me go insane. take a look at my avatar. I just love it when a lady acts like a real woman.

Oh, me too. She looks great, and I love the "damsel in distress" element. It definitely harkens back to the old-school Bond films. :love:

[Joe Siegler]

Here's a review of Casino Royale that has no revelation about plot, it's about Craig's "performance". It's a completely spoiler free review. In fact, I hesitate to call it a review. :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6116286.stm

I have my ticket, the date/time is Thu the 16th at 11:59PM. Catching a midnight showing the first night - the only way to fly. It's a long movie, I won't be out of there until about 2:45 most likely.

[Jokke_r]

So is like casino royale like more of a prequel? like before or at the point where Bond becomes a Double-0 agent? ( Not That almost any of the other bond movies fit together in any logical way). I wish they had never moved Bond further into the future, he should allways exist in like the 70's and 80's during the Cold war, all the technology should therefore be a bit dated etc. I never liked the supervillian enemies, allways prefered when it was simply the soviet union which was the bad guys with their own KGB agents etc.

[Tetsuro]

I liked Octop*ssy although I couldn't really understand it (anyone care to explain to me the whole fake jewelry switching/dealing scam), but I agree with you about For Your Eyes Only being boring.
Back when I was a kid, it was Living Daylights that confused the crap out of me, but I always DID understand the whole deal with the nuke in Octop*ssy.

Now it's the other way around: Living Daylights is as clear as daylight (pun intended) to me, but the whole jewellry thing in Octop*ssy just goes over my head.

The whole DVD set has just been released here for about $240 dollars (works out $12 a DVD) and I was tempted to get it, but then I realised that I probably wouldn't watch half of them (Moonraker, Live and Let Die, Thunderball, View to a Kill etc).
Believe it or not, but I actually think that From Russia With Love isn't all that great. Moonraker is a guilty pleasure of mine though, and I'm with Joe in that Dalton is my favorite Bond.

Plus I got the said set, so I can watch them anyway. :D

So is like casino royale like more of a prequel? like before or at the point where Bond becomes a Double-0 agent? ( Not That almost any of the other bond movies fit together in any logical way). I wish they had never moved Bond further into the future, he should allways exist in like the 70's and 80's during the Cold war, all the technology should therefore be a bit dated etc. I never liked the supervillian enemies, allways prefered when it was simply the soviet union which was the bad guys with their own KGB agents etc.
A franchose reboot, or so I've heard.

And mind you, USSR never was directly responsible for the villainy going on. SPECTRE was always pulling the strings, and if not them, then someone else.

And I like the megalomaniacal supervillains. It's what Bond is made of!

[Joe Siegler]

So is like casino royale like more of a prequel? like before or at the point where Bond becomes a Double-0 agent?

This is a series reboot. Like Batman Begins was.

[wayskobfssae]

I hope this is actually worth it. The last Bond film that I thought was actually worthy of the title was Goldeneye.

[Commando Nukem]

I hope this is actually worth it. The last Bond film that I thought was actually worthy of the title was Goldeneye.

Well its the same director at the helm, so we shall see eh? :). I didn't watch the one that came after The World Is Not Enough, it was becoming too predictable starting with TND.

[London_Midge]

The last Bond film that I thought was actually worthy of the title was Goldeneye.
Nah, every Bond movie has had good points and bad points, but I really can't think of any I wouldn't watch again. The Timothy Dalton movies are by far my least favorite, but not necessarily because they're bad, just because they're different. If you keep an open mind when you watch them, it's an interesting take on the character, but I have to admit it took me three or four watchings of each to pick that up. I can't believe someone wouldn't like The World is not Enough, though. Sophie Marceau makes any movie enjoyable. All I hear is that people had a problem with a big-boobed rocket scientist in Daisy Dukes...but those same people will swear up and down on the logical consistencies held within a 7 foot tall man with metal jaws that can fall out of an airplane and live. I guess you see what you're looking for, even if you're looking for a bad movie in an entertaining one.

I expect the new films will be the same way. I'm definitely not a Daniel Craig fan, but I'll watch it and probably like him, even if it takes a few viewings. I just have to think if they were really going to screw up the character, they would have done it by now.

[avatar_58]

I have my ticket, the date/time is Thu the 16th at 11:59PM. Catching a midnight showing the first night - the only way to fly. It's a long movie, I won't be out of there until about 2:45 most likely.

Let me know what Venom looks like in the Spidey 3 trailer ;) Hehe. Seriously though Casino Royale is looking to be a good bond movie. Seems some of the hysteria over Craig was misplaced.

[Kalki]

I can't believe someone wouldn't like The World is not Enough, though. Sophie Marceau makes any movie enjoyable.

What he said. :love:

[Marty]

i like TWINE, that boat scene was awesome and yes that chick is hot

[Daveman]

I'm really not a fan of James Bond movies except for a few (some of the old Connery films and GoldenEye were great -- Die Another Day was just awful :mryuck:), but this l