After-questions

[Cerberus_e]

I just finished doom 3 for the second time (on veteran)
and still some questions left.
they are very detailled, but I like this game so much that I want to know EVERYTHING of it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

- why does the video say the "teleport" from the ancient civilisation is a teleport, because in the second caverns level, it's noticably a door http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif it's that circular that lights up. same model as the delta labs teleports like the video says.

- ID pda questions: what are the "interns", is that a group of people that is fired after the game is ready? temporary people or something? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
and why does someone say: "I hope you enjoyed doom 3, or better: the noclip/devmap ride to this pda room"? wtf noclip? was that their previous idea before the brick or something?
and what is a MrE? (have you found the MrE behind Doom 3, mail topic of someone)

- I'm sure I have another ancient civilisation question but I forgot, I'll ask when I remember http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I sure hope I will meet one in the expansion, he can explain how "the artifact" works or something, because he will know, it's a device used against them.

- does someone know what the cyberdemon says when the battle starts? and what language I hear in communications transfer in the beginning when that demon bursts with his head through the door, maybe a translation for the die-hard-ancient-language-learners http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif if it's an ancient language, could be today's language.

- I think I had another question, also forgot, should have written them down instantly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

thanks for your hours you spend on these questions, if no one answers, no big deal, I understand the questions are awfully detailled http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

EDIT:
remember last question now:

- in the second caves, there are somewhere 2 cd's lying on a table, I pick them up, but only 1 new video http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif how come? I don't want to miss a video.
maybe there is a video used twice?

[NutWrench]

- ID pda questions: what are the "interns", is that a group of people that is fired after the game is ready? temporary people or something?



I don't know what the interns at iD do. Beta test? Bring pizza? Give the developers massages into the wee hours of the morning? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


>and why does someone say: "I hope you enjoyed doom 3, or better: the noclip/devmap ride to this pda room"? wtf noclip? was that their previous idea before the brick or something?



Could be. You may have had to cheat to get to that room in an earlier version.


>and what is a MrE? (have you found the MrE behind Doom 3, mail topic of someone)



It's leetspeak. MrE = Mystery. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



>- I'm sure I have another ancient civilisation question but I forgot, I'll ask when I remember I sure hope I will meet one in the expansion, he can explain how "the artifact" works or something, because he will know, it's a device used against them.



One of the scientists figures it out in an audio log and he e-mails Betruger about it. Betruger tells him not to jump to wild conclusions.


>- does someone know what the cyberdemon says when the battle starts? and what language I hear in communications transfer in the beginning when that demon bursts with his head through the door, maybe a translation for the die-hard-ancient-language-learners if it's an ancient language, could be today's language.



It's probably Latin or something made up that sounds like Latin. I have no idea what's being said, though. Supposedly, some Black Mass rites are in Latin but read backwards.

[Cerberus_e]

NutWrench said:

- ID pda questions: what are the "interns", is that a group of people that is fired after the game is ready? temporary people or something?



I don't know what the interns at iD do. Beta test? Bring pizza? Give the developers massages into the wee hours of the morning? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif




So they are temporary? what is de definition of an intern then http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


NutWrench said:

>- I'm sure I have another ancient civilisation question but I forgot, I'll ask when I remember I sure hope I will meet one in the expansion, he can explain how "the artifact" works or something, because he will know, it's a device used against them.



One of the scientists figures it out in an audio log and he e-mails Betruger about it. Betruger tells him not to jump to wild conclusions.



I mean the artifact of the expansion, in the expansion "the artifact" is made by hell's forces as a weapon against the soulcube. and it's ready when you suck up 5 souls of HUMANS (that way the artifact could be better balanced than the overpowered soulcube, because you need to find 5 dead humans first)
I'd like it when I meet a living member of that ancient civilisation, and he explains me how the artifact works, because that's probably the thing that was the end for that civilisation (others are teleported to unknown locations) on the tablets you see an artifact sucking up members of that ancient civilisation, that could be the expansion's artifact http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


NutWrench said:

>- does someone know what the cyberdemon says when the battle starts? and what language I hear in communications transfer in the beginning when that demon bursts with his head through the door, maybe a translation for the die-hard-ancient-language-learners if it's an ancient language, could be today's language.



It's probably Latin or something made up that sounds like Latin. I have no idea what's being said, though. Supposedly, some Black Mass rites are in Latin but read backwards.



communications transfer is indeed Latin I thought, but the cyberdemon sound is more russian (ends on "vich", sounds russian, latin doesn't have a vich ending in none of the forms I know of)
I'm sure I'm wrong about the russian though http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cerberus_e]

I found out what is said at the start of the cyberdemon battle: witness to what will be unleashed on earth.

I have added the latin sentence as attachement, I found it while browsing the pk4 files http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
any latin speakers here? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Piranros]

I found out what is said at the start of the cyberdemon battle: witness to what will be unleashed on earth.



Wow, that's awesome http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif So it's russian?

[Cerberus_e]

Piranros said:


I found out what is said at the start of the cyberdemon battle: witness to what will be unleashed on earth.



Wow, that's awesome http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif So it's russian?



it's not russian, it's english.
when I heard it in the game, I thought it was russian (or a similar language), but when I listened to the sounds I extracted from pak003.pk4 I perfectly heard it was english http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

here, I attached it for you

[Beelze]

"I hope you enjoyed doom 3, or better: the noclip/devmap ride to this pda room"

I'd say that was just a joke, meaning that maybe some people are so in love with easter eggs they feel like noclipping through the whole game in search of some.

[Roma Loom]

Hey menz... I have only one question: where the hell Sgt. Kelly has dissapeared since his last report... Did I miss his body lying somewhere when I was running through the corridors in a great hurry...
Thanx in advance.

[NutWrench]

Roma Loom said:
Hey menz... I have only one question: where the hell Sgt. Kelly has dissapeared since his last report... Did I miss his body lying somewhere when I was running through the corridors in a great hurry...
Thanx in advance.



I guess. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Weren't you listening to Swan? Sargent Kelly is the boss that you fight in the computer core.

Swan: "Still alive? Looks like you might be on your own. Sarge is gone. They've got to him. I don't know how long he's been working against us. He's no longer human. Campbell went after him. He's got to be stopped. Hell is breaking through in the caverns. If that portal isn't closed before those ships arrive, Earth will be destroyed. Earth. That's what they've always wanted. They were there once. Lost it in the dawn of time. Now it's so close, they can taste it. It's up to you now. Take my PDA, it's got what you need. Good luck."

Campbell: "Sarge, find him, gotta find him. My gun, he's got my gun. (gurgle die)"

^(Campbell is talking about the BFG that you see him carrying in the cutscene. It shows up in front of the defeated Sarge/Thing after the boss fight. I love the QuakeII/Strogg influence in the Sarge boss texture.)

Click the attachment for a complete text version of the Doom 3 voice list. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cerberus_e]

NutWrench said:
^(Campbell is talking about the BFG that you see him carrying in the cutscene. It shows up in front of the defeated Sarge/Thing after the boss fight. I love the QuakeII/Strogg influence in the Sarge boss texture.)




there are only 2 occasions where I saw him with the BFG: once in alpha labs 4 (at the place of the vagary), and once in communications, to destroy everything http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
are there more?
btw, first time I played doom 3 I didn't even know what was the BFG, I didn't see it in communications (only saw it on my second time through), and that green explosion in the alpha labs 4 I thought was a teleport, that the vagary used to arrive there http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


NutWrench said:
Click the attachment for a complete text version of the Doom 3 voice list. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



cool, I love you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

btw, no one speaks latin here? and I thought you guys were smart http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
I used to study latin, but got tired of it after 1 year and a trimester http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Piranros]

I tried translating the latin speech, but I found out the two first words. Not sure if I got it right either..

If I got it right, "metuos dolor.." is "to fear pain..." (metus = fear, metuo = to fear, dolor = pain).

I got that by listening the sound file and browsing through the latin dictionary. Don't know if I'm on a right track here but it sounds like it would fit the situation in the game.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I had to stop playing for the night after I heard that voice! And usually I don't get spooked that easily http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cerberus_e]

after you heard that sound in-game, or after downloading my zip file? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I know "AC" means "and" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

woohoo, I found another thread on google about this:
translated by babelfish from german:
http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/tru...4151%26page%3D1 (http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=de_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hlportal.de%2F%3Fsec%3Dforum% 26site%3Dthread%26thread_id%3D4151%26page%3D1)



To the sentence: I am in the school good in latin, but this sentence results in in the case of me no right sense. Either the words are distorted then that I understand them wrongly, or however they were taken up simply and moving wrongly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
It could concern the following sentence: Metus dolormus (dolormus is unknown to me) AC furnitoris. I times evenly checked and see that furnitoris a through-DEK-LINED form of furni, the furnace, could be. So far I became the in such a way translated (is probably absolutely wrong http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif): Metus = fear, dolormus = could come from "pain", AC = and, furnitoris = furnace, evtl. Hell.




btw, I have added another sound from doom 3 as attachement, my favourite.
it immerses me so much, and each time I listen to it I get the feeling I got of playing doom 3 first time through, a year ago http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Piranros]

I thought the boss fight with Sargent Kelly was a bit disappointing.. After hearing all the "Sarge is coming for you..." and "Sarge will kill you.." I was expecting something truly horrible, not something that looked like a radio-controlled toy robot http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
How did he transform into that robot/tank thing in the first place? Did Betruger do it?

[Cerberus_e]

Piranros said:
I thought the boss fight with Sargent Kelly was a bit disappointing.. After hearing all the "Sarge is coming for you..." and "Sarge will kill you.." I was expecting something truly horrible, not something that looked like a radio-controlled toy robot http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
How did he transform into that robot/tank thing in the first place? Did Betruger do it?



it's hard when you are playing on veteran, and if you don't use the soulcube http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
imagine what it would be on nightmare without soulcube http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

btw, read my edited post above

[Piranros]

after you heard that sound in-game, or after downloading my zip file?



Haha, I mean In-game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif When the giant mouth came through the door and bit my head off http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif



I know "AC" means "and"



Great http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I'll be trying out different online translators in search for more words...
Wasn't there more latin speech in the game? It was a long time ago since I played D3..

[Cerberus_e]

Piranros said:

I know "AC" means "and"


Great http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I'll be trying out different online translators in search for more words...
Wasn't there more latin speech in the game? It was a long time ago since I played D3..



well, haven't you seen my edited post? that german guy has translated it: "fear pain and hell", he could be wrong though http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

btw, what does kelly say in these taunts?
I think the first one is: "on your knees soldier, but what is that second?
also, tension_arp is cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Piranros]

Yay! Looks like I was right with the first two words http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


I have added another sound from doom 3 as attachement, my favourite.
it immerses me so much, and each time I listen to it I get the feeling I got of playing doom 3 first time through, a year ago



Yeah, I like that sound also http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Doom3 must have the best sound ever.. Every single sound effect is memorable. My absolute favourite is the organ music playing in the first pentagram room (first one we see taken over with the hellish growth). Reminds me of those ghost-train rides in amusement parks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I love it!
Too bad I have only the xbox version so I can't extract the sound files. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Piranros]

The second taunt sounds like "*******s and elbows".
That could be the english version of what our liutenant yelled at us in the army http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cerberus_e]

Piranros said:
Yay! Looks like I was right with the first two words http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


I have added another sound from doom 3 as attachement, my favourite.
it immerses me so much, and each time I listen to it I get the feeling I got of playing doom 3 first time through, a year ago



Yeah, I like that sound also http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Doom3 must have the best sound ever.. Every single sound effect is memorable.




yes, and it's surprising the sound is so good, I see it has a bitrate of only 24 kbps http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
the sound is indeed the best ever and it's all very memorable, that's why I extracted all sound files http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Piranros said:
My absolute favourite is the organ music playing in the first pentagram room (first one we see taken over with the hellish growth). Reminds me of those ghost-train rides in amusement parks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I love it!
Too bad I have only the xbox version so I can't extract the sound files. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif



well, I'm your friend: http://users.skynet.be/cerberuse/admin_haunted_office.zip
I have them all http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Piranros]

Yes that's it! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Thanks cerberus_e!

I love the way they use music in Doom3, hiding it in ambient sounds. Once I get better headphones I want to play through the game again. I want to hear everything http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cerberus_e]

I still have a few questions:
http://users.skynet.be/cerberuse/doom3sound.zip: (http://users.skynet.be/cerberuse/doom3sound.zip)

alphalabs3_03_marklamia.ogg: not really a question, just my favourite voice log http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
bet_mrail_intro_1_line1.ogg: another latin speech http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif what is it?
bet_mrail_intro_1_line2.ogg: another latin speech http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif what is it?
bet_mrail_intro_1_line3.ogg: there is no death for you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
computer_teleport_countdown.ogg: I found this in the mars city underground folder, but don't remember it, would it be cut?
enpro_03_stevehammer.ogg: my second favourite voice log http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif what accent does he have? is that texan or something? it's like he talks through his nose http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
intro.ogg: from the enpro plant folder, also cut?
lostsoul_intro.ogg: from the enpro plant folder, also cut?
wounded_music.ogg: from the enpro plant folder, also cut?
one of these three has to be the lost soul intro, but what are the others then? I don't remember music in the lostsoul intro btw

[Piranros]

computer_teleport_countdown.ogg - I remember hearing this the first time you use the elevator to travel over the chasm. Or maybe it was the teleport you use to travel away from Hell? Not sure, but I'm sure it's in the game.

lostsoul_intro.ogg - That's the lost soul intro http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif It's there, at least in the xbox version.

wounded_music.ogg - Wasn't this heard when you find the last remaining marine of the team (and then he gets killed by a Wraith). Not sure but I remember hearing this somewhere in the game so I don't think it's cut out.

[Cerberus_e]

I don't remember hearing music when that woman transformed into a lost soul http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
it's time I play doom 3 for the third time http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif or I'll wait until I have a new gfx card.

it's weird I found that teleporter countdown in the MC underground folder http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif but oh well, there are other sounds in the wrong directory http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[NutWrench]

Cerberus_e said:
there are only 2 occasions where I saw him with the BFG: once in alpha labs 4 (at the place of the vagary), and once in communications, to destroy everything http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
are there more?



There's a cutscene at the start of "Cpu Core" where Campbell is looking for Sarge. He's carrying the BFG. ("Where are you hiding.")

[Cerberus_e]

NutWrench said:

Cerberus_e said:
there are only 2 occasions where I saw him with the BFG: once in alpha labs 4 (at the place of the vagary), and once in communications, to destroy everything http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
are there more?



There's a cutscene after the Delta Labs and before you enter the computer core where Campbell is looking for Sarge. He's carrying the BFG. ("Where are you hiding.")



oops, I always thought that was sergeant kelly, asking where I was hiding http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Roma Loom]

Ahh. Thank you NutWrench! Of course I was listening to Swan before he gave me his PDA... but playing D3 at 7am before going to bed made me deaf to whaterver humans were mumbling...