Counter Strike Cheats

[WestSeven]

I thought part of the thing with Steam was that it would help cut down cheating whenplaying on-line. Are cheats available for CS/HL2? Which ones are more commonly used? Is there anyway they can be stopped?

I was playing last night and everyone was accusing one of the players of using an auto-snipe cheat - I asked what this was and everyone just shouted 'noob' at me. What is it with on-line communities?! Yeah I'm new to CS. I don't play much. What's the problem? Argh!

[Duoae]

Valve haven't enabled their anti-cheat system yet. As far as i know they only know if someone is cheating by looking at specific logs created for their steam ID..... and only after people report them of cheating.

[jimbob]

WestSeven said:
I was playing last night and everyone was accusing one of the players of using an auto-snipe cheat - I asked what this was and everyone just shouted 'noob' at me. What is it with on-line communities?! Yeah I'm new to CS. I don't play much. What's the problem? Argh!

the problem is that most of the "older" cs players consider themselves to be elite uber soldiers who can never lose, and if they do the other player must be n cheater.
i basicly ignore them or make fun of em http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

most common cheat i have seen seems to some sort of speed hack where the player gets halfway across a map in mere seconds, highly frustrating.

[Duoae]

jimbob said:
the problem is that most of the "older" cs players consider themselves to be elite uber soldiers who can never lose, and if they do the other player must be n cheater.




LOL, yeah. I'm a pretty average CS player (i don't put the time or effort into it) but one time i was accused of cheating by 2-3 people on the other team. Apparently i wasn't dying. Hehe, silly me. Oh yeah, i managed to kill someone after they flashbanged me as well. That pissed them off. Seriously though, i had already aimed at them before it went off. I just let-rip with my SMG and didn't stop until i got my vision back.

[Jokke_r]

VAC2 (valve anti-cheat2) will be added to Counter Strike: Source with this weeks Counter Strike: Source update according to Steam News

[Gatinater]

Yes, their is a sniper rifle auto aim. It's a console cheat, but it should only work on servers in which the host has enabled SV_CHEATS.

I know It's out of hand. The cheating is so bad. There is more cheaters than ever before. And it's all blatent. Most of them don't even try to cover it up. Two players were arguing over who's better at speed and gravity cheats. And they were trying to beat each other at cheating.

A Tango comes jumping down the overpass while playing dust. Three CTs which include me get nailed by him. He jumps down and takes four shots. and headshots all three of us in less than a second even though we were all spread out. There is no way that is possible without a target trace.

Source is a Joke. Most of the servers that are running are run by a clan. And the Clan is using SV_CHEATS. Most of the clan members are cheating.

I guess some people like to have the computer play the game for them whil he or she pretends he or she is that good.

[Twin]

i've only just started to play cs source aswell (when half life 2 first came out) and although i can't say that i'm the best cs player around, i'm not too bad either....there are times when i've played it when i die like 2 seconds into the game....but then there are days when for some reason i'll be on a roll and i can be the last man on the team against 10 other players and i kill them all....and whenever that happens i'm either kicked off the server or accused of cheating THEN kicked off the server http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

to be honest i think there is a certain amount of luck involed when playing games like cs online, i mean just being in the right place at the right time with the right gun will be enough to win the game for everybody...i just hate it when people can't take it when they lose, i mean i just laugh if i get killed 5 seconds into the game, it's no big deal, it's just a game which shouldn't be taken too seriously

[Duoae]

Twin said:

to be honest i think there is a certain amount of luck involed when playing (games like) cs online,



Have you seen CS:S's hitbox detection system? It really is very bad and makes the game unfair IMO.

[Jblade]

The only cheat I ever came across was a Speed hacker so I'd say the problem isn't really that bad at all. At least when VAC comes online it should stop them.

[WestSeven]

Will Valve actually ban cheaters or will they just stop them cheating? Have they made any kind of statement on this?

[Mountain Man]

When VAC goes online, verified cheaters will be barred from playing on VAC enabled servers.

[Thriller]

Solution? Play on a proper server. Any server worthwhile is heavily moderated. They are needed to get rid of basecamping and other stupid things that just makes the game dull, as well. Basecamping just hurts both teams. Where I play there are no cheaters. If there ever is one , his ass is banned in a few minutes.

Those kinds of servers are really the only option anyway, if you want good players and players working for their team.

[Derwin]

Yeah, sometimes the cheating sucks... but it doesn't happen as often as some players say. I was on a server once and a guy was doing really well, so everyone said he was cheating.
I figured, if he is doing so well and thus must be cheating, my doing so badly must be due to my cheating. So I asked why nobody had complained yet about my using the Suck Hack... I think I ticked a couple people off, but oh well http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[0marTheZealot]

Duoae said:

Twin said:

to be honest i think there is a certain amount of luck involed when playing (games like) cs online,



Have you seen CS:S's hitbox detection system? It really is very bad and makes the game unfair IMO.



Yea, with default settings, the hitboxes are bad.

Put this into your autoexec.cfg (if you have broadband)

cl_updaterate 100
cl_cmdrate 100
rate 25000
cl_lagcomp_errorcheck 1
cl_lagcompensation 1
cl_smooth 0
cl_interpolation 1
cl_interp .01


That should fix most hitbox errors on your side. It does nothing for the other players http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Claws]

There are aimbots for CS:S.

[DK2000]

I've seen a 'hack' that will make most people very 'angry'.
It allows you to deactivate the flashbang/smoke effects,disables the heaven texture, colors models blue/ red and you can see trough corners (not trough walls but if they were close by a corner they were shown)....
And yes were talking about the current version of CS Source!

Valve really has to act!

CU DK2000

[Duoae]

Thanks. I'll have to try that. I can't see why this issue was never addressed in the making of CS:S. It really is a bad oversight.

[0marTheZealot]

Duoae said:
Thanks. I'll have to try that. I can't see why this issue was never addressed in the making of CS:S. It really is a bad oversight.



yea it miffed me for weeks before I found those commands out.

[Warmaster129]

Gatinater said:
Yes, their is a sniper rifle auto aim. It's a console cheat, but it should only work on servers in which the host has enabled SV_CHEATS.

I know It's out of hand. The cheating is so bad. There is more cheaters than ever before. And it's all blatent. Most of them don't even try to cover it up. Two players were arguing over who's better at speed and gravity cheats. And they were trying to beat each other at cheating.

A Tango comes jumping down the overpass while playing dust. Three CTs which include me get nailed by him. He jumps down and takes four shots. and headshots all three of us in less than a second even though we were all spread out. There is no way that is possible without a target trace.

Source is a Joke. Most of the servers that are running are run by a clan. And the Clan is using SV_CHEATS. Most of the clan members are cheating.

I guess some people like to have the computer play the game for them whil he or she pretends he or she is that good.


http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

No offense, but you have no freaking idea what you're talking about. Valve wouldn't build an aimbot into their game under any circumstances. sv_cheats is used for noclip, ent_setname, ent_fire, mat_wireframe, mat_fullbright and the like.

Plus, the autosniper has nothing to do with any goddamn aimbots. It's two guns in the game (different models for terrorists and cts) that is overpowered to all hell. "Autosniper" is just the nickname for those two guns.

Only hack that's hard to detect is if the person is wallhacking, in which they can see through corners and crap. Speedhacks are easy to detect (just look at them moving) and aimbots are easy too. If they run around a corner and immediately get 2+ headshots before you can react, check them out. Just do a first-person spectator on them and if they trail behind the players exactly, they're hacking. On well-adminned servers, they'll be out of there in no time.

But really, it's hilarious to watch the people who scream ZOMGHAX when I turn on sv_cheats and start noclipping to set up some stuff. Or of course, the people who actually think the whole server is speedhacking on my server (I tend to run it with sv_friction set to -0.3, so people gain speed and go FAST).

[WestSeven]

Warmaster129 said:
...the autosniper has nothing to do with any goddamn aimbots. It's two guns in the game (different models for terrorists and cts) that is overpowered to all hell. "Autosniper" is just the nickname for those two guns....



Tha explains a lot - I thought autosniper was an aimbot cheat http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[0marTheZealot]

nah autosnipers just have no recoil and do like 80 damage a hit. they are severely imbalanced but they aren't cheats.

[Kev_Boy]

I have to say, that I haven't seen any obvious aimbotters or wallhackers yet in Counter-Strike Source. Nor have I ever suspected somebody of cheating yet.

Needless to say, that's a good thing http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Gatinater]

No Warmaster you are wrong. SV_cheats is built into CS source.

It can only be enabled by the person who is running the server. Also known as hosting.

There is a sniper rifle autoaim that is accessable through SV_CHEATS. And it works with sniper rifles only.

As for autoaiming with any other weapon you need to have a trainer. Which is called an aimbot in the CS community.

[Warmaster129]

Gatinater said:
No Warmaster you are wrong. SV_cheats is built into CS source.

It can only be enabled by the person who is running the server. Also known as hosting.

There is a sniper rifle autoaim that is accessable through SV_CHEATS. And it works with sniper rifles only.

As for autoaiming with any other weapon you need to have a trainer. Which is called an aimbot in the CS community.


http://img184.exs.cx/img184/9971/rolleyes0xm.gif
Well of course sv_cheats is in Source. I use it while I'm doing my ent stuff on my server. But this "built in sniper rifle autoaim". What is the command for it? Why would Valve include a freaking aimbot in their game? Is there anybody else out there who thinks the autosniper iis a "built in aimbot" and not a weapon?

[Dogy]

Whew, if you think CS is filled with hackers, just come to an America's Army official server. I saw 2 of them in the same server, same team. 1 had devmode (A mode that is activated in the console which enables the player to:

1. Automatic Reload
2. See through walls
3. Fully automatic feature for M16A2

Those are the ones I know off the top of my head.)

The other knew where EVERYONE was. Turn around, BAM! he was behind you.

[0marTheZealot]

Gatinater said:
No Warmaster you are wrong. SV_cheats is built into CS source.

It can only be enabled by the person who is running the server. Also known as hosting.

There is a sniper rifle autoaim that is accessable through SV_CHEATS. And it works with sniper rifles only.

As for autoaiming with any other weapon you need to have a trainer. Which is called an aimbot in the CS community.



Gatinater, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

First off, sv_cheats is 0 by default. I know this because I run a server. sv_cheats 1 allows autoaim which works on all guns. Autosnipers are "noob" guns because they have no recoil and do about 80+ damage per shot. SV_cheats can be turned on to 1 by using rcon, but by default, it is zero.

Test this out --> go to new game and create your own server, then type in sv_cheats

it'll be zero.

[Warmaster129]

Ohhh, he was talking about the "easy mode singleplayer" autoaim. I get it now.

He doesn't, though.

[Corwin]

Yesterday I played CS:S for a while, and I don't know why, but I was in a good playing mood. I came out with a score of about 50 kills for 5 deaths during two maps on a single server. No need to say, everybody get angry at me, insulting, menacing to give my Steam ID to Steam...

In my opinion, this is what sucks in cheating. Not that the cheaters win unfairly, you just can switch to another server, this is not really an insolvable problem. But now, everybody which hasn't any famous team flag in his name and which rocks during a match will be insulted, kicked, banned...
This general paranoia is really annoying to me, and the worst thing is that there are no ways to proove that you don't use cheats, nor ways to know if someone is cheating.

[Nacho]

Corwin, I know what you meen but I found a solution.
Find a server you had fun on and go on it a lot. Preferably a clan server that dosen't hack. Eventually the admins know who you are after a while and when people say, "he hacks!" the admins tell them the truth. I'm in a clan and we know who hacks and who dosen't you can tell by watching them. Most notorius ones, Wall hack and Speed hack.

[Mountain Man]

I've never been good enough to be accused of cheating. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Nacho]

I've seen peopple who cheat who had the worst scores. The non-cheaters owned him...then we banenated him!

[Crispy Critters]

I thought part of the thing with Steam was that it would help cut down cheating whenplaying on-line



It has. It's much better than it used to be. Although, you would NEVER see cheaters when Steam was still in beta. Hell, back then everything worked just fine. Even the Friends Network worked 100% of the time. Those were Steam's golden days.


I was playing last night and everyone was accusing one of the players of using an auto-snipe cheat - I asked what this was and everyone just shouted 'noob' at me. What is it with on-line communities?! Yeah I'm new to CS. I don't play much. What's the problem? Argh!



As much as I hate to say it, this is something you'll have to live with. Many of the older players will be more than willing to help you out, and define things for you, but this game is more dominated by immature 13-15 year olds. On my server, you were automatically banned for calling someone a noob. There's nothing wrong with it by any means. Those morons who are making fun of you for being a noob were noobs themselves once. If you don't like the critizism, I'd suggest just playing on small servers. In most cases, the people that are in those small servers are either
A) Testing out their newly installed cheats
B) New themselves, and are just feeling things out.

In most cases these days, when someone is yelling "OMFG HAX0RZ!!!111!!!!11!", their just crying wolf. It is possible to make headshots with a glock on burst fire. In my old clan, there was this one kid who was king with headshots. Any time he'd pick up an AWP or Scout, he'd say through the mic, "watch your head."

[Dutch]

Once someone gets accused then everybody spectates them as soon as they die, then it's obvious if they really are cheating or not.

Last week a guy had an excellent aimbot + wallhack and got a score of 50-5 or so. The only way to kill him was by HE spamming him at the appropriate chokepoint. He had this response binded, which was not "roflflflflffooffowlfmao" but this: "ok so you've all established that I'm "hacking/cheating" can you all just get over it or leave?"
Most of the server tried to vote him off but he apparently had an anti kick cheat. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Thriller]

Some players use combined Speed/Aimbots.
The player runs fast has hell, spinning around, head-shooting everything that comes into view.

While its a great feeling to manage to kill one of them, its not fun at all..

[Thriller]

Crispy Critters said:
Any time he'd pick up an AWP or Scout, he'd say through the mic, "watch your head."

Want to headshot with scout? I usually "half" zoom, aim a bit to the right above their head standing/running, and boom. HS. Its never random. You just have to know where to aim.

Ahh, the beuty of cs:s. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JackpotDen]

Sad s***s. I havent encountered a cheater, and I really wont end up thinking "ZOMFG CHEAT". The whole point of the game is having fun, whether you win or die. I'm a team player, to me, it doesnt matter if I die, as long as I took some basterd off the other side along with me. Hell, even when I die in HL DM, I usualy think "thats a nice kill" or "he has skill, he killed me quite a few times". I'm new to HL DM, only played today, and CS, well, I have some experience that is spread very thin.

If you ever see JackpotDen(player name), Alfred E neuman/Spy vs spy sprays, I'm on the server. Say hi. (im usually on 4-6 GMT)

[Quakis]

I only encountered one cheater. Started to play on a server with CS_COMPOUND (Favorite map) then as you walk out, within 10-20 seconds, everyone is dead...some idiot with speed hacks on http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif He must of had that aimbot or w/e on as well. I just left, prefer to play on private server withs my school friends since they don't cheat.

[Simon Charles]

Thriller said:
Some players use combined Speed/Aimbots.
The player runs fast has hell, spinning around, head-shooting everything that comes into view.



Those are the only hacks I've seen in action, but quite a lot recently.

[KaiserSoze]

i literally just got off de-dust2.

i had to disconnect.

why?

i was running around a corner as a terrorist when i got ran the ***** over by the hovercraft.

yes you read that right: the hovercraft.

seems the haxors have found a way to hack the hovercraft into cs:s. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

not to mention it also has high powered machine guns on it.

i thought they were supposed to be fixing these hax? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Claws]

You sure it wasn't one of those weird servers that have custom mods installed?

[KaiserSoze]

Claws said:
You sure it wasn't one of those weird servers that have custom mods installed?



positive.

[Warmaster129]

KaiserSoze said:
i literally just got off de-dust2.

i had to disconnect.

why?

i was running around a corner as a terrorist when i got ran the ***** over by the hovercraft.

yes you read that right: the hovercraft.

seems the haxors have found a way to hack the hovercraft into cs:s. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

not to mention it also has high powered machine guns on it.

i thought they were supposed to be fixing these hax? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif


You've got to be kidding us. The airboat isn't precached in CS, nor is it even in the gcf for it. Unless there's some way to spawn something that does not exist in the mod's content, there's no way that could happen.

[KaiserSoze]

Warmaster129 said:

KaiserSoze said:
i literally just got off de-dust2.

i had to disconnect.

why?

i was running around a corner as a terrorist when i got ran the ***** over by the hovercraft.

yes you read that right: the hovercraft.

seems the haxors have found a way to hack the hovercraft into cs:s. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

not to mention it also has high powered machine guns on it.

i thought they were supposed to be fixing these hax? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif


You've got to be kidding us. The airboat isn't precached in CS, nor is it even in the gcf for it. Unless there's some way to spawn something that does not exist in the mod's content, there's no way that could happen.



i knew i should have taken a screenshot. trust me, i am not lying. i have no reason too. i'll try to go back on the server that had it and see if they're still doing it.

[Thriller]

KaiserSoze said:

Warmaster129 said:

KaiserSoze said:
i literally just got off de-dust2.

i had to disconnect.

why?

i was running around a corner as a terrorist when i got ran the ***** over by the hovercraft.

yes you read that right: the hovercraft.

seems the haxors have found a way to hack the hovercraft into cs:s. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

not to mention it also has high powered machine guns on it.

i thought they were supposed to be fixing these hax? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif


You've got to be kidding us. The airboat isn't precached in CS, nor is it even in the gcf for it. Unless there's some way to spawn something that does not exist in the mod's content, there's no way that could happen.



i knew i should have taken a screenshot. trust me, i am not lying. i have no reason too. i'll try to go back on the server that had it and see if they're still doing it.

That simply must be a server-side modification.. Or, just really wierd. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[gamejunkie]

Hmm, kinda reminds me of:

www.pwned.nl (http://www.pwned.nl) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif