Sympathy for Lady Vengeance.

[AlienAssKicker]

Korean title is "ChinJeolhan Geum-Jassi" (The Kind Ms. Geomja).

So, who else is desperatly waiting to see this?

clicky (http://www.filmacco.com/films/lady_veng.php)

I have high expectations for Park Chan-wook's final installment in his revenge films trilogy.

Oh, and feel free to talk about the his first two installments: "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" and "Oldboy". Both excellent movies.

But I must say, it should be really cool to see a Lady have vengeance, Park Chan-Wook style. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[melt_core]

AlienAssKicker said:
Korean title is "ChinJeolhan Geum-Jassi" (The Kind Ms. Geomja).

So, who else is desperatly waiting to see this?

clicky (http://www.filmacco.com/films/lady_veng.php)

I have high expectations for Park Chan-wook's final installment in his revenge films trilogy.

Oh, and feel free to talk about the his first two installments: "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" and "Oldboy". Both excellent movies.

But I must say, it should be really cool to see a Lady have vengeance, Park Chan-Wook style. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



I didn't even knew there was a sequel to sympathy! Good!

[AlienAssKicker]

It's not a sequel, it's an entirely different movie.
It's just that the english titles are very similar.

But that's just because of the english translation, you'll notice that the korean title's are different:

"Boksuneun Naui Geot" for "Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance"
"ChinJeolhan Geum-Jassi" for "Sympathy For Lady Vengeance" but it actually translates to "The Kind Ms. Geomja".

[Beelze]

So there'll be killing?

[melt_core]

I was actually talking about "oldboy"

[AlienAssKicker]

"Oldboy" isn't a sequel. It's a movie of it's own. And shame on you for not knowing about it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[toadsponge]

AlienAssKicker said:
Korean title is "ChinJeolhan Geum-Jassi" (The Kind Ms. Geomja).

So, who else is desperatly waiting to see this?

clicky (http://www.filmacco.com/films/lady_veng.php)

I have high expectations for Park Chan-wook's final installment in his revenge films trilogy.

Oh, and feel free to talk about the his first two installments: "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" and "Oldboy". Both excellent movies.

But I must say, it should be really cool to see a Lady have vengeance, Park Chan-Wook style. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



Hell yeah. I finally saw Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance the other day. Loved it, but loved Oldboy even more. Park Chan-wook is the man. Have you seen any of his other flicks? I've seen Joint Security Area and Three Extremes as well, and the guy hasn't had a miss yet, as far as I'm concerned.

[AlienAssKicker]

Apart from Oldboy and Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance, I've seen CUT (from Three Extremes).

From what I've heard, those who were disappointed in SAW will find what they're looking for in CUT.
I haven't seen SAW since I knew it would suck because it's a hollywood movie. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Here's the CUT Trailer (http://218.38.19.146/mailling/monster_05/img/monster.wmv) for anyone interested.

I've been wanting to see JSA for quite some time now, I should get to it.

It seems that if it's a Park Chan-wook movie, it's garanteed to be a great movie.

[toadsponge]

An article in the NYT about the master:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/03/movies/03darg.html

[AlienAssKicker]

Would you mind posting that article here? I don't want to go through registering and ******** doesn't work with this website.

On a side note, I simply HATE how hollywood buys the rights to great asian movies (Korea in particular), limit their release in america whilst they do a remake of it. Then, the ignorant movie goers think "Yay, hollywood is really cool, they come up with very great and original movies."... bunch of fools http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

As for Oldboy's soon to be shameful remake, Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt are being considered for the leading role...




The Park Chan-wook film "Old Boy" will be reborn as a Hollywood movie. Cineclick Asia, the overseas marketer for the film, announced Tuesday that in the American Film Festival, it concluded a deal with the U.S movie company Universal Pictures to sell the rights to remake "Old Boy."

Cineclick Asia, quoting Universal Pictures, said Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt are being considered for the leading roles.

"Old Boy" depicts a psychological game between two men, Dae-soo and Woo-jin. Woo-jin confines Dae-soo to a room and observes him for 15 years. Dae-soo is shut up in a room without knowing the reason. Yoo Ji-tae and Choi Min-sik assumed the leading roles in the Korean version.

Cineclick Asia said that it could not precisely reveal the selling price of the movie, but the company earned about W3.8 billion in overseas markets including the deal with Universal Pictures.

A dozen Korean movies, such as "My Wife Is a Gangster," My Sassy Girl," "Love in October," "Janghwa, Hongryeon" and "Tell Me Something" have been sold to Hollywood moviemakers.

"Samaria" directed by Kim Ki-deok was sold to Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Russia, Italy, Greece, France, Germany and Mexico in the European Film Market and the American Film Market, Cineclick Asia added.

"Janghwa, Hongryeon," directed by Kim Ji-woon, sold the local selling right to the U.S film company Tartan and consequently made a profit of W3.9 billion.




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[toadsponge]

AlienAssKicker said:
Would you mind posting that article here? I don't want to go through registering and ******** doesn't work with this website.



Sorry 'bout that. Speaking of remakes, did you see that Scorsese is remaking Infernal Affairs? That one might actually be pretty good. Anyway, here's the Times article:

When the Korean director Park Chan-wook walked away with the second-most prestigious prize at the Cannes Film Festival last year, it did more than raise a few eyebrows and critical hackles. It signaled that this wasn't your father's hoity-toity snooze-fest; this was the new, improved Cannes, baby - fast and furious and genre-friendly. Mr. Park's award-winning "Oldboy," a blood-splattered revenge movie that features death by hammer and other such tasty sport, might have been an exploitation flick, but it was an arty exploitation flick.

You can get a sense of just how arty and exploitative Mr. Park's oeuvre is in the mini-retrospective of his work that begins today and runs through Sunday at BAMcinématek. Included in the series is "Oldboy," which I will review when it opens in theaters a couple of weeks from now; the omnibus feature "If You Were Me," which includes Mr. Park's short film "N.E.P.A.L. (Never Ending Peace and Love)"; the director's box-office smash "Joint Security Area," a surprisingly moving, tightly wound thriller about unlikely friendships among North and South Korean border guards; and his principal claim to cult auteur status, "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance," a hyper-violent film about organ theft, kidnapping and all manner of heartache.

To dispense with the obvious: the ascendancy of Mr. Park in the last few years is partly a testament to his talent. He knows where to put the camera, how to build tension inside the frame and through editing, and he has an eye for how striking fake blood can look pooling over the ground or blooming underwater. But the filmmaker's success in the international arena, his integration into the upper tier of the festival circuit and his embrace by some cinephiles also reflect a dubious development in recent cinema: the mainstreaming of exploitation. Movies that were once relegated to midnight screenings at festivals - and, in an earlier age, grindhouses like those that once enlivened Times Square - are now part of the main event.

Of course, one critic's exploitative slop is another critic's film of the year. And in 2002 Harry Knowles, from aint-it-cool-news.com, made Mr. Park's "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" his No. 1 pick. Before the film degenerates into senseless shocks and sadism, I am with Mr. Knowles: it is pretty terrific. Initially there isn't much of a plot, just a handful of characters, some dramatic situations (somebody needs a kidney, somebody loses one) and Mr. Park's striking mise-en-scène. The lead character is a deaf mute (played by Shin Ha-kyun, who appears in "Joint Security Area"), whose most important connections are with his diabetic sister (Lim Ji-eun), his conscience-impaired girlfriend (Bae Doo-na) and his former boss (the excellent Song Kang-ho, also from "Joint Security Area").

At the 45-minute mark, however, "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" transforms from a beautifully shot character study with glimmerings of political and social insight into a cavalcade of cruelty, yet another iteration of "Death Wish." Among the atrocities are a few gory baseball-bat murders; a would-be suicide via a knife to the belly; an extended torture scene involving electricity; and the lovingly photographed death of a child. The death is followed by the child's autopsy, a scene that includes unpleasant sights and crunching sounds.

And to what end? Mr. Park may be trying to say something about the futility of violence, but as with most films of this type, any meaning that might be derived from the onscreen carnage is canceled out by the filmmaker's obvious pleasure in its representation.

"Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" certainly has its admirers beyond fan boys and cult-movie enthusiasts. The film screened at two of the most prestigious festivals in the world, Berlin and Toronto, as well as at a handful of other minor such events. Along with "Oldboy," it will be released by the American division of the British-based Tartan Films, which puts out works of undisputed artistic worth, genre classics and pure schlock under the rubric Asia Extreme. The same company also distributed Catherine Breillat's art-house shocker "Anatomy of Hell," a recent example of what the critic James Quandt calls the New French Extremity. Among two of the most acclaimed practitioners of the new extreme cinema are festival darlings like Japan's Takeshi Miike ("Audition") and France's Gaspar Noé ("Irréversible").

Like the South Korean director Kim Ki-duk, perhaps best known for "Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring," Mr. Takeshi, Mr. Noé and Mr. Park have earned critical and institutional recognition, partly because of their ability to invent ever-more visually arresting ways to turn violence into entertainment. Unlike the great cultural provocations, like the French theater director Antonin Artaud's Theater of Cruelty, most of what falls under the aegis of extreme cinema is devised just to distract and reaffirm the audience's existing worldview: an eye for an eye, it's a dog-eat-dog world, ad nauseam. The violence in films like "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" doesn't challenge the status quo; it just affirms it by flattering paying customers for whom the movie screen will never be anything more than a reassuring mirror.

[AlienAssKicker]

Thanks, that was an interesting read.

I knew that there was a remake of Infernal Affairs (Apparently the whole trilogy will be compressed in one movie...) but I did not know that Scorsese was behind it.

And no, I don't think it will be any good compared to the original. I mean c'mon, we're talking about Infernal Affairs here, you can't possible do better then what it already is!

[AlienAssKicker]

The Trailer is out!!! (http://www.rebel-rouser.com/Trailers/Korea/LadyVengeanceTrailer2.wmv)

[Boo Boo Juice]

AlienAssKicker said:
Thanks, that was an interesting read.

I knew that there was a remake of Infernal Affairs (Apparently the whole trilogy will be compressed in one movie...) but I did not know that Scorsese was behind it.

And no, I don't think it will be any good compared to the original. I mean c'mon, we're talking about Infernal Affairs here, you can't possible do better then what it already is!


You can if Martin Scorsese is at the helm. Jack Nicholson is also in the movie as the mob boss. I am really excited to see this now.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed the original, but Andy Lau is nowhere near Martin Scorsese's skill in terms of directing.

Besides, the biggest influence for the movie was Martin Scorsese's "Taxi Driver" and "Goodfellas". So the person who influenced the original would probably make it better. Do I agree with the rest of the cast (Leonardo DiCaprio, and Matt Damon)? No, not really. It won't be the first time Leonardo DiCaprio has impressed/surprised me though.

Anyway, on to the real subject. I have been watching for this movie for a long while now, and it is almost at it's release date. Unfortunately, I don't live in Korea, and when I go there to visit my family after this quarter is over, I am sure it won't be in theatre anymore. I was wondering if anyone (I was thinking AAK might start this thread) would start a thread on this. Good thing I searched for it :P

I'm greatly looking forward to Sympathy for Lady Vengeance. Chan-wook blew me away with Oldboy. I then picked up JSA and Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, and those were pretty amazing movies too. So far this guy has done nothing but impress me with his skill.

Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance is definitley Chan-wook's worst movie I've seen so far. That doesn't mean the movie sucks though. I still enjoyed it and you can still learn from it. I am also picking up "3 Extremes" soon as well. I only want it because of Park Chan-wook and Lee Byung-hun. I really ***** hate Takeshi Miike (as I have stated many times in the past) and still think he shouldn't make movies. I've never seen a Fruit Chan movie. So I am really just interested in Cut and Dumplings.

Park Chan-wook is an amazing director and I'm looking forward to his new untitled project he is currently working on. It's a pretty weird idea, and in a way sounds like it could be a pretty neat film, but at the same time sounds kind of silly. As for "Sympathy for Lady Vengeance," I've already heard Chan-wook talk about it and I like what he had to say. I love how positive he is about his work: "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance was more of a cool movie. Oldboy was a movie that remained hot through the entire thing. I'd say 'Sympathy for Lady Vengeance' starts cool and ends hot."

A few other movies I am looking forward to and are being released on DVD soon are, "Crying Fist" and the one I have been looking forward to more than anything (aside from SFLV) is Kim Ji-woon's "A Bittersweet Life," starring Lee Byung-hun. Byung-hun has received a bunch of notice from the movie when it was shown at Cannes. A Hollywood agency responsible for some of America's top stars has even picked up Byung-hun and said that the states will see him in a movie in 2006. I don't think it will seriously happen, but it might.

On a last note: Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance (which was originall going to be released with Oldboy as a double-disc DVD) will be seeing it's US releasein theatres in August and the poster looks pretty spiffy.

3... Extremes will be released on October 28 through Lion's Gate Films. Just in time for Halloween, and if I don't have the DVD by then, then I will just go see it in theatre.

[LeadBullet]

I saw Oldboy before Sympathy for Mr. Vengence, and I can see what you mean about SFMV not being as good of a movie. It was good but it had more of a rushy low budget feel to it.

I don't get why people get bent out of shape about remakes though. If you don't like the remake STFU and go watch the original.

[AlienAssKicker]

Andy Lau, a director?? Nononono! I think you're referring to Andrew Lau. Andy Lau is an actor/singer. He's the one who played Ming (The bad cop) in the Infernal Affairs trilogy.

If you want to see Dumplings then I highly suggest you go for the extend edition that comes it it's own DVD instead of the one that's in 3 Extremes:

http://www.dvdasian.com/cgi-bin/dvdasian/18008.html

I also suggest you don't scroll all the way down in that website, some screenshots are spoilers.

As for Sympathy For Lady Vengeance; I just can't wait!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif