Recall to Hell Mod/TC

[Orochi Avlis]

Sayantan said:

Originally posted by Legion_X in the Official Recall to Hell forums
Another RtH veteran has emerged from a concept and will show you the true meaning of fear. Here is a beautiful progress line, starting from Hellscafes concepts up to the finished but not yet textured model made by richarduk. Of course our painter Chrike couldn't just sit back and immediately produced some atmospherically colored samples for the upcoming texturing. Here a little outline of the birth of a new monster...


http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/concept8.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/concept8.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/model16.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/model16.htm)


http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/concept22.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/concept22.htm)




Comments and Critiques are welcome. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


That's frickin awesome.

[Talos]

awesome... just awesome http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
best looking mod ever (so far) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Cerberus_e]

I just got a newsletter from this mod:
all i can say: AWESOME http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

a piece of what looks like concept art to me:
http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/concept23.htm

it will be genuinely cool to play this mod, because it offers an art direction differing quite a bit from Doom 3, new environments:
http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot42.htm

some cool corridor:
http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot44.htm

and last but not least: you HAVE to see this, it's a lot different frol Doom 3 and quake 4!
http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot43.htm

and also some screenshots of a quake 4 mod maede by someone from the recall to hell team:
http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot_el1dm2_1.htm
http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot_el1dm2_2.htm

[seregrail7]

Once agian I'm shocked at how good this mod looks.

[Steve]

Yeah! The mod looks better than ROE. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Cerberus_e]

I'd like to see some stuff Sayantan did... show me what in the screenshots is yours! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Sayantan]

Cerberus_e said:
I'd like to see some stuff Sayantan did... show me what in the screenshots is yours! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Nothing in those screens .... sorry. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Edit:- But hey, I'm currently working on the lowpoly of Larry. It's 92% done already. Hopefully we are gonna release some screenshots once the lowpoly is modelled, UV mapped and then normal mapped. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

BTW, Larry rings any bell? Doom3 Alpha video? corridor with moving lights? I don't think this creature is so easy to forget. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Sayantan said:

Cerberus_e said:
I'd like to see some stuff Sayantan did... show me what in the screenshots is yours! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Nothing in those screens .... sorry. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Edit:- But hey, I'm currently working on the lowpoly of Larry. It's 92% done already. Hopefully we are gonna release some screenshots once the lowpoly is modelled, UV mapped and then normal mapped. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

BTW, Larry rings any bell? Doom3 Alpha video? corridor with moving lights? I don't think this creature is so easy to forget. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



I remember him!! I thought he looked so badass, I was really pissed to find out he was taken out of Doom 3.

[Sayantan]

There's some sort of poll going on in "Doom3Files" (http://doom3.filefront.com/)

I'd be really glad if you could vote for Recall to Hell in it. We are already in the 2nd place tieing up with "Dawn of the Dead" mod. But a little help from you guys might push us up to "the one and only 2nd place holder".

Please do this for us guys. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Speaking of the progress of the mod:

Well for the last 3 months we were suffering a bottleneck in our workflow as we were having major problems exporting animations from Maya to Doom3. Hence no custom characters were being put in-game. Recently (yesterday to be precise) 2 members of our team (Vile and Avalanche) worked hard and sorted out the problem. So you can kinda say I'm in a very good mood (despite of having exams on 31st). So you can expect some serious media updates very soon.

And trust me guys, for the last 3 days, the RTH guys (including me ofcourse) are on a spree and kinda enjoying the wind of "way-to-success". Nvermind, that's my personal feeling.

See ya guys later. And next time expect a media update instead. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Drazula]

Done!

[Sayantan]

Thanks a lot. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Even one vote counts. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Malgon]

I'll be adding mine very soon. One mod to actually watch in the future. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Sayantan]

Thanks a lot guys.

We are running on the first place now with 55 votes, having Dawn of the Dead with 52 votes and LMS3 with 50 votes. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Sayantan]

YAYYY! We're still rulling with 62 votes YAAYYYY! (http://doom3.filefront.com/poll/2785x#809389) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Kalki]

64! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cerberus_e]

I did anther vote.

[Talos]

72 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

I voted for you guys, you have got 75 votes now.

[Ivan]

Kristian Joensen said:
I voted for you guys, you have got 75 votes now.



+1 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[X-Vector]

It's another poll that turns out a fanclub pissing match, but I'm still surprised to see so few votes for The Dark Mod.

Well, they have one extra now.

[Sayantan]

Yes exactly. If I were not a member of RTH, I'd have voted for Dark mod. That mod kicks ass.

Also guys, thanks a lot for voting. I can already assume that the recent huge number of votes are from you guys. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, as of right now there are three mods for Doom 3 I'm waiting for.

RTH, the Dark Mod, and Hexen: Edges of Chaos.

IMO all three look to be completely awesome, and they just can't come quick enough. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Also, waiting for Black Mesa Source and They Hunger: Lost Souls.

[seregrail7]

I'm pretty sure the new They Hunger: Lost Souls is a full game.

The Dark Mod is interesting, but the enviroments look very bland.

[Damien_Azreal]

seregrail7 said:
I'm pretty sure the new They Hunger: Lost Souls is a full game.





It is. It will be a full release, but I still look at it as a mod.

[Roger]

That's a pretty sick concept. Can't wait to shoot it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Sayantan]

Roger said:
That's a pretty sick concept. Can't wait to shoot it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Hehhe, good news is that both the low polygonal model and the high polygonal model of it is ready. Ie 70% done. Only 30% more and you can shoot it's arse out IN-GAME. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Sayantan]

YAYYYYYY!

We're still rulling with 94 votes. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

MUHAHAHAHAHA

[Neptune]

It's been a couple of months, and I'm curious if there have been any really big updates lately. Anything cool to report?

[Micki!]

Anything playable released..?
I wonder how it is... And what it'll be like...

[Sayantan]

Trust me but we are still busy for the next news update which is gonna be really cool n' big. That's all I'm gonna say for now. But to tell you the truth the things that are mainly going on right now are more towards making stuff in our mod more "functional" and therefore less went into "vast game building spree". Afterall pretty graphics are no good if it doesn't play good. Right? :)

[Talos]

Right! Man I can't wait for your mod :D

[Micki!]

Yeah, you're probably right Satan...
I hope there will at least be some video files, showcasing some stuff... Like enemies, animations, special effects, features etc... That would be nice... :)

[Sayantan]

Can't assure you video files. But I can indeed assure you'll :love: whatever update is there. :)

@ Micki:

Also as a side note, we are trying to make the feel of the mod like one of your favourite thing. You know what I'm talking about ... eh? :D

[Zizz]

wow, this is some badass thread about RTH :D

nice...! The news update will be fantastic indeed!

(edit; Hi Satan :love:) ^^

[Sayantan]

wow, this is some badass thread about RTH :D

nice...! The news update will be fantastic indeed!

(edit; Hi Satan :love:) ^^

Hi Zizz. And let's not forget the kick-ass map you are working on. It has already blowed my mind ..... those brush-work ..... :love:

BTW, is it your first post over here? :)

[Micki!]

Zizz has been here for some time now...
But appearantly you two know each other already... :D

[Cerberus_e]

Yes, I already saw him posting in the Prey forum... I immediately saw the link in his signature too :)

[Micki!]

^^
Heh, never checked that out... :D There are so many mods for Doom 3... :hhg:
I bet not many people have clicked on some of MY sig links yet... :( (i admit, the second link, called "The Gamez forums" sems a little "dead, but that's becasue we're doing stuff in all privacy... in a privte board where only chosen people have access to)

[Cerberus_e]

People click more on signature links than you suspect.
I used to have a little personal website which I put in my signature, and I made an ASP script that puts the HTTP_REFERER in a database of each visitor.
I still have the database, and a lot of entries have these forums in their referer column :)

[Sayantan]

Yes, I already saw him posting in the Prey forum... I immediately saw the link in his signature too :)

Hmm ..... these days I'm quite busy and never get time to visit the Prey forums. :o

Hey Zizz, isn't that pic in your sig the one I made? LMAO. :p

[Sayantan]

Here's what our team lead "Legion_X" had to say:-

Originally posted by legion_x
For more details, please visit: http://recalltohell.d3files.com/news.htm


The way was long and tiring until, at last, we saw the first twitches of our creations. This twitching has now become complete animation sets, which we will not keep to ourselves. Together with some new localities the whole team has gone to great lengths to spur on the progress.

Some interesting and impressive details about it, you can get here within the
> exclusive interview on moddb.com (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/interview.htm)

But don't just read my words, take a look for yourselves:



http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot47.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot47.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot45.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot45.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot46.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot46.htm)

Our mapper, Zizz, has been working pretty hard to make our Jupiter facility as uncomfortable and eerie as possible for your mind to accept. An old high-security prison complex constructed on a meteorite above Jupiter itself has yet to be explored, with fluctuations in gravity and cosmic anomalies to keep you occupied. New cybernetic lifeforms, made of blood and steel, are being created here. Created by assimilation of the steel structures and biological tissue of its former inmates in a maelstrom of uncontrolled, accelerating evolution.

[seregrail7]

Still looking great.

[Sayantan]

...... continued ......



http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot48.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot48.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/model17.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/model17.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot49.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot49.htm)

These creatures, deemed Flesh-Crawlers, are blind but have a very different mode of sight: they can sense electricity. Every unfamiliar source of electricity grabs their attention. Any new moving source is met with frightening aggression. You'd better deactivate any tool or weapon that uses electricity. Even those with digital GUIs or the emanations of a flashlight can make you an easy prey.





http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/model19.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/model19.htm)

Our pickaxe, being nonelectric, is completely safe. You'll find it deep within the mining tunnels and may use it as a weapon without hesitation. Three other weapons are also close to completion. Among them the Nailgun, which you can use to rain down rivets upon your enemies with tremendous speed. Next, the Oxidation Grenades, can disintegrate metallic enemies in seconds. The third is the Environmental Gun, which absorbs the particles of the environment, amplifies their characteristics, and puts them back out. So it becomes a flamethrower in hot areas, and a sort of Icegun in cold areas.



........ continued ..........

[Micki!]

Cooooool... :) :cool:

[Sayantan]

....... continued .....



http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot52.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot52.htm)

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http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot50.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot50.htm)

Meanwhile, our leadmapper Elusive has constructed a huge undersea base, diving passages and water-reflections included. This whole abandoned facility consists of over 60000 brushes and about 70% custom textures. Moreover it has got its own unique soundset, thanks to Dreyseth for that.



....... continued .......

[Sayantan]

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http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot53.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot53.htm)

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http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot61.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot61.htm)

Each location has its own unique look and distinct characteristics. Starting with the texture sets over different styles of architecture, up to exclusive GUI-themes for each planet. The screenshots above are showing some huge storage-depot.



........ continued ......

[Sayantan]

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http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/concept19.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/concept19.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/model18.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/model18.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot55.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot55.htm)


The Dark Beast skillfully uses its abilities to extinguish all electrical machinery, creating a large area of total darkness around itself. Even your battery-powered flashlight can't withstand the effect. The only thing you are left to rely on are meager magnesium flares and those heavy footsteps, echoing through the dark, growing closer by the second...



......... continued .........

[Sayantan]

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http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot56.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot56.htm)

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[Orochi Avlis]

The concept of the Flesh-Crawlers sounds very cool.

[Sayantan]

.......... continued ............


http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot63.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot63.htm)

Psyschokiller presents his solid piece of work with the oppressive Moon level, full of mine tunnels deep beneath the surface. Valuable ores are mined here by the PTMI and processed on-site, until they are transported to Earth. Through the various caves and mining tools, the mine generates a distinctive atmosphere, with swirling fog, dark shafts, and dim lamps contributing to your feelings of unease.




http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot59.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot59.htm)


These are Shadows. They have no fixed form and are always lingering in deep darkness. They will show their dreadful visage only when they are directly in front of you, grotesquely crawling towards you with terrible scratching noises, attacking from the ground or ceiling.

Extending the basic Doom3 engine by a couple of effects, our Coders Spuzz, Junkguy and Satan have created a unique look for RtH, suitable for a modern game. For example the atmospheric play of light and shadows is emphasized by simulated HDR and subtle LensFlare effects. Water surfaces cast realistic reflections on walls and ceilings. Details are highlighted by an exclusive version of Junkguy's Parallax Mapping. But special attention should be paid to our RtH-Bloom-Sharpening Shader, which adds a nice soft Bloom effect to the environment, but at the same time sharpens the overall display, including textures and objects. The mixture of both looks quite nice in-game and improves the whole optical experience by a level.

Of course we are also still in search of animators, modelers, coders [who are able to get our fully modelled, animated and textured monsters/weapons ingame] and shader artists [for nice water-, rain-, fog- and multiple weapon effects]. So in the following months we will be able to mod at least as efficiently as up to now. If you are interested, please post in the forum as usual.




For more details, please visit: http://recalltohell.d3files.com/news.htm

Comments and critiques are welcome. :)

BTW, this "you cant upload more than 5 pics" thing suxx.

[Damien_Azreal]

My god Sayantan, I love those Shadow things. :D Jus thte soft green tint to everything in that screen and the soft glow to their faces... f*cking awesome.

This is my number one Doom 3 mod. :love:

[Neptune]

My god man.

This is the reason I bought Doom 3.

Remeber how, a looong time ago, I told you that knew you guys would fly high with this mod? Well... here it is. Hats off to you sir. You have created what looks to be a better game than ID Software.

PS: The shadows are VERY impressive.

[Talos]

Whoaaaa.... Just like Neptune said: This is what I bought Doom 3 for!
This mod is so slick looking - If I wouldn't knew better I would say it isn't a mod!!
Seriously this is hot stuff and destined to be mod of the year in any contest!
I love the dark beast and the flesh-crawlers sounds absolutely fun to fight (or better yet: fun by trying to avoid them)

This made my day!! Keep up the extremely good work!

[Yatta]

****ing shit that's ****ing awesome, holly **** (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot49.htm). The censored words best describe how much I'm impressed with the mod. Looks (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot51.htm) better (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot55.htm) than anything else I've seen in the Doom 3 engine to date. :eek:

[Sayantan]

Thanks a lot for the sweet words of appreciation guys. :love:

Well the only thing I can say is that we tried our best to squeeze the most out of the engine. And the same way we will continue our work till the mod is complete. :)

I'm feeling even better coz in the sad days when all people switched their D3 projects over to the Quake4, we didn't. We chose to stick to Doom3 and improve there only ....... coz we respect our roots ........ being a Doom3 mod team. :D

Also if you guys will notice in the interview, we have lastly named our team "Gridlock" ..... yeah just gridlock. :woot:

[Yatta]

Sayantan, two questions.

Are you the level designer?

and

Does the Doom 3 engine limit the number of polygons in characters? That pinky-esque monster you guys got going is better looking than some Quake 4 models, even.

[avatar_58]

Those models are really effing amazing! :D

[Sayantan]

Sayantan, two questions.

Are you the level designer?


No, I'm not. I'm employed in the team as a "Technical Modeler and Texture Artist". Previously I was also the "Modeling Team Lead", but I resigned being the lead coz I became very busy with studies and it was great deal of responsibility to do my work as well as track all the modelers and their progress.:)



Does the Doom 3 engine limit the number of polygons in characters? That pinky-esque monster you guys got going is better looking than some Quake 4 models, even.

As me and many other D3 engine supporters in this forum said in all the engine based threads before that "there's really no such restrictions in polycount that the D3 engine holds". But it's just that you have to reach an optimal goal where your polycount is lower as well as the detail on the model looks satisfactory. The detailed look of a model also depends on how good of a normal mapping and specular mapping job along with the diffuse map you have done. So the monster you see there is really not that detailed in polys as you might think from the screenshot.:cool:

[gt1750]

Man, this looks so hot! Makes me want new hardware!

[Zizz]

Thanks for the sweet comments in here! Its greatly aprecciated!! It's what keeps us motivated over the months...years...:D

(level designer speaking :) )

[Sayantan]

Thanks for the sweet comments in here! Its greatly aprecciated!! It's what keeps us motivated over the months...years...:D

(level designer speaking :) )


Hehhe yeah .... now that our rushed busy-ness for the news is over, lets wait for Prey.:p

[SyntaxN]

Holy crap, this Dark Beast monster is f*cking awesome :insomnia:
I expected ideas like this one in the original Doom 3...imo this is the best way to demonstrate Doom 3´s realtime lightning tech :)

[Malgon]

This looks to be the most promising mod for any game imo. There seems to be a LOT of effort going into it's creation, and the shots shown so far are of A grade quality. Great stuff, and I'm sure we are all looking forward to playing this someday in the future. :cool:

[Zizz]

lets wait for Prey.:p

Wish i could find something else to do, meanwhile ;) :D

btw: ^^ those are some compliments guys :love: ^^

[Sayantan]

btw: ^^ those are some compliments guys :love: ^^

Indeed. It's always nice to come back to this thread, see all the appreciation, get charged up, and again go back to work on RTH with full intentions.

Thanks for the fuel guys. We need it. :D

BTW, I wanted to add something here, just to make sure. None of the screenshots you see is photoshopped at all, except for placing the logo. All of them are absolutely what you'll see in-game when you'll play it. If you're wondering about the slightest softness in the screenshots, it's due to our unique bloom shader.

[Yatta]

Now then, what are the estimated system requirements? :D

[Talos]

None of the screenshots you see is photoshopped at all, except for placing the logo. All of them are absolutely what you'll see in-game when you'll play it. If you're wondering about the slightest softness in the screenshots, it's due to our unique bloom shader.

Awesome I was wondering if that lens flare was photoshopped but now that you say nothing has been retouched.... wohoooo!!
/me loves lens flares :love: :love:

[Sayantan]

Awesome I was wondering if that lens flare was photoshopped but now that you say nothing has been retouched.... wohoooo!!
/me loves lens flares :love: :love:

Actually we had a properly working lens flare for the last 10 months. So it's kind of an old thing which never was intended to be showcased .... but it did end up in that screenshot now. :)

[hanged_man]

great work guys ...but id love to see some videos especially for the new demon to see how good the animation is

[Sayantan]

Now then, what are the estimated system requirements? :D

I have no idea ..... really ...... anything with the Doom3 engine stutters in my shitty PC. So I have no idea to even imagine. :D

great work guys ...but id love to see some videos especially for the new demon to see how good the animation is

Dont you think we should be wasting more of our valuable free time on the mod itself rather than shooting fancy videos? :)

[Micki!]

Get this mod finished already, damnit... :( :cool:

[Mongorian]

Just wanted to join in on the praise. Those Shadow things give me goosebumps.

[Sayantan]

This is what our modleader Legion_X had to say:-

Originally posted by legion_x
We would like to invite all current Doom³ modifications [DarkMod, SapphireScar, Facing Hell, Dungeon Doom, and all others] to a little pilot project:

Over the course of the past months every modteam has developed special strong points and expertise in certain areas, but they might not be as experienced or simply understaffed in others. Furthermore, some problems might occur in handling the rather sensitive and nitpicky Doom³ engine. For instance, it took us quite a while of experimentation to satisfactorily integrate models into our maps. We think it possible, that you might be facing similar or different problems, which might already have been solved by other teams. It means a loss of precious time if each modteam has to reinvite the wheel for itself and try around on their own for months.

We would like to offer a place, in which exclusively active Doom³ modders will meet and discuss among themselves, give tips and maybe lend a hand here and there. Each one brings in his strengths and in the end, everyone will benfit from it. We want to point out, that each modification will persist uniquely and independently with all their individual traits and innovative ideas. But we think it’s important that all the active modifications on Doom³ support and assist each other in such a way.

For this purpose, we have created a small forum – from Doom³ modders for modders. Away from the public, it’s also possible to discuss some more or less closed concerns, support or sometimes directly lend a hand with some tasks. Like this all teams can move a little closer together and help each other – for less time consuming experimentation, more efficient work, direct tips and support and a faster mod release.





So we would like to invite all members and modders of Doom³ modifications [DarkMod, SapphireScar, Facing Hell, Dungeon Doom, and all others] to this small forum:

Just please drop a short line here below in this thread, telling at which modification you're currently working. We will give you access to the forum asap.

SOURCE (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=1497&page=1&sid=)

[Talos]

a very nice action :)
On a side note: A can't wait for a new update on Recall to Hell ;)

[Telee]

Sweet, I look forward to the final release date :cool:

[Sayantan]

BTW guys check that thread out in our forum. There's something interesting about this guy named 'Zombie' about whom there were lots of talks within us in the last few posts. But I wont tell you, please check it out yourself. ;)

[Neptune]

WOW! I almost couldn't believe that! That's so sweet that d00d is taking an interest.

[avatar_58]

Well keep up the good work and maybe more of Splash Damage will take notice of your talents ;)

[Telee]

I thought that the mod was dead, I guess I was mixed up with another mod ;)

[Drazula]

This is what our modleader Legion_X had to say:-



SOURCE (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=1497&page=1&sid=)

I thought that was what this forum (http://www.doom3world.org/phpbb2/index.php?sid=ce43552e36d80b66acecbf4dc2c712a8) was for?! Anyway it is nice to see you guys working together!

BTW guys check that thread out in our forum. There's something interesting about this guy named 'Zombie' about whom there were lots of talks within us in the last few posts. But I wont tell you, please check it out yourself. ;)
Fantastic that the pros are taking an interest.

[Sayantan]

Actually it's very encouraging to us. We are having a feeling that we are 'not indeed' wasting our time for all these months. :)

[Sayantan]

The "Gridlock" team is looking for voice actors for their ongoing project "Recall to Hell".

Please go here for more information (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=1677).

Edit: Please post your application over here (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=3&sid=) only. :)

[Malgon]

Sounds like it'd be fun, but unfortunately I have no experience! :hhg:
Must be some steady progress going on with the mod though if they are ready for voice acting. Definitely a mod I've been interested in since the first shots/concepts were shown. :cool:

[Micki!]

The "Gridlock" team is looking for voice actors for their ongoing project "Recall to Hell".

Please go here for more information (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=1677).

Edit: Please post your application over here (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=3&sid=) only. :)

I can make a pretty good Perverted/deep voice, at least acording to others...
Judge for yourself, here's an example of how i sound with that voice:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzX_WRkin8
---
my english is best if i use anything else than my real voice imo :o

[Sayantan]

Please post in the job section in our forum. I can't judge anybody alone over here. :)

[Micki!]

Please post in the job section in our forum. I can't judge anybody alone over here. :)

Ohh :o
I'll do that...

[Sayantan]

BTW, that video was hilarious!! :D ..... :insomnia:

[Micki!]

Thanks :D
Hopefully it can be used for the project...
I like to do that voice, it's fun... :)

"Aaaeeehhh..! what does this red button do..?" :o

[Malgon]

If only I had a microphone... I'd actually see what I end up sounding like when recorded. :o

[Sayantan]

I sound very wierd and really bad when recorded. :mryuck:

[Drazula]

The "Gridlock" team is looking for voice actors for their ongoing project "Recall to Hell".

Please go here for more information (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=1677).

Edit: Please post your application over here (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=3&sid=) only. :)
Count me in! :)

[Sayantan]

Damn, how come have I missed your post? Anyways register in our forum and apply in the "jobs" section please 3DR forum grandpa. :D

[Damien_Azreal]

If only I had a microphone...

[Micki!]

If only there was more fitting lines for me to test my perverted voice with :tinyted:
I fear the accent which may occur if i'd be using my actual voice :o

[Sayantan]

Just 'act' it out. Our first and foremost priority is how good the person can act with his voice. His recording equipment would be the 2nd and thereafter his voice quality would be the third priority.

[Micki!]

well, part of acting is making it sound well too... so if my accent interferes with my ability to act, it wouldn't sound very good...

but i could try anyways... i have never really used my actual spoken english much...

[Malgon]

I might buy a mic and then check out the link. Could be fun. :)

[Sayantan]

On behalf of the whole 'GRIDLOCK' team I request all of you to vote for us in the 5th Annual Mod of the Year Awards (http://mods.moddb.com/4168/reca-to-he/) if you do think we deserve it. All in all when it comes to voting, it all lies in the hands of you people. So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make our hard work worth it and vote! :D

Thanks. :love:

[Talos]

voted! Good luck!

PS: Release date? *g*:p

[Micki!]

I voted... you guys deserve it damnit..!

[Sayantan]

@ Talos:

It's still WID, but nothing like it's gonna take a reaaally loooong time. You can count on that. ;)

The main time that'll be taken later on is IMO on the tuning of all these "huge" amount of stuff we already have made to play the music in sync to one another ..... like the London Symphony orchestra. :)

@ Micki!:

Thanks man. I hope we dont let you down when the mod is released. :D

[Yatta]

I voted, but I demand that you allow me to Beta test the mod. :(

[Neptune]

Mindif I ask how long play-time in the mod is supposed to last? Is it going to be a relativley short playtime, or a longer than average time? If you don't know, could you throw a number out that's in the ball park?

I've been following this mod since the death of Doom 3: Hell on Earth, and will follow it to the depths of hell. It looks awesome.

[Sayantan]

@ Yatta:

No idea, but we can discuss WID. :D

@ Neptune:

It's very speculative about the playing time right now, so I dont want to throw any numbers. But all I can say is that by no means it's gonna be less than ROE, maybe slightly more than that, we shall see WID. :)

Damn I'm becoming such a fanatic of Joe throwing his mantra every now n then. :D

[avatar_58]

I already voted for GE:S. :o

[Sayantan]

:insomnia:

[avatar_58]

I forgot man, cut me some slack :D *votes again with another IP*

[Sayantan]

Thanks a bunch for all the effort guys. Much appreciated. :D

/starts thinking what should be ideal for a little bit of "show-off"

[Damien_Azreal]

Yes... more show-off. :p

[Micki!]

Yes, more stuff...
Do it because we demand it :tinyted:

I have a piece of blackboard chalk, and some candles, and i dare to use it if our needs are not accepted... :hhg:

[Sayantan]

Max Payne Junkie: It's coming ..... it .. it's coming. :p

Also dont worry, I just saw a screenshot from one of our mappers that kept my jaw dropped on the floor for a minute. :D

[Talos]

Can't wait to see it myslef! ;)

[Sayantan]

Here's the media update prepared exclusively for the ModDB MOTY event. Here's what our team lead Chris "Legion_X" Donner had to say about it:-

Originally posted by legion_x at the RTH official website
Moddd.com annually nominates the best modifications. If you like our presentation and, of course, our mod itself, vote for Recall to Hell with a single click here (http://mods.moddb.com/4168/reca-to-he/). Thank you!

We have once more collected all the facts and features around Recall to Hell and put them in a nutshell on a presentation-site. Together with the impressive images of our gallery, you can use this to once again fully inform yourself about our mod, its story, enemies, weapons, other features and our motives: Presentation-Site (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/presentation_eng.htm)
Something is stirring between our brushes. During the last 2 months the team has gotten 4 eerie creatures and 3 corresponding weapons into the mod, complete with texture, animations and code. So this time we can gladly give you an account of our in-game experiences:


http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot64.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot64.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot65.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot65.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot66.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot66.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot67.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot67.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot68.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot68.htm)


continued .....

[Sayantan]

..... continued ...


http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot69.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot69.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot70.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot70.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot71.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot71.htm)

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/thumbnails/shot72.jpg (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/images/screens/shot72.htm)


Legion_x: „In addition to some well known weapons Recall to Hell will also feature a large number of unusual but effective mining tools. I find the Riveter particularly impressive in the game. It fires small but extremely hard steel-rivets. I carefully move through the tunnels accompanied by a buzzing sound. I can literally nail smaller enemies directly to the next wall with it. Bigger adversaries are painfully covered by a steel-rain, which is cynically complemented by the dull weapon sounds.”

Elusive: „It’s quite a fascinating experience to see the creatures which were created in time-consuming work come to life and to be able to face them with a loaded weapon. Especially the dark beast is one of the nastiest creatures in my opinion, because it has the ability to extinguish all electrical light in the vicinity, leaving me in ghastly darkness. Now I have to rely on my hearing, since it is essential to locate and destroy the monster. The only chance lies with the relative slowness of the creature, which leaves me with the necessary time to find out in which of the countless dark corners of the Rth-Universe it might be hiding and from which direction it might attack… And even in the moment of maximal concentration I have to watch out, in order not to be struck by one of the scorching electric attacks the Darkbeast is able to send out. Because the unexpected shock I will feel, which will make me flinch in my chair, is but the faintest of the consequences of such a devastating attack…”

Legion_x: „We are currently making very good progress and are working quick and efficient in the most fields by now. Previously we often had some minor problems with the Doom³Engine and its peculiarities, which have cost us a lot of time, nerves and even some motivated members. However, by now a much smaller but therefore better harmonized and more reliable core-team has formed out of the initially almost unmanageable 35 modders. Of course that shouldn’t obscure the fact that we are still in need of some talented and motivated people, especially in the fields of mapping and coding, in order to keep the workflow as satisfactory.”



For more information visit our modsite (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/)!

So please please please 3DR forum dwellers, vote for us! :D

[Gryph]

Voted. The mod looks fantastic. I hope this mod will open game design job doors in the future for you guys.

[avatar_58]

Christ, for a mod you guys have some good stuff there. My only criticism would be that the art direction is very similar to what we've already seen in Doom 3, Prey and Quake 4. You have your own style by the looks of that 5th shot and the outdoor stuff, but at the same time the whole metallic corridor look doesn't excite me much. :(

I love the weapons and monsters.

[Damien_Azreal]

Absolutely love the look of everything there. :love: Sayantan, you guys have got the best, most atmospheric and creepiest looking mod for Doom 3 right there.
I can't wait til it's done. :D

[Yatta]

Goddamn! How the **** did you get it to look so detailed? Looks nicer than Prey/Quake 4.

[Sayantan]

Thank you Sire for the sweet comments. :love:

@ Avatar:

Trying to change the look would be a suicidal attempt for us. Actually we're "on" for the same creepy design aesthetics that iD did yet changing the 'way' you had played Doom3. Other than that it's not really difficult to change the look as you've already seen with many other mods. :)

[avatar_58]

@ Avatar:

Trying to change the look would be a suicidal attempt for us. Actually we're "on" for the same creepy design aesthetics that iD did yet changing the 'way' you had played Doom3. Other than that it's not really difficult to change the look as you've already seen with many other mods. :)

I understand that, but my only problem is that I've kind of "done it all before" so to speak. It's not a fault of your mod really. I'm sure once I play it I'll change my tune since it appears to be much more than what Doom 3 was.

I'd be saying the same thing if another retail space shooter was released. In general I guess I'm just bored with the setting (unless it is used creatively like in System Shock 2)

[Sayantan]

Let's hope for the best guys. :D

[Steve]

****ing sweet, mate!

[Mr_Diffrence]

Awesome shots! Been following this one for a bit, hope it'll get released soon! :)

[hanged_man]

Voted. These shots look AMAZING. Hope ID Software guys notice your work and hire you. This mod is the most professional fans-made thing i've ever seen. but still id love to see a video to see all these new things in motion.

[Micki!]

That's absolutely amazing... hard to imagine this is made by a modding team... :o
(voted naturally for RTH)

I hope you guys make a hit, because it certainly looks like one... :cool:

[Malgon]

Voted champ. :cool:
Awesome environmental detail in all the work seen so far, and the feel of it is top notch. Really looking forward to what the team is cooking up in terms of the story department and gameplay mechanics. Can't wait. :)

[gt1750]

Very impressive, pity I can't run Doom3.

I voted for you and I'm surprised they accepted my vote after I voted for Black Mesa:Source :o

[Tang Lung]

I can't type what Im thinking without getting banned for excessive swearing, so I'll just say...

This mod looks rather good if I do say so myself. I have voted for it with the force of a billion nuclear explosions.

[seregrail7]

Love the weapons, they look excellent.

[Halloween4]

Voted: This is some kick ass work.....Nice one & keep us updated dude....;)

[Telee]

Woah! awesome stuff! This mod has caught my attention now! :)

On a side note, I had no idea you were part of this project :eek:

[Orochi Avlis]

Wow. That's just amazing.
I hope the mod gets released soon.

[Krust]

Voted. Looks great! The atmosphere seems brilliant! That's some jaw-hit-floor quality you got there.

[Sayantan]

Thanks a LOAD for all these beautiful encouraging comments guys. You have NO idea how charged you people have made us (along with the people on Doom3world and moddb). We have a great force working within us this very moment after all these appreciations. I love you all. :love:

Now if you'd excuse me, I should get back to work ... LOL. :D

[Neptune]

Now if you'd excuse me, I should get back to work ... LOL. :D


That's right! *Cracks whip*

Get back to work, you!

[Sayantan]

*Phat* Hey that hurts man. :D

[Kalki]

Sexy work. Voted yesterday.

[Talos]

voted (now twice I guess :D). Looks awesome as always! Truly impressive detail and oh so beatiful environments. I love the shown weapon models - Jaw dropping work. Keep it up and take all the time it takes to make this not only a visual beauty.
Btw. thanks for the PM ;) Appreciated it.

[Damien_Azreal]

I keep looking through the screens again, I love the whole look and feel of it. The dark atmosphere looks creepy as hell. And I love the detail and design of the monsters, of course the shadow creatures posted a few pages back are still my favs. :love:

Truely great work there, Sayantan and the other guys on the team, you guys are doing a truly amazing job. Keep it up and make it a masterpiece.

Oh yeah, I voted a few days ago. ;)

[Sayantan]

Gee thanks. ^^ :love:

[Malgon]

Btw. thanks for the PM Appreciated it.

Yeah, I forgot to say thanks as well! :o :D

[Micki!]

Yeah, me too... :o

[Drazula]

Voted! The mod looks great! When will it be ready?

[Sayantan]

W.I.D. ....... BAHAHAHAHAHAHA ....... with due respect to 3DR. LOL. :D

[Sayantan]

Yes guys, that's right. :woot:

We have successfully managed to pull ourselves up to be among one of the 100 best mods this year(one of the 3 best mods for Doom3). Thanks to all you who've votes so far. The second phase of the voting has started about an hour ago. Now it's once again all upto you guys to push us again upwards as much as possible by VOTING US. (http://awards.moddb.com/2006/nominations/)

So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE vote for us again guys. It's just a mouse click away since you've already registered. :D

..... if you do, we might have a little something for you very soon. :wid:

[Micki!]

voted... :cool:

[lonestar]

how long has it been in development, sayantan? i can remember reading about it a pretty long time ago.

[Sayantan]

As you people know already these things do take a bit of time. But recently our speed has increased from the day this moddb thing has been openned up. And trust me, I can already see it being finished someday. There's not even a single reason 'against' it's release in the future. I myself had a personal experience of TC failure in the past. Hence I have grown a sense to sense these things. ;)

[hanged_man]

voted ....Please Sayantan release a video soon

[Talos]

Voted for RtH and Black Mesa Source.
Both awesome mods with a bunch of really talented people at work!

[Sayantan]

Thanks a lot man. :D

For people who didn't notice, I beg once again to vote for our mod so that we could at least stand a chance in the big fight. :insomnia:

..... and mind you. There are 38 HL2 mods whereas just 3 Doom3 mods. Hence we need your support very badly. :(

[Phait]

Well what does that tell you?

Yep.

:D

Nah best of luck, would be good to see an underdog. (Don't want to derail the thread but I did a website for a D3 mod and now their site is down, and I specifically stated in their forums - reasons why their mod may not succeed. It wasn't intended as a bash, just an open look at how they could fail - everybody took it well and discussed. Too bad it was kind of a prophecy....)

[Sayantan]

LOL, what mod is it?

[Phait]

Central Conflict

[Sayantan]

Can you get me the link for it?? please??

[Phait]

http://www.centralconflict.com nothing there anymore
http://mods.moddb.com/4024/central-conflict/
Design: http://www.phaitaccompli.com/crap/cc.jpg

[gt1750]

Voted for RtH and Black Mesa Source.
Both awesome mods with a bunch of really talented people at work!

I did the same thing yesterday. Both mods look like professional job.

Still, BMS is my favorite, just because of the fact I can run HL2 decently, unlike Doom 3 :(

[Sayantan]

@ Phait:

They had it coming. I donno why, their way of "taking up/dealing with things" doesn't seem very professional to me.

@ Talos and gt1750:

Thanks a lot. We need your support till it ends n all. :D

[Malgon]

Voted again for you Sayantan. :cool:

And also for Black Mesa Source, and Deus HDTP! :D

[NetNessie]

404 5char

[Kristian Joensen]

I voted for RtH, you guys really deserve it.

[Sayantan]

Thanks a lot guys. Your love is all that we need now. :love:

@ NetNessie:

Not sure, nobody else is having problems. BTW, what does "5char" mean?

[Blade Nightflame]

Partially self-explenatiory, it's used to get past the rule of having minimally 5 characters in posts, people use that when they only want to quote someone.

[Sayantan]

Oh ..... I get it now. The old ubb forum didn't have this stupid thing. :insomnia:

[Talos]

Any news on this one? =)

[Sayantan]

W.I.D. :insomnia:

[Talos]

mkay - Hope you're on track ;)
Looking forward to the next news release!

[Neptune]

Well, it's been a LONG time since we've heard anything. Is the game still being actively worked on? Any idea about how far in you guys are (seems to me, like 60% from last press release)

Man, I've been looking forward to this mod for a while now.

[Micki!]

Some update would be nice... i wanna play it :o...

[Kev_Boy]

What's going on?
Your forums also got hacked or overloaded I heard? That sucks :(

[Yatta]

Is this mod still being made?

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, there hasn't been any news in a while.

[Nihilanth]

Yeah, there hasn't been any news in a while.

In a long while. :(

[Steve]

Indeed. I really want to play it. It's hard to believe that it's just a mod ... I mean, look at it! :eek: :)

[Kev_Boy]

Chapter releases would be a good idea, instead of just dragging on and on. That way things get released sometime soon ;)

[Talos]

Man I feel like I'M waiting forever for this mod. Doom 3 is one of my all time favorite games and this mod will be the perfect addition.

Can't wait it looks fabulous.

[psyborg]

I think the problem with Doom 3 mods is that none of them set reasonable goals. Thats why most of them are cancelled or are still dragging on 3 years later.

Not trying to be negative or anything I hope this mod comes to completion and is succesfull, but if some of these mods would have made "episodes" or used a bit more vanilla assets rather than trying to make an entirely new game we'd have a ton more Doom 3 mods to play (way back when we still had Doom3 installed).

[Talos]

I've still got it installed and play it from time to time :)

[Kev_Boy]

I've still got it installed and play it from time to time

In that case, I demand you focus (http://doom3.filefront.com/file/The_Focus;79118)! :D

[Damien_Azreal]

Classic Doom 3 is the best released mod so far, IMO.

[Zizz]

Well i can tell you guys...the release date won't be later then...next millenium :D

jk, process is being made reguarly. And yes, there is word to release our mod in episodes.

[peoplessi]

Classic Doom 3 is the best released mod so far, IMO.

I agree, and Recall to Hell should have some news released to keep the interest up.

[psyborg]

Classic Doom 3 is the best released mod so far, IMO.

Agreed, I loved it until the last update; they redesigned one of the levels for the worse and added bad cutscenes, their original weapons were kinda crappy too.

But yea the earlier releases were awesome, and the music remakes rocked.

[hanged_man]

Well i can tell you guys...the release date won't be later then...next millenium :D

jk, process is being made reguarly. And yes, there is word to release our mod in episodes.

it's good to see you back here Zizz :) ....We're still from your team some news or maybe a small media update (like a video) to bring up the interest in the mod again

[Zizz]

We're talking about a next update :) But we never wanted todo just another screen update sinse the last one but come up with things like real action footage.

Meanwhile i can give you this

http://www.pcaction.de/?article_id=603309

It contains some new screens i believe.

[Malgon]

Yeah, I'm still in interested in playing this one day. I'm sure the team is buckling down hard, and only coming up when they feel they have added significantly to the game. Should be good. :)

[psyborg]

http://www.pcaction.de/screenshots/medium/2007/06/Recall_to_Hell_5.jpg
http://www.pcaction.de/screenshots/medium/2007/06/Recall_to_Hell_1.jpg
http://www.pcaction.de/screenshots/medium/2007/06/Recall_to_Hell_2.jpg

pretty cool.

[Malgon]

I was disappointed that the Spider Mastermind didn't make it into D3 (even though id actually had some concept work). It's cool to see the RTH team adding in their version, which looks totally awesome. :cool:

[Neptune]

Just wondwering how things are coming along? I noticed on the website you got a post from John Romero, so I think its prettty cool he's interested in it. Has any work been done at all?

[Micki!]

I want this mod released already :o

[ADM]

I noticed on the website you got a post from John Romero

Couldn't find that.. link?

[Yatta]

It's been 3 years. I want this mod too. :(

[Neptune]

sure. http://recalltohell.d3files.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2030&sid=10402c10e74f981bc926f53b4bbd2a26&start=0

I'll copy his post here too for you guys:

I remembered about it today after almost 2 years of not checking the site.
I have to admit I didn't even remember the name of the mod, I had to search for "total conversion doom3 mod" on google, to find some places from where I found other places on which I found links to your site.

What I must say is that I am a person that knows allot about gaming industry, most actually call me a pioneer in the gaming industry especially in the fps industry and I really must say your screens still even now in 2008 look better than maps I have seen in engines like for ex unreal 3 engine.
The maps and 3d models look more than ok, I wonder how the hell are you still not working for a huge ass game company?

What i must urge you guys to do is to stop with the new ideas and get the old ones implemented and working and release this mod in 2008 or early 2009 because if you stall it much longer, it won't matter if you are gona release it since it will look too outdated and nobody will care anymore.
People already don't care about doom3 graphics since 2006 so try to understand that you are in danger of transforming all that gigantic work into a pile of old dusty stuff that nobody will care about.

My professional advice would be to stop the story of your mod at the point where you are right now and do your best to RELEASE it as it is ASAP.
If people like it, you can continue your ideas in a new mod on quake wars engine or on unreal 3 engine so you can have something on the current graphics.

I really want you guys to trust me and believe me I do not want you guys to see the huge failure that could happen to this project if you don't release it soon.
The failure of a mod is one thing but you guys are real talented people that shouldn't have to know what epic failure means.
The team behind this mod has seen lots of talented people but sadly the organisation behind it is very poor.Such talent should not be spend so much time only on one mod.
Such talents should be hired in the gaming industry to produce much more than what has been produced on this mod in such a long time.

From what I've seen in your screens everything looks over detailed, the details are exagerated on everything, it impressed me in 2005 , and it impresses me now the same after I've seen crysis and unreal 3 engine games.

Do what is right guys, perfectionism must have it's boundaries or else your project will never see the light of day.
You already have too much details, those levels look infinitely better than what ID did in doom3, it is time to stop detailing and starting to actually animate and bind the puzzle.

The guy that created e1m1 made this post.
I hope this was a good motivation for you guys to continue and I might just need some of you guys like what I see when this mod is complete

[Yatta]

Thanks. And here's the Google cache of the original page for people like me who can't access the link:

http://209.85.207.104/search?q=cache:MBOuZQTjyRMJ:recalltohell.d3files.c om/phpbb/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D4%26p%3D32976+%22The+guy+that+ created+e1m1+made+this+post.%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

[Duke's New Chainsaw]

I'm still looking forward to this. It's been in my 'MODs' folder in my bookmarks.

[Kev_Boy]

Could this be the... DNF of MODs? ;)

[X-Vector]

RtH has been in development for less than a decade, so I'd say that comparison is a bit premature.

The glass is half full, guys!

[Nihilanth]

Still patiently waiting here.

[Mountain Man]

Interesting advice from Romero. Sadly, it seems to be the fate of all overly ambitious mod projects, or perhaps mod projects in general. Mod makers don't have the same constraints placed on them as someone working for a company, and "perfection at all costs" becomes the rule because that's how they think things should be done. Don't give an inch. Don't ever compromise. Just create the best damn product humanly possible.

And so it ends up that the team starts to lose enthusiasm, fans drift away, and if the mod isn't abandoned, it's released to so little fanfare that it quickly fades away into obscurity.

I suppose if there's anybody who knows the heartache that comes from over promising and under delivering, it's Romero.

[avatar_58]

The worst part of it is - the longer they wait, the smaller the audience. Sure a few of us will play and say "*** yeah!" but had they released it closer to Doom 3 it could have been a real hit. Doom 3 is almost irrelevant these days. It would take one hell of a mod to make people turn their heads.

[Phait]

Same idea with DNF.

[avatar_58]

True, but a sequel isn't quite the same as user-made content. Look at Turok - it's selling well on a name that few even remember.

It depends on the game's popularity. A new HL2 mod would be played by many, even if it's only "okay". A Doom 3 mod though? I like the game, but let's face it - it's fallen off the radar.

[Mountain Man]

Same idea with DNF.
Eh, not really. Yes, DNF is technically a sequel, but it's still a full-blown stand-alone game that will live or die on its own merits. Not to mention I'm sure 3D Realms will have one hell of a marketing campaign in place to combat consumer complacency.

A mod, on the other hand, is very much tied to the game it's created for, and as Romero pointed out, Doom 3 is all but irrelevant these days, and this Recall to Hell mod won't get much marketing beyond a smattering of worth-of-mouth recommendations among die-hard Doom 3 fans. For that matter, I don't think even a commercial Doom 3 add-on produced by id themselves would find much interest among consumers these days.

[Malgon]

Good points made by all. I just hope the talent of the RtH team goes on to something greater in the future.

[Drazula]

A lost opportunity.... :(

[Talos]

Sayantan isn't even responding :( I was really looking forward to this mod.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, since the thread activity has risen I've been hoping Sayantan would make a post.... saying anything.

[Neptune]

I actually haven't seen that guy in a while, though, so maybe he won't be back? Or maybe he's just taking a break from the forum or something.

You can always try posting at the official forums, but that thing is hardly ever used anymore. This is so sad, too. heck, even a few months ago when they did their lasst update it made everyone really interested in it again, so it's not as though no one cares.

I've been considering teaching myself how to make maps using the doom 3 editor simply to help these guys out, but map making is so foreign to me now, the last level I made was for Quake 3 a LONG time ago.... and it was crap. Before that, the only editors I ran was Wolfenstein 3D and the Duke 3d Build Engine, and that engine (i've heard) is one of the easiest editors around.

bah, whatever. I'll keep you guys posted if anything comes up, because I'm just as interested as anyone.

[Nihilanth]

Reca|| to He|| has been mentioned here (http://www.doom3world.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=21277) by ZizZ^:

The mod i did those canceled enviroments for is Recall To Hell. A very promising mod by team Grid Lock being developed for several years now. Sadly enough the team has been having difficulties finishing the damn thing. Now it isnt very much a level problem, there's tons of great done level content. It's more the things that make them fun to play like gameplay mechanics, items, weapons, monsters (AI) etc... Alot of wich we have but, also alot unfinished. We realized we where to ambitious and decided to divide the mod into episodes. Now i'm sure those episodes will be released sooner or later. The mod is not dead! But it IS idling atm. I'm sure once the whole team can pick up that good old motivation again things will get out eventually. there's so much been done that may and shall not be wasted!

If you still are awaiting good old recall to hell. you can drop a support line in the forums

http://recalltohell.d3files.com/phpbb/

[Damien_Azreal]

Nice to finally get some info on what's going on with it. But still, sad. :(

It sounded like a hugely ambitious mod from the start, but given the renders and screenshots they showed it looked like they were on the right path.

Here's hoping they can find the push to get through the problems and finish it.

[Sayantan]

The mod is not dead! But it IS idling atm. I'm sure once the whole team can pick up that good old motivation again things will get out eventually.

That's Pretty much it. I'm not too active anymore because 3drealms forum is blocked in my office.

Now let's look at my condition. After completing a so-so game I'm working on currently, I'm going back home leaving the company, as it's hopeless to work on a 2D game being a 3D artist for a year and then expect good games from that company furthur on. Mis-management sucks. I'll be going back home to develop my portfolio furthur on. Contributing more for RTH would be a nice way to do so. But the effort to get it done also has to come from the other part of the world you see. Let's see where it goes. :)

Moreover Real GameDev Job > Modding ..... which nobody can deny. ;)

[Reaper]

That's Pretty much it. I'm not too active anymore because 3drealms forum is blocked in my office.

Now let's look at my condition. After completing a so-so game I'm working on currently, I'm going back home leaving the company, as it's hopeless to work on a 2D game being a 3D artist for a year and then expect good games from that company furthur on. Mis-management sucks. I'll be going back home to develop my portfolio furthur on. Contributing more for RTH would be a nice way to do so. But the effort to get it done also has to come from the other part of the world you see. Let's see where it goes. :)

Moreover Real GameDev Job > Modding ..... which nobody can deny. ;)
Good to hear you're still at it man. Just hope you find that "Real GameDev Job" pie in the sky. ;)

[Fjallraven]

Could this be the... DNF of MODs? ;)

I think the trenches 1.1 has that record.

[Hudson]

The sad part is before the release of D3 all I could hear was about the impending explosion of Doom 3 mods that rivals the one from the original scene.

:(

[Sayantan]

Let's admit the following:-

- Gamedev in 2008 needs quite much more manpower(IMO thrice) than that was needed 3/4 years back.
- We all who works in the industry have to work really hard to get our daily bread and pay for our rent. The last time I finished playing a game completely was (I forgot which game) before I got the job.

Now at this kind of a stage obviously we have to losen up our effort towards any mod/TC we were going through previously. Real Life Sucks. Trust me guys, anyday we'd love to finish the project ASAP. But it's just that the situation also has to be like that. :(

[Mountain Man]

The sad part is before the release of D3 all I could hear was about the impending explosion of Doom 3 mods that rivals the one from the original scene.

:(
I think it takes a lot more resources and know-how to mod a modern, state of the art game. I don't know if we'll ever again see a modding community like the "good ol' days".

[Sayantan]

sure. http://recalltohell.d3files.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2030&sid=10402c10e74f981bc926f53b4bbd2a26&start=0

I'll copy his post here too for you guys:

OMG I never noticed that before.

/faints in sheer excitement. :insomnia:

[Kev_Boy]

I think it takes a lot more resources and know-how to mod a modern, state of the art game. I don't know if we'll ever again see a modding community like the "good ol' days".

Absolutely. However, for the lack of quantity compared to back then there is of course much greater quality :)

[Nihilanth]

I don't mind it taking longer before it's ready. It's not like a mod is gonna become outdated or something.

[Sayantan]

As many of you might know the forum (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/) has been HACKED for a long time now. Yesterday, I had a brief talk with Yatta, and he somehow dug up my curiosity to get at least something out of the whole thing OUT.

Hence today I, along with Zizz (who has almost left mapping and a pro dancer now) started digging a lot about how to trick the stupid hacked thing. After tinkering with for quite some time, I discovered something. The idiot hacker only altered the main index page. All the internal forum data is still there intact. So I did some more digging with long lost links (and lots of URL altering trials) and concluded with the forum links. You can view the sections now as follows:-

News Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=2&sid=)
Jobs Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=3&sid=)
General Discussion Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=4&sid=)
Suggestion Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=5&sid=)
Off-Topic Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=6&sid=)
Contests Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=9&sid=)
INTERN Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=10&sid)
Mapping | Level Design Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=11&sid=)
General Management | Coordination Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=12&sid=)
Modeling | Texturing Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=13&sid=)
Tweaks | Graphical Improvements Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=14&sid=)
Sound Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=15&sid=)
General Support Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=17&sid=)
Story Section (http://recalltohell.d3files.com/wbb2/board.php?boardid=18&sid=)

No idea what I'm trying to do with this. But well, whatever ..... :insomnia:

[ZuljinRaynor]

Well, that sucks. Why did someone want to hack you? :/

[Sayantan]

That's what everybody wonders. Why the hell would somebody want to hack RTH forum and disturb the workflow? :insomnia:

[Steve]

That's what everybody wonders. Why the hell would somebody want to hack RTH forum and disturb the workflow? :insomnia:
That's why :o

Bastards :mad:

[Nihilanth]

That's why :o

Bastards :mad:

Agreed. :mad:

By the way, how's the work on the mod going?

[ZuljinRaynor]

I don't know why anyone would want to disturb the workflow unless somehow you pissed them off. :confused: Best of luck though, looks great.

[Micki!]

Freaking hackers, but glad it the place isn't lost... :cool:

[Hyperactive Slob]

Hey Sayantan Wasn't there some guy that used to be in the mod team that was a bit rude and racist towards you maybe he did it?

[Kristian Joensen]

Nice to see that you where able to recover at least SOMETHING. To bad with that hacker attack that really sucks.

[Sayantan]

Data we got, but I doubt if we can get the confidence among the team members yet again.

[Kalki]

A lot of people would be sorry to hear that.

[Yatta]

I'm so glad you were able to get some use out of the forum, and that I was actually a motivation towards that. :D

Please, please, please, get the team to release what they have so far. We'd enjoy it no matter what, especially because it's better than nothing. :)

[Sayantan]

Don't know man. Can't even get the other team members. Everybody just disappeared suddenly. :(

Anyways, guess I'll continue with my Zombie mod.

[Sayantan]

A part of a Conversation I had today:-

damn
maybe seclude each maps and release

If I even would have the time to setup my old rig and sort the stuff ... but I'm too busy and RTH is a closed chapter for me.
I might sound weird in that case but I stopped to care about it. There are more important things to do for me which affect the future more than this

So there you have it. Elusive was our Lead Mapper. Nobody even has the enthusiasm nor interest to continue the project. Since there's no money involved, enthusiasm itself was the main driving force.

Add to that 2 years passed just like that. We've become more mature to look for a living rather than complete this mod. :doh:

[Yatta]

So he's even too busy to release what has been completed so far? Man, that stinks. :(

[Damien_Azreal]

Damn. :(

I would love to at least have what was done so far released. The mod looked brilliant.

[Kev_Boy]

It's unfortunate to read, I can say even the screenshots that have been released have already given me joy,
so it wasn't for nothing nothing.

Best of luck to everyone who was involved.

[hanged_man]

shame we can't get any of it :( what if you had some sort of donation using paypal !!! some fans might be willing to support you and that might interest the team again

[Nihilanth]

Oh man. :(

[Malgon]

That's sad. :(

[Zizz]

I'm currectly talking with some "teammembers" about the situation. Since i am still an active doom3 mapper im willing to take the rth levels and make something playable out of it. That is after i finish my personal projects. Theres also a ton of custom sounds, textures, models etc...Not sure how this will turn out but in the future something will somehow get released.

Me, satan and also Ivan the B and perhaps other d3w members will discuss this further.

It'll be nothing like the original RTH plan, and much much more discrete but it should be fun anyway. At least it wont be all wasted!

[peoplessi]

Sounds cool.

[hanged_man]

it's good to see you back Zizz :) we're all looking forward to play your mod even if it was not completed

[Yatta]

It's been four years since I started this thread and still nothing.

I tried to convince the leader of the project to release the files numerous times over ICQ but he seems reluctant.

Recall to Hell has gone to hell and it's never coming back.

[Mr_Diffrence]

So there you have it. Elusive was our Lead Mapper. Nobody even has the enthusiasm nor interest to continue the project. Since there's no money involved, enthusiasm itself was the main driving force.

That's really too bad, this is why mod teams should release regularly. As the community rallying behind the project encourages those working on it to continue.

I hope that what is completed with the project will be salvaged, pulled together and released.

[Damien_Azreal]

Well, the project is dead... seems like it is time to move on and drop all hopes of playing it. :(

[Sayantan]

Check the last few pages of this thread guys (http://www.doom3world.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=18072).

As for me I'm busy with a Crysis map with somebody.

[Drazula]

Looks like it may be resurrected! :)

[Sayantan]

Not completely, but at least something out of it.