Official F.E.A.R. Discussion thread.

[Orochi Avlis]

Drazula said:

Damien_Azreal said:
Yeah, you take out shadows you lose a lot of the atmosphere. The game has almost a completely different feeling with shadows on.


You said it. My heart sank when I unwittingly played it through on low setting. Now that I know it was not the real game, I can say it sucked on low. Seemed like a completely different game from the beta.


You can say the same about any game.
Doom 3 loses alot of atmosphere without the shadowing, bump mapping, etc etc.

Remeber, I'm not bashing Doom 3, I'm just using it as an example.

[Damien_Azreal]

Well, hopefully I'll be able to get into this beta. It would just seem wierd to be in the other two and not this one.

Oh well, either I'm in it or not. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[avatar_58]

I'm still wondering when ebgames will learn of the dvd version so I can switch my order..... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Nessus]

I liked the combat, fighting was actually fun, something too many FPS's fail to capture. I wish they would have just used the Doom3 engine though, it ran way better for me.

[avatar_58]

Nessus said:
I liked the combat, fighting was actually fun, something too many FPS's fail to capture. I wish they would have just used the Doom3 engine though, it ran way better for me.



I like games that use their own engines....games that have their own unique "feel" as opposed to sharing with another game (which sometimes happens when they share engines)

[Mountain Man]

DiscoDave said:
the 'intro' with the other team members could not be more stilted. HL2 really showed what was possible with facial emotions, and FEAR doesn't have it in the slightest.


Yeah, Half-Life 2 really spoiled me in this regard. It's most obvious when the guys says, "You will be a god among men." It just looks so...retro.

[Mountain Man]

Nessus said:
I wish they would have just used the Doom3 engine though, it ran way better for me.


FEAR is still being optimized.

[Cerberus_e]

Drazula said:

Damien_Azreal said:
Yeah, you take out shadows you lose a lot of the atmosphere. The game has almost a completely different feeling with shadows on.


You said it. My heart sank when I unwittingly played it through on low setting. Now that I know it was not the real game, I can say it sucked on low. Seemed like a completely different game from the beta.



since when are graphics more important than gameplay? I played on low, and liked it.

[dark_angel]

^^^

Wait till you play it on Max details, you will be blown away http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Cerberus_e]

dark_angel said:
^^^

Wait till you play it on Max details, you will be blown away http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



sure, but why does FEAR suck on low quality?
you huys are saying that fear has no good gameplay

[Tang Lung]

Graphics ARE important, they add to how the game feels and the atmosphere. A game like Silent Hill wouldnt be half as scary if it wasnt for the visual ambience and atmosphere.

The point is, they put the emphasis on shadow and lighting for a reason, not only that but good graphics add alot more immersivness to today's games. I'd rather play a game the way the developers intended it to be played, in this case, with great atmosphere that can only be brought by the great graphics.

[MeatWagon]

Love the demo. I just tried it with soft shadows turned on and it looks pretty good, didnt really hurt my performance much. Although some of the soft shadow edges (Mainly your characters) had a sort or banded look instead of a smooth blur, but on other lights it works a treat.

[Drazula]

Orochi Avlis said:
You can say the same about any game.
Doom 3 loses alot of atmosphere without the shadowing, bump mapping, etc etc.

Remeber, I'm not bashing Doom 3, I'm just using it as an example.


Sure, but Doom 3 doesn't default to no shadows on any setting. FEAR defaulted to shuting them off when I started the game. It should have given me some kind of warning like: "Game experience changes dramatically!"


Cerberus_e said:
since when are graphics more important than gameplay? I played on low, and liked it.


It was a good experience for me to unwittingly play on low the first time through. It showed me very clearly how a game is impacted by lighting. You don't get that same experience after you've play it with shadows on, and then shut them off. You already know what to expect. It was just another variation.

And you don't feel the disappointment thinking that is the way the game really is.

[Orochi Avlis]

Oh please Draz, don't tell me you didn't get a bit suspicious about the settings when it said "Auto-detecting system for optimal performance"?

Mine keep the shadowing on by deafault, and I went back and made some minor alterations.

So maybe you should blame your rig before blaming the software. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerberus_e said:

Drazula said:

Damien_Azreal said:
Yeah, you take out shadows you lose a lot of the atmosphere. The game has almost a completely different feeling with shadows on.


You said it. My heart sank when I unwittingly played it through on low setting. Now that I know it was not the real game, I can say it sucked on low. Seemed like a completely different game from the beta.



since when are graphics more important than gameplay? I played on low, and liked it.



Graphics are not more impportant, but the graphics add to the gameplay in this game. As opposed to a lot of games the graphics don't add to the game other than to make it pretty.

FEAR's graphics add to the gameplay and impact the way you play. I tried playing it without shadows and some other things turned down last night... compeletly different game IMO.
FEAR's atmosphere is it's biggest strong point, and the atmosphere just about vanishes without certain graphical features.

Developers are gonna start building gameplay around certain graphic features... so this isn't a bad thing. It's just a step in the right direction.

[Cerberus_e]

why would you play different with low quality shadows?
I played doom 3: resurrection of evil without shadows and I was immediately sucked into the atmosphere.

[Damien_Azreal]

Well, I didn't play it differently it jus tfelt different.

I've noticed a few times that the enemy AI saw me beofre I rounded a corner, and noticed they saw my shadow projected on the wall. Without shadows you don't have to watch for that.

Doom 3's shadows are great, but they don't impact the gamepaly the same way FEAR's do. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[dark_angel]

Graphics dictate what type of gameplay that could be implemented in a game.

This was one of the main reasons why 3DR have switched engines many times.

[Cerberus_e]

well, if I have a new graphics card, maybe I'll give you guys right http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerberus_e said:
well, if I have a new graphics card, maybe I'll give you guys right http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Have I ever steared you in a wrong direction Cerb? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Trust me, when you get your new graphics card... playing FEAR will almost be a new experiance. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

EDIT:

Okay, I finished the demo again ( http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ) and still love every bit of it. But I notcied at the FEAR forums people are bitching about the ladder thing, the way you get up and down the ladders.
I for one love it, IMO finally a developer did it right. You can't climb a ladder without putting your guns away and without grabbing a hold of it. I love the full body awareness in FEAR.

But, jus tfor the hell of it... who here has a problem with the ladder system, and who here loves it as is. I for one.. love it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Drazula]

Cerberus_e said:
why would you play different with low quality shadows?
I played doom 3: resurrection of evil without shadows and I was immediately sucked into the atmosphere.


http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif The shadows beg stealth: hide, maneuver, explore. With shadows off, I feel exposed... more run and gun. I didn't realize how different I play until my video setting mistake.

[avatar_58]

I do too damien. I hated hl2's ladder system with a passion. I always fall down in games and never know how to properly mount it when climbing back down. FEAR has finally put an end to guessing and makes a use button. It has my vote http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

It was one of the first things i went http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif about. My girl friend say it and said... "Look, someone did it right." I just smiled.

I love it, makes the game seem more realistic. I like that some games make you gut your gun away, but it still doesn't feel right.

I love the full body awareness. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[avatar_58]

Damien_Azreal said:
I love the full body awareness. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



So do I. I love how when you look around you aren't just rotating a view or something...your body moves and your head+view accordingly. It makes it feel more realistic.

[asbestos]

Aight, I REALLY like this demo. Wow, I think this is going to be an awesome game, I can't wait.

Things I really enjoy-

- Graphics are of course great
- Music/general amtosphere is spot-on creepy and tense
- Combat is great fun. I really like the balance between action and realism, and generally feel very cautious as I go through. I think it helps to move slowly through this game and take cover where you can, as opposed to just running and gunning. Very refreshing!
- Ladders kick ass

Overall the gameplay/feel is just so nice. I feel like I can enter a battle time after time and always go about it in a different manner. The combat just feels so tense and visceral. I'll definitely be picking this one up when it comes out.

In regards to playing this without shadows- I haven't played it without shadows, but I can't imagine it having the same feel without them...

[DiscoDave]

I like the idea of full body awareness, particularly with the casting of your own shadows - very immersive. I also like the idea of climbing on and off of a ladder. But what I don't like is that you can't control the speed of climbing on/off of the ladder (can't peek over the edge), and that you can't see down to the bottom where you are going. Also, in real life it's not impossible to fire a handgun while on a ladder, or to at least swing around to look behind you (away from the ladder).

Basically, I don't like the FEAR ladder system. It's true that the standard FPS ladders have their problems, but I think that your ability to look all around while on them, and fire weapons is more 'realistic' within the typical gameworlds.

[Drazula]

Count me as half a vote on the ladder system. I like the "use" part, but I hate the view. Seems like they did to blind-side the player.

And yeah, HL2's sucked.

[Cerberus_e]

I think the ladder system is far from perfect.

why good:
- you can go down a ladder without risking falling off
- you don't fall off when you turn more than 90 degrees.

why not good:
- you also have to use the ladder when you are on the bottom.

I think the ladder system sucks in medal of honor, return to castle wolfenstein, and most other quake 3 shooters because you fall off when you turn around, I HATE that.
it was fixed in doom 3, so doom 3 has good ladders.
HL2 also has good ladders: you don't fall off when turning around, and unlike avatar said: you DON'T fall of when at the top, you just have to use it.

[Travis]

I hate when I try to get to the top of the ladder in a game, but it doesn't let me get to the surface, even though I'm right in the middle of the ladder, so I have to keep going down and repositioning and going back up until it lets me fit through, even though there are huge gaps on either side of me.

If that makes sense...?
Haven't played FEAR yet though, can't until September (when I get my new video card http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif).

[seregrail7]

Drazula said:
Count me as half a vote on the ladder system. I like the "use" part, but I hate the view. Seems like they did to blind-side the player.

And yeah, HL2's sucked.


Ditto.

[Mountain Man]

avatar_58 said:
I hated hl2's ladder system with a passion. I always fall down in games and never know how to properly mount it when climbing back down.


Eh? It's simplicity itself even if it's not terribly intuitive. To climb down a ladder in Half-Life 2, simply walk towards the ladder. I know, it's a bit naff to go down a ladder by facing forward, but I never had trouble navigating a single ladder in Half-Life or Half-Life 2.

[seregrail7]

There were 1 or 2 times where I fell off them, but I found myself getting stuck to them alot.

[asbestos]

I personally like the lack of movement when on ladders. Makes you feel exposed/vulnerable, which I think really sits well in the atmosphere of the game.

[FireFly]

I thought Far Cry's ladder system was horrible because you weren't locked to the ladder so you could just walk off. I did this after 20 minutes of gameplay (without an autosave) and died.

[Drazula]

FireFly said:
I did this after 20 minutes of gameplay (without an autosave) and died.


20 minutes?! How friggin slow do you climb? 5 minutes in any direction gets you saved.

[FireFly]

My save spots average out at 10 - 15 minutes apart, but this one was longer. Also, because you're here I'll mention the fact that the first time after completing the Carrier 'challenge' I killed myself by jumping onto the boat from the top of the carrier.

[Cerberus_e]

FireFly said:
I thought Far Cry's ladder system was horrible because you weren't locked to the ladder so you could just walk off. I did this after 20 minutes of gameplay (without an autosave) and died.



far cry's ladder adresses travis' problem then http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[asbestos]

Has anyone else managed to BLOW UP an enemy with a headshot? The first guy you come across, I took out from around the corner before he spotted me. One little headshot from the pistol, and BOOM- dude's whole body exploded into a bloody mess. Not sure if that's supposed to happen or not...

[Damien_Azreal]

asbestos said:
Has anyone else managed to BLOW UP an enemy with a headshot? The first guy you come across, I took out from around the corner before he spotted me. One little headshot from the pistol, and BOOM- dude's whole body exploded into a bloody mess. Not sure if that's supposed to happen or not...



Yep, happened here as well. Threw me off at first... but I'm just glad companies are bringing back gibs. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I think this will be balanced better in the final release.

[asbestos]

Damien_Azreal said:
Yep, happened here as well. Threw me off at first... but I'm just glad companies are bringing back gibs. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif




True!

[Mountain Man]

FireFly said:
My save spots average out at 10 - 15 minutes apart, but this one was longer.


Yes, that was one thing that frustrated me greatly about Far Cry. If you headed directly towards your mission goals then the checkpoint saves weren't as much of a problem. If, however, you took your time to explore the levels that just begged to be explored, you could easily go 20 minutes or longer between checkpoints. So you ended up with the uncomforable paradox of large, open levels that invited exploration combined with a checkpoint save system that discouraged exploration.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/brickwall.gif

[asbestos]

I never got to check out the multiplayer beta. How does this demo compare to it? After playing this, I would think that the multiplayer would be pretty sweet, assuming it has the same slower-paced, movement/combat feel as the demo. I can imagine some nice firefights where the players really use the environment strategically.

[Cerberus_e]

Mountain Man said:

FireFly said:
My save spots average out at 10 - 15 minutes apart, but this one was longer.


Yes, that was one thing that frustrated me greatly about Far Cry. If you headed directly towards your mission goals then the checkpoint saves weren't as much of a problem. If, however, you took your time to explore the levels that just begged to be explored, you could easily go 20 minutes or longer between checkpoints. So you ended up with the uncomforable paradox of large, open levels that invited exploration combined with a checkpoint save system that discouraged exploration.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/brickwall.gif



well, what about going to your checkpoint first, then return to explore, and if you are done, reload the game, or return if you like?

[Orochi Avlis]

asbestos said:
Has anyone else managed to BLOW UP an enemy with a headshot? The first guy you come across, I took out from around the corner before he spotted me. One little headshot from the pistol, and BOOM- dude's whole body exploded into a bloody mess. Not sure if that's supposed to happen or not...


They're clones. Maybe something inside them becomes unstable.

[avatar_58]

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/20050812.jpg

[ADM]

Haha classic!

They really should have conversations like that in the game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Mayur]

I just finished downloading, runs like shit with max poss details@1024x768 on my gfx card and mem [radeon 9800se 128mb and 768 mb of sys memory] but I have underclocked it 'cause my psu does'nt support that kinda load........runs playable in 640 and 800 though....

About the game.....

Call me a sissy a ***** whatever but.........

Is there anything jumpy when I go down the ladders at the start of the demo? It's freaking me out........

man, I hate horror games, I just want to kick ass without a scary li'l girl giving me 'boos' through the game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

-M

[Damien_Azreal]

The ladders at the beginning of the demo are safe. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif But after that... your on your own.

[Mayur]

Thanx, now I am gonna continue playing it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

-M

[Cerberus_e]

Mayur said:
Thanx, now I am gonna continue playing it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

-M



so you are saying you didn't play the demo because you didn't dare to go down the ladder?

[Komb.at]

Finally downloaded the SP demo. Even though it's a little dark for my taste and in*******credible short, i like it a lot. Gun sounds and general shootouts are amazing.

and it's kinda creepy in a "way better than D3" kind of way

How's the MP demo compared to this? Does MP resemble the same effect firework that SP shootouts are?

[Mayur]

Yeah, I get jittery enough without them cheats in horror games http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

|Cain|

[dreweth]

I finally fixed my computer, and was able to play the Fear demo the way it was meant to be played.

I'm so dissapointed that Monolith's new game is a horror spook game.

Not because it won't be great, because it will. It's because I simply cannot handle them. All the little jittery tricks, spooky music, dark lighting, random scariness...it all works on me.

I will never make it through.

Damn you monolith!

This will be the first monolith game since AVP that I'm not buying.

[Cerberus_e]

I can not believe so much people are afraid of a computer game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
I wish games would be able to scare me... doom 3 did to some extend, but FEAR not.

[Roger]

Komb.at said:
How's the MP demo compared to this? Does MP resemble the same effect firework that SP shootouts are?



The multiplayer beta is great. Really fast-paced, the decals and particles really add to the warzone feel, but some of the weapons are imbalanced in multiplayer (VK-12 and ASP come to mind http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif). The grenades really feel like they make up half of the battle. I've never seen a game involve the grenades so much. The smoke they make is good for trying to cover your tracks or confuse targets. The melee attacks also are snazzy, though I wish they weren't always instant kill.

[dreweth]

Cerberus_e said:
I can not believe so much people are afraid of a computer game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



I let myself get into the atmosphere. I have headphones that totally immerse me in the game world's sound (which monolith has always been awesome at, their sounds are top notch), and things that happen in the game world make me feel a certain way.

I'm not just "playing" a "game" on a couch; I'm immersing myself in a new world, and things that happen in that world are profound. Good things are more exciting, scary things are blood pumping.

I can't see how anyone else thinks they are getting their money's worth.

...

Oh, and anyone who acts like the things they do in these top notch horror games are NOT scary as hell, are either some jaded mother******s, or ACT like they are.

You don't have to be "hard." You don't have to act like it didn't make you jump, make you blood pump, make you nervous to come out from cover.

If you aren't acting, then once again, you're missing out. The emotional experience that can come from good games is just as good, if not better, than movies of the same type. You aren't watching, you are living in that world for a short time.

[Damien_Azreal]

I agree with Drewerth.

I'm not totally scared of playing the game. I've been through the demo countless times, plus my DVD copy of the game (haha - avatar_58 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ) is on order.

But I get very into the game world, I find myself leaning in my chair as I lean around a corner in the game. Pushing back in my chair as I enter a big firefight. I find shooters very immersive... and Monolith's are amoung the best.

[Komb.at]

Cool ... what part does cover play? Is it usefull? Or do people charge directly gunblazing?

[Damien_Azreal]

Komb.at said:
Cool ... what part does cover play? Is it usefull? Or do people charge directly gunblazing?



You have to use cover. Otherwise your dead in seconds. Your character sometimes feel svery weak and vunerable in multiplayer.
So you need to lean around corners, hide behind boxes and desks. Otherwise... you won't last. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Cerberus_e]

dreweth said:

Cerberus_e said:
I can not believe so much people are afraid of a computer game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



I let myself get into the atmosphere. I have headphones that totally immerse me in the game world's sound (which monolith has always been awesome at, their sounds are top notch), and things that happen in the game world make me feel a certain way.

I'm not just "playing" a "game" on a couch; I'm immersing myself in a new world, and things that happen in that world are profound. Good things are more exciting, scary things are blood pumping.

I can't see how anyone else thinks they are getting their money's worth.

...

Oh, and anyone who acts like the things they do in these top notch horror games are NOT scary as hell, are either some jaded mother******s, or ACT like they are.

You don't have to be "hard." You don't have to act like it didn't make you jump, make you blood pump, make you nervous to come out from cover.

If you aren't acting, then once again, you're missing out. The emotional experience that can come from good games is just as good, if not better, than movies of the same type. You aren't watching, you are living in that world for a short time.



I disagree, and I'm NOT acting.
I get easily immersed in the atmosphere of a game, that's why I still enjoy older games, like quake.
it's just that all scary stuff in FEAR is too predictable

[dreweth]

Then you're a jaded MF'er. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Cerberus_e]

dreweth said:
Then you're a jaded MF'er. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



or you are a wuss http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Mayur]

ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's starting - Doom3 vs F.E.A.R http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

-M

[dreweth]

Cerberus_e said:

dreweth said:
Then you're a jaded MF'er. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



or you are a wuss http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



There you go being a jaded MF'er again!

[Jokke_r]

how can anyone claim that fear is more predictable than doom3 i mean c'mon, thats pushing it too far. In Doom3 if you see some equipment in a corner you know that when you pick it up some demons will come into the room. Thats so ***** predictable. When you played the demo for the first time you couldn't have predicted the spook scenes and claiming you did is just lying. Besides you have played so little of fear by now that it's impossible the judge it yet.

[Roger]

Komb.at said:
Cool ... what part does cover play? Is it usefull? Or do people charge directly gunblazing?



Yeah, you'll get killed quick without good cover, often even with.

[Cerberus_e]

Jokke_r said:
how can anyone claim that fear is more predictable than doom3 i mean c'mon, thats pushing it too far. In Doom3 if you see some equipment in a corner you know that when you pick it up some demons will come into the room. Thats so ***** predictable. When you played the demo for the first time you couldn't have predicted the spook scenes and claiming you did is just lying. Besides you have played so little of fear by now that it's impossible the judge it yet.



you do NOT know what's in my head.
yes, FEAR was more predictable than doom 3.
I predicted each and every spook scene

[FireFly]

How did you predict the ladder scene?

[Cerberus_e]

FireFly said:
How did you predict the ladder scene?



I don't see that as a "spook" moment, but as a "jump" moment.
I predicted it because it was in the E3 2005 movie http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
but if I didn't see it, I wouldn't have predicted it.
again, I see it as a jumping moment, not as a spook moment http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[FireFly]

Where are the "spook" moments in Doom 3?

[Roger]

Can we not do this crap?

[Cerberus_e]

FireFly said:
Where are the "spook" moments in Doom 3?



pretty much in every level


Roger said:
Can we not do this crap?



I agree, but jokke asked for it, by disrespecting my opinion

[FireFly]

I'm just curious what he meant. I mean are we talking about enemies spawning, or those hallucinations that occurred from time to time?

[Beelze]

FireFly said:
How did you predict the ladder scene?


I predicted the ladder scene because you typically feel vulnerable when on ladders in games. Before I got to that spook/boo, I had already gotten a feel of the ladders and a preview of the girl. It felt natural that they would try it sooner or later, so I was prepared.

As for some being more easily scared, well, some people are just more empathetic and can attach themselves to fictional worlds more easily than others. Or you could resort to calling them wusses, for simplicity's sake.

[Cerberus_e]

FireFly said:
I'm just curious what he meant. I mean are we talking about enemies spawning, or those hallucinations that occurred from time to time?



are they ahllucinations?
I thought the girl is REALLY there, to spook you.

[FireFly]

I mean in Doom 3.

[Cerberus_e]

there is more spooky stuff in doom 3 than those hallucinations

[Drazula]

Here we go.... the HL2 fans will try to claim FEAR is spookier than Doom 3 to mask the fact that FEAR is a better game than HL2.

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[maximan]

Drazula said:
Here we go.... the HL2 fans will try to claim FEAR is spookier than Doom 3 to mask the fact that FEAR is a better game than HL2.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


Thank you for bringing HL2 into this as well http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Beelze]

Drazula said:
Here we go.... the HL2 fans will try to claim FEAR is spookier than Doom 3 to mask the fact that FEAR is a better game than HL2.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


Judging by the demo, Doom 3 is scarier and I like Half-Life 2 better. Good thing you didn't use the word "fanboys," though. You're getting better.

[avatar_58]

Would you people all shut the hell up and get back to discussing FEAR and FEAR alone..

[Roger]

Thank you for being blunt where I was too afraid to be. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Mister_Lynyrd]

Still having fun with the AI... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

In the first combat room where the guy inside the booth likes to bail thru the window, I kept sliding to the door to see him thru the glass... so he jumps back thru the window into the room. Go to the window, and out he comes tumbling again.... He will do this as long as you want to keep it up lol http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm really loving how the guys take cover and sometimes wait you out... except for the beginning scenario and placement of enemies, no two battles are the same. At the final battle area (where the helicopter appears) it's fun to watch their tactics from the windows above or the door below. I was watching the dude on the catwalk taking cover behind the crates when I saw his arm tossing a grenade at me... after I evaded and went back to the door to see what he'd do next... he wasn't where I left him. He was on the ground to the left and shooting at me from behind the basin/tank thing there.

Good stuff. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Roger]

One time, one of them was standing on the other side of the crates, so I jumped on the crates and slide-kicked him and he went over the railing and flew about 20 feet. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Beelze]

avatar_58 said:
Would you people all shut the hell up and get back to discussing FEAR and FEAR alone..


I want to compare it to other games and you can't stop me. Nyaha. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Roger]

There are people who could. Oh, how I envy them...

[Mongorian]

dreweth said:

Cerberus_e said:
I can not believe so much people are afraid of a computer game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



I let myself get into the atmosphere. I have headphones that totally immerse me in the game world's sound (which monolith has always been awesome at, their sounds are top notch), and things that happen in the game world make me feel a certain way.

I'm not just "playing" a "game" on a couch; I'm immersing myself in a new world, and things that happen in that world are profound. Good things are more exciting, scary things are blood pumping.

I can't see how anyone else thinks they are getting their money's worth.

...

Oh, and anyone who acts like the things they do in these top notch horror games are NOT scary as hell, are either some jaded mother******s, or ACT like they are.

You don't have to be "hard." You don't have to act like it didn't make you jump, make you blood pump, make you nervous to come out from cover.

If you aren't acting, then once again, you're missing out. The emotional experience that can come from good games is just as good, if not better, than movies of the same type. You aren't watching, you are living in that world for a short time.



I get scared quite easily http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif and thus rarely finish a scary game.

[Orochi Avlis]

I notice that, when they retreat at times, they look back and continue to fire their weapon with one arm.

[avatar_58]

Preview of the first 4 levels (May be spoilers)
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/fear/preview_6130811.html

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[seregrail7]

Just read it sounds great.

[Beelze]

Roger said:
There are people who could.


But they wouldn't. Comparison itself is not forbidden. Too bad that some use it in order to try to agitate people. However, this talk about how we for some reason shouldn't be allowed to compare is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, and ends here.

[Cerberus_e]

I won't read the preview of the first 4 levels, because I don't want spoilers.
I only want to know one thing: what about E3 2004?

[seregrail7]

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> That's not the start of the game, however it seems like there will be parts of the game where you are dropped off at the level. So maybe it's still in the game at a later time. </td></tr></table>

[laffer]

If there is one aspect of the game that does not impress me that much, it's the graphics. I tried it with the shadows on even, but still I think the graphics are highly average. I even tried it on max detail, and I still didn't think it looked THAT awesome http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
But I don't really care much about graphics and I think this will be a killer game!

[Raidomarek]

great demo, HL2 and DOOM 3 are past !!!!!!!!!!!!!



F.E.A.R came and won, Doom 3 graph. and feeling are nothing compared with fear...

[kylemf88]

FireFly said:
Where are the "spook" moments in Doom 3?



Well seeing body parts everywhere would be one. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Yeah fear only had one for two cheap scares in the demo. Doom 3 is a horror game. I picture fear as a action game.


Here we go.... the HL2 fans will try to claim FEAR is spookier than Doom 3 to mask the fact that FEAR is a better game than HL2.




lol Silly draz, you think that its the hl2 fans trying to bring down on doom3. But truth is your the one that brought up hl2. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Roger]

Beelze said:

Roger said:
There are people who could.


But they wouldn't. Comparison itself is not forbidden. Too bad that some use it in order to try to agitate people. However, this talk about how we for some reason shouldn't be allowed to compare is irrelevant to the discussion at hand, and ends here.



The comparison itself isn't what would get posts deleted; rather, it's the derailment that occurs as a result that causes deletions.

[Damien_Azreal]

I just had a scare with the FEAR demo. I thought something was seriously wrong with my pc. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I loaded up the demo and started playing, not touching a single graphic setting. And the last time I played at these settings I got 40 fps and up.

But this time it was like a slideshow. Jumpy and lagging like hell. I couldn't figure it out. And I was freaking out.

So I exited the game and loaded up TRON 2.0. Then I realized what I did. For TRON 2.0 I set AAx6 to help with the strong black lines in the game. I didn't turn these settings off before I played the FEAR demo. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

So I just tried to play the demo with AAx6. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif I'm an idiot.

[kylemf88]

Wow! Thats probably about as scary as the game is going to get. Or any game for that matter. I get so worried when I think something is wrong with my pc. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

kylemf88 said:
Wow! Thats probably about as scary as the game is going to get. Or any game for that matter. I get so worried when I think something is wrong with my pc. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



Yeah, I'm so glad I simply forgot to turn off AA. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[avatar_58]

You have an ATI card correct? Its odd, doesn't it have profile options for games? With nvidia they allow you to set invidiual settings like AA and AF.

[Dogy]

X360 people are already crying for this to be ported.

http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909102864&topic=22863205&page=0

http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909102864&topic=22862386&page=0

You may laugh now.

[Travis]

Dogy said:
X360 people are already crying for this to be ported.

http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909102864&topic=22863205&page=0

http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/show_messages.php?board=909102864&topic=22862386&page=0

You may laugh now.



*laughs*

[Orochi Avlis]

Screw that.
We PC gamers lose out due to sloppy second console ports (Halo and Deus Ex 2 anyone?).

If we want to play Mario Kart, or MK:D we need to buy a console. Why can't they be bothered to do the same thing?

I'm not against consoles, I'm just fed up on how PC gamers have to endure with scraps. Mind you, there are top notch games that are best played on the PC rather than consoles.

[avatar_58]

Orochi Avlis said:
Screw that.
We PC gamers lose out due to sloppy second console ports (Halo and Deus Ex 2 anyone?).

If we want to play Mario Kart, or MK:D we need to buy a console. Why can't they be bothered to do the same thing?

I'm not against consoles, I'm just fed up on how PC gamers have to endure with scraps. Mind you, there are top notch games that are best played on the PC rather than consoles.



I hear you, there are a few console games that have very crappy ports and they are usually the ones I want. Sometimes though for games like San Andreas the PC version is actually better.

[Dogy]

You know, there's more to gaming then sticking to a PC. Have all the consoles, you won't miss out on anything.

[Orochi Avlis]

avatar_58 said:
Sometimes though for games like San Andreas the PC version is actually better.


That's an exception to the rule, thank God. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[avatar_58]

I've become majorly fed up with consoles thanks to the latest gen (ps2/xbox/gamecube) and was not very happy with my purchases of them. Therefore I opt out of the whole next gen battle and will stick with my PC. Since it also does more than gaming its a better investment for me.

[Orochi Avlis]

Dogy said:
You know, there's more to gaming then sticking to a PC. Have all the consoles, you won't miss out on anything.


Oh yea. Let's buy all the consoles and each port.

[Dogy]

Orochi Avlis said:
and each port.



I meant the original version.

[avatar_58]

Actually I don't know about you guys but the latest console ports have been perfect, if not better, when compared to the console versions. I'm glad I can play all the latest PC games and the console ports that I choose. I'm not the type who has to play every game ever made so it doesn't bother me if I miss exclusives....

[Cerberus_e]

luckily monolith has said the game will be PC exclusive http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif I love it

[Duoae]

avatar_58 said:
Actually I don't know about you guys but the latest console ports have been perfect, if not better, when compared to the console versions. I'm glad I can play all the latest PC games and the console ports that I choose. I'm not the type who has to play every game ever made so it doesn't bother me if I miss exclusives....



*Looks at his PC version of PoP: Warrior Within and shakes his head*

All cross-platform games suffer. Without exception - whether it be graphics on one port (RESI4), shorter time to develop and polish a game, therefore leaving it lacking finish (Halo) and with bugs.

The best ports come months after release of the original product, but not if they are to pc. PC- console ports are cool because you are downgrading from the full content (it's kinda like resizing a jpg)... but going the other way you get "artifacts" etc.

[Cerberus_e]

Duoae said:

avatar_58 said:
Actually I don't know about you guys but the latest console ports have been perfect, if not better, when compared to the console versions. I'm glad I can play all the latest PC games and the console ports that I choose. I'm not the type who has to play every game ever made so it doesn't bother me if I miss exclusives....



*Looks at his PC version of PoP: Warrior Within and shakes his head*

All cross-platform games suffer. Without exception - whether it be graphics on one port (RESI4), shorter time to develop and polish a game, therefore leaving it lacking finish (Halo) and with bugs.

The best ports come months after release of the original product, but not if they are to pc. PC- console ports are cool because you are downgrading from the full content (it's kinda like resizing a jpg)... but going the other way you get "artifacts" etc.



the try pop: sands of time and be amazed how stable it is

[Damien_Azreal]

avatar_58 said:
You have an ATI card correct? Its odd, doesn't it have profile options for games? With nvidia they allow you to set invidiual settings like AA and AF.



I think the new control panel has settings like that. I just upgrade my drivers, I don't upgrade the control panel.

Usually I only use AA if the game has the option in it's menu, but TRON's big thick black lines and bright colors make the edges a bit more noticable.

[Dogy]

Cerberus_e said:
luckily monolith has said the game will be PC exclusive http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif I love it



But they're saying it'll be ported if it does well.

I'd like to see Monolith break their word, if they ever had http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, will be ported if it does well. Who cares at that point? Cause us PC gamers will already have it and won't be the ones waiting for a port.

Besides, the onyl games Lith has ever ported has been NOLF and a crappy version of TRON.

I don't think us PC gamers have to worry, the PC version is first priority... and if they decide to port it later, who cares? We'll be playing it on PC already. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Dogy]

Damien_Azreal said:

I don't think us PC gamers have to worry, the PC version is first priority... and if they decide to port it later, who cares? We'll be playing it on PC already. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



Well, if you have all the consoles along with a PC, you'll be playing your favorite titles, and not miss any underdogs.

You know, I should stop my biasness, and get all 3 consoles again. First one, of course, the 360, which is bound to be my fav. out of the 3 again, like the 'Box is my fav. out of the current 3.

*pets his Phantom Dust case http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif*

[Cerberus_e]

Damien_Azreal said:
Yeah, will be ported if it does well. Who cares at that point? Cause us PC gamers will already have it and won't be the ones waiting for a port.

Besides, the onyl games Lith has ever ported has been NOLF and a crappy version of TRON.

I don't think us PC gamers have to worry, the PC version is first priority... and if they decide to port it later, who cares? We'll be playing it on PC already. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



yes, luckily.
at least FEAR doesn't feel like a console game now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif unlike games like san andreas, ...
I'm holding my heart for prey, though, which is also developed on xbox360 right now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

[Duoae]

Cerberus_e said:

Duoae said:

avatar_58 said:
Actually I don't know about you guys but the latest console ports have been perfect, if not better, when compared to the console versions. I'm glad I can play all the latest PC games and the console ports that I choose. I'm not the type who has to play every game ever made so it doesn't bother me if I miss exclusives....



*Looks at his PC version of PoP: Warrior Within and shakes his head*

All cross-platform games suffer. Without exception - whether it be graphics on one port (RESI4), shorter time to develop and polish a game, therefore leaving it lacking finish (Halo) and with bugs.

The best ports come months after release of the original product, but not if they are to pc. PC- console ports are cool because you are downgrading from the full content (it's kinda like resizing a jpg)... but going the other way you get "artifacts" etc.



the try pop: sands of time and be amazed how stable it is



Er. That doesn't change my point.... That's like saying: Oh, this game has no problems, so it doesn't matter....

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cerberus_e]

it changes your point, you say all games that are simulatenously made and almost simultaneously released on ps, xbox, pc and gc are unstable.

that's not true, because pop: sot is stable, which was developed on all platforms http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Duoae]

Cerberus_e said:
it changes your point, you say all games that are simulatenously made and almost simultaneously released on ps, xbox, pc and gc are unstable.

that's not true, because pop: sot is stable, which was developed on all platforms http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



WTF>?!! I never said that
all games that are simulatenously made and almost simultaneously released on ps, xbox, pc and gc

. The only time i mentioned timeframe was with respect to the usually better ports (and then only really from PC to console).

You need to learn to read properly and not just infer what you think people are saying.

The whole point wasn't just stability, but the constant lack of quality of ports in general whether it be instability, buggy gameplay, poor graphics etc.

PC PoP: SOT was released a whole month after the console versions. Maybe more in some countries. It wasn't released "simultaneously". Very few ported games are.... for the fact that porting games is a nightmare! Hence the reason why many ports are poor - or take longer.

Once again, your mentioning a game which is stable does not affect my point.

[pec]

Played and finished the F.E.A.R. demo on a friend's rig today and I'm VERY impressed!

I don't even know where to start. This game has so many action-packed, creepy and fun elements. Both, gameplay and graphics are awesome! I liked the slomo mode and enemy AI was very good, especially on "Extreme Difficulty" setting.

I'm hooked! Give me more fear... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

I still get creeped out when Alma runs across our path at the beginning in the sewers.

[Roger]

Cerberus_e said:
luckily monolith has said the game will be PC exclusive http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif I love it



Personally I don't care if it's going to be just for PC or shared among PC and consoles. What would irritate me would be if they were porting it from a console to PC, because we all know they have to degrade stuff for the console so that it runs smoothly for just one set of hardware.

[dark_angel]

Video interview with the game's producer Rob Loftus.

- Link (ftp://ftp.futurenet.com/pub/cvg/FEAR_cvg_interview_exclusive.wmv) - Source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=123494) -

[Damien_Azreal]

dark_angel said:
Video interview with the game's producer Rob Loftus.

- Link (ftp://ftp.futurenet.com/pub/cvg/FEAR_cvg_interview_exclusive.wmv) - Source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/news/news_story.php(que)id=123494) -



Kick ass, thanks d_a. I've been collecting all the interviews, movies and screens of FEAR.

Thanks man. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[avatar_58]

Damien_Azreal said:
Kick ass, thanks d_a. I've been collecting all the interviews, movies and screens of FEAR.

Thanks man. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Maybe we need a website to host that stuff http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

avatar_58 said:

Damien_Azreal said:
Kick ass, thanks d_a. I've been collecting all the interviews, movies and screens of FEAR.

Thanks man. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Maybe we need a website to host that stuff http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif



That would make me happy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[dark_angel]

^^^
cool man http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif, it is a very nice interview btw!

[avatar_58]

Don't look at me, I don't own a server http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif The best I could do is hunt down info and post it.

[dark_angel]

VUG Community Manager :


Heads up all we should have a press announcement with several pieces of info out within 48 hours



Source (http://forums.vugames.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1926&tstart=0)

interesting http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[seregrail7]

I'd like to start the speculation with:
FEAR will definately be released next week on Steam for €5!

[Duoae]

seregrail7 said:
I'd like to start the speculation with:
FEAR will definately be released next week on Steam for €5!



Yeah, along with your mum...
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
[/shoolyardhumour]

[Orochi Avlis]

dark_angel said:
VUG Community Manager :


Heads up all we should have a press announcement with several pieces of info out within 48 hours



Source (http://forums.vugames.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1926&tstart=0)

interesting http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


I got an e-mail from them saying I wasn't one of the 1000 winners drawn.

No matter. I pre-ordered. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Gatinater]

I FEAR that after playing the demo FEAR isn't as good as it seemed to be.

[seregrail7]

They sent me 2 letters. They know how to rub it in.

[Damien_Azreal]

I didn't get into the next beta guys, sorry Orochi and avatar. We won't be able to kill each other this time around. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Beelze]

Gatinater said:
I FEAR that after playing the demo FEAR isn't as good as it seemed to be.


I agree. It's not on my list anymore.

[SyntaxN]

I got an email today and thought that it´s just another you´ve a pm mail or so, but no I´m in for the next beta http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
But I won´t play so much more FEAR at all, I want the final as a fresh experience http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

SyntaxN said:
I got an email today and thought that it´s just another you´ve a pm mail or so, but no I´m in for the next beta http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
But I won´t play so much more FEAR at all, I want the final as a fresh experience http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



I've read a ton of people saying this. People win the keys, then say they won't really play cause they don't want to much FEAR before the retail release.

And I couldn't get a key... dammit. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[SyntaxN]

I've read a ton of people saying this. People win the keys, then say they won't really play cause they don't want to much FEAR before the retail release.


That sounds like people who think so....suck http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I never thought I will win with all those competitors anyway http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[avatar_58]

Damien_Azreal said:
I didn't get into the next beta guys, sorry Orochi and avatar. We won't be able to kill each other this time around. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



Damn... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Are you going to pre-order? I think that can still get you in.

[Orochi Avlis]

Anything on the DVD version yet?
I want to change my pre-order.

[avatar_58]

Orochi Avlis said:
Anything on the DVD version yet?
I want to change my pre-order.



So do I but ebgames is still in the dark.

[Damien_Azreal]

avatar_58 said:

Damien_Azreal said:
I didn't get into the next beta guys, sorry Orochi and avatar. We won't be able to kill each other this time around. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



Damn... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Are you going to pre-order? I think that can still get you in.



I'm thinking about pre-ordering the DVD edition. I'll let ya know.

[dark_angel]

I pre-ordered the DVD edition today! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[avatar_58]

dark_angel said:
I pre-ordered the DVD edition today! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif




Damn...where from?

[dark_angel]

^^^
From Virgin Megastore located in lebanon, I am getting

the Director's Edition of F.E.A.R. !

[Damien_Azreal]

dark_angel said:
^^^
From Virgin Megastore located in lebanon, I am getting

the Director's Edition of F.E.A.R. !



So am I d_a, I pre-ordered mine online from EB last night. DVD directors edition, all the kick ass little goodies plus the bonus DVD. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Duoae]

I can't even get the director's cut over here.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[dark_angel]

^^^

Yeah D_A, it is a kick ass package http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

[SyntaxN]

I think I won´t get the special edition, the extra content will be available online really soon and I won´t spend more money than it´s necessary http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[dark_angel]

Well, it is a good practice to spend money on AAA titles http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Oh yeah, just thought I would let you guys know.

I case you were worried about the whol e"internet connection required" thing, it's been confirmed that this is just for multiplayer.

FEAR will not use any online delivery/authentification (sp)system. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And I messed up above, I pre-ordered my DVD copy from Gamestop not EB. Got it five bucks cheaper as well.

Since I ordered it online I don't know if I will get my cd-key or anything.

[avatar_58]

I have to wait considering I already pre-purchased at ebgames. I have no idea when they will get any info.

[SyntaxN]

dark_angel said:
Well, it is a good practice to spend money on AAA titles http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


I think I spent money on AAA titles too often http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
And this one isn´t a game on which I´m hyped like hell, I just think it´s going to be cool...

[Hudson]

Just pre-ordered/pre-paid my "Directors Edition" DVD version today o/

[cladinshadows]

Hudson said:
Just pre-ordered/pre-paid my "Directors Edition" DVD version today o/



Lucky you - I can't wait to purchase that game. The demo was great...but way too short!

[seregrail7]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif still no anouncement.

[avatar_58]

I hate you all. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

I'll get my DVD edition if I have to hunt down the CEO of ebgames.....

[Damien_Azreal]

Hey avatar and Orochi... I pre-rodered the DVD version, and Gamestop said they would send out my code soon.

So I "should" be in the next beta with you guys. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[avatar_58]

Good news, but I still hate you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

avatar_58 said:
Good news, but I still hate you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Ahh... come on avatar, you'll get it straightened out somehow.

[Denz]

THIS IS aRE teH BEST GAME EVAR PEOPLE.

[Duoae]

Hehe, i liked the way you replied to my post.... was that random or intended?

[Denz]

intended http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I like your signature.

[Water12356]

Got back to school so that means I can download the demo! /me goes to 3dgamers and downloads.

Crap everyone else on campus must be on the net now.... 68kb a second.... crap.... oh well 2 hours is better than 4 days back at home.....

[Water12356]

It was fun and creepy. It was also a reminder to buy a new freakin 3d card. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Cerberus_e]

Water12356 said:
Got back to school so that means I can download the demo! /me goes to 3dgamers and downloads.

Crap everyone else on campus must be on the net now.... 68kb a second.... crap.... oh well 2 hours is better than 4 days back at home.....



that 68 kb/sec is because you you download from the bad websites.
next time, go to something fast like gameshack or even better: gamesdomain.

[Damien_Azreal]

I downloaded from 3dgamers.com and had it in about 40 minutes.

It's not the website, It's probably the fact that he is at school were other people are using the connection as well.

[Cerberus_e]

I always have bad speed from that website too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
and I downloaded from gamesdomain and had the demo in 25 minutes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerberus_e said:
I always have bad speed from that website too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
and I downloaded from gamesdomain and had the demo in 25 minutes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Well, compared to what I'm used to (dial up at 28.8k) 40 minutes for over 600MB is pretty damn good.

[Cerberus_e]

yeah, you're probably happy you upgraded http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerberus_e said:
yeah, you're probably happy you upgraded http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Completely f**king thrilled. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Twin]

Denz said:
THIS IS aRE teH BEST GAME EVAR PEOPLE.



amen to that.....best first person shooter i've played since half-life 2.....the demo gave me the same feeling i got when i played the half-life 1 demo http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[December Man]

Denz said:
THIS IS aRE teH BEST GAME EVAR PEOPLE.



We'll see...

[Water12356]

I usted to get great rates from 3D gamers, but not anymore since I heard that they are now owned by gamespy? (Someone prove me wrong..) But no, I did try a few other sites and got the same rates, it was the network trust me. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

But anyway, Fave part was the long room with 3 soliders. Oh god it was so funny hearing them freak out when they went down one by one because of my crazy stealth tactics. "We need backup!" "Where did that come from!?" "F*CK!!" "MAN DOWN!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Kickass FEAR case mod.

Just click it... (http://www.bit-tech.net/modding/2005/06/09/project_fear/12.html)

[avatar_58]

For those interested:


Kalme has released 'Arche Noah', a F.E.A.R. modding tool. It enables you to explore the F.E.A.R. .Arch00 files. You can then extract, insert, and replace files. You should always back up your archives before editing them, and you do this at your risk. 'Arche Noah' is available in the downloads section.



http://www.thisisfear.net/index.php?categoryid=9&p13_sectionid=5&p13_fileid=2

[seregrail7]

Just curious, what ever happened to that anouncement? Did I miss it or something?

[Damien_Azreal]

Next issue of PC Gamer will have the world exclusive first review of FEAR. So... there ya go. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I don't have much faith in their review scores... but I still have my subscription. So, soon we'll get a good first look at FEAR. Can't wait.

[seregrail7]

Hmmmm, my latest PCZ says THEY have the World Exclusive review. Which PCG is saying it? UK or US?

[Cerberus_e]

Damien_Azreal said:
Next issue of PC Gamer will have the world exclusive first review of FEAR. So... there ya go. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I don't have much faith in their review scores... but I still have my subscription. So, soon we'll get a good first look at FEAR. Can't wait.



keep us informed about what they say in the mag http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

seregrail7 said:
Hmmmm, my latest PCZ says THEY have the World Exclusive review. Which PCG is saying it? UK or US?



US.

[avatar_58]

Yes! I changed my preorder to the DVD edition! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Yay for me!

[seregrail7]

Subscriber copies of PCZ will be arriving over the next few days, with the magazine going on sale in shops next Thursday. They have an exclusive review of FEAR too, and have awarded it a score of...
*drum roll*
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> 90%, with repetitive enviroments and gameplay being it's downfall. </td></tr></table>

[Dr. Kill]

dark_angel said:

Mountain Man said:
Is there anything about the gameplay to seperate this one from the pack, or it just "another shooter"?



It is made by Monolith! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Ok, so you mean that Monolith (thinks of Blood http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif ) is making this and Condemned: Criminal Origins? Cool! Will F.E.A.R. make an XBOX 360 appearance?

[Cerberus_e]

so... does someone know....

ok, I'll shut up http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Mountain Man]

seregrail7 said:
...and have awarded it a score of...
*drum roll*
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> 90%, with repetitive enviroments and gameplay being it's downfall. </td></tr></table>


Sounds like Doom 3.

[seregrail7]

Yeah, it's still meant to be good, but most of the levels are office type levels. I played the demo a load, and found the fights to be fun, but I was expecting repetition to be a problem in the finished game. Few games avoid it.
I think repetitive gameplay is something that not everyone will run in to, though. Some people complained aobut it in the dmeo, but I didn't notice it. i think it depends on whether you change tactics to test them out, or use a tried and tested method.

[Mountain Man]

Yeah, well, considering the game takes place in a fairly contemporary office building, you really can't expect the environments to be too varied. I'll probably still get the game because I really enjoyed the demo.

[SyntaxN]

seregrail7 said:
Subscriber copies of PCZ will be arriving over the next few days, with the magazine going on sale in shops next Thursday. They have an exclusive review of FEAR too, and have awarded it a score of...
*drum roll*
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> 90%, with repetitive enviroments and gameplay being it's downfall. </td></tr></table>


I want to know their DOOM³ and HL2 scores please http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Dr. Kill said:

dark_angel said:

Mountain Man said:
Is there anything about the gameplay to seperate this one from the pack, or it just "another shooter"?



It is made by Monolith! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Ok, so you mean that Monolith (thinks of Blood http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif ) is making this and Condemned: Criminal Origins? Cool! Will F.E.A.R. make an XBOX 360 appearance?



As of right now... FEAR is a PC only FPS. They have no plans of taking FEAR to any other platform.
But VUG has said depending on how well the game does... they will talk with Monolith about making a port. But Lith isn't a big fan of ports. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[seregrail7]

Doom 3 got 90 and Half-Life 2 got 97.

[SyntaxN]

seregrail7 said:
Doom 3 got 90 and Half-Life 2 got 97.


thx http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Now I know what I´ve to think about them, 90% for DOOM³ is realistic imo (without any fanboyism) but 97% for HL2 is pure bs http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

^^^ Agree, HL2 was not that great. Even though the HL2 fans around here and mag editors will never admit it. Those reviewers were just way to excited and caught up in the hype of if all to give HL2 an honest review.

But this isn't the forum for that, plenty of those discussions have come and past. Back on topic.... FEAR.

I'll be sure to give everyone heads up when my new issue of PC Gamer arrives... I can't wait. The cd/dvd that comes with it is supposed to have the official multiplayer demo, single player demo and some other goodies on it.

[avatar_58]

seregrail7 said:
Subscriber copies of PCZ will be arriving over the next few days, with the magazine going on sale in shops next Thursday. They have an exclusive review of FEAR too, and have awarded it a score of...
*drum roll*
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> 90%, with repetitive enviroments and gameplay being it's downfall. </td></tr></table>



Thats because it seems people don't like games that go all over the place like games of old. Back in the days of Duke3D and Blood....you could get away with it. You could be in a subway one minute and the next in a space ship. I miss that... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

That said, I'm sure FEAR will good...the gameplay alone will hook me.

[Orochi Avlis]

seregrail7 said:
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> 90%, with repetitive enviroments and gameplay being it's downfall. </td></tr></table>


I don't get it.
If the second aspect is it's "downfall", how come it got the score it got?

[Mountain Man]

SyntaxN said:
...97% for HL2 is pure bs http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif


At least PC Gamer had the good sense to give it a 98%! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[SyntaxN]

Mountain Man said:

SyntaxN said:
...97% for HL2 is pure bs http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif


At least PC Gamer had the good sense to give it a 98%! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


That´s a big problem with US magazins imo, they don´t give realistic scores...many german mags gave it something around 94% what is at least realistic http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Tang Lung]

avatar_58 said:

seregrail7 said:
Subscriber copies of PCZ will be arriving over the next few days, with the magazine going on sale in shops next Thursday. They have an exclusive review of FEAR too, and have awarded it a score of...
*drum roll*
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> 90%, with repetitive enviroments and gameplay being it's downfall. </td></tr></table>



Thats because it seems people don't like games that go all over the place like games of old. Back in the days of Duke3D and Blood....you could get away with it. You could be in a subway one minute and the next in a space ship. I miss that... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

That said, I'm sure FEAR will good...the gameplay alone will hook me.



Man, you just summed up the whole reason I find FPS games so boring. Same old dark environments with dull textures and no atmoshphere. Bring back the colourful and varied days of Duke3D, Doom, Shadow Warrior and Quake......well, maybe not Quake..but I still liked that game despite the intese brown.

[seregrail7]

Orochi Avlis said:

seregrail7 said:
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> 90%, with repetitive enviroments and gameplay being it's downfall. </td></tr></table>


I don't get it.
If the second aspect is it's "downfall", how come it got the score it got?


I don't have the magazine yet myself, my friend got it. Perhaps it gets repetitive towards the end. It might have varied enemies, but then at the end leave you fighting one type.

[Otto von Keisinger]

It really didn't deserve a higher score than HL1, though.

[avatar_58]

Tang Lung said:
Bring back the colourful and varied days of Duke3D, Doom, Shadow Warrior and Quake......



Exactly!

[Cerberus_e]

Mountain Man said:

seregrail7 said:
...and have awarded it a score of...
*drum roll*
<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> 90%, with repetitive enviroments and gameplay being it's downfall. </td></tr></table>


Sounds like Doom 3.



cool! now I'm sure that I will get the game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[avatar_58]

Cerberus_e said:
cool! now I'm sure that I will get the game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



You want repetitive environments?

[Cerberus_e]

mountain man said it was like doom 3, I did not think at all it has repititive environments while playing Doom 3.

[avatar_58]

Cerberus_e said:
mountain man said it was like doom 3, I did not think at all it has repititive environments while playing Doom 3.



Actually that was the one thing I didn't like about Doom 3....it should have left those labs once in awhile. The only real non lab metal area you went to was hell and that wasn't for very long. It didn't ruin the game, but it couldn't hurt to make different areas.

[SyntaxN]

PC Gamer gave FEAR 92%....


Highs: Kinetic destruction in combat; propulsive narrative; genuinely
creepy; movie-quality audio.
Lows: A bit too derivative of some key influences; surprisingly conventional plot.
Bottom Line: A highly entertaining shooter that makes good on its high.

[Opus131]

SyntaxN said:
Now I know what I´ve to think about them, 90% for DOOM³ is realistic imo (without any fanboyism) but 97% for HL2 is pure bs http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif



85% would have been a realistic score for Doom3, 92-94% for Half Life 2.

I'm surprised F.E.A.R. has repetive enviorments a la Doom3, Monolith has always been good in offering unique levels, guess they got bored trying to be original when nobody was taking notice...

[seregrail7]

O.k, I've been away, so now that I've gotten to read the review myself I'll tell you all why it got a 90.

The writer describes a moment when he's in a room. 5 guys burst in, he slow-mos and takes two out with head shots, chucks a grenade and kills the other three guys that hid around the corner. He starts to look around the room, smugly observing the carnage he just caused and leaves the room and then gets shot in the back by an enemy he thought was left in pieces from the grenade. Although the enviroments are samey, and you're fighting pretty much the same enemies throughout there are so many ways the fights can go. And because of some of the great encounters you will have it's a game not to be missed by any shooter fan.

Also, the demo level is not in the game, but is made up of encounters from the game. The cool highway chase shown earlier in the games development was cut also.

[Cerberus_e]

highway chase? you mean the vehicle part with the shotgun, and then go upside-down?
why do they cut cool parts!
I wanted that part for variation http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[SyntaxN]

The cool highway chase shown earlier in the games development was cut also.


Not...good http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Did they explained why? Possibly they want something new for an addon http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

btw, scans anyone? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

For all we know they had very good reasons to cut that part. Yes it looked very cool, but it could've been a very bad part to play.

I trust they made the right descisions. And besides, with the passing they wanted for the game I figured it would be cut.

I don't trust that everything we see in videos (and the vids showing that were some of the first cvids of FEAR) will be in the final game.

It's also been confirmed that while the game started out with you doing a lot of team work type play, that's been cut as well. To make you feel more vunerable. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Now I'm happy, send me in alone. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Cerberus_e]

what good reasons do they have? "because that part isn't scary"?
I disagree, you keep hearing of people that doom 3 started scary, but you quickly got used to it.
that's because they tried to make the whole game scary, if you don't put in non-scary parts as variation, it will never keep being scary.

and why would it be a very bad part to play?

[Damien_Azreal]

There was probably a reason, the story went through a few rewrites... so maybe it was cut from the story.

All I'm saying is trust Monolith.


and why would it be a very bad part to play?



I don't know, all I'm saying is just because something looks cool in a video... doesn't mean it would be cool to play yourself.

[Cerberus_e]

vehicles have shown to be a nice change in each game with vehicles to date http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
whether you're driving yourself or not http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Depends on your personal opinion. In Far Cry I skipped using vehicles if I could.

I hated the vehicle parts in HL2.

In Call of Duty and Medal of Honor the tanks were fun for a bit, but the controls kindof got to me.

I prefer to be walking around, just me.

(and I'm not really hyped about vehicles in Serious Sam 2, but I will try them)

[SyntaxN]

There was probably a reason, the story went through a few rewrites... so maybe it was cut from the story.


Well, I´ve to say that it don´t looked uber cool, when such stuff should be good, it couldn´t be very long because it gets boring when you just sit in a car and shoot at enemies for a long time^^
But the team combat idea...that would have been great imo, watching all your teammates getting killed one after another by Alma http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif


All I'm saying is trust Monolith.


I don´t trust any developer http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

They didn't say team combat was cut completely... but it is a very small part of the game now. It was originally designed as a large part.

[Cerberus_e]

well, I hope the E3 2004 guy that says "I heard you're a bad mother *****, and I hope it's true" is still there http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


SyntaxN said:
it couldn´t be very long because it gets boring when you just sit in a car and shoot at enemies for a long time^^



not in my opinion... standard walking/running in an FPS for too long gets boring too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
and I like to sit in vehicles, especially in call of duty, with all those tanks chasing you and the driver having to drive through the fences of houses instead and mowing their laundry http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[seregrail7]

I remember alot of the coolness of that section was down to the great eye candy. Perhaps they couldn't get it running at an acceptable frame rate to include it. The demo level and MP Beta levels weren't that big too, so maybe that was why. there are lots of reasons for why it would be cut. It is a shame as it looked very cool.

[Drazula]

I'm betting they had problems with the AI. It's almost always the AI when "something cool" gets pulled. It works great if you do "the right thing", but awful if you don't. They had a choice, "funnel" that part of the level so the AI works, or pull it. I'm betting "funnelling" wasn't an option.

BTW, does the FEAR multiplayer beta still work?

[Damien_Azreal]

Have some patience Draz, and official multiplayer demo is on the way. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Drazula]

F.E.A.R. is G.O.L.D. (http://bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=60337)

[Cerberus_e]

Drazula said:
F.E.A.R. is G.O.L.D. (http://bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=60337)

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[seregrail7]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif It's this or B&W2, and B&W2 is a clear winner. I'll probably get it the next time I have money after B&W2 comes out. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[SyntaxN]

Drazula said:
F.E.A.R. is G.O.L.D. (http://bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=viewthread&threadid=60337)


http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I´ve waited for this one for a long time, when I saw the first screen I thought it´s going to be Blood 3...then they released this 30 seconds movie and I was hyped forever http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Cerberus_e]

when does serious sam 2 come out? the same date or not? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Dogy]

Cerberus_e said:
when does serious sam 2 come out? the same date or not? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



3 days before.

[Damien_Azreal]

Dogy said:

Cerberus_e said:
when does serious sam 2 come out? the same date or not? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



3 days before.



Actualy that's just a guess. Croteam and Take2 have only said that SS2 will come out in Oct. No official date is set.

But I'm still waiting for SS2's demo and gold announcement.

[seregrail7]

Oh, I forgot. In the review that fat bloke from E3, well he's called Mapes and he's the comic relief in FEAR, and it's meant to be not that funny, and far more annoying.

[Damien_Azreal]

Did you see the fay guys belt-buckle?

RTFM - Read The F*cking Manual

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[dark_angel]

October is going to kick some serious ass!

F.E.A.R. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif


Serious sam 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif


B&W 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[dark_angel]

A nice F.E.A.R. diary on gamespot speaking about A.I.

Make sure to watch to new trailer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

source (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/fear/preview_6133519.html?q=1&tag=gs_pc_flashtop_bg)

[Damien_Azreal]

dark_angel said:
A nice F.E.A.R. diary on gamespot speaking about A.I.

Make sure to watch to new trailer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

source (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/fear/preview_6133519.html?q=1&tag=gs_pc_flashtop_bg)



d_a, I love ya man. You always find the good shit. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif We got to do some deathmatch in FEAR and some co-op in Serious Sam 2. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Man I hate posting after myself.

But... I just got my issue of PC Gamer. FEAR got a rating of 92%.

The review seems pretty good, I can't really break it down myself. And I can't do scans (no scanner) but it covers most of the gameplay and story elements of the game.

Doesn't say anything about performance... so I have no idea what to expect out of the final build. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

They spend of the time talking about the games influence, and how it's very clear that the game was influenced by Japanese horror films. I was hoping for something a bit more deep... but it works.

Also, they lied in their last issue... no multiplayer demo on the disc. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif Bastards.

[TerminX]

Damien_Azreal said:
We got to do some deathmatch in FEAR


Can I play too? I'll bring the "death" part...

[Damien_Azreal]

TerminX said:

Damien_Azreal said:
We got to do some deathmatch in FEAR


Can I play too? I'll bring the "death" part...



Of course TX, at least that way we know how'll be the winner. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Cerberus_e]

TerminX said:

Damien_Azreal said:
We got to do some deathmatch in FEAR


Can I play too? I'll bring the "death" part...



until I join, that is

[Drazula]

Listen to you guys... talking tough. Well, there is no death until I join.... as fodder of course. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif