processor = 43 degrees celcius

[Cerberus_e]

my procesor has been 43 degrees since I bought this computer.
according to active intel monitor that not hot (it's in the green zone)
but I've heard temperatures of others, and it's a lot lower of them, sometimes below zero http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

is there something wrong with my computer or is it normal?
I'm running this computer since november 2003 and had no problems.

but I've noticed something, last time I checked (some months ago) intel active monitor showed:

Processor Zone - System zone 1 - System zone 2
System fan 1 - System fan 3

System fan 2 was missing. (I have never seen a system fan 2)
but now he only shows system fan 1, 3 is gone?

[Bludd]

What is the temp under load?

Anyway, 43 isn't bad.

[Kev_Boy]

43°C is perfectly fine. Especially if it's a load temperature (i.e. After playing Doom 3 for a couple hours)

[Cerberus_e]

I sometimes get a warning in the middle of the night when my computer isn't used.
then it's a loud alert that only stops if you press OK
sometimes awakes the whole house http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
fortunately it only happens 2 times in a year or something

[NutWrench]

No, that's perfectly normal. I wouldn't start to get concerned until it got up to around 60C or so. Mine runs are about 36C unloaded and around 50-55 loaded.

If that happens, check your CPU fan. That fan pulls a lot of air through the heatsink and dust and lint tend to stick to the heatsink fins and build up.

Make sure your case fans are running and even if they are, check the vents in the back of the case anyway, to make sure they are clear. If your computer case feels warm, then there's probably no airflow through the case.

[Jeff]

Mine runs at 21 C (at boot up each morning; 28 C unloaded) and 37 C after playing Half Life 2. It's not a stock cooler, but a 800 gram Zalman copper cooler. A guy told me that if it's over 65 C, then I'd start to worry. A CPU's die temperature is around 80-90 C, so you've got lots of room there.

[Kevin Wolff]

I idle at almost 50C. Consider yourself lucky.

[Phayzon]

OMG! Do you even have a fan/heatsink!? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[TerminX]

Phayzon said:
OMG! Do you even have a fan/heatsink!? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif


He probably has a P4.

[Kevin Wolff]

Yes, I do. Prescott 2.8.

Interestingly, though, it used to idle much closer to 40. Around 42 I think. Yet recently it's been around 50. I think I cleaned it, but it didn't help much. Not sure what's going on.

[NutWrench]

One of those evil, possessed Prescott P4's, forged in the fires of hell.
(They tend to run a lot hotter than Northwood P4s, Kevin)

[Kevin Wolff]

I know that. I've known it since two days after I bought it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Perhaps I should get a better fan than Intel's.

[NutWrench]

A bigger heatsink might be a good idea, too. Get one that's meant for a 3 Ghz CPU, even if yours is a 2.8

[Kevin Wolff]

Here's something that's supposed to be built for Precott 3.6. Certainly looks big enough (like Intel's own 3.6 cooler)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-128-005&depa=0

[TerminX]

Kevin Wolff said:
Yes, I do. Prescott 2.8.

Interestingly, though, it used to idle much closer to 40. Around 42 I think. Yet recently it's been around 50. I think I cleaned it, but it didn't help much. Not sure what's going on.


I'd clean it again, making extra sure to get everything. My Linux box's Athlon XP was idling at around 55C, but I didn't notice for months because ever since I switched to 2.6 (I switched at 2.6.0-test5) I had been too lazy to get lm_sensors working. However, after a good cleaning my idle temps dropped significantly (I've seen the overclocked, overvolted processor idle at 31 now).

You might also want to reseat the heatsink and make sure to use something like arctic silver as a thermal compound as it won't dry and crack. The white shit usually does.

[Kevin Wolff]

Heh, I *never* got lm_sensors working. Just used the BIOS sensor. I deleted the lm drivers I think, don't know what the problem was.

And the heatsink touches the CPU itself via a "pad" that came attached in the box. That's probably not vey good either. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[TerminX]

Kevin Wolff said:
Heh, I *never* got lm_sensors working. Just used the BIOS sensor. I deleted the lm drivers I think, don't know what the problem was.

And the heatsink touches the CPU itself via a "pad" that came attached in the box. That's probably not vey good either. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif


Yeah, those pads are shit. Remove the remains of it from the heatsink and the CPU with 99% Isopropyl alcohol and get some Arctic Silver 5 to use instead. Replace the heatsink with a nice big Thermalright with a Panaflo on it.

Unless, of course, you get bored like myself and construct something like this (http://envision7.com/~rich/pics/fanpic.jpg). http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Phayzon]

That doesnt look big enough. :P

[Phait]

Y'know as much as I like a quiet computer, theres something about no fan noise, or near no fan noise that is kinda odd - almost subconsciously wondering "is this thing really ON?" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[DudeMiester]

My CPU runs at about 50C load, and I have a Thermaltake Volcano 12. Then again it's a Palermino core, it has always ran hot, with the stock heatsink it was at 65C load! Of course that's nothing compared to my 6800GT at load, it can sometimes reach 85C. Although, considering the failure temp of the CPU is 90C and the GPU is 120C, they're ok temps.

[Jeff]

If you don't mind having a 773 gram anvil on your CPU, go with the one (http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=43&code=005009) I've got. Does a damn good job at cooling. They've also got a lighter 450 gram heatsink I believe if you're rough with your system. It comes in both AMD and Intel flavors.

[Kevin Wolff]

Bump. I cleaned it last week - it was idling at 54, but afterward, around 45. Not bad for this setup.

[Phait]

I recently folded all my IDE cables into W shape and kept them tight like that with twisty-ties (bread-ties), usually 3 per cord. I noticed the temperature seems to have dropped just a few degrees. Not a big difference, but why not.

[NutWrench]

Kevin Wolff said:
Bump. I cleaned it last week - it was idling at 54, but afterward, around 45. Not bad for this setup.




I clean out my heatsinks and fans about twice a year and usually end up running about 15 degrees cooler, afterwards. I use an old, soft-bristled toothbrush to clean fans and heatsinks. It really gets all the lint out from grills and between the heatsink fins.

Videocard heatsinks need occasional cleaning, too.

[Kevin Wolff]

Videocard heatsinks need occasional cleaning, too.


You mean like the time my computer crashed and the video card refused to start up until after I cleaned it?

[DudeMiester]

If you need further cooling, you could use a diamond powerder based thermal paste. Be sure to read the comments from Arctic Silver's chief scientist, they're interesting.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=805734#post805734

[Evil Angel]

NutWrench said:

Kevin Wolff said:
Bump. I cleaned it last week - it was idling at 54, but afterward, around 45. Not bad for this setup.




I clean out my heatsinks and fans about twice a year and usually end up running about 15 degrees cooler, afterwards. I use an old, soft-bristled toothbrush to clean fans and heatsinks. It really gets all the lint out from grills and between the heatsink fins.

Videocard heatsinks need occasional cleaning, too.



That helps a lot for me too. I usually idle at 48-52C depending on room temp and 58-62C under load. I've been running like that for 18 months now. I don't think there's too much of a problem with highish temps as long as they're around mid 60's. 65-70C is where I'd get worried. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[BioHazard]

I have an athlon 1.4 ghz, which idles at about 50 - 55, and goes to about 55 - 60 under load.

Sometimes when the weathers hot, and my pc gets hot, the cpu resets itself randomnly so I'm assuming that anything above 60 degrees C for an athlon is probably bad.

[Steve]

My Athlon 64 3400 runs at 25°C idle and 30°C on a full load. But it sound like a jet engine with all the fans in there http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Is your computer quiet? That's a pretty good temp if it is. I wouldn't worry about it.

[Spyd]

You're lucky.

I have a Prescott 3Ghz. This thing is so HOT that the inbox fan+heatsink that came with it was running full speed EVER and is so loud that the computer could be heard everywhere in the house.
When I got tired of the noise I bought the Zalman's Reserator (http://www20.tomshardware.com/howto/20040630/water_cooler-08.html), and now I can sleep in the same room than my computer.