Chrono Riddick Demo out! (Booblemash)

[Yatta]

http://www.3dgamers.com/games/chroniclesriddick/downloads/

Sholbooli, http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://img46.exs.cx/img46/7421/riddick7wv.jpg

Does anyone know if it's different from the Xbox version? I hope so, because I've already beaten that one many times. Downloading now. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Warmaster129]

The PC version has some new levels (riot gear romp, there might have been another new part) and a commmentary mode, along with a few new packs of smokes.

[Phait]

AWESOME! Been waiting for this!

[seregrail7]

About feckin time. Been waiting ages for a demo. Still not sure wheter or not to get it.

[Phait]

It's only 200MB..

Would you rather spend $25 (used) to $40 on the game, or try the demo first http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Hudson]

Riddick is worth it, just buy the game

[Gryph]

Actually the PC version is $30 so it's quite a bargain. And it's a great game.

[NutWrench]

Cool. I've heard good stuff about this game, so I'm going to give the demo a try.

[John]

Anybody who told me that Riddick is just a rehashed movie idea ( I specifically know of afew people) Download this demo and prepare to be wrong.

[Damien_Azreal]

Riddick is an awesome game. And for it's price I would say just skip the demo and buy it! (Nutwrench, you should love it)

It's got a great atmosphere and a wonderful mix of gameplay style. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[KaiserSoze]

just reading the comments here, you guys have sold me on it. walmart has it so i think i'll grab it this week.

[Phait]

I've gotten a headache right now, so I didn't get too far in the demo.

I think these are the best Shader graphics I've seen to date, beyond D3 and Far Cry, although things still suffer from the shiny-plastic-rubber syndrome. Right now one thing that bugs me is some of the control: Riddick wavers around when moving, and the melee combat isn't so great. I'm sure the issues with moving can be solved via tweaking a config or something...

Anyway, I can only really run it playable at Shader 1.1, and that's ok. 0.5 runs even better but I don't want to play at that. But basically the game isn't smooth enough to really hold a battle down consistently.

It does seem like a cool game otherwise.

[John]

KaiserSoze said:
just reading the comments here, you guys have sold me on it. walmart has it so i think i'll grab it this week.



Kaiser, think of it this way.

It's Doom III with real gameplay, and it gives you "stuff" to do. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Simon Charles]

Agreed. Riddick is Doom 3 with gameplay. And it's already cheaper on the shelves. At 30$, you can't go wrong. I was skeptic too but I got it anyway and I don't regret my purchase. Best shooter I've played in a long time. It's dark, gritty, and fun with great graphics and good weapons that pack a punch. That game deserves every praise it got.

[Damien_Azreal]

And another thing that makes it great, it's not all just shooting.

There's stealth, missions, collecting... lots of exploring to do. Typical run and gun, and then some shooting is really mixed in with stealth.

I love Riddick. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Claws]

phait said:...and the melee combat isn't so great.



You crazy? This has the best melee combat out of any FPS. You actually feel the impact of each punch and characters get bruises! Not to mention the crazy counters and reversals!

[John]

Actually stealth is preferred for alot of it.

There's just something grand about hiding in the shadows, having a badguy walk past you and snapping his neck from behind http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[edit] And I agree about the melee being great. You can have some pretty damn good fist fights, and using block/punch combos is cool. And the fact that EVERY punch you throw, the guys face gets messed up more and more. That's cool.

[Kronx]

I tried it briefly. I wasn't too impressed, but I think I was playing it wrong. I didn't see any mention of stealth in the intro, so I was just running around trying to mow everyone down with the assault rifle.

[Water12356]

SPOON!!!!!!!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

/me downloads but remembers I have a crappy 3D Card, prepairs to adjust all settings to low.

[John]

The best parts of the game is in the full version. For about a good 30-45 minutes you have no weapons, and you have to use stealth and talk to alot of people and stuff.

I havent tried to demo ofcourse (i dont know what level its in) because I have the full version on my desktop.

Where does the demo take place? I'm hoping someplace close to either the beginning prison levels or the pit. Pit = good fun.

[Yatta]

Warmaster129 said:
The PC version has some new levels (riot gear romp, there might have been another new part) and a commmentary mode, along with a few new packs of smokes.


I meant the demo. And nope, this demo is identical to the Xbox version. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Roger]

Kronx said:
I tried it briefly. I wasn't too impressed, but I think I was playing it wrong. I didn't see any mention of stealth in the intro, so I was just running around trying to mow everyone down with the assault rifle.



Yeah, the vast majority of what I've played on my XBox version demands either talking to NPCs and/or sneaking in the shadows.

[seregrail7]

THe cheapest anyahere I know is selling it for is €45. We didn't get it cheaper like the U.S. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Enragiated]

Games OK, better than Doom 3 but thats not saying much, not as good as theif 3 when it comes to stealth elements, great graphics, i'd pick it up for 20 bucks but I wasn't THAT impressed.

[Phait]

Claws said:

phait said:...and the melee combat isn't so great.



You crazy? This has the best melee combat out of any FPS. You actually feel the impact of each punch and characters get bruises! Not to mention the crazy counters and reversals!



Yep I'm crazy, because I don't share your opinion.

I personally haven't yet found a game that had melee combat that felt right.

[Enragiated]

Wish the demo was longer

[Water12356]

When I first started it up It looked almost as good as Doom 3 (on my computer...) but It was choppy. So to get a smooth framerate, I made it look like crap. Yep, im gona need a better graphics card....

[Hudson]

phait said:

Claws said:

phait said:...and the melee combat isn't so great.



You crazy? This has the best melee combat out of any FPS. You actually feel the impact of each punch and characters get bruises! Not to mention the crazy counters and reversals!



Yep I'm crazy, because I don't share your opinion.

I personally haven't yet found a game that had melee combat that felt right.



Well I as well think Riddick has the best melee combat hands down, so yeah.. You're crazy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Hudson]

Water12356 said:
When I first started it up It looked almost as good as Doom 3 (on my computer...) but It was choppy. So to get a smooth framerate, I made it look like crap. Yep, im gona need a better graphics card....



Riddick does look better then Doom III http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Enragiated]

Doom 3 had nice glass effects, I don't know if riddicks are up to par because there was no glass to be seen in the demo. Games like this make me want to beef up my computer bad though

[Water12356]

Hudson said:

Water12356 said:
When I first started it up It looked almost as good as Doom 3 (on my computer...) but It was choppy. So to get a smooth framerate, I made it look like crap. Yep, im gona need a better graphics card....



Riddick does look better then Doom III http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Ok u got me! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[John]

Clarence Bodicker said:
Wish the demo was longer



Get the game. It's alot longer than this crap.

There's some great gameplay elements in it aswell. Playing as a mech, starting prison fights, etc. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[SyntaxN]

Yup, like everyone said, buy it, it´s worth the money!
A little bit short but this hours are "filled" with great graphics and the perfect mixture of shooter&stealth gameplay http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Clarence Bodicker said:
Doom 3 had nice glass effects, I don't know if riddicks are up to par because there was no glass to be seen in the demo. Games like this make me want to beef up my computer bad though



It has some galss effects later in the game... they're pretty cool. But most of the game is confined inside the prison. With very little fewing of the outside world. (great atmosphere)

I like Doom 3, but I love Riddick. It does the same tech, but with better textures and level design. Plus the gameplay is worth the 30 bucks it costs. It may be short, but it's a hell of a ride.

[John]

I am inlove with the Prison. The beginning is ok, but the middle of the game is great. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif It kind of reminds me of KOTOR 1 but more grittier and it looks better.

I would scope out the whole place for rooms with no cameras. I would follow a person to that room...and break their neck. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

(The game is not a Run and Gun.)

[NutWrench]

Almost done downloading the demo . . . . http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Enragiated]

No real stealth parts in this demo, if I had to make a judgement on the demo alone I probably wouldnt get this game.

[Ruger]

Clarence Bodicker said:
No real stealth parts in this demo, if I had to make a judgement on the demo alone I probably wouldnt get this game.



Pretty much my take.

[John]

Then they did a bad job at placing where in the game the demo should be.

Because the full game kicks ultimate ass.

[Damien_Azreal]

Where is does the demo start?


I figured I would post some screens of the game for some people. These were all taken at high details, 1024*768.

[Damien_Azreal]

Second screen. Pretty. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[NutWrench]

Damien_Azreal said:
Where is does the demo start?



The demo starts at the beginning of the Mainframe and ends just after you take the lift up to cell block A (after you confront the armored guard). I took the screenshots below at the start and end of the demo.

Impressions: generally good. My biggest complaint is the way the character handles. The view bob is ridiculous: it's like he's got springs in his shoes or something. Is there a way to dampen this down? I didn't see anything in the options menus.

How come the tint of the flashlight changes from white to blue when you go into crouch mode? (accompanied by a dramatic whoosh-type sound effect?). I also noticed that blue tint and a heartbeat sound just before a guard ambushed me.

I was starting to wonder during the boss fight if i was doing it right. He kept taunting me, telling me how he's bullet-proof but I just kept blasting away with different weapons until he suddenly dropped dead. I was actually beginning to wonder if there was some other strategy I needed to try (exploding barrels? special weapon?). The second time I played the demo, I just ran straight over to the lift and was able to ride it up and avoid the fight alltogether.

The demo was awfully short. I take it I'm missing a lot? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Yatta]

He kept taunting me, telling me how he's bullet-proof but I just kept blasting away with different weapons until he suddenly dropped dead. I was actually beginning to wonder if there was some other strategy I needed to try (exploding barrels? special weapon?).


I climped the box in the back all the way up to whereh e could no longer shoot me, where I proceeded to shooting his head until he dropped dead. It didn't take very long.

[bert123]

I think you can also shoot at his back and he should die fast. Or maybe it's just me.

[Phait]

I took some shots of the Shader differences:

0.5: http://www.phait-accompli.com/crap/cor/0.5.jpg
1.1: http://www.phait-accompli.com/crap/cor/1.1.jpg
2.0: http://www.phait-accompli.com/crap/cor/2.0.jpg

Anyway, for each shot it made this shot too:
http://www.phait-accompli.com/crap/cor/grey.jpg

Why?

[Hudson]

NutWrench said:
Impressions: generally good. My biggest complaint is the way the character handles. The view bob is ridiculous: it's like he's got springs in his shoes or something. Is there a way to dampen this down? I didn't see anything in the options menus.



It's called realistic movement.


How come the tint of the flashlight changes from white to blue when you go into crouch mode? (accompanied by a dramatic whoosh-type sound effect?). I also noticed that blue tint and a heartbeat sound just before a guard ambushed me.



It changes to blue whenever you are hidden and unnoticed by guards.


I was starting to wonder during the boss fight if i was doing it right. He kept taunting me, telling me how he's bullet-proof but I just kept blasting away with different weapons until he suddenly dropped dead. I was actually beginning to wonder if there was some other strategy I needed to try (exploding barrels? special weapon?). The second time I played the demo, I just ran straight over to the lift and was able to ride it up and avoid the fight alltogether.



Your best bet is to avoid the armored guard, you can kill him but it's a lot easier just to take the lift.


The demo was awfully short. I take it I'm missing a lot? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Yes. Riddick is one of the best games I have ever played, a hell of a lot better than Doom III.

[Hudson]

Hudson said:
Riddick is worth it, just buy the game



I figured i'd just quote myself for truth http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

The starting place of the demo is a pretty crappy place to start. You miss some very cool stuff in the beginning.
You also miss a bunch of the tips they give at the start of the game by starting the demo there. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

As for the gaurd in the riot gear, I usually just ignore him. You can fight him... but it's a waist of a ton of ammo.
Like Hudson said when the screen turns blue when you crouch, that shows that you are hidden in teh shadows.

Just go buy the game. You won't be dissapointed with the full version. Promise. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[NutWrench]

Do the packs of smokes come in handy later on?
Do they do anything useful?

[Gryph]

NutWrench said:
Do the packs of smokes come in handy later on?
Do they do anything useful?


They just unlock extra content stuff. I didn't really read the messages whenever I picked them up.

[Cerberus_e]

you have to shoot the armored guard from it's back, then he says: "no, not the back! that's not fair"
it takes much less than a clip

don't ignore the guard, because you will have trouble later in the game otherwise.

does it start in the infirmary, or in the DNA chamber?

and the reason why no game has done melee right (like someone said) is because there is ALWAYS one strategy that always works.

for example, block 3 fists, then give one yourself, then block 3 again, or: knock, run backwards, stand still, wait until he approaches, , knock, run backwards, stand still, wait until he approaches, knock, run backwards, ...
and each enemy has his own "tactic that always works"
that's the reason why melee can't be used right, or else it would depend on luck (if a random generated number between 0 and 1 is lower than 0.5 then the enemy knocks and you can't block) which would be even more frustrating.
that's the reason why melee is so repititive in every game (prince of persia)

and doom 3 is better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[NutWrench]

Yup. The armored guard was ridiculously easy to kill from above. Two shots to the head and he went down. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm going to play through this a couple more time times but I REALLY don't like the way the character handles. It's like he's balancing on ball bearings and I think it's really distracting. Normal people do not twitch and sway back and forth, especially when they're trying to be stealthy.

[kylemf88]

I can;t beleave this... I hate Vin Deasel and hate the movies... But this Demo is awsome! If it wasn't for the third splinter cell and swat 4 I would go out and buy this tomorow. But I'm gonna pick up a copy of this sooner or later!

[John]

Cerberus_e said:



and doom 3 is better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif BLASPHEMY! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Hudson]

Cerberus_e said:
and doom 3 is better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Hah, you know that was almost funny http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Enragiated]

Doom 3 was a seriously flawed game, but the engine has potential.

[Roger]

I love Doom 3, but this game ranks 2004 GOTY for me.

[Cerberus_e]

Hudson said:

Cerberus_e said:
and doom 3 is better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Hah, you know that was almost funny http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



I'm serious
do you see me laughing?
eh eh eh?

[kylemf88]

If there is gona be a doom 3 junky I guess i'll have to play the other party.

Half-Life 2 is better than this. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[John]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Everybody has their opinions; but Half Life 2 seemed like one big tech demo to me. Lot's of open spaces and stuff; seemed like they forgot alot of stuff for such a long awaited game.

Multiplayers the only great part about that game.

[Damien_Azreal]

Does this thread have to turn into another HL2 vs. Doom 3 type thread?

There's enough in Riddick to just focus on it.

[Ruger]

Getting back on topic, the action elements did not impress me. If they released another demo that focused on the much lauded stealth elements, I might consider buying it. At the moment though, no sale for me.

[Enragiated]

Ruger said:
Getting back on topic, the action elements did not impress me. If they released another demo that focused on the much lauded stealth elements, I might consider buying it. At the moment though, no sale for me.




Right back atcha

[Cerberus_e]

there is only stealth at the mines.
and I wasn't stealth, I speedrunned through it, and it worked.

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerberus_e said:
there is only stealth at the mines.
and I wasn't stealth, I speedrunned through it, and it worked.



You can do stealth at the start of the game. In the infirmary and mainframe you can do a lot of stealth if you try.

[John]

I use stealth the whole time, being undetected. It works well if you KNOW HOW, and LEAN over every corner, etc. and wait for the baddies to turn their backs.

[Cerberus_e]

Damien_Azreal said:

Cerberus_e said:
there is only stealth at the mines.
and I wasn't stealth, I speedrunned through it, and it worked.



You can do stealth at the start of the game. In the infirmary and mainframe you can do a lot of stealth if you try.



yes, but it isn't necassary, so why being stealth then?
if stealth games don't force you do be stealth, there is no fun.

[John]

Not really, you have the option of using stealth or doing the usual run and gun, and that way its easier to get shot at.

[Daveman]

It was really easy to be stealthy in the demo. I snuck up to and broke the necks of the first five guards or so.

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerberus_e said:

Damien_Azreal said:

Cerberus_e said:
there is only stealth at the mines.
and I wasn't stealth, I speedrunned through it, and it worked.



You can do stealth at the start of the game. In the infirmary and mainframe you can do a lot of stealth if you try.



yes, but it isn't necassary, so why being stealth then?
if stealth games don't force you do be stealth, there is no fun.



That's one thing I thought was great about it. It didn't force you. Stealth is great if done correctly, but done wrong it's terrible. And usualy it's "forced to do stealth or you fail" type missions that really suck.

I love the freedom to try stealth and if you screw up you can completely change style and blast em away.
It's another thing that Riddick does so well it just adds to the total atmosphere of the game.

[Cerberus_e]

if you can do it fastly, there is no reason for me to do it slowly