Guess who is the Spiderman 3 villian actor? [Archive]

thefly

03-23-2005, 12:46 AM

Paroxysm said:
They've said before that Conner's won't be becomming lizard in three, but that may have changed. most expected is sandman although there are plenty of great characters.

Cool, didn't know that info about Conners. Sandman would be awesome though. I do wonder when they will put Venom in a movie. Seems like a good way to introduce that character, then spin him/it off into another movie franchise. Of course Dr. Doom would also be cool, but I can't remember if he was more Spidy or Capt. America's foe.

Would be cool to seem Rami go crazy and do a Sinister Six (or seven) movie.

Viciarg

03-23-2005, 12:56 AM

I've read on a german movie page that there might be two villains in spiderman 3

Mediocre, Man.

03-23-2005, 01:10 AM

That'd be cool.

Geo-King

03-23-2005, 02:12 AM

thefly said:
I think they's dropped Conners' name in both movies, so I wouldn't be suprised to see the Lizard.

Though, I'm sure we're all waiting for Venom.

Venom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Aaaaa, I can see it now, 650 pounds of muscle in a jet black spidy suit trying to rip spider man to peaces... It would be so cool to see a CGI Venom.

Kronx

03-23-2005, 07:51 AM

My hope for 3 was that it would be the Hobgoblin or Green Goblin. Of course, everyone would know it's Harry. But at the end Spidey unmasks him, and it's Jameson's son (that's who MJ dumped in 2 right?) Then Harry shows up as another Hobgoblin or Green Goblin, and Spidey has two maniacs to deal with.

With Church, I only see two possibilities.... Venom or Sandman.

My problem with Venom is that I like his original origin in the Secret Wars. My guess is the movie would be more along the lines of the cartoon, and Church would be an astronaut who brought the symbiote back and for some reason had a huge grudge against Spidey.

Sandman... well he's never been my favorite. I just never felt he had a lot of character to work with. He's really just a thug with powers, as opposed to a villain that has some real stake in hurting Spidey.

Speaking of which, I'd love to see a Secret Wars movie. That's my all-time favorite comic series.

Kev_Hectic

03-23-2005, 08:27 AM

thefly said:

Cool, didn't know that info about Conners. Sandman would be awesome though. I do wonder when they will put Venom in a movie. Seems like a good way to introduce that character, then spin him/it off into another movie franchise. Of course Dr. Doom would also be cool, but I can't remember if he was more Spidy or Capt. America's foe.

Would be cool to seem Rami go crazy and do a Sinister Six (or seven) movie.

Dr. Doom is going to be the villain in the Fantastic Four movie, so he really can't be in Spiderman 3. Venom would be cool though, Eddie Brock's name was mentioned in both movies (or one of them?), but as far as I know there was never any actor playing him. Sam Rami could finally bring him into the third one. I'd imagine Harry would also be the Green Goblin in this movie, since he found the Glider and shit at the end of the second movie.

Orochi Avlis

03-23-2005, 08:47 AM

I think he will probably play Venom.
Cut his hair, buff him up a bit, he would make a great Eddie Brock.

KaiserSoze

03-23-2005, 10:57 AM

i'm leaning towards "sandman" but i also think he could be "the hobgoblin".

harry knows peter is spider-man now and has found his dad's secret goblin lair.

harry is still unsure whether to experiment on himself using the chemicals to face spider-man/pete so he decides to hire one of oscorp's employee's to do his dirty work and become the hobgoblin.

who knows though. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Damien_Azreal

03-23-2005, 10:38 PM

Venom.

Has to be, I absolutely love Venom. I really wish it would be Carnage... Cletus Cassady. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif But you have to have Venom before you can do Carnage.

Roger

03-23-2005, 10:46 PM

Venom and/or Carnage would be awesome. Just have to wonder where you can find someone nutty enough to fill Carnage's symbiote shoes. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Locnor

03-24-2005, 03:50 PM

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With Church, I only see two possibilities.... Venom or Sandman.

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I Disagree ......

I only see one villan. Kraven.

and I think that Harry will return as the Green Goblin

GodBlitZor

03-24-2005, 03:57 PM

Yessss give me all six symbiotes.....symbiotes rock.....I loooovvvvveeeeee symbiotes....

AlienAssKicker

03-24-2005, 08:52 PM

Roger said:
Just have to wonder where you can find someone nutty enough to fill Carnage's symbiote shoes. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Jim Carrey? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

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Lengis

03-24-2005, 09:28 PM

I would love Venom, but I think the director stated at some point that he has no interest in including Venom in any of the movies...... but he said that a couple of years ago.

There's still hope. Venom is by far the best Spidey villian ever.

Twin

03-25-2005, 02:52 AM

i got a feeling it'll be mysterio.....just looking at that guys makes me think of mysterio...

thefly

03-25-2005, 03:08 AM

Twin said:
i got a feeling it'll be mysterio.....just looking at that guys makes me think of mysterio...

Yes, Mysterio also crossed my mind. Truth be it, Spidey has tons of enemies to chose from. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I've really liked both movies so far, much more then X-men.

supermeerkat

03-25-2005, 04:20 AM

I don't care who the actor is, as long as he plays the Big Wheel (http://www.seanbaby.com/stupcom/bigwheel4.htm) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Nacho

03-25-2005, 09:03 AM

I wish comic books still cost 35 cents.

jimbob

03-25-2005, 09:15 AM

tombstone http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

and yeah, i also wish comic books werent that expensive

GodBlitZor

03-25-2005, 02:56 PM

Sam Raimi is awesome so I trust him that it will really be Spiderman vs The Evil Dead.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Zztx

03-27-2005, 09:19 PM

I was talking over the Spiderman 3 villain issue with a friend; he said that if they were going to throw in Venom, they should make him be Jameson's son, rather than Eddie Brock, my "friend"'s reason being that he had a motive to be pissed at Spidey/Parker, and since Brock really hadn't been introduced yet.

Of course, I find that idea to be total B.S. Do it as right as you can, or don't do it at all.

AndOne

03-27-2005, 10:32 PM

Zztx said:
I was talking over the Spiderman 3 villain issue with a friend; he said that if they were going to throw in Venom, they should make him be Jameson's son, rather than Eddie Brock, my "friend"'s reason being that he had a motive to be pissed at Spidey/Parker, and since Brock really hadn't been introduced yet.

Of course, I find that idea to be total B.S. Do it as right as you can, or don't do it at all.

This I agree with, + i thot the original storyline went with Jameson's son going into outer space and getting some alien virus that actually turned him into Venom? I could be wrong with that, but i thot that's how it went. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

thefly

03-27-2005, 11:50 PM

Ah, hadn't thought of that. Interesting.

Damn though, if they did it that way, I guess we might not see Spidey in his Secret War costume (which was the symbiote). Either way, the costume was the best. I've got an action figure of it here somewhere. Used have him holding onto the side of my monitor until I got a flat screen. :/

KaiserSoze

03-28-2005, 12:40 AM

AndOne said:

This I agree with, + i thot the original storyline went with Jameson's son going into outer space and getting some alien virus that actually turned him into Venom? I could be wrong with that, but i thot that's how it went. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

this is correct.

jameson went into outerspace and unknowingly brought back the alien symbiote.

i'll get into spoilers here with venom's origin: <table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> the alien symbiote(which resembles a black blob attaches itself to peter parker/spider-man and it turns into his black costume. something like that, it's been awhile since i've read the story arch. anyways, pete notices that the costume starts doing weird stuff and finally realizes his costume is actual a living being. pete wants it off but the alien symbiote won't leave him. peter goes to a bell tower and rings the bell while standing under it...the immense ringing from the bell forces the symbiote to leave pete's body and run away(it apparently doesn't like high pitched sounds.). peter is happy that he's gotten rid of the alien but unknown to him....the symbiote has found a new host who doesn't care for peter parker, fellow reporter eddie brock. the symbiote turns eddie brock into "venom"..one of the most vicious spider-man villains of all time who has a lust to eat spider-man's "brains". http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif </td></tr></table>

whether they to this route in the third movie, who knows. they'd really have to condense the storyline.

thefly

03-28-2005, 02:31 AM

whether they to this route in the third movie, who knows. they'd really have to condense the storyline.

Yeah, but they already did that with GG and Doc Oct, so condensing the story, I can deal with. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Beelze

03-28-2005, 06:57 AM

I thought Jameson's son went to the moon, where he found some gemstone that turned him into 'Man-wolf.'

Akari

03-28-2005, 08:11 AM

The Vulture? Scorpion? Eddie Brock?

KaiserSoze

03-28-2005, 08:13 AM

Beelze said:
I thought Jameson's son went to the moon, where he found some gemstone that turned him into 'Man-wolf.'

he did.

he also brought back the alien symbiote a.k.a. venom.

hellchicken

03-28-2005, 11:38 AM

KaiserSoze said:

Beelze said:
I thought Jameson's son went to the moon, where he found some gemstone that turned him into 'Man-wolf.'

he did.

he also brought back the alien symbiote a.k.a. venom.

Yes, but this is the Animated Series version of those two entirely different story arcs.

As for Eddie Brock, I do think we will see more of him in the next Spiderman, but I really doubt we'll see Venom, if at all then eventually just hinted at.

Venom being Spiderman's most fierceful and brutal (and personal) arch-enemy he requires some build-up, rather than Eddie Brock becoming Venom and fighting Spidey in the next film. My guess is maybe the 4th or 5th installment in that franchise.

Paroxysm

03-28-2005, 06:03 PM

Akari said:
The Vulture?

Wouldn't think so in this one. But I thought I'd just say I'd love the vulture to appear. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

KaiserSoze

03-28-2005, 06:07 PM

aint-it-cool-news via their "sony insider spies" are saying church will be playing sandman. sounds like
this is pretty solid.

Nacho

03-28-2005, 06:46 PM

hellchicken said:

Venom being Spiderman's most fierceful and brutal (and personal) arch-enemy he requires some build-up, rather than Eddie Brock becoming Venom and fighting Spidey in the next film. My guess is maybe the 4th or 5th installment in that franchise.

Unfortunately, according to Raimi, this is the last Spiderman. Unless this has changed...

avatar_58

03-29-2005, 10:37 PM

Venom damnit......thats the only thing I want. However it would be nice to see Spiderman get the suit, beat the snot out of Lizard and GG2/Hob goblin to a near fatal point, ditch the suit and it gets on Brock. The movie could end with him vowing revenge on parker and just fading to black after he gives us some eye candy movement http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The scene would be set for spiderman 4...

hellchicken

03-30-2005, 01:59 AM

Well, I guess that's what Raimi says, but maybe he meant the last Spiderman-flick to be made by him, do you really believe Sony Entertainment would just kill a cash cow like that in her prime? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

@avatar_58

What you said is exactly what I imagine for Venom's appearance in Spiderman 3. But we'll see what Raimi comes up with. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

avatar_58

03-30-2005, 09:52 PM

hellchicken said:
Well, I guess that's what Raimi says, but maybe he meant the last Spiderman-flick to be made by him, do you really believe Sony Entertainment would just kill a cash cow like that in her prime? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I don't. I think they are contemplating letting it go so that a 4th film would not hurt the series. However....if they properly introduce Eddie Brock.....fans will parade to their front door demanding a sequel and the promise of viewers would be phenominal. I don't think Sony would have the balls to say "Sorry...we only wanted 3"

For the 3rd film I just hope they choose a half-decent villain....I don't want GG2 or god forbid sandman. Call me newage...but I rather liked what they did with Doctor Octopus and I hope an equally amazing and plot-filled villain is used.

JackpotDen

03-31-2005, 10:56 AM

he looks skinny, so no venom "fo'shmoe". I think one of the villains we can't see properly, such as electro, mysterio, and i don't think sandman, but signs point to sandman...

Personally, I want carnage!

Lengis

03-31-2005, 10:58 AM

KaiserSoze said:

AndOne said:

This I agree with, + i thot the original storyline went with Jameson's son going into outer space and getting some alien virus that actually turned him into Venom? I could be wrong with that, but i thot that's how it went. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

this is correct.

jameson went into outerspace and unknowingly brought back the alien symbiote.

i'll get into spoilers here with venom's origin: <table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> the alien symbiote(which resembles a black blob attaches itself to peter parker/spider-man and it turns into his black costume. something like that, it's been awhile since i've read the story arch. anyways, pete notices that the costume starts doing weird stuff and finally realizes his costume is actual a living being. pete wants it off but the alien symbiote won't leave him. peter goes to a bell tower and rings the bell while standing under it...the immense ringing from the bell forces the symbiote to leave pete's body and run away(it apparently doesn't like high pitched sounds.). peter is happy that he's gotten rid of the alien but unknown to him....the symbiote has found a new host who doesn't care for peter parker, fellow reporter eddie brock. the symbiote turns eddie brock into "venom"..one of the most vicious spider-man villains of all time who has a lust to eat spider-man's "brains". http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif </td></tr></table>

whether they to this route in the third movie, who knows. they'd really have to condense the storyline.

That's not how it went. That's how it went in the cartoon that aired on FOX. In the comic, his origin is actually kind of lame. Spiderman went on a spaceship, and there were these devices that automatically created a costume. He used one, because his suit was all ripped up, and out popped the black costume. He wore it for a while, but then disgarded it when he learned it was alive.

It turned out that those were the wrong machines. The machines Spidey went to were actually prison cells, holding alien lifeforms.

So yea, it's a pretty gay origin. They are better off with the cartoon's story.

avatar_58

03-31-2005, 11:20 AM

Lengis said:
So yea, it's a pretty gay origin. They are better off with the cartoon's story.

I never read the comics so I would have to agree with you, the fox show's method is probably the best and fastest way to slide venom in. Perhaps we could also have a scene where the symbiote describes it's home to brock...giving the audience some background.

JackpotDen

03-31-2005, 11:26 AM

avatar_58 said:

Lengis said:
So yea, it's a pretty gay origin. They are better off with the cartoon's story.

I never read the comics so I would have to agree with you, the fox show's method is probably the best and fastest way to slide venom in. Perhaps we could also have a scene where the symbiote describes it's home to brock...giving the audience some background.

I'l love to hear the symbyote

would it be KLILKILKLIlk or a sort of "Hey, joe, another beer here" voice?

KaiserSoze

03-31-2005, 11:02 PM

thanks lengis for the correction!

Syph

04-01-2005, 12:20 AM

I would so much love for it to be Venom. Venom kicks all kinds of ass... Figuratively and literally.

But from the looks of things (If you pay attention to the extras on the DVD's at least) Sandman is mentioned alot and probably is going to be the villain. Which I find sad, because although the sand aspect would make for some cool CG effects, if you search deep down you'll realize you feel that he's a pretty stupid character.

To sum it up, I'd rather see cool alien goo that corrupts it's host and causes insanity. If I wanted to see sand I'd go to the beach.

ExcessiveForce

04-01-2005, 12:56 AM

And the answer is.... bah-bada-DAAAAAHHHH...

Sandman (http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=2781)

hehehe..... too bad it 's only confirmed by spies...

avatar_58

04-01-2005, 07:38 AM

ExcessiveForce said:
And the answer is.... bah-bada-DAAAAAHHHH...

Sandman (http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=2781)

hehehe..... too bad it 's only confirmed by spies...

I'd take that news with a grain of sand if I were you..

Phait

04-04-2005, 07:12 AM

Looks like it might be The Lizard:

At IMDB.com about Spiderman 2 (I just watched it),

The film features two other villains from the comics. John Jameson (son of J. Jonah Jameson) is the Man-Wolf and Dr. Curt Connors (presumably the same 'Dr. Connors" mentioned in the first film that fired Peter for being late too often) is the Lizard. Coincidentally, both are "Jekyll and Hyde" type villains in that they are good people who are transformed periodically against their will into their vicious, animal-like alter-egos.

Bruce Campbell was originally slated to fill the role of Dr. Connors. Consequently, an early draft of the script, with Campbell cast as Dr. Connors, called for the Lizard to make an appearance toward the end of the film, to which Doctor Octopus, knowing that Spider-man is Peter, would have tried to help him subdue the Lizard. That angle was dropped because Raimi, if he is on to direct the next film, plans on using the Lizard as the primary villain (alongside Harry Osborn as the next Green Goblin), and did not want the villain to simply be a minor nuisance. Raimi also knew that most people would immediately recognize Bruce Campbell, and recall his comical performance from the first film as the wrestling promoter, and he did not want Dr. Connors to be a recycled actor.

Michelangelo

04-05-2005, 08:04 AM

thefly said:
I think they's dropped Conners' name in both movies, so I wouldn't be suprised to see the Lizard.

Though, I'm sure we're all waiting for Venom.

But with venom goes the silicates(or whatever they were called) and what about CARNAGE. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Viciarg

04-05-2005, 08:32 PM

Nacho said:
Unfortunately, according to Raimi, this is the last Spiderman. Unless this has changed...

at least both Dunst and Maguire only signed for 3 films and Dunst said in an interview (ca. half a year after the release of Spiderman 1) that she stops play MJ after the third movie. I wouldn't like it if they'd have new actors for Parker and MJ after 3 movies, like they did with Batman.

thefly

04-06-2005, 12:19 AM

Raimi also knew that most people would immediately recognize Bruce Campbell, and recall his comical performance from the first film as the wrestling promoter, and he did not want Dr. Connors to be a recycled actor.

That seems pretty flimsy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Beelze

04-06-2005, 11:23 AM

The Lizard + Man-Wolf = Yum.

... Sandman? Hm, ok.

JackpotDen

04-25-2005, 01:33 PM

Michelangelo said:
But with venom goes the silicates(or whatever they were called) and what about CARNAGE. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

YEAAH!

Kletous Cassidy forever! Venom may be badess, but Carnage is a ***** psycho, and thats what we love.

Drizzle

04-25-2005, 04:06 PM

I wonder if Raimi is steering away from characters that can only be represented with CGI, since they usually turn out looking cheesy. Even though venom or carnage would be sweetness.

avatar_58

04-25-2005, 10:09 PM

Drizzle said:
I wonder if Raimi is steering away from characters that can only be represented with CGI, since they usually turn out looking cheesy. Even though venom or carnage would be sweetness.

Considering how many times spiderman is CG in the movie I doubt it. Besides, since spiderman is seen 50% with his mask off....why not have venom subdue the symbiote face and fight as brock a few times? A black costume isn't hard to do without cgi.