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Joe Siegler

04-09-2008, 08:44 PM

Random Doctor Who picture. That's right - a pink Tardis! :)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2233/pinktardisww0.jpg

Mister_Anderson

04-10-2008, 12:20 AM

But sometimes i just have to Photoshop something.

LOL, nice chop!

I think shes lost a bit of that weight shes carrying in that photo too (probably because of the Who gig) - she seemed a lot leaner in the face in that first ep.

Soulshadow

04-11-2008, 10:07 AM

Random Doctor Who picture. That's right - a pink Tardis! :)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2233/pinktardisww0.jpg

That's the least of his worries, he's being attacked by Toyah clones

Joe Siegler

04-11-2008, 11:18 AM

That's the least of his worries, he's being attacked by Toyah clones

If I were any good at Photoshop, I would have made them Pink Adipose.

Dave-ros

04-11-2008, 11:23 AM

Doctor Who was one of the few things that never scared me as a child -- Toyah Wilcox, however, terrified me with all her punk rock screaming and big hair, to the point that I once panicked when I say "Toyota" on the front of a car :o :insomnia: :p

Joe Siegler

04-11-2008, 05:38 PM

Filming has apparently already started for the Christmas 2008 special.

Found a link with a pic. Also the URL makes it pretty obvious who the main villain is. :)

http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/swanews/display.var.2188951.0.cybermen_invade_newport.php

Dave-ros

04-13-2008, 05:23 PM

Forgot to mention this week's episode, set in pre-destruction Pompeii -- not really spoilers, but a couple of things I noted:

The Doctor mentions having been in Rome before, and says that the fire wasn't his fault... well, maybe a little. No prizes for guessing that he's talking about The Romans, which is a LONG way back! No sign of a randy middle-aged Nero this time :p
The Doctor meets a Pompeiian named Caecilius, his wife Metella and son Quintus. They were actually real Pompeiians (though Caecilius was actually his "middle" name), made famous in this country by being fictionalised in the first book of the Cambridge Latin Course. How do I know? I did it at school... yes, back when the eruption of Vesuvius was still recent news, very funny! :tinyted:

ShakeItBaby

04-14-2008, 02:28 AM

I missed the first half of the Pompeii ep, will have to catch the rest of it on repeats, but it looked fairly enjoyable from what I saw. Next week's Ood trailer looks like Dullsville though.

Mister_Anderson

04-16-2008, 01:28 AM

Loved Pompeii - a definate return to form, though the water pistol bit was abit dodgey.

Next week's Ood trailer looks like Dullsville though.

Thats exactly what I thought....about Pompeiis trailer the week before.

Joe Siegler

04-16-2008, 05:13 PM

http://www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EkplFZZAEuKhNETErv&tmpl=newsrss&style=feedstyle

Pictures of the classic series figures coming out. w00t!

The Doctors look pretty GOOD, actually.

Mountain Man

04-18-2008, 07:32 PM

Just finished watching "The Fires of Pompeii". It was actually pretty damn good! It started out a little slow, but really picked up around the mid-way point. I loved the insight into the Doctor's character, where he's wrestling with the fact that he caused the eruption of Vesuvius and the death of 20-thousand people. I actually had tears in my eyes. Fantastic performances by both Tennant and Tate.

And on that note, I really like the Doctor/Donna combo. It's so refreshing for the Doctor to have a companion who's just his friend again instead of someone who's constantly mooning after him. When she begged him to go back just to save someone was really profound. After last week's paper-thin fluff-fest, it was wonderful to have a story with some genuine depth. Easily one of the best of the new series. The only thing I didn't like was the superfluous sonic screwdriver.

Oh, and I also liked the nod to William Hartnell's "The Romans". :D

Joe Siegler

04-19-2008, 06:41 PM

http://www.sylvestermccoy.com/newdoctorwho/

This starts off sounding real, but ends up sounding like fanwank. Fun read, though.

Dave-ros

04-19-2008, 07:24 PM

The naysayers were wrong, tonight's episode was good -- though early on it reminds me of Revelation of the Daleks, for some reason! Finally it's on another planet that isn't just another version of Earth -- nice alien sky. I told you, all they need to do is find a gravel pit, and instant alien planet :p

Next week features the Sontarans -- that's the source of those eyes in the trailer that some people thought were Davros, so obviously it's not him ;)

Mountain Man

04-19-2008, 08:42 PM

I'm a bit ambivalent about "Planet of the Ood". I didn't dislike it, but I didn't especially like it, either. It had some interesting concepts, and everything was wrapped up nicely in the end, so the plot was constructed well enough, and the Doctor/Donna dynamic has a really nice spark to it, but the execution, for some reason, just felt a bit flat to me. Perhaps it's because they tried to build tension around the fates of the Doctor and Donna when the audience is under no illusion that they're ever going to be seriously injured or killed. Last week's story, the tension was drawn from the characters and the choices they had to make. This week's, well, we know the Ood aren't going to kill them.

So a big sideways thumb from me this week.

Edit: Reading some of the comments at Outpost Gallifrey, I see another reason why the story was a bit "meh" - the Doctor never actually did anything in terms of plot. He was just an observer who had no hand in the resolution of the conflict. The events would have happened just the same whether he was there or not.

Joe Siegler

04-21-2008, 02:50 PM

Edit: Reading some of the comments at Outpost Gallifrey, I see another reason why the story was a bit "meh" - the Doctor never actually did anything in terms of plot. He was just an observer who had no hand in the resolution of the conflict. The events would have happened just the same whether he was there or not.

I dispute that. The ending was very Doctor driven. Overall this comment has merit, but the ending was driven by the Doctor And Donna finding the "virgin" Ood.

I spotted the reference to the 1964 Hartnell story "The Sensorites" immediately. The Simpsons reference was comical.

Donna's hair looked hot. Sue me. :)

Apparently there was a reference to bees in the first episode, and there was another one here. This is probably a reference to the bees episode coming up.

Possible setup for the season finale was in here -the bit about "your song will soon be ending".

This episode LOOKED great. The snow scenes looked awesome. If you read the wikipedia page for this episode, they say very little CGI was actually in the episode, although I have to imagine the wideshots at the start and end were CGI.

The ending FELT good. I liked it a lot.

I still have issues with the Doctor and the Vulcan Mind Meld. This was not the first time it happened (I remember it in Girl in the Fireplace, too), but it still seems odd to me.

As for next week.. What I liked more that the Sontarans were back is that they SOUNDED right. They sounded like old Sontarans, which is important for a race that are all clones of each other. I still wish they'd use Lethbridge-Stewart in some capacity in these UNIT stories.

Dave-ros

04-21-2008, 04:32 PM

Joe Siegler

04-21-2008, 04:35 PM

It would be nice, but Nicholas Courtney is nearly 80, so either he'd have to be in a similar role to William Hartnell in The Three Doctors, or (heresy!) they'd have to get another actor to play him. He still looked fit and healthy in c.1994 when he appeared in More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS!, but I remember seeing him in a making-of show more recently, and he looked very old. Shame -- the Brigadier deserves a final adventure :(

I've seen recent interviews with him. Young he is NOT, but he can be a retired military advisor. He doesn't have to actually DO anything at all. Hartnell in Three Doctors was because he was deathly ill. Courtney's not that bad off.

As I said, he doesn't have to run around and jump, but UNIT could just come to him for advice on something.

Dave-ros

04-21-2008, 04:56 PM

If he's well enough to appear on screen, hopefully he will indeed return -- after all, they brought Sarah-Jane Smith back ;)

Mountain Man

04-21-2008, 10:47 PM

I dispute that. The ending was very Doctor driven. Overall this comment has merit, but the ending was driven by the Doctor And Donna finding the "virgin" Ood.
It rather seemed to me that everything had already been put into place and the Doctor showing up just as the plan was being put into motion was purely coincidental. He didn't start the chain of the events, he just happened to observe the start of the chain of events.

Not a big deal, really, but it does explain why I found the story less than engaging.

Donna's hair looked hot. Sue me. :)
Well, at least we agree on that. She was quite attractive in this story, wasn't she?

As for Nick Courtney, I'd love to see him in Doctor Who again, but it seems we would have heard of it by now if he was going to be, unless he only appears as a cameo and the production team took great pains to keep it a secret.

Joe Siegler

04-22-2008, 10:30 AM

It rather seemed to me that everything had already been put into place and the Doctor showing up just as the plan was being put into motion was purely coincidental. He didn't start the chain of the events, he just happened to observe the start of the chain of events.

I don't dispute that. Colin Baker's Revelation of the Daleks was much the same way, actually (and they both started off with the Tardis in the snow).

Anyway, you're right in that it mostly unfolded without him, but he WAS there in the end. The end result would not have happened if the Doctor hadn't done the "Doctor Donna Friend" thing and "undone" the Ood. Was he involved as he normally is? No, but to say he had NO part is not right.

Well, at least we agree on that. She was quite attractive in this story, wasn't she?

In terms of just raw sex appeal, Catherine Tate doesn't compare to a lot of the companions from the past, but it's not like she's a fug like a lot of people are making her out to be. She does have enormous boobs too, which is always a plus. ;)

As for Nick Courtney, I'd love to see him in Doctor Who again, but it seems we would have heard of it by now if he was going to be, unless he only appears as a cameo and the production team took great pains to keep it a secret.

We didn't know about Rose in Episode 1, so it's possible, but I find it unlikely they'd hide something like that.

Mountain Man

04-22-2008, 02:24 PM

I think we need to start the Catherine Tate Testosterone Club. :love:

Joe Siegler

04-22-2008, 03:00 PM

I think we need to start the Catherine Tate Testosterone Club. :love:

THat already happend on Outpost Gallifrey's forums. That huge boob pic of her was the charter pic.

Mountain Man

04-23-2008, 08:18 AM

:woot:

Joe Siegler

04-23-2008, 09:14 AM

:woot:

It appears to be gone - I just went and lookd. Basically was that big pic of Tate I posted over and over again, along with other shots of her from other things, and general spooging over her. :)

Joe Siegler

04-23-2008, 09:21 AM

Pictures from the filming of the 2008 Christmas Special.

Not really spoilerish.

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?EventId=80814380

Mountain Man

04-23-2008, 07:57 PM

At first I thought that was Tennant in the Edwardian clothing and thought they were changing the Doctor's costume. "Hmmm... they're going back to a classic series look," I thought. Then I looked at the larger image and realized it wasn't Tennant. :doh:

Dave-ros

04-26-2008, 02:24 PM

Missed tonight's episode on TV, so I streamed it from the iPlayer website instead :D

Probably not a secret that the Sontarans are back tonight! Things I noticed:

UNIT now seems to mean "UNified Task Force", although at least they're actually in the show now!
The Doctor says "something" put a "dent" in the 1980s -- perhaps a meta-reference to the show being on hiatus in 1985-6? (Thank you very much Michael Grade :tinyted:)
The Doctor also can't quite remember if he worked with UNIT in the 1970s or the 1980s -- again, could this be a meta-reference to Sarah in Pyramids of Mars saying she was from "1980"?
Two speaking Sontarans -- one sounds like Linx/Styre, while the other, unless my memory's failing, sounds more like the one from The Invasion of Time, so do we have confirmation of the Sontarans having different "castes" (or perhaps "phenotypes" would be a better word)?
SatNavs and catalytic converters are now officially evil :p

Mountain Man

04-26-2008, 09:07 PM

A pretty strong first part I thought. The Sontarans were well realized and faithful to their classic series counterparts, even down to the single occupant spherical ships we saw in the classic series.

I thought David Tennant was quite good in this, very "Doctory". Also, the Doctor/Donna relationship continues to sparkle with a lot of wit and energy.

The family drama bit made me roll my eyes. It's not adding anything new to the characters at this point and comes across as tired and unnecessary.

As for the cliffhanger, why the hell didn't somebody just break the damn window!

Looking forward to next week.

Mister_Anderson

04-27-2008, 03:46 AM

I thought I knew the Sontarans voice, its Mike from the Young Ones! (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article283788.ece)

It was bugging me all episode long. And a good episode it was.

Taril

04-27-2008, 07:43 AM

Dave-ros

04-27-2008, 08:45 AM

^^ Christopher Ryan -- he was also Sil's boss Kiv in The Trial of a Timelord, presumably because he's short, but not as short as Nabil Shaban :p

I also wondered why the Doctor was using the sonic screwdriver to try and open the lock, and not to, oh, I don't know, create resonance in the window and shatter it ;)

Joe Siegler

04-28-2008, 07:54 PM

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Dave-ros

04-29-2008, 02:41 AM

Ah, one of the cute little fat creatures -- did you do that? :D

Joe Siegler

04-29-2008, 02:29 PM

Nah, I found that on the net.

Dave-ros

05-03-2008, 02:51 PM

The Doctor mentioned the Brigadier tonight -- apparently he was stuck in Peru, but otherwise alive!

Next week's going to be weird: apparently the Doctor has a daughter... did he sire her in "Human Nature", or is this going to be Susan's mum? :confused:

Joe Siegler

05-03-2008, 03:20 PM

Next week's going to be weird: apparently the Doctor has a daughter... did he sire her in "Human Nature", or is this going to be Susan's mum? :confused:

You haven't been reading your spoilers, eh?

DNA cloning, apparently. I suspect we'll have a shoutout to Susan

Mountain Man

05-03-2008, 07:55 PM

Well, that was a solid two-parter. I don't suppose it would withstand any sort of critical scrutiny, but it was fun enough that I don't think it matters. Enjoyed the reference to the Brigadier. The "Empty Child/Doctor Dances" reference was cute, too. The UNIT airship looked like its design was ripped straight from Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. Also, did anybody else catch Rose? She was on-screen for a split-second, just before the Doctor started transmitting from the UNIT control room. Pay attention to the TARDIS scanner. Curiously, Billie Piper received a credit at the end for barely a second of screen time.

Scotty

05-03-2008, 08:27 PM

Are you my mummy? lol... :D

Joe Siegler

05-06-2008, 03:58 PM

It was an extremely good Episode 2. Most Episode 2's suck, but this doesn't.

Poison Sky bits:

Are you My Mummy made me laugh out LOUD.

The Airship was the same ship from the Doomsday/Sound of Drums episodes, so that was nice.

Rose's appearance forced a credit scroll where Donna, Martha, & Rose were in there together. Amusing.

Noticed Robert Holmes' name pop up in the credits - nice throwback.

Absolutely loved the shout out to the Brigadier. Would have preferred he like BE there, but you know...

The sfx of the sky in flames was seriously good.

Loved Donna's clonking of the probic vent. That whole bit was nice, including a few new camera angles inside the Tardis - but that's down to a first time Who director, I think.

Other Rose Stuff:

Speaking of Rose, this is now I believe the third time she's been referenced. The first was when she showed up in the first episode, and the other was in the Pompeii episode. The bit where the soothsayer was saying all the "Man of Gallifrey" bit. He mentions "She is returning" to which it prompts the Doctor to say "Who is she?" It was ignored after that. Bet you that's a Rose reference. Also, right after that, he says to Donna "there's something on your back", which if you read some rumors is a reference to the Doctor Lite episode this season.

Future Stuff:

Read a very interesting link today. It has some serious spoilerific stuff regarding the rest of the season, including some possible specific bits about the last couple of minutes of Episode 13 this year, so beware. (Link (http://io9.com/387468/we-ruin-the-endings-of-lost-doctor-who-and-smallville))

Donna Stuff:

For those who didn't like Catherine Tate as the companion in Doctor Who, read this (http://io9.com/387435/doctor-whos-new-girlfriend-gives-good-phone). It's seriously pro Donna, and gives specific examples as to why the most recent episode was the turning point at which this guy wanted to like Donna when he didn't before. Very good read (although he does nitpick it an awful lot) - however, if you haven't seen "The Poison Sky", I recommend skipping it.

Chimera

05-07-2008, 01:22 PM

I'm actually pleasantly surprised by Donna. I was all set to hate her, because she's Catherine Tate. But I'm finding I prefer her to Martha :)

Joe Siegler

05-07-2008, 04:24 PM

Now I can't go that far. Martha is by far the best of the three companions since the show came back.

Mountain Man

05-07-2008, 09:52 PM

Oh, I disagree. I think Donna is fantastic. I love that she's smart, independent, and doesn't take guff from the Doctor. I loved the bit at the beginning of "The Sontaran Stratagem" when the Doctor asked her not to fight with Martha, and Donna is like, "Fight? Over you? Yeah, right!" I've really missed having a platonic relationship in the TARDIS.

Joe Siegler

05-09-2008, 10:21 AM

I mean I understand their point to an extent, but.. Wow.

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/09/bbc-sends-legal-thre.html

Dave-ros

05-09-2008, 11:54 AM

I hate to see overzealous intellectual property law squelch genuine creativity that is trying to bring something new and beautiful into the world for all to enjoy.
Too true. It's the same kind of thinking that leads to DRM treating paying customers like criminals -- "we don't care if you enjoy our intellectual property, we just want exclusive rights to the money!" :doh:

Mountain Man

05-10-2008, 06:48 PM

Can they really do that? Seems to pushing the bounds of copyright law a bit. Might even be a case of fair use, but whose going to fight that legal battle? Certainly not the person who knits for a hobby.

Anyway, tonight's episode was pretty enjoyable. I liked the twist about the war being only 7-days old, and the Doctor's daughter was a cutie! Great, understated performance from David Tennant, too. He really dialed it down this story and only had his trademark manic outbursts when it made sense. A bit predictable about Jenny getting killed and then coming back to life (and I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing her again), but otherwise, this one gets a thumbs up from me.

Now is it me, or has this season been the most consistent since Eccelston filled title role? I thought "Partners in Crime" was a lackluster start, but everything since then has been pretty bang-on solid.

Joe Siegler

05-10-2008, 11:42 PM

In case you didn't know, "Jenny" is Georgia Moffet, daughter of Peter Davison. She also auditioned for the role of Rose when the show restarted too apparently.

Dave-ros

05-11-2008, 05:19 AM

Yes, when she said she wanted to go with the Doctor and see all those other worlds, I immediately thought, "dead!" -- in fact, her shooting almost seemed to be tacked on! And then she regenerated after all, and will doubtless appear later in the season ;)

Chimera

05-11-2008, 05:49 AM

Hmm. Didn't particularly like last night's episode - there was a distinct whiff of Buffy / Mary-Sue about Jenny.

Rather considerate of the clone machine to apply her makeup before letting her out too, death scene overshadowed by eyeliner :D :D :D

Joe Siegler

05-11-2008, 09:42 AM

Hmm. Didn't particularly like last night's episode - there was a distinct whiff of Buffy / Mary-Sue about Jenny.

I can't agree with Mary-Sue. Here in the states, that means the author was trying to insert themselves into the story. This was written by a guy, so I don't buy that.

This was written by the same guy who wrote the worst episode of last year too (The Lazarus Experiment - Blech).

I liked this - it had an ENORMOUS amount of plotholes in it, but I don't have time at the moment to galvanize my thoughts into a forum post - I'll do that later. It's Mother's day here, so if I get busted typing long forum posts today, I'm probably in trouble. :)

One thing though - the shot of the Doctor being followed by three "companions" (Donna, Martha, & Jenny) reminded me of the old days of the series.

Soulshadow

05-12-2008, 03:36 PM

In case you didn't know, "Jenny" is Georgia Moffet, daughter of Peter Davison. She also auditioned for the role of Rose when the show restarted too apparently.

She also went to school with the daughter of Colin Baker, to quote her, "I thought everyone's father was Dr Who when I was young".

Mountain Man

05-12-2008, 09:42 PM

So she's playing a character who is the daughter of a character her father played some 20-years ago.

Dave-ros

05-13-2008, 03:49 PM

And indeed, who was greatly admired in that role by the actor now playing her father, if you remember the Children in Need short ("You were my Doctor!") ;)

Joe Siegler

05-16-2008, 09:38 AM

OH NOES!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/news/080516_news_02

Xonic

05-16-2008, 09:44 AM

OH NOES!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/news/080516_news_02

No! It can't be true! BUT IT IS!

Dave-ros

05-16-2008, 03:01 PM

Bah, we have to wait a week just so we can lose EuroVision again? :tinyted:

Joe Siegler

05-16-2008, 04:08 PM

WHOA! What is this? I was reading about Doctor's Daughter, and had this pointed out. I looked at it, and darned if it wasn't there. At 10:45 into this episode, there's a UNIT logo. See screen grab.

http://forums.3drealms.com/images/jennyunit.jpg

What is that doing there? Why is UNIT out at this colonization site? Is this something hidden like RTD likes to do all the time, or an accident. I can't imagine it's an actual accident seeing how much he hides stuff, though.

Thoughts?

Xonic

05-16-2008, 04:23 PM

Joe Siegler

05-16-2008, 04:28 PM

BTW, here's the review (http://www.kasterborous.com/reviews.asp?id=1574) I was reading which told me about the UNIT thing. Good read.

Dave-ros

05-16-2008, 06:45 PM

Maybe it'll turn out that the Doctor changed history in the Sontaran story, and UNIT will now be the driving force behind mankind's colonisation of the Universe? Hmm...

Mountain Man

05-17-2008, 09:04 PM

Another decent adventure tonight. Not a story that will withstand a lot of analysis, I imagine, but good fun nonetheless. Had a nice "classic" vibe to it.

Edit: Stumbled across the attached image in Google and thought it was pretty funny.

Dave-ros

05-18-2008, 04:27 AM

Hmm... I spotted someone missing early in that list, because I'm incredibly sad :p

Last night's episode featured some blatant references to Cluedo -- or "Clue" if you're American and thus can't stand to have the same name for something as us Limeys ;)

Mountain Man

05-18-2008, 08:02 AM

Barbara is missing, isn't she? But I suppose it could be argued that she wasn't ever really a "Doctor girl", given her independence and affection for Ian.

Now we're both incredibly sad. :(

sirlemonhead

05-18-2008, 08:53 AM

Decent episode last night? no, it was god awful :\ two stinkers in a row now.

Joe Siegler

05-18-2008, 09:15 PM

Decent episode last night? no, it was god awful :\ two stinkers in a row now.

Bzzzt. Wrong. Two awesome in a row. Thank you, drive through. :)

Seriously, I rather liked it. But I'm about to go watch a movie with my wife, and I don't have a ton of time to tell you why.

And yeah, Barbara is missing, as far as I can tell. That person has other cool Dr Who art here (http://mimi-na.deviantart.com/gallery/#Doctor-Who), which includes a newer version of that pic to include post Rose companions, a "Doctor's Boys", and other cool Who art.

sirlemonhead

05-19-2008, 12:20 PM

Joe Siegler

05-20-2008, 06:03 AM

ooh hit a nerve did I? :P

Fair enough. I just felt the writing was incredibly lazy, the story was too far beyond ridiculous (giant wasp was incredibly lame) the charades scene was cringeworthy. etc etc

Starting to grow tired of the "ooh it you! its her! I love such and such a piece of work you wrote/stared in/performed...ooh no wait! you haven't done that yet!"

it's too formulaic :p

edit: The special effects seem to be getting progressively worse throughout the series also..they seemed to have blown all their budget on the first few episodes

Man, you just WANT to not like it, do you? "It hasn't happened yet" - uh, it's a time travel show. That's going to happen.

Charades scene is actually a repeat - they did it in Tennant's first episode with Rose's mum, too. And cringeworthy - I don't think so. Rather enjoyed it.

Me thinks you're just looking for stuff to nitpick - just say "I don't like it" and be done with it.

Chimera

05-20-2008, 12:13 PM

hmmm.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7411177.stm

Joe Siegler

05-20-2008, 12:17 PM

Was just coming to post about that. Probably a good idea for a change every few years or so.

RTD has been fantastic as the guy who has controlled the overall direction of the show. He hasn't been the greatest writer, though. My guess is he still writes an episode or two here and there.

------

Russell T Davies is out after the 2009 specials. He will be replaced by Stephen (Blink) Moffat when the show returns for a full series in 2010.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/news/080520_news_01

http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?id=1579

http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?id=1580

http://www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EkEEkAyuFuDUQWwpTO&tmpl=newsrss&style=feedstyle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/05_may/20/who.shtml

From one of the press releases:

From the bbc press release... "Doctor Who will return in 2009 with four specials" That must be the three specials and Christmas 2009.

:woot:

sirlemonhead

05-20-2008, 12:25 PM

Me thinks you're just looking for stuff to nitpick - just say "I don't like it" and be done with it.

More a case that I wanted to state my reasons, rather than be one of those people who just says "it sucks"

Joe Siegler

05-20-2008, 12:40 PM

Your reasons suck. ;)

/me laughs. :)

Joel

05-21-2008, 09:36 AM

I support the show's move forward with the change of producer. While RTD has been nothing short of instrumental in brining the show back and widening the level of appeal it now has, I think it's time for some new ideas. I've noticed some concepts are beginning to repeat themselves. The alien invasions, the historic episodes, the Doctor-lite episodes, the Psychological episodes...while those are all great, the show can only recycle those ideas so many times until it ends up in the state that it did in the late 1980's.

I think JJ Abrahams expressed similiar sentements for Star Trek, describing it as a shark that didn't move which ultimately contributed toward its current inert state. I can't wait to see what Moffat brings to the table, "Blink" is one of my favourite episodes of the entire series. I predict that we'll see less of the corny, campy humour we have occassionally been subjected to (ie: a dump master eating Micky, farting Aliens masquerading as politicans and taking over 10 Downing Street, an Absorbalon etc....). Instead, i'm hoping for slightly darker, more serious stories that will make us think and really challenge the audience while also tapping into our emotions in the way that we react and relate to the characters.

Once again, this is not to say RTD hasn't served the series well, quite the contrary. However, RTD over the last couple of years has developed some trends which are becoming slightly more noticable with each passing year. RTD (in my opinion) departs the show at the peak of his form and will thus be remembered as a Classic Contributer.

Thanks, RTD, it's been great! :D

Joe Siegler

05-21-2008, 09:37 AM

Well, Doctor Lite is a function of production. They do that to alleviate the production time needed to make the Christmas episode - or so they say.

Joel

05-21-2008, 09:43 AM

Joe Siegler

05-21-2008, 10:16 AM

That's true, I remember reading that somewhere now. I think it was just an interview with RTD in S2. It certainly rings a bell. Blink was clearly the better of the two (so far). The third one sounds pretty darn cool. I won't say much, but it's meant to involve the rescue of our hero with a few cat fights along the way ;)

Dude, read the rest of the thread. Spoilers are used little around here. There's a reason I have such a huge, obnoxious message in red in the first post of the thread.

The episode you're talking about is called 'Turn Left', I believe.

Joel

05-22-2008, 06:27 AM

My apologies to Joe and other readers of this thread. That's my fault for not reading the whole thread. No hard feelings?

Joe Siegler

05-22-2008, 09:33 AM

There's nothing to apologize for. Just telling you didn't need to use spoilers. :)

Mountain Man

05-22-2008, 02:10 PM

Russell T Davies is out after the 2009 specials. He will be replaced by Stephen (Blink) Moffat when the show returns for a full series in 2010.
Cool. I haven't been much impressed with RTD past the first season. He's written the occasional good episode ("End of the World" and "Gridlock" being two of my favorites), but he's pretty hit-and-miss as a writer--mostly miss in my opinion (I thought this season's opener "Partners in Crime" was fairly weak, and then there's "Love & Monsters". :mryuck:). That said, I think the general direction of the show under his guidance has been fairly strong, but some fresh idea are welcome.

It'll be interesting to see what Mr. Moffat brings to the table. We know he can write a cracking script, but I wonder how he will handle the duties of head producer?

Joe Siegler

05-23-2008, 10:58 AM

I still maintain RTD is a fantastic producer. He's great for the overall direction of the show. I doubt we'd be getting all the throwbacks to the classic series that we do if he wasn't there.

Not their best actual writer as such, though.

But yeah, as much as I like RTD, I think after what amounts to five series of Dr Who (four full series, plus if you add all the specials and extra bits, that's about another half a season), it might be time for new ideas.

John Nathan Turner was like that. Had some great ideas, but he was forced by the BBC to stay there way longer than he should. Ran out of gas at the end, although - the final series of the classic show was way better than the 3 or 4 that preceded it. Shame that they figured out how to do it right again in the final series. Curse of Fenric is an all time classic Who story.

Mountain Man

05-23-2008, 10:57 PM

Yeah, he's had a pretty solid run as producer, so he definitely deserves credit there.

Dave-ros

05-24-2008, 11:35 AM

Could someone explain to me why the Beeb needed to postpone Doctor Who this week, when they've got time for an hour-long Weakest Link "special"? :tinyted:

Joe Siegler

05-24-2008, 11:43 AM

Could someone explain to me why the Beeb needed to postpone Doctor Who this week, when they've got time for an hour-long Weakest Link "special"? :tinyted:

They did the same thing last year, too. Don't recall why they said last year what the reason was, either.

Scotty

05-24-2008, 11:58 AM

...but do we get two episodes back-to-back next week to make up for it?

Dave-ros

05-24-2008, 12:24 PM

Doubtful. They show the following week's Torchwood on BBC3 after "this week's" episode, but they don't do the same with our favourite Time Lord :tinyted:

Oh well, this week I'll just have to watch Rebuild of Evangelion instead. What a hard life :p

Joe Siegler

05-24-2008, 09:24 PM

You guys catch the trailer for the rest of the series of Dr Who tonight? This was the "make up" for being postponed a week. They did the same thing last year, too.

Anyway, Dave-ros - you of all people should have enjoyed this one. :)

Joe Siegler

05-24-2008, 10:01 PM

...but do we get two episodes back-to-back next week to make up for it?

No, just a week delay. They did air a one minute trailer today for the remainder of the season. Looks badass. :)

Scotty

05-24-2008, 10:30 PM

Dave-ros

05-25-2008, 04:24 AM

Didn't see it before, Joe, but it looks good! Probably missed it because I was avoiding BBC1 entirely last night, with a big :tinyted: expression on my face due to Doctor Who being postponed. And then I watched Rebuild of Evangelion while pigging out, and forgot my troubles :p

Joe Siegler

05-25-2008, 08:28 AM

Also, check out the official site. They have a "book" graphic up since next week's episode is part 1 of 2 which takes place mostly in a library. Check out some of the book titles. Can anyone make out more than what I've noticed?

"Monty Python's Big Red Book" (Duh)
"A Journal of Impossible Things" (sounds familiar, can't place it)
"The French Revolution" (reference to first ever Dr Who episode)
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" (Duh 2)
"Origins of the Universe" (probably not a specific reference)
"Everest in Easy Stages" (probably not a specific reference)
"Type 40 TT Capsule Operation Manual" (Tardis reference manual)
"Bridget Jones's Diary" (someone must like Bridget Jones)
"Black Orchid" (reference to Davison story; DVD released Apr 14)
"Understanding Telebiogenesis" (sounds like a word we've heard on who before)

That above is all from the opening graphic (before words slide on top of most of that). If you go into the section for this specific episode, they show the Doctor's face in front of a lot of books. It appears to be a repeat of the group listed above.

Anyone find anything I didn't?

Dave-ros

05-25-2008, 08:33 AM

"A Journal of Impossible Things" was John Smith's jottings of his hazy Doctor memories, and I imagine "Everest in Easy Stages" is a direct reference to the book he was "hilariously" reading in The Creature from the Pit ;)

Mountain Man

05-26-2008, 07:55 AM

Took a look at the trailer. Interesting. They're really making the return of Rose out to be some huge television event. It troubles me slightly that a companion almost overshadows the Doctor.

That said, I rather liked how she was portrayed in the trailer. She seemed confident and dead serious which is a welcome improvement from the bitchy and arrogant Series 2 Rose.

Joe Siegler

05-26-2008, 10:18 AM

Random geek stuff I just read.

Episode 10 of the current series will star David Troughton, son of Second doctor Patrick Troughton. That's not the first time he's been in the show, he's been in two (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enemy_of_the_World) stories (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Games) with his dad, and one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curse_of_Peladon) by third Doctor Jon Pertwee before.

And, as an added piece of geeky flavor.. The woman directing the episode is Alice Troughton. :)

Joe Siegler

05-26-2008, 03:46 PM

Haven't done this in awhile. A list of my Doctor Who DVD's:

Doctor Who DVD's:

William Hartnell:
Lost in Time
Unearthly Child
The Daleks
The Edge of Destruction
The Aztecs
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Web Planet

Patrick Troughton:
Lost in Time
Tomb of the Cybermen
The Mind Robber
The Invasion
The Seeds of Death

Jon Pertwee:
The Three Doctors

Tom Baker:
Genesis of the Daleks
The Pirate Planet
Destiny of the Daleks
The Keeper of Traken
Logopolis

Peter Davison:
Castrovalva
Earthshock
Time-Flight
Arc of Infinity
The Five Doctors
Resurrection of the Daleks
The Caves of Androzani

Colin Baker:
Vengeance on Varos
The Mark of the Rani
The Two Doctors
Revelation of the Daleks

Sylvester McCoy:
Remembrance of the Daleks
The Curse of Fenric

Paul McGann:
Doctor Who: The Movie (PAL)

Christopher Eccleston:
The Complete First Series

David Tennant:
The Complete Second Series
The Complete Third Series
The Infinite Quest (PAL)

On Order:
Warriors of the Deep (Davison)
Black Orchid (Davison)
The Invasion of Time (T Baker)
The Time Meddler (Hartnell)

Dave-ros

05-26-2008, 05:06 PM

I haven't got many -- not had the urge to replace my entire VHS collection (especially all the Pertwee stories I recorded!) -- but I have:

- Lost in Time :D
- The Tomb of the Cybermen (got that in a late-night visit to HMV)
- The Invasion
- The Five Doctors (first one I got)
- Resurrection of the Daleks
- Remembrance of the Daleks (I was duped into buying the original R2 release with missing special effects :tinyted:)
- The two Peter Cushing movies ;)

Joe Siegler

05-27-2008, 09:15 AM

Five Doctors was my first one, too. You see they're issuing a 25th anniversary edition later this year? They said they wanted to do that, since Five Doctors WAS the first DVD they released, and they felt it could do with an update since they've learned a lot since then.

Dave-ros

05-27-2008, 06:07 PM

Yes, that DVD was a bit bland, and the tunes provided as an extra were (they admit) at the wrong speed, so a new DVD version would be cool... do you think they'll mess with the editing and SFX again, or stick with the 1994 version? Come to think of it, is the original DVD version the same as the 1994 VHS version?

Joe Siegler

05-28-2008, 09:35 AM

I think I read where the 25th anniv version will have both of them on there with seamless branching, I believe.

Edit: See for yourself (http://www.purpleville.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rtwebsite/TheFiveDoctorsRedux.htm). :)

Joe Siegler

05-30-2008, 09:22 AM

Read online today that the rumored title of Episode 12 is War on Skaro

Dave-ros

05-30-2008, 10:04 AM

I've now seen the Dalek/Darkness/Rose coming back trailer on TV... is it my imagination, or are they at least trying to imply that Davros is coming back? Or is that just another Dalek in the dark corridor, possibly even the one from "Dalek"?

Joe Siegler

05-30-2008, 11:43 AM

Dave-ros

05-30-2008, 05:02 PM

I hear they're releasing a Davros toy, so you could be right... though you probably heard it officially anyway :p

Of course, now that's spoiled it for me -- the Master coming back was a nice surprise (at least it was for me), but now we know Davros is returning, I'll just be waiting for it :o

Mountain Man

05-31-2008, 08:25 PM

Pretty intense episode tonight. Stephen Moffat's usual brilliance. The cliffhanger caught me off guard. I was so caught up in the episode that I hadn't realized it was 45-minutes later.

I tell you, if Moff is able to deliver this kind of quality every week as head writer, we're going to be in for one hell of a treat!

Joe Siegler

05-31-2008, 11:53 PM

Yeah, but it can't be 13 episodes a year of Blink / Library. :) But point taken on quality.

The major question is who the frig is the archaeologist. I have several theories about it. My intial thoughts probably are NOT correct, those being the Rani or Romana. I now think it's possibly

The little girl herself from another time frame, Rose, or possibly the blonde who was hanging out with the Master in last season's finale. Although it will probably just end up being some non descript "future girlfriend" or something like that.

I really REALLY loved the dig at the Internet and spoilers and finding out everything ahead of time. Was right at the start when they mentioned Monty Python. :)

I'll have more thoughts later - I'm off to watch Confidential.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/medialibrary/images/art/s4_08_gra_03.jpg

Also, is it just me, or did this logo remind anyone else of the Bioshock logo? :)

Dave-ros

06-01-2008, 04:17 AM

No, the letters aren't embossed and casting a shadow :p

Wonder if that archaeologist will turn out to be
the Doctor's daughter from that earlier episode, a few regenerations along and no longer able to remember her origin?

I also note that the Doctor's claim here that he "points at archaeologists and laughs" contrasts a bit with The Tomb of the Cybermen:
"He's got archaeologist written all over him!"
"Really, does it show?"

RedSplat

06-01-2008, 06:04 AM

Also, is it just me, or did this logo remind anyone else of the Bioshock logo? :)

It just has the same signature 1930's style.
Just like the Tardis, Cybermen, Daleks and lots of decors/sets.
Art Deco is pretty prominent in many Doctor Who and Torchwood episodes.
The production designer must really like the period. :)

Mountain Man

06-01-2008, 05:06 PM

Yeah, but it can't be 13 episodes a year of Blink / Library. :) But point taken on quality.
Well, yeah, I'm not saying I want every episode to be exactly the same in tone and content. I just like the overall quality of Moffat's stories.

As for the little girl in the story, I have a hunch that she's AI "living" in the computer. That's why she saw things through the security camera and showed up on the terminal the Doctor was using. Also the message "4000 lost, 4000 saved" (or whatever it was). "Saved" as in saved to a hard drive (remember the Doctor mentioning something about the library being the largest hard drive in the universe). Oh, and I almost forgot: there's the scene where the psychiatrist tells her that the world she knows is a lie and that the nightmare world (the library) is real.

Whatever the case, knowing Moffat, everything will make perfect sense in the end.

Joe Siegler

06-01-2008, 07:31 PM

I'm actually far more interested in who Dr what's her face is. The woman who called the Doctor "Pretty Boy". I almost wish they hadn't have done that, it SO attracted me, I have to confess to almost not caring what the outcome of the main story is, I just want to know what the deal with her is.

Mountain Man

06-01-2008, 10:23 PM

Well, based on the information we've been given, it can't be somebody the audience knows about because the Doctor has never met her in his timeline, or so she says, but I suppose she could be lying. But then there's the possibility that the Doctor does know who she is and he's the one lying, which was a theme in this story (he lied to Donna twice, once about why they went to the library in the first place and again when he told her that they'd be alright without space suits).

Whatever... we'll find out in week. :)

Joe Siegler

06-01-2008, 11:36 PM

we'll find out in week.

That's the annoying part. don't want to wait that long.

Dave-ros

06-02-2008, 05:10 PM

Actually seems a bit like something between The Matrix and Star Trek: The Motion Picture, where V'Ger zaps things and turns them into information. So they're all perfectly safe, digitised in the computer, but it seems like a self-contained world within... maybe that girl's in a book about the early 21st century, and the black guy is Morpheus :p

Joe Siegler

06-04-2008, 04:16 PM

Both here, and on other forums there's been a lot of talk about how the modern Doctor Who spends all of its time on Earth. While I know the new show spends a lot of time on Earth, I decided to look into it, and see what the deal really is.

Turns out that while the modern show does spend a lot of time here, it's not all on Earth, and going into the show's past, a lot of of time was spent on Earth there, too. I've always said that plotwise it makes sense for the Doctor to be around Earth a lot since the revival. He's always said Earth is one of his favorite planets, and with his own gone, he might be inclined to have Earth as a "new" or "adopted home". Reality wise, RTD has said it's due to money, it's cheaper to do Earth than new plants.

First off, here's a few notes about my research before I post the numbers and details:

I counted Earth's Moon, or "Spaceship Orbiting Earth" as Earth, since the planet is always referenced. Might as well be a base station on Earth that way.
I counted Shada as a story in this.
I know Season 23 is "technically" one story, but I counted it in its four parts, like most everyone did/does.
Likewise, I counted Ravalox as Earth due to plot events in the first story of Series 23.
I tacked on the Children in Need & Christmas Specials to the seasons they were most revelant in going with from Series 27 through 30.
I do not know where the final story (last two episodes) of Series 30 take place yet. There's three unaired episodes I know the locations of, but not the final two. Can't properly count Series 30 yet. The two 5's should have a question mark, but Excel can't count those cels that way. :)
My count of stories doesn't match the official count because of Trial of a Time Lord, plus I was counting the Christmas Specials and the Children in Need specials as "stories".
The Earth and Unknown/Other counts don't always match up because there are many stories that take place on Earth and somewhere else. When that happened, I counted in both columns.
The modern series planets "New Earth" and "Alternate Universe Earth" were not counted as "Earth".

Having said all that, here's what I turned up:

Total stories: 204
Stories on Earth: 123
Stories elsewhere: 99

The most concentrated times on Earth are the revival (although Series 30 is about half and half right now of the known locations), and Jon Pertwee's first three series, when the Doctor was exiled to Earth. Below are my individual breakdown of stories and the locations they took place. Also attached to this message is a spreadsheet showing the breakdown by series and by location.

Yes. Yes I'm a dork. Thank you. :)

Series 1:

An Unearthly Child: Earth
The Daleks: Skaro
The Edge of Destruction: Tardis Interior
Marco Polo: Earth
The Keys of Marinus: Marinus
The Aztecs: Earth
The Sensorites: Sense-Sphere
The Reign of Terror: Earth

Series 2:

Planet of Giants: Earth
The Dalek Invasion of Earth: Earth
The Rescue: Unnamed Planet
The Romans: Earth
The Web Planet: Vortis
The Crusade: Earth
The Space Museum: Xeros
The Chase: Earth & Mechanus
The Time Meddler: Earth

Series 3:

Galaxy 4: Unnamed planet
Mission to the Unknown: Kembel
The Myth Makers: Earth
The Daleks' Master Plan: Kembel, Earth
The Massacre: Earth
The Ark: Spaceship
The Celestial Toymaker: Unknown location
The Gunfighters: Earth
The Savages: Unnamed planet
The War Machines: Earth

Series 4:

The Smugglers: Earth
The Tenth Planet: Earth
The Power of the Daleks: Vulcan
The Highlanders: Earth
The Underwater Menace: Earth
The Moonbase: Earth's Moon
The Macra Terror: Unnamed planet
The Faceless Ones: Earth
The Evil of the Daleks: Earth

Series 5:

The Tomb of the Cybermen: Telos
The Abominable Snowmen: Earth
The Ice Warriors: Earth
The Enemy of the World: Earth
The Web of Fear: Earth
Fury From the Deep: Earth
The Wheel in Space: Space Station

Series 6:

The Dominators: Dulkis
The Mind Robber: Unknown location
The Invasion: Earth
The Krotons: Unnamed planet
The Seeds of Death: Earth, Earth's Moon
The Space Pirates: Space Station, Planet Ta
The War Games: Earth?, Gallifrey

Series 7:

Spearhead from Space: Earth
Doctor Who & the Silurians: Earth
The Ambassadors of Death: Earth
Inferno: Earth

Series 8:

Terror of the Autons: Earth
The Mind of Evil: Earth
The Claws of Axos: Earth
Colony in Space: Uxarieus
The Daemons: Earth

Series 9:

Day of the Daleks: Earth
The Curse of Peladon: Peladon
The Sea Devils: Earth
The Mutants: Solos
The Time Monster: Earth

Series 10:

The Three Doctors: Earth, Gallifrey, Black Hole
Carnival of Monsters: Earth (I think)
Frontier in Space: Spaceship, Earth, Draconia
Planet of the Daleks: Spiridon
The Green Death: Earth

Series 11:

The Time Warrior: Earth
Invasion of the Dinosaurs: Earth
Death to the Daleks: Exxilon
The Monster of Peladon: Earth
Planet of the Spiders: Metebelis III, Earth

Series 12:

Robot: Earth
The Ark in Space: Spacestation Nerva orbiting Earth
The Sontaran Experiment: Earth
Genesis of the Daleks: Skaro
Revenge of the Cybermen: Spacestation Nerva orbiting Earth

Series 13:

Terror of the Zygons: Earth
Planet of Evil: Zeta Minor
Pyramids of Mars: Earth
The Android Invasion: Earth
The Brain of Morbius: Karn
The Seeds of Doom: Earth

Series 14:

The Masque of Mandragora: Earth
The Hand of Fear: Earth, Kastria
The Deadly Assassin: Gallifrey
The Face of Evil: Unnamed planet
The Robots of Death: Unnamed planet
The Talons of Weng-Chiang: Earth

Series 15:

The Horror of Fang Rock: Earth
The Invisible Enemy: Titan Base Space Station
Image of the Fendahl: Earth
The Sun Makers: Pluto
Underworld: Spaceship, P7E Planetoid
The Invasion of Time: Gallifrey, Tardis Interior

Series 16:

The Ribos Operation: Ribos
The Pirate Planet: Calufrax, Zanak
The Stones of Blood: Earth
The Androids of Tara: Tara
The Power of Kroll: Moon of planet Delta Magna
The Armageddon Factor: Atrios

Series 17:

Destiny of the Daleks: Skaro
City of Death: Earth
The Creature from the Pit: Chloris
Nightmare of Eden: Spaceships
The Horns of Nimon: Spaceship, Skonnos
Shada: Earth, Shada

Series 18:

The Leisure Hive: Earth, Argolis
Meglos: Tigella, Zolfa-Thura
Full Circle: Alzarius (E-Space)
State of Decay: Unnamed planet (E-Space)
Warrior's Gate: Unknown location (E-Space)
The Keeper of Traken: Traken
Logopolis: Logopolis, Earth

Series 19:

Castrovalva: Earth, Tardis Interior, Castrovalva
Four to Doomsday: Spaceship
Kinda: Deva Loka
The Visitation: Earth
Black Orchid: Earth
Earthshock: Spaceship
Time-Flight: Earth

Series 20:

Arc of Infinity: Gallifrey, Earth
Snakedance: Manussa
Mawdryn Undead: Earth, Spaceship
Terminus: Spaceship
Enlightenment: Various Spaceships
The King's Demons: Earth
The Five Doctors: Earth, Gallifrey

Series 21:

Warriors of the Deep: Earth
The Awakening: Earth
Frontios: Frontios
Resurrection of the Daleks: Earth, Dalek Spaceship
Planet of Fire: Earth, Sarn
The Caves of Androzani: Androzani Minor, Androzani Major
The Twin Dilemma: Titan 3

Series 22:

Attack of the Cybermen: Earth, Telos
Vengeance on Varos: Varos
The Mark of the Rani: Earth
The Two Doctors: Space Station Camera, Earth
Timelash: Earth, Karfel
Revelation of the Daleks: Necros

Series 23:

The Mysterious Planet: Time Lord Spaceship, Ravalox (Earth)
Mindwarp: Time Lord Spaceship, Thoros Beta
Terror of the Vervoids: Time Lord Spaceship, Spaceship Hyperion III
The Ultimate Foe: Time Lord Spaceship

Series 24:

Time & the Rani: Lakertya
Paradise Towers: Earth
Delta & The Bannermen: Unnamed planet, Navarino Spaceport, Earth
Dragonfire: Svartos

Series 25:

Remembrance of the Daleks: Earth
The Happiness Patrol: Terra Alpha
Silver Nemesis: Earth
The Greatest Show in the Galaxy: Segonax

Series 26:

Battlefield: Earth
Ghost Light: Earth
The Curse of Fenric: Earth
Survival: Earth, Cheetah Planet

1996 TV Movie: Earth

Series 27:

Rose: Earth
The End of the World: Platform One, orbiting Earth
The Unquiet Dead: Earth
Aliens of London: Earth
World War III: Earth
Dalek: Earth
The Long Game: Satellite 5, orbiting Earth
Father's Day: Earth
The Empty Child: Earth
The Doctor Dances: Earth
Boom Town: Earth
Bad Wolf: Satellite 5, orbiting Earth
The Parting of the Ways: Satellite 5, orbiting Earth, Earth, Dalek Spaceship
Children in Need: Tardis Interior

Series 28:

The Christmas Invasion: Earth
New Earth: New Earth
Tooth & Claw: Earth
School Reunion: Earth
Girl in the Fireplace: Spaceship, Earth
Rise of the Cybermen: Alternate Universe Earth
The Age of Steel: Alternate Universe Earth
The Idiot's Lantern: Earth
The Impossible Planet: Krop Tor
The Satan Pit: Krop Tor
Love & Monsters: Earth
Fear Her: Earth
Army of Ghosts: Earth
Doomsday: Earth

Series 29:

The Runaway Bride: Earth
Smith & Jones: Earth, Earth's Moon
The Shakespeare Code: Earth
Gridlock: New Earth
Daleks in Manhattan: Earth
Evolution of the Daleks: Earth
The Lazarus Experiment: Earth
42: Space Station
Human Nature: Earth
The Family of Blood: Earth
Blink: Earth
Utopia: Earth, Malcassairo
The Sound of Drums: Earth
Last of the Time Lords: Earth
Time Crash: Tardis Interior

Series 30:

Voyage of the Damned: Spaceship Titanic, Earth
Partners in Crime: Earth
The Fires of Pompeii: Earth
Planet of the Ood: Ood-Sphere
The Sontaran Stratagem: Earth
The Poison Sky: Earth
The Doctor's Daughter: Messaline
The Unicorn & The Wasp: Earth
Silence in the Library: "The Library" (planet)
Forest of the Dead: "The Library" (planet)
Midnight: Midnight
Turn Left: "Chino-planet of Shan Shen"
TBA: ???
Journey's End: ???

Dave-ros

06-04-2008, 04:45 PM

Joe Siegler

06-04-2008, 10:21 PM

Good work, very thorough! However, I've noticed a couple of minor omissions (don't know if this was intentional on your part) -- e.g. The Chase also happens on Aridius, The Daleks' Master Plan has sections on Desperus and Mira, and The Evil of the Daleks involves Skaro in the last couple of episodes. I didn't realise Paradise Towers was on Earth, though -- I always thought it was some colony planet!

Yeah, when I hit the Chase, I didn't have the time to go through every segment of that looking for another planet. However, the numbers were counted as Earth, Not Earth, or both. Having more planets on the Chase won't affect the numbers, just the listing. Paradise Towers is supposed to be Earth - I can't find definitive answers on it, but my research implied it was there, so I went with it in the absence of any definitive answer. I didn't remember Evil being on Skaro, althouh you're probably right.

I'm pretty sure Carnival of Monsters isn't set on Earth (though it's recreated within the Miniscope), and at least some of Pyramids of Mars happens on, er, Mars -- and the first two episodes of Earthshock are on Earth, which skews it back in Earth's favour a bit again... not to do down your excellent work, though ;)

I thought Earthshock was totally on the ship. You sure? Yeah, Carninval of Monsters was in the scope, and the planet where the scope was was not named, which is why I had "I think" on that one.

Joe Siegler

06-05-2008, 09:21 AM

20 Ways to improve Doctor Who:

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/63759/20_ways_to_improve_doctor_who.html

Dave-ros

06-05-2008, 11:25 AM

Yup, Earthshock starts out on Earth, with the Doctor and all those troopers fighting Raston-esque robots in caves full of dinosaur bones, and trying to defuse a Cyberbomb. They only arrive on the ship at the end of episode 2 -- and Beryl Reid (who plays the captain) was famous at the time for things like the kids' show Get Up & Go!, where she was considerably nicer :p
13: Bring back the Brig
He's been mentioned this season, so unless Courtney is too ill to be in next season, you never know................

Mountain Man

06-05-2008, 08:27 PM

20 Ways to improve Doctor Who:

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/63759/20_ways_to_improve_doctor_who.html
Interesting list. The only one I strongly agreed with was "17: Stop templating good ideas."

Joe Siegler

06-05-2008, 08:49 PM

You mean like "Threaten Earth in your season finale plot?" :)

Mountain Man

06-06-2008, 05:59 AM

Yeah, something like that. Or the article's example of Donna getting weepy over everything which works as a dramatic counter-point if used sparingly but becomes a bit nauseating when used frequently.

On an unrelated topic, check out these awesome cakes my wife stumbled across:

http://www.coolest-birthday-cakes.com/dr-who-cake.html#c1

Mountain Man

06-08-2008, 02:21 PM

Not a bad two-parter this time around. A little weak by Moffat's standards, though, simply because I found much of it predictable (with one or two exceptions) when Moffat in the past has kept me guessing until the very end. Seemed that part 1 was all set-up, and part 2 just ran with it without really introducing anything new to the story. Not that it wasn't an enjoyable two episodes, but it seemed fairly routine all things considered.

And it turns out Joe was right. Doctor Riversong was just some person from the Doctor's future, though I wonder if we'll see her again before Tennant retires from the series. And the part where Donna just missed meeting up again with the love of her life kills me. Why couldn't Moffat let her have a happy ending, dammit!

GordoSan

06-08-2008, 05:07 PM

Personally I thought the library was brilliant - Close to blink and the empty child - I hope Moffat can deliver more like this.

Joe Siegler

06-14-2008, 02:17 AM

Personally I thought the library was brilliant - Close to blink and the empty child - I hope Moffat can deliver more like this.

I'm more interested in what Moffatt will do to the other writers than his own stuff.

Also, found some pics online. Could be serious spoilers for the last two episodes if you didn't know. But if you want to know - check 'em out. Really high quality stuff, if they're real.

http://www.siegler.net/images/whospoiler1.jpg
http://www.siegler.net/images/whospoiler2.jpg

Dave-ros

06-14-2008, 03:41 AM

Speculation is, of course, rife at a certain Wikipedia talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Davros) :hhg:

Mountain Man

06-14-2008, 08:20 PM

RTD wrote tonight's episode. It was really brilliant, riveting stuff for the first 40-minutes, and I was convinced that Davies had written the best episode of Doctor Who ever, then it suddenly went flat. The Doctor possessed scene went on way too long to the point that it became boring, and the ending was a bit predictable, which was disappointing for what up to that point had been an unpredictable, edge-of-your-seat story. However, the closing scene was actually quite good in how it conveyed how deeply the experience had affected the Doctor.

Dave-ros

06-15-2008, 04:09 AM

Yeah, I have to admit, it ended all of a sudden for me -- I was expecting more, but then, suddenly, it's all over with an act of self-sacrifice! It was, however, interesting how the "panicky idiots" start convincing themselves they saw something pass between the Doctor and the possessed woman ;)

I'm sure everyone noticed
Rose on a screen behind the Doctor, screaming at him :eek:

Mountain Man

06-15-2008, 07:39 AM

Re. your spoiler, how could anybody have not seen it?

I also found out reading the Outpost Gallifrey forums that the child of a former Doctor also appeared in this story. The character of the professor was played by Patrick Troughton's son. And you know, in a wig and the hobo outfit, he could probably do a passable 2nd Doctor impersonation. Now wouldn't that make for an interesting two Doctors story.

Joe Siegler

06-15-2008, 10:33 AM

I also found out reading the Outpost Gallifrey forums that the child of a former Doctor also appeared in this story. The character of the professor was played by Patrick Troughton's son. And you know, in a wig and the hobo outfit, he could probably do a passable 2nd Doctor impersonation. Now wouldn't that make for an interesting two Doctors story.

That's not new, I'm sure I mentioned this earlier up in the thread. :)

On top of that, the episode was directed by "Alice Troughton". No relation, though.

Joe Siegler

06-21-2008, 05:02 PM

About the "Turn Left" Episode.. This will probably be one of htose ones I like better once the season is over and I rewatch. Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed Turn Left. Was a lot of fun, especially reliving some recent episode events from a different point of view.

HOWEVER - THE BLOODY TRAILER FOR NEXT WEEK! - It seemed more exciting than the episode! It was a rapid fire succession of images. here's what's in there:

Rose
Doctor
Donna
Martha
Capt Jack
Ianto & Gwen
Rose's Mum & Granddad
Sarah Jane
Dr & Donna
Not sure, looks like Harriet Jones
Luke Smith (Sarah's Kid from SJA)
The Judoon
Rose
Dr & Donna
Red Dalek
Sarah Jane
A silver hand (claw?) flicking a switch. - Likely Davros
Unknown guy next to an exploding building
Unnamed UNIT military guy (not the Brig or the guy from the Sontaran two parter)
Ton of Dalek ships heading towards Earth
The Doctor
Capt Jack in Torchwood HQ
Capt Jack talking (appears to be holding Ianto & Gwen)
Dalek spaceship firing in the sky
Donna's Mum
Random Crowd
Gwen Cooper
Donna
Gwen, Ianto, & Jack in Torchwood HQ
Sarah Jane & Luke Smith
Rose
Sarah Jane & Luke Smith
Martha Jones
Torchwood door opening and Ianto & Gwen firing guns (presumably) at said door
A Dalek coming around a corner
Jack talking again (same holding shot from before)
Interior of Tardis on fire
Unknown white haired woman with the Judoon
Doctor
Rose (looking up while hearing Dalek voices) saying "It's only just beginning"
Dalek Eyestalk

HOLY CRAP! That's an enormous amount of characters. It's going to be a seriously fast moving story.

One minor disappointment: It appears the finale appears to be about Earth being threatened with destruction AGAIN. That's four series since the show has returned. All four revolve around that. Hopefully when we get a full series again in 2010, Moffatt gets away from that. :)

Still, having said that I'm probably enjoy the heck out of it.

Edit: Trailer on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls19oRXNKTE&fmt=18

Mountain Man

06-21-2008, 11:16 PM

I actually really liked "Turn Left". Can't say I'm too jazzed about the trailer, though. Do we really need every major and minor character from the past four years all in the same episode? Maybe it'll work and actually be an enjoyable story, but it could also be another "Last of the Timelords".

Joe Siegler

06-22-2008, 09:14 AM

I actually really liked "Turn Left". Can't say I'm too jazzed about the trailer, though. Do we really need every major and minor character from the past four years all in the same episode?

HOLY CRAP YES! There's actually going to be more than what was in the trailer. Mickey will be there, too. So who knows who else.

Dave-ros

06-22-2008, 12:00 PM

Mountain Man

06-22-2008, 12:48 PM

HOLY CRAP YES! There's actually going to be more than what was in the trailer. Mickey will be there, too. So who knows who else.
I'm just worried that it's going to be a jumbled mess of a story, with RTD including characters so he can tick them off his list rather than because it makes sense to include them in the narrative.

Tea Monster

06-22-2008, 01:16 PM

I was thinking today (this happens occasionally :tinyted:), about the number of times the Doctor (who supposedly abhors violence) has actually killed an enemy -- not just allowed UNIT soldiers etc. to kill them, but has actively killed or destroyed a living entity by his own actions. Or, where he's tried and failed (I seem to remember him trying to stone a wounded caveman to death in the first story). It started because I remembered him zapping that Cyberman in The Wheel in Space, electrocuting an Ice Warrior in The Seeds of Death, and hurling explosives at Daleks in Resurrection of the Daleks (not to mention shooting a Dalek mutant and trying to shoot Davros, but failing).

Do I sense another Joe list coming on? :hhg:

Yeah, and whats all this about not being able to light up the Sontarans, but he can quite happily drown the Spider Queen's babies at the end of the other Xmas special? Explain that one!

The one that really made me point at the TV with mouth open was the end of Remembrance of the Daleks - I mean, apart from the "Rice Pudding" thing that had me squirming in embarrassment. At the end of Remembrance, he blithely blows up the Daleks home planet of Skaro, seemingly forgetting that the Daleks shared the planet with another race called the Thalls, who were good guys.

Doh!

It's going to be sad to see Russell go, but Stephen Moffat has proven that he knows how to write good Doctor Who - I just hope he knows how to produce it! As we all found to our cost in the '80s, Who needs a change of direction every few years to stay fresh.

Dave-ros

06-22-2008, 03:07 PM

Ben Aaronvitch said he felt the Thals had already left Skaro for another planet -- not obvious on screen, but anyway ;)

Joe Siegler

06-22-2008, 04:19 PM

The one that really made me point at the TV with mouth open was the end of Remembrance of the Daleks - I mean, apart from the "Rice Pudding" thing that had me squirming in embarrassment. At the end of Remembrance, he blithely blows up the Daleks home planet of Skaro, seemingly forgetting that the Daleks shared the planet with another race called the Thalls, who were good guys.

In Pertwee's era, I believe the Thals stated they no longer lived on Skaro.

Edit: Well, I may be wrong, but check out the info on Wikipedia about the Thals here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thals). At the time of McCoy's events, they weren't there anymore.

Edit 2: There's more on this here (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Thal).

Joe Siegler

06-26-2008, 10:57 AM

Joe Siegler

06-26-2008, 02:09 PM

Clip from Saturday's Episode

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUgvgE52tWw&fmt=18

Mountain Man

06-26-2008, 03:14 PM

Now this is seriously cool.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jun/26/bbc.doctorwho

I liked what was officially done with the two episodes on The Invasion DVD release, but if these guys can pull this off, I wonder if the BBC would allow it to go forward like the recons have been allowed to.

Or if the BBC might try and buy out the work.
Eh, I thought the animation on "The Invasion" was much, much better than this. While it's a good effort for a group of fans, I don't think the quality is nearly high enough for the BBC to want to bother with.

Joe Siegler

06-26-2008, 04:34 PM

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainment/Doctor-Who-star-set-to.4225079.jp

Joe Siegler

06-26-2008, 05:46 PM

w00t!

The season finale of Who this season will be 65 minutes long, as opposed to the 45 minutes they usually are.

Dave-ros

06-27-2008, 07:45 AM

I'm gonna have to set my video to record Saturday's episode, as I'll be away until the following Saturday, which might be too late to watch it on iPlayer...! :tinyted:

Scotty

06-28-2008, 07:52 PM

Well, that sure kicked a lot of ass. :D

When that Dalek popped up near the end, I thought Rose was going to get exterminated, as Kahn had said "Death is coming... I can see it... Everlasting death for the most faithful companion..."

Mountain Man

06-28-2008, 09:57 PM

Well, that sure kicked a lot of ass. :D
Surprisingly, I find myself having to agree. It's was a bit overwhelming, and there were a lot of different characters to follow, but what can I say: RTD pulled it off and gave us one hell of an adventure. I just finished watching it and I was literally on the edge of my seat. The ending had me sitting up with my face inches from the monitor. I'm a bit breathless really.

Bring on the conclusion!

Holy hell! Is the Doctor really regenerating?! :eek:

Scotty

06-28-2008, 10:13 PM

Jenny regenerated a few episodes back without turning into someone else, and it looked like the Dalek didn't score a direct hit with the extermination ray.

Mountain Man

06-28-2008, 10:44 PM

Eh, but that'd be a bit of a copout, and a little disappointing to be honest. I really hope RTD just pulled off the biggest surprise in Doctor Who history.

Joe Siegler

06-29-2008, 08:43 AM

Jenny regenerated a few episodes back without turning into someone else, and it looked like the Dalek didn't score a direct hit with the extermination ray.

Jenny did NOT regenerate. We just saw a bit of regenerative "goo" come out of her mouth. That was not a regeneration as we know it. We still do not know what she is, actually.

More on the episode yesterday when I have more time to write it down. I did love the shout outs to the old Hartnell story, "Dalek Invasion of Earth", the Tom Baker story "The Pirate Planet", & the recent Christmas episode "Voyage of the Damned".

Joe Siegler

06-29-2008, 03:54 PM

Some interesting speculations regarding the episode that just aired. Check this out (http://www.tvscoop.tv/2008/06/doctor_who_sens.html).

Mister_Anderson

06-30-2008, 12:57 AM

A fantastic episode, I was also on the edge of my seat for the majority of that one. :)

Im also tenatively on board the "Donna is a timelord" ship, especially after reading Joes link. Another clue not mentioned in it could be how she keeps going on about being a temp. Temporary human, perchance? ;)

And 65 minutes for the season finale? Yes! Bring it! Good to see Russell going out with a bang.

Rider

06-30-2008, 07:54 AM

Very interesting all this!

I think I'll have to rewatch the episode, I feel like I missed a lot of stuff that could be significant.

Also, I loved the Dalek going "Resistance is... useless." :D

Joe Siegler

06-30-2008, 09:13 AM

CRAP! I just thought of a way out of all of this, and it's the biggest magic reset button we've ever used. The explanation is:

We're still in the alternate "Turn Left" universe. It didn't completely get reset. DAMMIT! I hope they don't do that.

Scotty

06-30-2008, 11:08 AM

Oh God, that would suck. :eek:

Given that that chick from the Shadow Proclamation still sensed the Trickster on Donna's back, you may unfortunately be right... :eek:

Mountain Man

06-30-2008, 06:41 PM

Joe Siegler

06-30-2008, 11:09 PM

That would be a classic RTD copout, so it's certainly plausible. The other theory is that since the Medusa Cascade is temporally out of sync with the rest of the universe that it will serve as a handy reset button.

The cascade idea is more reasonable. One would expect that whatever happens, it won't stay that way. So somehow things will get reset. I just hope it is not the "Turn Left" idea I posted about above.

Joe Siegler

06-30-2008, 11:17 PM

Something separate. I'm not a big comic book fan at all. But this looks interesting.

http://io9.com/5020619/discover-doctor-whos-old-wardrobe-old-selves

Mister_Anderson

07-01-2008, 06:39 AM

Doctor Who Promo for episode 13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9EVFfkdoWQ)

Davros rages!

Rider

07-01-2008, 12:55 PM

Hooooooo...leeeeeeee.... crap!

Joe Siegler

07-01-2008, 03:41 PM

Some really cool speculation on what will happen in the finale on Saturday.

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/77938/doctor_who_what_is_the_osterhagen_key.html

GordoSan

07-01-2008, 04:55 PM

Sorry if im repeating this, but does any one else think the doctors amputated hand under the tardis console being bathed in regenerating energy could be significant?

Dave-ros

07-05-2008, 07:26 AM

Just watched this while recovering from a night flight. Good stuff -- I recognised a Dalek spouting the same line from The Dalek Invasion of Earth (at first I thought the Doctor was referring to that when he mentioned another project to move Earth), and of course Sarah-Jane knows Davros from Genesis of the Daleks (and presumably she thought he was dead after that story!). Anyway, it's good to have my namesake back :cool:

I thought it was a bit quaint at the start, that Donna's street still gets deliveries from a milkman -- I thought they were extinct these days, since everyone gets their milk from the supermarket now :confused:

Joe Siegler

07-05-2008, 09:39 AM

hahahahaha

http://sic.phantom-rouge.co.uk/2008/07/05/doctor-who-final-episode-bingo/

RedSplat

07-05-2008, 12:23 PM

I'll play.. :)

http://www.redsplat.net/bingo.gif

6 correct :) Well, Donna died in a way, so it's 6½.

Didn't really like this final episode.
Just glad that Donna is gone. I hope the Doctor's daughter will be the next companion.

Dave-ros

07-05-2008, 02:12 PM

Heh, Daleks speaking in German -- well, they were based on the Nazis, so it's about time. Extermineren! :p

Joe Siegler

07-05-2008, 05:35 PM

I loved Donna. Turned out to be better than I thought. Still prefer Martha of the modern companions. My wife, however, liked Donna better than all of them.

Very VERY much enjoyed the episode.

Mountain Man

07-05-2008, 08:33 PM

Donna is my all-time favorite companion, so I was a bit gutted by the ending. :(

I just hope she doesn't bump into Sarah Jane, Mickey, or Captain Jack any time in the future. "Hey! I haven't seen you since you traveled with the Doctor! Donna? Donna? Good Lord, she's dead!"

Anyway, few nitpicks with the episode: the Doctor sorta regenerating was a cop out. I really didn't like that bit at all. And pulling the Earth through space behind the TARDIS was scientifically rubbish in so many ways. There was one other thing that annoyed me, but I've forgotten what it was, so it obviously didn't annoy me that much.

Other than that, hot damn that was an awesome story! Glad to see RTD go out with a bang (though did he write the Christmas special?). Four solid stories in a row. I didn't think he had it in him, I thought for sure he'd drop the ball, but he finished it with a hell of a bang. Now why couldn't he have written like that for the past four years?

Edit: Odd... I just had a peek over out the Outpost Gallifrey forums, and it seems that this one didn't go over too well with that lot. You know, there are times I feel like I'm out of sync with the rest of Doctor Who fandom.

Joe Siegler

07-05-2008, 08:35 PM

RTD is also in control of the 2009 specials. Whether he wrote them all or not, I don't think is known.

Did see a quote by him this week where he said that once Moffatt takes over, he doesn't plan on writing for the show either. I find that hard to believe. :)

Mountain Man

07-05-2008, 10:23 PM

If we had just been treated to "The Last of the Timelords" or "Voyage of the Damned" then I would have found that very disheartening, but now, not so much. O.K., Russ, let's see what you've got.

Joe Siegler

07-06-2008, 12:50 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who:_Proms_Cutaway

Apparently, there's another mini episode coming on July 27th.

Joe Siegler

07-06-2008, 09:23 AM

The only thing that bugged me about this episode was the fate of Donna. While very well acted, and had emotional impact, I don't see the need.

They say Donna would have "burnt" - presumably much like Rose would have at the end of Eccleston's season. However Rose had the whole of the time vortex in her head, and she had that sucked out and was fine with just a kiss. Donna needs to have her entire mind wiped because she had half of the Doctor's thoughts in her head? That doesn't seem to fit with the Rose stuff.

Furthermore, she had better never run into anyone from Torchwood or UNIT. "Hey Donna, remember when we did that thing with the Daleks? How are you doing? Donna? Donna? Oh damn, she's dead."

Mountain Man

07-06-2008, 09:35 PM

My initial reaction to the story was positive, as you can see above, but the more I've thought about it, the less I like it. Much of the story was superfluous, and I think my delight with the whole Doctor Donna gimmick was simply because I have a crush on Donna (not really, but I do think Catherine Tate is a babe, and I really like the Donna character).

It wasn't a terrible episode, and it's fairly easy to turn your brain off and just enjoy it since it's enough of a spectacle to keep you entertained, but as far plotting goes, it really wasn't particularly good. There's just a lot of it that doesn't make much sense once you start thinking it through.

And then there's that whole mess with Rose getting stuck with a cheap imitation Doctor that the real Doctor--her Doctor--so obviously despised...

Joe Siegler

07-08-2008, 01:05 AM

Shamelessly stolen from Outpost Gallifrey...

The final episode of Series Four, Journey's End, was the most-watched programme of the past week, according to unofficial overnights.

Although the men's final at the Wimbledon Tennis Championships peaked with an audience of 12.7 million, the average for the whole programme was only 7.4 million.

If this is confirmed when final figures are published by BARB in nine days' time then Journey's End will have achieved the highest chart position in Doctor Who's history.

The Appreciation Index for the programme was once more an incredible 91. For a minority programme on a digital channel, a score of over 90 is very unusual. For the most watched programme of the week to score this high is is virtually unprecedented and a massive achievement for the programme.

Sunday's BBC3 repeat got an overnight audience of 0.99 million viewers. It was a 4.4% share of the multichannel audience and the most-watched programme on all multichannel TV for Sunday, with nearly twice the audience of the second-placed Family Guy. Another 400,000 viewed or downloaded the episode using the BBC iPlayer over the past two days.

Saturday's edition of Doctor Who Confidential was watched by a record 1.32 million viewers, the highest ever achieved for this programme. It had a share of 7.6 % and was the most-watched on multichannel television on Saturday. The Sunday repeat had 0.42 million watching.

Doctor Who was also number one on Friday's multichannel list, with the repeat of The Stolen Earth getting 0.59 million watching. The earlier repeat of Turn Left got 0.35 million viewers and was 12th for the day.

Both The Stolen Earth and Journey's End will be repeated next Sunday afternoon on BBC1.

Dave-ros

07-08-2008, 03:01 AM

Blimey, it's even beaten City of Death?! :eek: :cool:

(Apparently that story was helped by an ITV strike -- whereas today, no-one would even notice if ITV went off the air entirely, because it SUCKS!!!! :p)

Tang Lung

07-08-2008, 03:06 AM

(Apparently that story was helped by an ITV strike -- whereas today, no-one would even notice if ITV went off the air entirely, because it SUCKS!!!! :p)

But where would I get my Emmerdale?? :o

Joe Siegler

07-09-2008, 01:13 PM

Look who is making an appearance in a two part episode of Series 2 of Sarah Jane Adventures. ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME!

Joe Siegler

07-09-2008, 03:09 PM

EEK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jiSd6qiOjQ&fmt=18

Mountain Man

07-10-2008, 10:02 AM

Look who is making an appearance in a two part episode of Series 2 of Sarah Jane Adventures. ABOUT FRIGGIN TIME!
I wonder if that means there's a chance the Brig will show up in Doctor Who?

Joe Siegler

07-10-2008, 07:37 PM

I wonder if that means there's a chance the Brig will show up in Doctor Who?

One would think with all the Unit activity recently that would have been the time.

But there's always the 09 specials, I guess.

Joe Siegler

07-15-2008, 03:14 PM

A story that probably only Mountain Man & I will like..

Doctor Who star Catherine Tate to strip for play

Actress will take off her clothes in West End role

Tuesday, 15 July 2008

Catherine Tate will get naked for her latest role.

The comedian and Doctor Who actress plays a randy maths teacher called Michelle in West End show Under The Blue Sky.

And the 40-year-old mum-of-one must strip off for a graphic sex scene.

‘She doesn’t apologise for having slept with all these people,’ Catherine tells The Sun.

‘I think it’s very honest and refreshing to have someone who goes, “Yeah, I have a lot of sex.”

'It just strips away the nonsense.’

Catherine has just finished filming as assistant Donna Noble in BBC1 programme Doctor Who.

Dave-ros

07-15-2008, 03:18 PM

I think I speak for the rest of us when I say :dalek:

Mind you, Jerry Hall got her kit off for The Graduate, so... ;)

Joe Siegler

07-15-2008, 03:23 PM

I think I speak for the rest of us when I say :dalek:

Speak for yourself!

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/ctateDM2005_468x577.jpg

Joe Siegler

07-16-2008, 12:47 PM

Official figures released today by the Broadcasters' Audience Research Board confirm that Journey's End, the final episode of Series Four, was the UK's most watched television programme of the week with an official rating of 10.57 million viewers.

It is the first time in Doctor Who's 45 year history that the programme has achieved this position. Not only did the programme top the chart but it did so in style getting more than 1.5 million more than the second placed programme, Mondays Wimbledon coverage. Journey's End got over 2 million more viewers than any episode of Coronation Street and 3 million more than any episode of EastEnders.

This previous highest chart position was achieved by the 2007 Christmas special, Voyage of the Damned, and last week's The Stolen Earth, both of which came second. The highest chart position the classic series achieved was 5th for the second episode of the 1975 Tom Baker story The Ark in Space.

Only 31 episodes of Doctor Who have ever made the top ten, eight starring William Hartnell, one starring Jon Pertwee, one starring Tom Baker, one starring Christopher Eccleston and twenty starring David Tennant.

The high chart position, combined with the outstanding Appreciation Index scores, make the two final episodes of Series 4 undoubtedly the most successful episodes of Doctor Who ever made. With the repeats on BBC3 and the IPlayer downloads included, the final episode has been seen by nearly 13 million viewers within a week of broadcast.

Doctor Who also topped the Multi Channel Chart, with Saturday's Confidential making number one with 1.46 million watching. The Sunday repeat of Journey's End was 2nd with 1.21 million and the Friday repeat of The Stolen Earth got 0.74 million and was the 11th most watched programme.

Mountain Man

07-17-2008, 01:20 PM

Catherine Tate will get naked for her latest role.
:woot: :love:

Mountain Man

07-22-2008, 10:44 PM

Just finished watching "The Time Warrior" starring Jon Pertwee. A great four-parter this one is. All the characters were very well written and acted to the point that I was rather disappointed to see Captain Irongron, the ostensible villain, killed in the final act.

One thing did strike me as odd, though: at the beginning of the story, the Brigadier has had a bunch of scientists transferred to an ultra-secure top secret facility, one so well guarded that the Doctor observes that they almost refused the Brigadier admittance. About the assembled scientists the Brigadier remarks, "Most of their work's so secret, they don't know what they're doing themselves."

Well, this is the odd part: Sarah Jane borrowed her aunt's--who was a scientist--identity so she could go snooping for a story. So apparently, this place that was so secretive was common knowledge to a journalist who had no trouble gaining entry with a false identity, and based on a comment by the Doctor, her aunt was at least 20-years her senior! Obviously this facility wasn't so secure after all.

Dave-ros

07-23-2008, 04:36 AM

Her aunt might have been the journalistic equivalent of James Bond ;)

I wonder if there was some exposition cut for pacing reasons, i.e. Sarah spends ages tracking the place down?

Mountain Man

07-23-2008, 05:47 AM

That's fine, but then that still leaves the question of how she could assume the identity of her aunt in a facility that was so security conscious that even the Brigadier had trouble getting in.

Not a big deal. It was just an odd continuity lapse.

Dave-ros

07-23-2008, 06:28 AM

Ah, you mean didn't they check her photo ID :p

Maybe they're actually incompetent, and thus didn't know who the Brig was, but let an attractive young woman through because she fluttered her eyelashes? Bearing in mind the situation with the real British government losing laptops on trains and CD-ROMs of information through the post, such a level of idiocy isn't hard to imagine :D

Joe Siegler

07-24-2008, 08:32 PM

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=47147

Good interview with Moffatt. He does make a really good comment in here that I never considered.

First off, he says that there are a total of five specials. The one for Christmas 2008, plus three in 2009, PLUS Christmas 2009. So it's more than we initially thought. But the cool comment is this.

Moffatt said that the total screen time of the specials in 2009 is more than the total screen time for the entire "full series" of the last four years (all of McCoy, last of Colin Baker) of the classic series. I never thought of it that way, and he's right.

All this bitching and moaning about "lack of show" in 2009 is an intersting dynamic to those of us who followed the show closely in the last half a dozen years of the classic run. I remember being disappointed in the new count of episodes back then (14 episodes, 25 mins each), and we loved a new "full" series back then.

Joe Siegler

07-27-2008, 09:07 AM

Music of the Spheres Link:

This is the new five minute episode that went out today. Apparently it's not going to be on BBC TV for a few months from now, but it was aired live during the Proms today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwI-V4AdGYc&fmt=18

Scotty

07-27-2008, 04:00 PM

I wonder if, during the filming of "The Stolen Earth", they made a 5-minute-short of Rose getting exterminated. I bet the Rose haters would love that... :D

Joe Siegler

07-27-2008, 08:08 PM

I wonder if, during the filming of "The Stolen Earth", they made a 5-minute-short of Rose getting exterminated. I bet the Rose haters would love that... :D

I would have dug that. ;)

Mountain Man

07-29-2008, 07:33 PM

Joe Siegler

07-30-2008, 12:22 AM

Nice little Doctor Who fix there. It must have been fun to see it "live".

Agreed. The interaction with the audience both with the paper and the Graske must have made it a lot better.

Joe Siegler

07-31-2008, 10:31 PM

The Moff is right!

:woot:

http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/tv-news/268602/doctor-who-chief-billie-piper-won-t-return/1/

More Moff:

http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?ac=11&id=1703

In this one he says that there won't be any Time War shown on screen. DAMMIT!

Joe Siegler

08-01-2008, 03:13 PM

Ever feel like you're talking to yourself in a thread? New stuff supposedly coming out in August:

http://www.character-online.com/products/Doctor-Who-Series-4-action-figures-toys/

http://www.character-online.com/products/Doctor-Who-Classics/

I also just found a "Time Crash" set, and a figure of Jenny. Neither of which I knew existed until right this minute.

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm44/SWH75/DrWho008.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/berniefishnotes/PIC_0003-1.jpg

Must find.

Edit: Dammit. The Jenny is a custom. I wrote the guy who posted the picture, and he wrote me back saying this:

I made her!

She's made from the body of a Primeval Abby (with Helen Cutter's boots, no that you can see them here!), the head of Ilia from Star Trek - The Motion Picture, and the hair is mainly milliput, with the ponytail and long bits at the front made from greenstuff, and her sleeves and t-shirt have been altered with milliput.

I gave her a Vortex Manipulator as well, made from one of the bracelets that come with the Charmed Phoebe figure with some bits attached, and the crossbow is borrowed from Faith out of Buffy.

More toy stuff: Here's a series on the making of Doctor Who toys. Lots of great reading here:

Part 1: http://doctorwhotoys.net/designworks1.htm
Part 2: http://doctorwhotoys.net/designworks2.htm
Part 3: http://doctorwhotoys.net/designworks3.htm
Part 4: http://doctorwhotoys.net/makingdoctorwhoactionfigures.htm
Part 5: http://doctorwhotoys.net/sculpting.htm
Part 6: http://doctorwhotoys.net/sculptingdoctorwho.htm
Part 7: http://www.doctorwhotoys.net/approval.htm

Dave-ros

08-01-2008, 05:23 PM

Wow, a toy of the 5th Doctor -- it's about time! I only remember the 7th Doctor and Ace figures from Dapol (along with Imperial Daleks etc.) :D

Mountain Man

08-01-2008, 07:21 PM

The Moff is right!

:woot:

http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/tv-news/268602/doctor-who-chief-billie-piper-won-t-return/1/
‘You have to hand it to the Doctor for dumping a slightly needy girlfriend by palming her off on a copy of himself,’ he told fans at a sci-fi convention.

‘He tried leaving her in a parallel universe and that didn’t work!’
Wow. The guy doesn't pull any punches, does he? I wonder what other aspects of RTD's Doctor Who he didn't like? It'll be very interesting to see what he does with the series.

Joe Siegler

08-10-2008, 12:21 PM

http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?ac=11&id=1717

Read the commentary in here about the "fans". I agree completely.

Scotty

08-10-2008, 02:46 PM

Ugh. :( :mad:

-Scotty

...it sounds like those fans need to find a copy of William Shatner's SNL appearance from 22 years ago... :eek: :) :D

Mountain Man

08-10-2008, 08:29 PM

http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?ac=11&id=1717

Read the commentary in here about the "fans". I agree completely.
Awesome (the commentary, I mean, not the idiots who disrupted my babe Catherine's :love: play). Reminds me of Ewan McGregor's response to a "fan" who was hassling him at a children's charity event. The "fan" kept yelling, "Hey, Obi-Wan!" McGregor ignored him but the guy kept it up, so finally McGregor said, "What do you want?"

"Do you have any advice for a padawan in training?"

"Yeah! F--- off!"

Speaking of Catherine Tate :love:, I found some clips of her show on YouTube. I thought this bit was hilarious:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=11kKI_pbn9g

Joe Siegler

08-11-2008, 12:39 PM

I've read further stories from people who were there that say the Tennant leaving in the middle of the show was bogus, so I'm not sure what to believe.

Joe Siegler

08-23-2008, 10:52 PM

http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midlands-news/2008/08/23/doctor-who-comes-to-birmingham-66331-21593875/

Lengthy interview with Sylvester McCoy commenting on the current show.

Joe Siegler

08-25-2008, 05:18 PM

Dammit. I'm Rose.

http://www.gas-agency.co.uk/Clients/2entertain/whichcompanionareyou/

bazboyz

08-25-2008, 08:19 PM

Dammit. I'm Rose.

http://www.gas-agency.co.uk/Clients/2entertain/whichcompanionareyou/

OMG 1st go Im the Doctor :D

Mountain Man

08-26-2008, 02:07 PM

http://www.sundaymercury.net/news/midlands-news/2008/08/23/doctor-who-comes-to-birmingham-66331-21593875/

Lengthy interview with Sylvester McCoy commenting on the current show.
Says the article, "McCoy’s performance was masterly and nuanced..." While I think he's perhaps the most underrated of the Doctors, I think calling his performance "masterly" is a bit of an exaggeration.

Dammit. I'm Rose.
Me too. :(

Joe Siegler

08-26-2008, 03:47 PM

Says the article, "McCoy’s performance was masterly and nuanced..." While I think he's perhaps the most underrated of the Doctors, I think calling his performance "masterly" is a bit of an exaggeration

Agreed. He was pretty good in Series 25 & 26. Not as much in 24, but they hadn't yet decided on the Cartmel Masterplan yet then. :)

The only thing that McCoy never did very well was forceful anger (one of Tennant's strengths). It always felt forced and fake to me. Other than that I didn't really have a problem with his acting.

Scotty

08-26-2008, 10:39 PM

Dammit. I'm Rose.

http://www.gas-agency.co.uk/Clients/2entertain/whichcompanionareyou/

Me too. :(

Me three... :eek:

Dave-ros

08-27-2008, 02:26 AM

I'm the Doctor, presumably because I'm so annoyingly moral ;)

Mountain Man

08-27-2008, 09:02 AM

The only thing that McCoy never did very well was forceful anger (one of Tennant's strengths). It always felt forced and fake to me. Other than that I didn't really have a problem with his acting.
Agreed. He definitely couldn't pull off anger well at all, but he did a great job conveying the world weariness of the Doctor. As someone once said, he's one of the few actors to fill the roll who makes you believe the Doctor really is centuries old. Tom Baker, I think, is the another.

Joe Siegler

08-27-2008, 09:31 AM

As someone once said, he's one of the few actors to fill the roll who makes you believe the Doctor really is centuries old.

I never thought of it that way before. You're probably right.

Hartnell perhaps too, but that's more a function of his real life age, I would think.

Joe Siegler

09-01-2008, 11:27 PM

Oh dear God, no. MAKE IT STOP!

http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?ac=11&id=1765

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7591673.stm

:brickwall:

Joe Siegler

09-03-2008, 02:20 PM

I finally have my latest batch of updates to my Doctor Who toy collection in, so I've taken a new family photo. This is the top of my desk at 3D Realms, BTW. :)

Mountain Man

09-04-2008, 11:07 AM

Oh dear God, no. MAKE IT STOP!

http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?ac=11&id=1765

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7591673.stm

:brickwall:
Most. Overrated. Character. Ever. :doh:

Though curiously, the article never said that she had actually been invited back. I hope Steve Moffat is smarter than that.

Joe Siegler

09-04-2008, 12:15 PM

Apparently it's not true. Although we still have some specials under RTD's control, so we can't totally rule it out, either.

Rider

09-04-2008, 05:07 PM

Heh, it's kind of funny really, at the end of the previous season, when Rose got stranded for the first time... I really thought she should return...

and then she did...

and now I wish she hadn't. :)

Joe Siegler

09-09-2008, 02:51 PM

Good interview with Paul Cornell, the guy who wrote the Human Nature/Family of Blood story from 2007.

http://io9.com/5047015/doctor-whos-paul-cornell-tells-io9-why-darkness-is-overrated

Joe Siegler

09-09-2008, 10:03 PM

http://www.denofgeek.com/Reviews/111279/doctor_who_trial_of_a_time_lord_dvd_pt1.html

Dave-ros

09-10-2008, 12:11 PM

About damn time they released it on DVD -- I never got it on video, and my original 1986 recording is missing the first 15 minutes or so of episode 9 (I had the VCR set to the wrong channel) :o

Joe Siegler

09-10-2008, 08:27 PM

About damn time they released it on DVD -- I never got it on video, and my original 1986 recording is missing the first 15 minutes or so of episode 9 (I had the VCR set to the wrong channel) :o

Part II:

http://www.denofgeek.com/Reviews/111827/doctor_who_trial_of_a_time_lord_dvd_pt2.html

I recently re watched the entire series in one sitting so I can go straight to watching the same with commentaries when it's released next month over here.

Dave-ros

09-11-2008, 03:03 AM

Ah, looks like it'll also have the Lenny Henry parody sketch -- the one with a Cyberman version of Margaret Thatcher :p

So Nicola Bryant didn't even know that
Peri might not have died after all
because she never watched the show again? :eek:

Joe Siegler

09-11-2008, 08:07 AM

Part III

http://www.denofgeek.com/Reviews/112380/doctor_who_trial_of_a_time_lord_dvd_pt_3.html

Joe Siegler

09-11-2008, 09:12 PM

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/112368/doctor_who_torchwood_children_in_need_special.html

Joe Siegler

09-12-2008, 07:28 PM

Part IV:

http://www.denofgeek.com/Reviews/113580/doctor_who_trial_of_a_time_lord_dvd_pt4.html

Joe Siegler

09-15-2008, 12:37 AM

Haven't done this in awhile. A list of my Doctor Who DVD's:

William Hartnell:
Lost in Time
Unearthly Child
The Daleks
The Edge of Destruction
The Aztecs
The Dalek Invasion of Earth
The Web Planet
The Time Meddler

Patrick Troughton:
Lost in Time
Tomb of the Cybermen
The Mind Robber
The Invasion
The Seeds of Death

Jon Pertwee:
The Three Doctors

Tom Baker:
Genesis of the Daleks
The Pirate Planet
Destiny of the Daleks
The Keeper of Traken
Logopolis

Peter Davison:
Castrovalva
Black Orchid
Earthshock
Time-Flight
Arc of Infinity
The Five Doctors - 25th Anniversary Edition
Warriors of the Deep
Resurrection of the Daleks
The Caves of Androzani

Colin Baker:
Vengeance on Varos
The Mark of the Rani
The Two Doctors
Revelation of the Daleks
The Trial of a Time Lord (on order)

Sylvester McCoy:
Remembrance of the Daleks
The Curse of Fenric

Paul McGann:
Doctor Who: The Movie (PAL)

Christopher Eccleston:
The Complete First Series

David Tennant:
The Complete Second Series
The Complete Third Series
The Infinite Quest (PAL)
The Complete Fourth Series (on order)

bazboyz

09-17-2008, 09:34 PM

Could Russell Tovey be the new Doctor Who?
there been reports that RTD wants him as the 11th doctor
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/people,1390,could-russell-tovey-be-new-doctor-who,45144

and some more rumors

http://www.virginmedia.com/tvradio/galleries/more-doctor-who-rumours.php?ssid=1

Scotty

09-17-2008, 09:54 PM

Midshipman Frame from "Voyage of the Damned"? :)

Joe Siegler

09-17-2008, 11:02 PM

Could Russell Tovey be the new Doctor Who?
there been reports that RTD wants him as the 11th doctor
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/people,1390,could-russell-tovey-be-new-doctor-who,45144

I don't buy that. Tennant is contracted through the 2009 specials, unless he's regenerating in the last one, it really wouldn't be up to RTD to decide this.

Mountain Man

09-18-2008, 02:32 PM

Yeah, it's Moffat's show now. If anybodys going to pick the next Doctor it'll be him.

Joe Siegler

09-19-2008, 10:27 AM

Spoilirific action for this coming Dec 25th's episode

http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/tv/news/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=9648073

DOSGuy

09-20-2008, 01:09 AM

I decided to stop reading this thread back in April because I was waiting for the CBC to catch up. Series 4 started in Canada today, so I can finally read this thing without being lost or getting spoilers!

And... it was another monster of the week episode. While I was watching, I thought to myself, "I remember when the Doctor would find an oppressed group of people and help them overcome their enemies." I know I'm a broken record on this subject, but I just really enjoyed being introduced to some new culture and watching the Doctor get involved in their conflicts. Whether they were fighting to survive against monsters, or involved in a civil war, or suffering under a tyrannical government, there was always room for character development outside of the TARDIS crew. Infighting, betrayal, political intrigue... it was real science fiction.

I don't know how many more "The Doctor saves London from the [alien of the week]" episodes I can take. At least next week's episode is in Pompeii. I assume there's still an alien connection. Anyway, I think I've finally become disillusioned with the new Doctor Who. I don't like the format, and I really don't like the Earth-centric/London-centric storylines. If it doesn't get a lot better this season, I'm just going to stop watching. Maybe Steven Moffatt will take it in a new direction in Series 5.

bazboyz

09-20-2008, 12:55 PM

Joe Siegler

09-20-2008, 03:54 PM

Scotty

09-20-2008, 09:59 PM

"Partners in Crime" was a ho-hum episode, in my opinion. "The Fires of Pompeii" kicked ass, and is one of my favorite episodes from the new Doctor Who.

See you next week. :)

Joe Siegler

09-20-2008, 10:45 PM

Actually, Pompeii I didn't much care for. Had some GREAT moments, but overall I didn't care for it.

DOSGuy

09-21-2008, 12:36 AM

You might want to continue to stay off the thread until you finish the series. :) Those of us who have seen all of it either won't agree with what you said, or will spoil something.

Alternatively, they might give me hope! I miss being excited to watch Doctor Who. I'm glad you folks liked it.

Mountain Man

09-25-2008, 09:30 AM

4 was the strongest season since 1 but still largely inferior in my opinion. It had some good stuff, but there was still that same general lack of consistency that entered the show around the same time as David Tennant (whether those two circumstances are related I couldn't say). That said, there are some cracking stories in season 4, including RTD's own "Midnight" which is probably his best Who work since "The End of the World", so stay with it and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised

Joe Siegler

09-25-2008, 10:34 AM

BTW, the name of the next Christmas Special has been put out there.

The Next Doctor

Joe Siegler

09-26-2008, 10:10 AM

Are there any folks reading this thread from England who would be willing to assist me in acquiring some of the recent Doctor Who toys that are out?

I am having a hard time finding several of the newer action figures. At a reasonable price anyway. I mean look at this (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fourth-Fifth-Doctor-Action-Figures/dp/B001G4QZMG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=toys&qid=1222441781&sr=8-3)! Let me know, we can work something out.

What I'm looking for are these figures: Donna Noble, Tenth Doctor with Adipose, Fifth Doctor, Sixth Doctor, Fourth Doctor.

All of these I can find on Amazon UK, but for prices like £17.89 each? Uh, no.

Joe Siegler

09-26-2008, 03:09 PM

http://io9.com/5053248/sylvester-mccoy-is-back-on-doctor-who--sort-of

Dave-ros

09-27-2008, 04:23 AM

Hey, didn't he do a series of radio adventures with Sophie Aldred, called Professor X or similar, that was similar to Doctor Who?

Joe Siegler

09-27-2008, 08:58 AM

Hey, didn't he do a series of radio adventures with Sophie Aldred, called Professor X or similar, that was similar to Doctor Who?

I think so. Colin Baker did a similar thing with Nicola Bryant, called "The Watcher", I think, didn't he?

Dave-ros

09-27-2008, 11:48 AM

That I wasn't aware of. Wikipedia has spectacularly let me down on both things :tinyted: :dalek:

Joel

09-29-2008, 12:33 AM

Oh dear God, no. MAKE IT STOP!

http://www.kasterborous.com/news.asp?ac=11&id=1765

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7591673.stm

:brickwall:

I feel the same about Jenny, I thought the conclusion to the Doctor's Daughter annoyed me.

But, we just finished up with S4 here in Australia the other night - BAD ASS ENDING! Easily the best two-parter they've made.

Though it does create a couple of creative issues that I won't really go into since it would involve spoiling some story details. I must say this though, how could they really create a bigger threat or have a more epic finale than the one they had? Moffat has a big task on his hands.

Mister_Anderson

09-29-2008, 12:57 AM

Wasn't it 3 parts? 11, 12 & 13 were all the same storyline I thought...

The guy who played the new Davros was awesome. 2nd only to the original Davros for my mind.

Joel

09-29-2008, 03:38 AM

Yes and no. Turn Left is S4's Doctor-lite episode and was most likely intended as stand alone but with significant links to the final two. The fact that the end of TL does not say "To be continued" further supports it is stand-alone. That, plus the fact that the Daleks only come into it from the second last episode and onwards is pretty crucial to. Put it this way, I actually think you can comfortably understand the last two episodes having not seen Turn Left since a lot of things are explained.

But at the same time, it's obviously better to watch Turn Left first for the sake of continuity and story...plus it also being a kick-arse episode is reason enough to see it.

Mountain Man

09-29-2008, 10:28 AM

I must say this though, how could they really create a bigger threat or have a more epic finale than the one they had? Moffat has a big task on his hands.
I hope Moffat doesn't fall into the trap RTD laid for himself of having to "out do" his previous finale. Just give us a good, solid closer and I'll be satisfied. I don't need to see the earth/galaxy/universe in desperate peril at the end of every season. I think an episode like "The Girl in the Fireplace" would make a terrific end-of-season story. Personal tragedy is so much more poignant than trying to make me care about the entire universe. It also escalates the drama because we know the Doctor will always save the universe in the end, but it's never a certainty that he'll be able to save any one person.

Mister_Anderson

09-29-2008, 08:18 PM

Excellent point, MM. I'll be hoping for something different as well & if theres anyone that can come up with something fresh, its Moffat.

Yes and no. Turn Left is S4's Doctor-lite episode and was most likely intended as stand alone but with significant links to the final two. The fact that the end of TL does not say "To be continued" further supports it is stand-alone. That, plus the fact that the Daleks only come into it from the second last episode and onwards is pretty crucial to. Put it this way, I actually think you can comfortably understand the last two episodes having not seen Turn Left since a lot of things are explained.

But at the same time, it's obviously better to watch Turn Left first for the sake of continuity and story...plus it also being a kick-arse episode is reason enough to see it.

Yep. I remember now. It must have been those events in Turn Left that led me to think it was a three parter. That and the way the last season ended with the 3 part Master arc.

Joe Siegler

09-29-2008, 10:28 PM

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/09/who-recon.html

Interesting story on lost Hartnell & Troughton stories.

Joe Siegler

09-29-2008, 10:31 PM

This is probably total bs, but it's intersting to think about. Stewart as the Monk? I could see that.

More bugshit insane Doctor Who rumors. First of all, there are whispers that Patrick Stewart is so happy with Hamlet costar David Tennant, he wants to appear on Doctor Who in 2009, so they can take their relationship to the next level. Stewart's character would have no facial prosthetics, but sport a killer costume, and he's a significant enough figure that he could be brough back. And Stewart doesn't want to play a "good guy." One theory: Picard could revive the role of the Meddling Monk, the mischievous member of the Doctor's own time-traveling race, last seen in 1966.

Meanwhile, a guy who knows a guy who talked to a guy says the long-distant fifth season will start with a Dalek two-parter written by new showrunner Steven Moffat, and will also feature the Zygons, the Ice Warriors and a non-contemporary Celtic companion.

Joel

09-30-2008, 12:02 AM

This is probably total bs, but it's intersting to think about. Stewart as the Monk? I could see that.

Interestingly, Stewart was amongst one of the many actors considered for the role of the Doctor in the 1996 telemovie The Enemy Within (offically titled Doctor Who: The Movie). I'm not sure if Stewart's style would suit the role effectively though. While extremely talented, I think too many people (myself included) would identify Stewart's DW as Doctor Picard given how he approached the role of Professor Xavier in X-Men.

But there's definitely room for Picard in Doctor Who somewhere. Ironically, I think he would have made a terrific Master or Davros.

"Exterminate...and engage!" Sorry....I just had to :p:D

Joe Siegler

09-30-2008, 12:44 AM

Interestingly, Stewart was amongst one of the many actors considered for the role of the Doctor in the 1996 telemovie The Enemy Within (offically titled Doctor Who: The Movie).

Read some of the old threads here, it's hard to outdo me in Dr Who. The point here is that I knew that. I also suggest reading this book if you have not. It's a great resource on the making of the 8th Doctor movie..

US (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007120257/73407921) | UK (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007105916/blacksabbatho-21)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51NRA9P40YL._SS500_.jpg

Joel

09-30-2008, 06:11 AM

Read some of the old threads here, it's hard to outdo me in Dr Who. The point here is that I knew that. I also suggest reading this book if you have not. It's a great resource on the making of the 8th Doctor movie..

US (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007120257/73407921) | UK (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007105916/blacksabbatho-21)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51NRA9P40YL._SS500_.jpg

lol so I gather I would be wasting your time telling you that the Daleks began as a tongue-in-cheek joke before actually being written as a vicious, bona fide enemy of the Doctor?

I will check that book out though. Sorry to waste your time there :doh:

Taril

09-30-2008, 09:31 AM

From Wikipedia.org

"The Next Doctor"[10] is an upcoming episode of the British science fiction television series Doctor Who. It will be broadcast on 25 December 2008, and is the fourth Doctor Who Christmas special of the revived series.
Pre-broadcast publicity, based on excerpts from Davies's forthcoming book Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale, revealed that the Doctor would meet a man played by David Morrissey who also claims to be the Doctor. In further excerpts, Davies commented, "The best title for this episode would be The Two Doctors... but maybe not. The New Doctor, perhaps? Or The Next Doctor? I quite like The Next Doctor."[17] The book also contained two pictures from a scene cut from the end of the previous episode, intended to segue into the special echoing the previous two series. This scene will be included on the series boxset when released[18].

Looks like David Morrissey may very well be the 11th Doctor.
I guess will have to wait till December to find out.

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_04/MorrisseyPOTP_468x492.jpg
from www.dailymail.co.uk
Taken from Filming for 2008 Doctor Who Christmas Special

Joel

09-30-2008, 09:48 AM

I wonder if it is that simple...RTD has always been against multi-Doctor stories (although there was the CIN episode). I'm hoping it is a two-Doctors story though, Morrisey looks very Doctorish.