View Full Version : April fools???
Ronald McDonald
04-01-2005, 10:15 AM
P.S. Keep your eyes open for the unveiling of our next game very soon. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Is this for real???
Parkar
04-01-2005, 10:17 AM
My guess is that its the game that was suposed to be announced last year. Only thing known about it is that its a third party developer and that 3Drealms are producing it much like with max payne.
Parkar said:
My guess is that its the game that was suposed to be announced last year. Only thing known about it is that its a third party developer and that 3Drealms are producing it much like with max payne.
My guess is that it will be announced at E3, but who knows. Maybe not a god idea either becasue there's alolt of new stuff going to be revealed at E3 this year http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Bur one could only hope http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
FireFly
04-01-2005, 10:47 AM
Even if it not DNF it's still from 3DR, and that's what matters.
Rider
04-01-2005, 10:53 AM
FireFly said:
Even if it not DNF it's still from 3DR, and that's what matters.
Indeed! But what if it IS DNF?
For all we know they could be starting to build Hype sometime "soon"
But that's maybe a bit too much to hope for http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
JackpotDen
04-01-2005, 10:56 AM
It's gotta be them going to E3. This year isnt the year, its going to be on duke's 10th anniversary, unless things screw up. It's the start. I feel it, a seed from the force.
Ronald McDonald
04-01-2005, 10:58 AM
Maybe it's Prey http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
Claws
04-01-2005, 10:59 AM
It's April's Fools, they're just teasing you.
dark_angel
04-01-2005, 11:00 AM
FireFly said:
Even if it not DNF it's still from 3DR, and that's what matters.
Agreed!
Can't wait for that announcement http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
They released the Shadow Warrior source code today, so that's not so bad http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Now I want to be able to play it on my xbox.
I can't believe it. I did a search in this thread and I didn't find the word "sign". Maybe lack of Kaiser?
avatar_58
04-01-2005, 11:21 AM
FireFly said:
Even if it not DNF it's still from 3DR, and that's what matters.
Thing is....and I've feared....what if they haven't "got it" anymore? No disrespect...but it has been some time since I've seen their label on someting that wasn't just published by them.
I feel like I'm about to be trampled by a stampede of Duke fans....just remember I still play Duke3d as well! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
JackpotDen
04-01-2005, 11:21 AM
JackpotDen said:
It's gotta be them going to E3. This year isnt the year, its going to be on duke's 10th anniversary, unless things screw up. It's the start. I feel it, a seed from the force.
I got your sign right here buddy
JackpotDen said:
SyntaxN said:
let's just hope that quote is about the *game* we're thinking about.
And what is the game weīre thinking about?
DNF? Prey Reloaded or what....
I hope itīs DNF, but George said that they arenīt that "close"...
When? He said that they had the engine etc complete, its just content production now.they had at [u]least</u> 2004, and the first 3 months of 2005. 9 moths alltogether. POP SOT took about 1 and a half years. The matrix game (Enter) was about 1 year. Games usually take about a year of production. If george wants 6 months pre release hype, it will begin around about June. till then they would have had approx 2 years of production, with about 6 months for removal of bugs. June, its gna be then. Mark my words.
IT WILL COME!!!
thehoss
04-01-2005, 11:23 AM
"P.S. Keep your eyes open for the unveiling of our next game very soon. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif "
...probably Shadow Warrior Mobile...in other words, who cares anymore, DUKE IS DEAD. DNF's only purpose in life anymore is to be the subject of April Fool's Day jokes.
FireFly
04-01-2005, 11:29 AM
avatar_58 said:
FireFly said:
Even if it not DNF it's still from 3DR, and that's what matters.
Thing is....and I've feared....what if they haven't "got it" anymore? No disrespect...but it has been some time since I've seen their label on someting that wasn't just published by them.
I feel like I'm about to be trampled by a stampede of Duke fans....just remember I still play Duke3d as well! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
What is "it" anyway? That's the question.
avatar_58
04-01-2005, 11:34 AM
FireFly said:
What is "it" anyway? That's the question.
*raises finger to his mouth*
The right stuff. The labido....what the french call a certain.....I don't know what...
KaiserSoze
04-01-2005, 11:41 AM
it could still be dnf being "unveiled".
remember, we have no clue what it looks like, nor have many details of the game at all.
for them to show it off would indeed be an "unveiling".
/crosses fingers
lonestar
04-01-2005, 11:51 AM
it's dnf or else not a game developed by 3drealms because george said, they're all working on dnf. so, it's some third-party support by 3dr. for a game which will be sweet, because 3drealms is involved.
dnf.. no.. actually.. no. it sounds too unbelievable!
Mr.DJ
04-01-2005, 11:55 AM
Come on guys, don't build something up around something you know(deep inside)won't happen! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
But I think we should be excited about the aspect that "something" which 3drealms has given its "blessing", is going to be unveiled! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
Perhaps something is up with Human he*cough* who said that? Don't know were that came from! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Evil Angel
04-01-2005, 11:56 AM
I'm betting this is a mobile game or something like that. It's a cruel and horrible joke I tells ya. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
KaiserSoze
04-01-2005, 11:57 AM
it's dnf.
i'll eat my undewear if it isn't.
Mr.DJ
04-01-2005, 11:58 AM
KaiserSoze said:
i'll eat my undewear if it isn't.
Do you have a camera? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Parkar
04-01-2005, 11:58 AM
KaiserSoze said:
it's dnf.
i'll eat my undewear if it isn't.
I demand evidience in the form of a picture if its not http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
edit: thinking about it you chose the right day to use that one and get away without having to eat your "words"http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
FireFly
04-01-2005, 11:59 AM
KaiserSoze said:
it's dnf.
i'll eat my undewear if it isn't.
Seriously?
DK2000
04-01-2005, 12:01 PM
Couldn't it also mean the release of an other Source Code?!?
If it would be that, what game would be left that's "old enough" to release its Source Code? Max Payne?!?
Still I WANT TO BELIVE that it is Duke Nukem Forever even though it's 1.April and we were talking about 3DR who already released "Duke Nukem Forever - The fanvideo" if you remember... - but somehow i can't!
Evil Angel
04-01-2005, 12:05 PM
Whatever it is I bet the 3DR guys are enjoying watching us squirm. Damn you!
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ted.jpg
SyntaxN
04-01-2005, 12:07 PM
I hope it is DNF, but I think 3drīs definition for "very soon" is "between 1 week and 9 years" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Duoae
04-01-2005, 12:09 PM
From reading that and considering it was reported in the same new post as the shadow Warrior source code release.... it made me think that they are releasing another Shadow Warrior game.... don't know if anyone has said that (excluding SW mobile.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif)
Emultra
04-01-2005, 12:10 PM
Shadow Warrior 2: Dark Places.
Duoae
04-01-2005, 12:13 PM
Nah, too similar in title to Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 (or Dark forces 2: Jedi Knight)...
Needs to be catchier... i never played SW, so i have no idea as to what the game was like....
Emultra
04-01-2005, 12:16 PM
It was a little weird, but cool. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Shadow Warrior 2: Yo Dang, Lo Wang!!
Parkar
04-01-2005, 12:17 PM
Just to make one thing clear its not an sw game. Its been state several times that there will most likely NEVER be another sw game.
Duoae
04-01-2005, 12:19 PM
Parkar said:
Just to make one thing clear its not an sw game. Its been state several times that there will most likely NEVER be another sw game.
Stated that there will most likely never be another SW game.... When was the last time they said that? Two years ago? A year and a half? Before the development of this new game? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
[EDIT]
It might just be based in the SW universe http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Besides - i'm not sure whether it would be DNF or the as-yet unreleased New IP they have....... too early in development i feel..... unless they've been working flat-out on both since 2000 -ish...
Maybe 3DR have 3 games to release..... now that's interesting....
Parkar
04-01-2005, 12:21 PM
Less then a month ago.
Edit:
3 days ago by joe3dr in the cool ida for sw fans thread.
Why does everyone assume that everything has to have a sequel? When I see posts like "I don't understand why" all I can think of is "Well, what makes you assume a sequel is desired or necessary"?
Not everything gets one, you know.
What's more disappointing to me is that the couple of addons that were planned were scrapped.
Not realy a statment, still looking for that.
edit2:
here is the one I meant. its about 2 weeks old from the "after dnf" thread in other apogee forum.
Joe3DR said:
I actually have never deleted ANY threads due to age in this forum. Look at the oldest posts, they go back to 1998. Because this forum covers so many older titles that there's little info on anymore, I decided to never purge this particular forum.
But I think it's safe to say we'll never do another Shadow Warrior. Yeah, I know you'll say "maybe, who knows". But I work here. My gut feeling says no.
trackit
04-01-2005, 12:27 PM
I hate to bring it to you guys but i think this is some kind of a joke...
I dont think that they will unveil some new game... cause they said all the team is working on DNF... And its too unbelivable that it is DNF... and today is 1-st april...
...and of course "soon" is very relative term...
KaiserSoze
04-01-2005, 12:35 PM
FireFly said:
KaiserSoze said:
it's dnf.
i'll eat my undewear if it isn't.
Seriously?
absolutely seriously. i'll post pictures too.
Kristian Joensen
04-01-2005, 12:36 PM
avatar_58 said:
FireFly said:
Even if it not DNF it's still from 3DR, and that's what matters.
Thing is....and I've feared....what if they haven't "got it" anymore? No disrespect...but it has been some time since I've seen their label on someting that wasn't just published by them.
3D Realms didn't publish Max Payne at all, Take 2 / Rockstar where the publishers.
3D Realms where much more creatively involveld than any publisher at all, they gave Remedy creative input, business advice, helped market the game, sell it, funded it, etc.
Evil Angel
04-01-2005, 12:36 PM
trackit said:
I hate to bring it to you guys but i think this is some kind of a joke...
I dont think that they will unveil some new game... cause they said all the team is working on DNF... And its too unbelivable that it is DNF... and today is 1-st april...
...and of course "soon" is very relative term...
Well this is either a genuine April fool, a very clever April fools bluff to keep us all second guessing or something about a different game to DNF.
Place your bets!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
ikkejw
04-01-2005, 12:37 PM
If it's DNF, I think I'm gonna be sick.
KaiserSoze said:
FireFly said:
KaiserSoze said:
it's dnf.
i'll eat my undewear if it isn't.
Seriously?
absolutely seriously. i'll post pictures too.
If you get into a vegetative state, do you want to be unplugged in NY (pun intended) or not?
Parkar
04-01-2005, 12:41 PM
They call it producing. At least thats what it says in max payne 2 at the begning "Developed by Remedy, Produced by 3DRealms" or something like that.
This game(asuming it is the one I belive it is) has the same kind of setup but with a diffrent company. It was mentioned in an interview with Scott Miller a little more then a year ago (if I remeber correctly). Or maybe it wass a post on some kind of message board somewere, can't remeber but he said it would be announced sometime in 2004.
KaiserSoze
04-01-2005, 12:54 PM
Parkar said:
They call it producing. At least thats what it says in max payne 2 at the begning "Developed by Remedy, Produced by 3DRealms" or something like that.
This game(asuming it is the one I belive it is) has the same kind of setup but with a diffrent company. It was mentioned in an interview with Scott Miller a little more then a year ago (if I remeber correctly). Or maybe it wass a post on some kind of message board somewere, can't remeber but he said it would be announced sometime in 2004.
my best guess: human head working with 3dr. fps. either "bombshell" or "prey".
human head is supposed to show it off at this year's e3.
actually...i should probably get some salt and pepper for my drawers.....i think this "secret" project is what joe was referrring to. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
Duoae
04-01-2005, 01:09 PM
KaiserSoze said:
my best guess: human head working with 3dr. fps. either "bombshell" or "prey".
human head is supposed to show it off at this year's e3.
If only it was Prey! I love that game.....-'s preimse.... er yeah....
Anyway, i had/have circumstantial evidence to keep the hope of Prey being released alive......
Megami
04-01-2005, 01:34 PM
I logged in here and saw that Shadow Warrior source thing, and seeing a thread about releasing that code like.. yesterday.
At first I thought it was an april fools joke.... then again, maybe it was that little PS note. Also, it didnt SAY it was DNF so dont get hopes up :P
But god, I agree. Its from 3DR...Chances are im going to buy it ^_^
*has been listening to DN:MP theme and first boss music for almost a day now* ^^ My need for Duke has just exploded... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Megami
04-01-2005, 01:38 PM
trackit said:
...and of course "soon" is very relative term...
Maybe DNF has been upgraded from WID to soon?
Although judging by WID soon could be another year or two at least by 3DR's standard http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-01-2005, 01:38 PM
How could the ps stuff be a april fools joke ?
How could we possibly ever find out ?
3D Realms producing Serious Sam 2?
Megami
04-01-2005, 01:45 PM
Haha... way to miss the topic :P
Although.. I would like to see how that turned out if it ever happened. Croteam is awesome, 3DR is awesome.. therefore
Croteam + 3DR = to quote Unreal Tournament "GODLIKE" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-01-2005, 02:08 PM
GOK said:
3D Realms producing Serious Sam 2?
Nope, it is an original IP.
SyntaxN
04-01-2005, 02:15 PM
Maybe DNF has been upgraded from WID to soon?
Yes, that is possible!
In the other thread (I think it was deleted or Iīm to stupid to find it) George said that theyīve some dates for things, possibly they know concretely what they want to do this time!
BADGER
04-01-2005, 02:26 PM
Wouldn't the term "unveiling" refer to a new product in the works? I would have considered the DNF project already unveiled.
lonestar
04-01-2005, 02:39 PM
3drealms + croteam = some ass kicking uber-action game
they did a good job with serious sam. coop really got me. hopefully the sequel will be out this year. there have been nothing new about it for quite some time.
3drealms is working on dnf.. and prey for years. that would be da bomb.
crunchy superman
04-01-2005, 02:54 PM
Why would anyone take any bit of news on the internet seriously today?
Evil Angel
04-01-2005, 03:05 PM
crunchysuperman said:
Why would anyone take any bit of news on the internet seriously today?
Absolutely
thehoss
04-01-2005, 03:18 PM
"very soon"...
Day of Defeat: Source was announced to be released "soon" and even "early this spring" and it still hasn't been released (although they at least have a closed beta). So, Valve said "soon" and they have a working, playable closed beta whereas 3DR is saying "very soon" and they have N-O-T-H-I-N-G. 3DR=vaporware
Kristian Joensen
04-01-2005, 03:23 PM
How to you know they have nothing. ?
SyntaxN
04-01-2005, 03:29 PM
How to you know they have nothing. ?
I think he said that because they havenīt released anything since 2001....
FireFly
04-01-2005, 03:37 PM
thehoss said:
"very soon"...
Day of Defeat: Source was announced to be released "soon" and even "early this spring" and it still hasn't been released (although they at least have a closed beta). So, Valve said "soon" and they have a working, playable closed beta whereas 3DR is saying "very soon" and they have N-O-T-H-I-N-G. 3DR=vaporware
Yes, just like TF2 has been on "very soon" for over a year now, and we haven't seen anything at all.
Parkar
04-01-2005, 03:40 PM
TF2 is almost as delayed as DNF. Remeber watching the early video clips a year or so after hl. Or was it even eralier?
FireFly
04-01-2005, 03:50 PM
Haha, I've just checked and the game was still in development in 1998. Looks like a contender for the DNF throne.
Parkar
04-01-2005, 03:56 PM
Yea, remeber now how I burned a cd with a bunch of trailer and stuff(was running out of hd space and 100meg was enough to clear som space back then). had the prey, dnf, tf2, maxpayne with some other most wanted games.
Mr.Fibbles
04-01-2005, 03:56 PM
Last i checked human head isnt at E3, 3DR isnt at E3, so E3 is out of the question, sorry yal. and also George and Joe or someone said that E3 was out of the question too.
Prey would be awesome, considering that the previews from when it was being made by 3DR blew away the competition even now. so if they have tranfered rights to do it to someone(human head) it has the potential to rock, providing that they didnt scratch the engine. I am interested in seeing what 3DR has in store for us though, and that PS could be anythign.
George Broussard
04-01-2005, 05:11 PM
thehoss said:3DR=vaporware
Nope.
SyntaxN
04-01-2005, 05:15 PM
Quote:
thehoss said:3DR=vaporware
Nope.
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
I think George is the guy who must know it! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Tim. Just Tim.
04-01-2005, 05:19 PM
It is funny however, that April 1 is always one of the highest traffic days for the DNF forum (wow 20+ people lol), simply because sites and forums all over the internet are making DNF jokes, causing people to come here.
And every year the same suckers fall into it.
JackpotDen
04-01-2005, 05:37 PM
what sites had dnf jokes?
Mr.Blud
04-01-2005, 05:38 PM
How can a company be vaporware?
MegaMustaine
04-01-2005, 05:50 PM
Strange how George didn't move this thread or close it. Maybe it really is DNF. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Simon Charles
04-01-2005, 06:03 PM
Joe closed the SW statement with a joke. It's not Duke. Live with it.
tpz said:
And every year the same suckers fall into it.
One year will be the good one. I hope. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
Emultra
04-01-2005, 07:06 PM
Hey, sorry about that pizza post. It was a joke. I'm a fan of Duke and 3D Realms. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
thehoss
04-02-2005, 12:49 AM
wow, a response from George himself, I'm honored....now for my response:
"nope"
PROVE IT!
Couldn't we just wait until DNF comes out, instead of asking questions and begging for release dates, specs, and what not? A year goes by pretty fast you know.
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
brandon9271
04-02-2005, 01:26 AM
one year yes... but 10 years... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
George Broussard
04-02-2005, 02:18 AM
thehoss said:
wow, a response from George himself, I'm honored....now for my response:
"nope"
PROVE IT!
Gonna. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
luke88
04-02-2005, 02:33 AM
George Broussard said:
thehoss said:
wow, a response from George himself, I'm honored....now for my response:
"nope"
PROVE IT!
Gonna. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
When? *cough*
KaiserSoze
04-02-2005, 02:39 AM
i officially lost man. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
seriously guys, don't get too excited here, i know i'm not....i mean don't get me wrong, duke nukem forever is THE most anticipated game on my list to date.....i have never been so excited about a game in my life...
you know some peopel get excited about movies, some about football games or sports or something....well i get excited about games and this is THE game thati am most excited about....
but to be honest it's just a big april fools...sorry
Duoae
04-02-2005, 02:58 AM
George Broussard said:
thehoss said:
wow, a response from George himself, I'm honored....now for my response:
"nope"
PROVE IT!
Gonna. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
LOL! That is the funniest quip i've read in a long time....
KaiserSoze
04-02-2005, 03:00 AM
P.S. Keep your eyes open for the unveiling of our next game very soon. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
hmmm. i'm really trying to decipher this.
"keep your eyes open"-this won't be an announcement of a new game....this is something we'll *see* in terms of it in action.
"unveiling"-the world has not seen duke nukem forever since 2001 and that was scrapped. it would truly be an "unveiling"...showing it for the first time in it's new state.
"our next game"-their next game has been Duke Nukem Forever. even though they're supposedly helping another team with a game(producing it) would they claim that game as their "own"? i don't think so.
seems to be alot of cryptic stuff being tossed about.
i can't help but think this is indeed DUKE NUKEM FOREVER.
we just don't know when.
Mr.Blud
04-02-2005, 03:32 AM
I believe that if they meant something besides DNF, they would've used.
"announcement" as opposed to "unveiling"
I'm officially giddy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
RedSplat
04-02-2005, 03:44 AM
DNF = When It's Done.
Next Game = Very Soon.
Capisce? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
KaiserSoze
04-02-2005, 03:49 AM
RedSplat said:
DNF = When It's Done.
Next Game = Very Soon.
Capisce? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
/shoots self
SyntaxN
04-02-2005, 03:51 AM
If itīs a *new* game it wouldnīt be produced by 3dr!
I think they wonīt make the same mistakes again, the parallel development of Prey and DNF wasnīt very effective...
Needle
04-02-2005, 04:20 AM
KaiserSoze said:
RedSplat said:
DNF = When It's Done.
Next Game = Very Soon.
Capisce? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
/shoots self
Bon Appétit!
Do we only get photos or a whole film?
Emultra
04-02-2005, 05:09 AM
George Broussard said:
thehoss said:
wow, a response from George himself, I'm honored....now for my response:
"nope"
PROVE IT!
Gonna. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
He works so much that he can only write single words on the forum.
I knew things are going well. And something is after all in the doings for the following year; it will be interesting.
RedSplat
04-02-2005, 05:20 AM
Bon Appétit!
http://thijs.saalmink.nl/eatshorts.jpg
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
KaiserSoze
04-02-2005, 05:24 AM
RedSplat said:
Bon Appétit!
http://thijs.saalmink.nl/eatshorts.jpg
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
does that mean i'm gonna eat my boxors? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif
i hope not.
Lotan
04-02-2005, 05:25 AM
I'm just think that if they actually unveil DNF on April 1st like showing screenshots, it'll be very funny. Because most of the sites post about that and nobody of course believe them. Or maybe even nobody believe 3dr.
KaiserSoze
04-02-2005, 05:26 AM
Lotan said:
I'm just think that if they actually unveil DNF on April 1st like showing screenshots, it'll be very funny. Because most of the sites post about that and nobody of course believe them. Or maybe even nobody believe 3dr.
the problem with that is it's april 2 now.
JackpotDen
04-02-2005, 05:31 AM
KaiserSoze said:
we just don't know when.
June/e3
trackit
04-02-2005, 06:18 AM
The more i think about it the more i come to conclusion that it really is DNF!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
I say we are gonna see DNF in month or two!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
The hype will start!!!!
Kristian Joensen
04-02-2005, 06:32 AM
SyntaxN said:
If itīs a *new* game it wouldnīt be produced by 3dr!
I think they wonīt make the same mistakes again, the parallel development of Prey and DNF wasnīt very effective...
Their only internal game is DNF.
lonestar
04-02-2005, 07:12 AM
can't help myself but the last two responses by george "the man" broussard totally blew my mind. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
Drazula
04-02-2005, 08:01 AM
George Broussard said:
thehoss said:
wow, a response from George himself, I'm honored....now for my response:
"nope"
PROVE IT!
Gonna. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Hey, GB. Nice to see ya posting.
Geez, these kids today are so skeptical and have such little faith. Where do they get that from? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Good luck with DNF.
dudetheman19
04-02-2005, 08:20 AM
George Broussard said:
thehoss said:3DR=vaporware
Nope.
Hey notise he wrote this on April 1st http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Maybe it's an aprilfool???? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
Darktalyn
04-02-2005, 09:41 AM
One day...
Needle
04-02-2005, 10:12 AM
dudetheman19 said:
Hey notise he wrote this on April 1st http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Maybe it's an aprilfool???? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
But... he knows we would know its April 1st. So maybe it's true and he's fooling us into not beliving it. Or maybe he knows that we know that he knows....
I need my pills. Head hurts again.
Crash_7
04-02-2005, 10:15 AM
George Broussard said:
Gonna. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Hmmmm. Someone's feeling fiesty today.
He could be drunk
I doubt it.
I think that George just like to tease us.
RedSplat
04-02-2005, 11:30 AM
He's not teasing...He's torturing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Oh, the agony!
FireFly
04-02-2005, 11:49 AM
The game was probably cancelled years ago anyway.
SyntaxN
04-02-2005, 12:18 PM
The game was probably cancelled years ago anyway.
haha, yes, and there are just this two guys called George Broussard and Joseph Michael Siegler who still think that they are developing DNF!
In reality they sit in a dirty room in the ruins of the 3dr hq while talking to persons who donīt exist http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
No seriously, I think theyīve made the final "choice" for the games design in 2002 and developing since then...
lonestar
04-02-2005, 12:42 PM
RedSplat said:
He's not teasing...He's torturing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Oh, the agony!
we are george's marionettes. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Micki!
04-02-2005, 01:04 PM
George Broussard said:
thehoss said:
wow, a response from George himself, I'm honored....now for my response:
"nope"
PROVE IT!
Gonna. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Does that mean that we won't see Kaiser eat his underwear..?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
MegaMustaine
04-02-2005, 01:29 PM
Hmm, George has made this thread very interesting.
Rider
04-02-2005, 04:23 PM
MegaMustaine said:
Hmm, George has made this thread very interesting.
I'll say
*grabs popcorn
lonestar
04-02-2005, 05:07 PM
Micki! said:
George Broussard said:
thehoss said:
wow, a response from George himself, I'm honored....now for my response:
"nope"
PROVE IT!
Gonna. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Does that mean that we won't see Kaiser eat his underwear..?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
actually, he should eat his underwear if it is what we're hoping for.
KaiserSoze
04-02-2005, 10:14 PM
i might have to go buy those edible undies because i'm back towards thinking this is *NOT* duke nukem forever.
laffer
04-02-2005, 10:55 PM
OK, April 1 is long gone. Can any official guys tell us if it was a joke or not?
Thanks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
KaiserSoze
04-02-2005, 11:21 PM
laffer said:
OK, April 1 is long gone. Can any official guys tell us if it was a joke or not?
Thanks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
not a joke.
charlie a.k.a. weider3dr gave me his blessing to "pursue" the mystery regarding that front page blurb so i'll share 2 *hints?* he may have given me:
There is enough information out there to determine what it's most likely about... but I'm not saying a damn thing *evil grin*.
One of our oldest fans ever (I'm talking really really old, pre Duke 3D days) has predicted we'd be doing this a LOOOONG time ago. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
o.k. guys, get to work! what is it? a follow up to commander keen? a keen fps? a prey game? could he still mean dnf? i'm really at a dead end here. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
Little Conqueror
04-02-2005, 11:32 PM
I'm shooting for Keen, but I'm doubting it at the same time.
Pre Duke 3D? That rules out DNF, or Prey or Shadow Warrior for that matter.
One probalo: id, last I checked, owns exclusive rights to Commander Keen, and has no plans to sell it.
One possible explanation: 3DR talked them out of it.
Another, more likely explanation: It's not Keen.
So, what else is there? ...Xenophage 2? (PLEASE SAY YES http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif )
KaiserSoze
04-02-2005, 11:37 PM
Little Conqueror said:
I'm shooting for Keen, but I'm doubting it at the same time.
Pre Duke 3D? That rules out DNF, or Prey or Shadow Warrior for that matter.
One probalo: id, last I checked, owns exclusive rights to Commander Keen, and has no plans to sell it.
One possible explanation: 3DR talked them out of it.
Another, more likely explanation: It's not Keen.
So, what else is there? ...Xenophage 2? (PLEASE SAY YES http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif )
the problem with all those guesses is that charlie said "there's enough information out there" to guess what it's about.
i have not seen/read anything that remotely points to older 3dr games getting a sequel or followup like keen or xenophage.
He said the fan has been around since before Duke3D, not that the game franchise in question necessarily has been. One may lead to the other, but I think we mainly have to try to figure out who he's talking about and start reading old threads.
KaiserSoze
04-02-2005, 11:42 PM
Ras said:
He said the fan has been around since before Duke3D, not that the game franchise in question necessarily has been. One may lead to the other, but I think we mainly have to try to figure out who he's talking about and start reading old threads.
good point. the duke 3d part was throwing me off a bit.
here's a guess but it's out there.
there's been a huge amount of shadow warrior talk lately.
george has said lo wang would not be in dnf.
could we *possibly* be getting a shadow warrior 2?
Little Conqueror
04-02-2005, 11:53 PM
I'm looking at the "LOOOOOOOOONG time ago" bit. Of course, how long ago exactly was that? That's what we need to figure out.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 12:01 AM
Little Conqueror said:
I'm looking at the "LOOOOOOOOONG time ago" bit. Of course, how long ago exactly was that? That's what we need to figure out.
alright, since it seems shadow warrior has been talked about alot recently and the fact that the blurb "watch for the unveiling of our next game soon" happens to be in the same press release as the sw source, i'm going with SHADOW WARRIOR 2! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
also i've noticed stephen3dr lurking alot lately(not that it really means anything) and he's on record saying he'd push for a shadow warrior 2(his post i've got linked here is from 1999)
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/sh...true#Post142667 (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=apogee&Number=142667&Searchpage=1&Main=142659&Words=+Stephen3DR&topic=&Search=true#Post142667)
who's developing SHADOW WARRIOR 2? well that would be HUMAN HEAD STUDIOS(using the Doom 3 engine) in association with 3DREALMS with help from LIQUID ENTERTAINMENT.
i'm highly confident this is it.
george-can we get a dnf screenie for a reward? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
It was just days ago that Joe said never to expect another Shadow Warrior, as management didn't want it. I think you can rule that out.
Here's what he said:
But I think it's safe to say we'll never do another Shadow Warrior. Yeah, I know you'll say "maybe, who knows". But I work here. My gut feeling says no.
And:
Because managment doesn't want to do it. It's as simple as that.
It's in this thread:
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/sh...true#Post807713 (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=apogee&Number=807713&Searchpage=2&Main=595541&Words=Joe3DR&topic=&Search=true#Post807713)
Sorry, just the messenger. I'm just crushed that we likely aren't going to be seeing DNF screens/vids real soon, like I was starting to believe we would.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 12:13 AM
Ras said:
It was just days ago that Joe said never to expect another Shadow Warrior, as management didn't want it. I think you can rule that out.
nope.
i'm sticking with shadow warrior 2.
that's my final answer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
KaiserSoze said:
who's developing SHADOW WARRIOR 2? well that would be HUMAN HEAD STUDIOS(using the Doom 3 engine) in association with 3DREALMS with help from LIQUID ENTERTAINMENT.
i'm highly confident this is it.
george-can we get a dnf screenie for a reward? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Well, you sure are getting indepth arent ya, Kaiser? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I bet you your copy of DNF when its released that this is NOT what Joe meant/
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 12:22 AM
John said:
KaiserSoze said:
who's developing SHADOW WARRIOR 2? well that would be HUMAN HEAD STUDIOS(using the Doom 3 engine) in association with 3DREALMS with help from LIQUID ENTERTAINMENT.
i'm highly confident this is it.
george-can we get a dnf screenie for a reward? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Well, you sure are getting indepth arent ya, Kaiser? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
I bet you your copy of DNF when its released that this is NOT what Joe meant/
from my understanding, joe did not write any of that on the front page. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
i'd never give up my copy of dnf so i can't bet.
dark_angel
04-03-2005, 12:25 AM
you guys are just Hilarious http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I will go for SW2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
could it be ? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
Kaiser, I'm not sure if you've thought of this, but go to the User List, and you can sort on the date people registered. Maybe you'll find some likely candidates for our mystery guesser. As far as "famous" Apogee/3D Realms fans, I think Lon Matero is the number one choice. I also remember some guys called the Viens brothers, I think. Andre Viens? They were big Apogee fans long ago. Not sure if they posted here, though. Lon did, and his posts are still viewable.
from my understanding, joe did not write any of that on the front page. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
i'd never give up my copy of dnf so i can't bet.
Why wouldnt he write it? Isn't he the webmaster/site administrator? He basically formats everything and inserts the content, right?
If not then there are more staff members at 3DR than I thought. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 12:27 AM
dark_angel said:
you guys are just Hilarious http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I will go for SW2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
could it be ? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
it's not. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
sigh. i give up.
i guess the only obvious game would be dnf but whatever..........
/goes to lay in corner in fetal position
Ok ok guys let Kaiser have his dream. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
MegaMustaine
04-03-2005, 12:30 AM
I actually agree with kaiser on this one. Think about it. It would make sense to bring back SW with what is popular in gaming these days. Can you imagine lo wang in a cinematic martial arts game. Something just makes sense about their incessant denials of the games existance too. Make us think it is DNF. This is why this thread might still be open and not locked. Since when have we been able to speculate about DNF this much, unless maybe it is a diversion from the truth.
Needle
04-03-2005, 01:12 AM
Why would they do SW 2 when they could just as well do RotT 2? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
MegaMustaine
04-03-2005, 01:12 AM
Hmm before I make my midnight taco bell run, I thought I would give another canidate for a remake with the Doom 3 engine if it is infact Human Head studios working on the game. Rise of the Triad. This is really the only other possible game in my opinion that could be popular with a remake, and I think could fit in with kaiser's clues as well.
Edit: needle beat me to it
Dreams
04-03-2005, 03:37 AM
One of our oldest fans ever (I'm talking really really old, pre Duke 3D days) has predicted we'd be doing this a LOOOONG time ago. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
maybe he's talking about Duke Nukem 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Lotan
04-03-2005, 04:14 AM
MegaMustaine said:
Hmm before I make my midnight taco bell run, I thought I would give another canidate for a remake with the Doom 3 engine if it is infact Human Head studios working on the game. Rise of the Triad. This is really the only other possible game in my opinion that could be popular with a remake, and I think could fit in with kaiser's clues as well.
Watch the camera captioning contest. Charlie in Tokyo.
I didn't play RotT, but isn't it in Japan based?
Whatever it is, Kaiser already lost its bet, because he betted for too many candidates.
I claim the full motion video from him eating his undies.
And edible ones is cheating.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 04:29 AM
i'm still digging around.
i did find this quote from joe about "prey"-it's never been officially canned, only "on hold". this still doesn't tie in to charlie saying there's enough out there to get an idea what game it is. i've heard squat about prey being resurrected.
this is a quote taken from 2002:
joe:
Correct - it was never EVER killed. Only "on hold" despite what you may have read. And our stance in 1997 (or 1998 - I can't remember at the moment without looking it up) still has not changed.
Prey is officially on hold - the decision on what to do with it has not been made, and won't be made until DNF is out and finished (and we don't have more work to do on it (patches, etc)).
Does this confirm or deny the rumour? I can't speak to that, because people will twist whatever I say to fit what they want to believe anyway. I'm just repeating our stance on Prey which hasn't changed since we last messed with it some years ago.
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/sh...true#Post153251 (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=apogee&Number=153251&Searchpage=1&Main=153228&Words=+Maarten+Goldstein&topic=&Search=true#Post153251)
Rider
04-03-2005, 04:42 AM
So where do we stand?
Prey? - No, not until DNF is done.
Rott2? - Who knows! If they still have all the rights...
SW2? - Probably not
DNF? - seems likely, but I get the idea that's not all they're making right now...
Bio Menace FPS? Good Lord I hope so!
Beelze
04-03-2005, 04:48 AM
So, basically, we still know nothing.
... Excellent.
Viper Knight
04-03-2005, 04:50 AM
I thought it would be something completely new. Failing that, (stab in the dark) maybe a Terminal Velocity 2? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Actually, I think the safest bet would be Rise of the Triad 2 because that was developed by Apogee internally. Hmm...
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 04:54 AM
Rider said:
So where do we stand?
Prey? - No, not until DNF is done.
3dr could still have it made by another studio and 3dr would produce it.
Rott2? - Who knows! If they still have all the rights...
i don't think it will be rot 2.
SW2? - Probably not
i've gotten a strong denial of it being sw2.
DNF? - seems likely, but I get the idea that's not all they're making right now...
from what's been said in the not to distant past, all of 3dr are working exclusively on duke nukem forever.
whatever the answer is, we're supposed to hopefully hear more next month.
Bio Menace FPS? Good Lord I hope so!
[/QUOTE]
MegaMustaine
04-03-2005, 05:01 AM
I think you will be able to dig up the most dirt here. http://dukenukem.typepad.com/
SyntaxN
04-03-2005, 05:03 AM
I think the game isnīt from 3dr, but it could be SW2 because he just said that they (3dr) wouldnīt make it!
Anyway, I hope this wonīt end like it did the last time, *DNF will be out before the game which is produced by [X]....*
And I wonīt be sooo excited about a SW2, I want DNF from 3dr and thats all! (donīt get me wrong, SW2 would be cool, but since years 3dr just trys to "throw" products on the market, except DNF!)
MegaMustaine
04-03-2005, 05:16 AM
http://dukenukem.typepad.com/game_matters/2003/11/first_post_a_te.html
Whatever the hell it is it has at least been in development since 2003.
Viper Knight
04-03-2005, 05:31 AM
I think it's going to be a bombshell, that's for sure! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Exciting times ahead... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 06:31 AM
I'm still betting it's a mobile game. Probably Shadow Warrior seeing as the comment is posted in the April fool about SW source. Think about it. They could have picked one of their other games to make that April fool about but they picked SW.
D3D was released on mobile February 2nd. Doesn't it make sense that they have other games lined up to go mobile, the most obvious one being SW. And seeing as it is so close to the release of the D3D mobile game.
Viper Knight
04-03-2005, 06:40 AM
Hmm, I think it's going to be something bigger than a mobile game. I don't see it being feasible hyping us up just over something as little as that. But, that's just my feeling. 3D Realms hasn't unveiled something big for a while now and I think something big is coming (besides DNF http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif) ...
Parkar
04-03-2005, 06:44 AM
Evil Angel said:
I'm still betting it's a mobile game. Probably Shadow Warrior seeing as the comment is posted in the April fool about SW source. Think about it. They could have picked one of their other games to make that April fool about but they picked SW.
D3D was released on mobile February 2nd. Doesn't it make sense that they have other games lined up to go mobile, the most obvious one being SW. And seeing as it is so close to the release of the D3D mobile game.
Dude, the sw source code release is not a joke. There is already 2 ports of the darn thing.
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 06:55 AM
I don't see anybody hyping anybody up about anything. I see a one sentence comment made on APRIL FOOLS DAY for crying out loud and then a load of fuss made over it. If the source isn't the fool (nice to see what jonof does with this) then the comment is.
Hasn't Joe and George always said don't look for signs. We don't need signs because when it happens we will know about it loud and clear. I know this is a little different as it comes direct from the horses mouth and mentions a game but to do it on April fools!! Come on guys. I want it to be DNF of course but this just smells like misdirection. If it is DNF I can only think it relates to E3 or something direct from 3DR around that time frame. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Parkar
04-03-2005, 07:18 AM
who is saying its dnf? Maybe this thread should be moved to "other apogee/3DRealms" games forum.
Look for signs? The mentioned they will unveill a new game soon. Is speculating what it is looking for signs?
I thought the comment was maybe a april fools joke at first but if it was it should have been confirmed to be an april fools joke by now. What fun is a april fools joke if the ones you are fooling don't know they've been fooled?
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 07:23 AM
The 3RD party game can't be SW2 why ?
Because of two things, they have said several tiems that their won't be a SW2 and the 3RD party game is a new IP.
So it isn't a sequel to any game what so ever.
KaiserSoze said:
One of our oldest fans ever (I'm talking really really old, pre Duke 3D days) has predicted we'd be doing this a LOOOONG time ago. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
KaiserSoze in this quote Charlie is not saying that the prediction was made in the pre Duke 3D days but only that the fan has been around since then.
Also, Charlie said their was enough information out there.
The only think I can think of is a comment about a female Duke Nukem, made by Scott Miller on his blog.
I think:
Female Duke Nukem = Bombshell.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 07:47 AM
Parkar said:
I thought the comment was maybe a april fools joke at first but if it was it should have been confirmed to be an april fools joke by now. What fun is a april fools joke if the ones you are fooling don't know they've been fooled?
i thought this was already covered?
i contacted charlie(who's always nice about returning pm's) and this is legit. they are not "fooling around".
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
i'm back leaning towards duke nukem forever.
maybe bombshell.
could be prey though.
probably not shadow warrior 2 but......
:doh
p.s. kristian-clear out your pm's. your box is always full man! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 07:55 AM
KaiserSoze said:
Parkar said:
I thought the comment was maybe a april fools joke at first but if it was it should have been confirmed to be an april fools joke by now. What fun is a april fools joke if the ones you are fooling don't know they've been fooled?
i thought this was already covered?
i contacted charlie(who's always nice about returning pm's) and this is legit. they are not "fooling around".
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
i'm back leaning towards duke nukem forever.
maybe bombshell.
could be prey though.
probably not shadow warrior 2 but......
:doh
p.s. kristian-clear out your pm's. your box is always full man! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
It was cos of me not reading the whole thread properly. Haven't been on since April 1st http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif I've now read your other posts about what Charlie said and this is getting stranger by the minute. Left me completely stumped. All I can say is it doesn't seem like DNF at all now but some other game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif I was sure it was just gunna be a mobile game but it does seem bigger than that. 3DR have got a 3rd party game in the works haven't they? Maybe it's that. Is it definately not SW2
Ronald McDonald
04-03-2005, 08:04 AM
Anywayz, we'll prolly see the mystery game released about 4-5 months after unveiling.
Just like what happened with MP2. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
zwieback
04-03-2005, 08:04 AM
as an old naive forum mebmer, I still belive that it IS DukeForver!
Kaizer! Join me ! :-)
why?
It's not prey. i think, if you work for some years on a game - you will not outsource the whole work. at least, i wouldn't..
shadow warrior 2 ? No, i don't think so. - Could be, but like prey, i dont think that you REALLY going to outsource such a "trademark"..
there is one game, which we all like and know and we all are waiting for it:
ITEZ DUKENUKEMFOREVUR!!
I don't want a SW2.. so I hope it's DNF, and I'm going with that! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 08:10 AM
It's just this comment doesn't really fit with it being DNF.
"One of our oldest fans ever (I'm talking really really old, pre Duke 3D days) has predicted we'd be doing this a LOOOONG time ago."
How can that fan have predicted DNF before D3D was even released. Surely he would have predicted D3D first. What was the prediction exactly? It just doesn't add up.
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 08:14 AM
As I said Charlie never said that the prediction was made before Duke3D just that the fan who made the prediction has been a fan since the before the Duke3D days.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 08:14 AM
zwieback said:
as an old naive forum mebmer, I still belive that it IS DukeForver!
Kaizer! Join me ! :-)
why?
It's not prey. i think, if you work for some years on a game - you will not outsource the whole work. at least, i wouldn't..
shadow warrior 2 ? No, i don't think so. - Could be, but like prey, i dont think that you REALLY going to outsource such a "trademark"..
there is one game, which we all like and know and we all are waiting for it:
ITEZ DUKENUKEMFOREVUR!!
zwie! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
you're entirely correct, i should have not doubted dnf. it's just got to be the game. it's about darn time imho.
i really can't see any other game fitting into what charlie hinted at especially the "there's enough info out there to probably guess what it is". i'm sorry but that only leads me to dnf. let the hype begin! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
let's keep our fingers crossed, next month could be huge. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
also, here's another hint from charlie-does it give away the game?
You'll probably figure it out in about a month and go "Oh duh!". No biggie. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 08:15 AM
Kristian Joensen said:
As I said Charlie never said that the prediction was made before Duke3D just that the fan who made the prediction has been a fan since the before the Duke3D days.
and that's a dead end in terms of investigating because i'm of the opinion he's talking about a fellow 3dr employee and chances are, they ain't gonna talk.
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 08:17 AM
Why do you think he is talking about a fellow 3DR employee ?
Duoae
04-03-2005, 08:21 AM
I'm still going with Prey..... that's all i'm gonna say....
Beelze
04-03-2005, 08:22 AM
I'd like a Bombshell game. We need an FPS lady to rival Cate Archer.
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 08:23 AM
But one big part of the original Prey concept was the amacing engine, the rumor that it is Prey also says that Human Head Studios is developing it using the Doom 3 engine.
Oh, and Talon Brave is not in any way a female Duke Nukem, he is not female at all.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 08:23 AM
Kristian Joensen said:
Why do you think he is talking about a fellow 3DR employee ?
because he says the person/fan predates duke 3d.
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 08:23 AM
I was looking back through the earliest registered users on here and some of these guys have thousands of posts. It would take eons to sieve through. Who knows it might not have been something even mentioned on here. An old fan predicted it. But did he predict it here?
In the user list there are about 2 dozen people registered in 1970. Are they 3DR staff?
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 08:26 AM
That would make him a 3DR employee how ?
Duoae
04-03-2005, 08:28 AM
Kristian Joensen said:
But one big part of the original Prey concept was the amacing engine, the rumor that it is Prey also says that Human Head Studios is developing it using the Doom 3 engine.
Where is that rumour from? I never heard that, however....
Oh, and Talon Brave is not in any way a female Duke Nukem, he is not female at all.
What the hell are you talking about?
Lotan
04-03-2005, 09:05 AM
KaiserSoze said:
you're entirely correct, i should have not doubted dnf. it's just got to be the game. it's about darn time imho.
i really can't see any other game fitting into what charlie hinted at especially the "there's enough info out there to probably guess what it is". i'm sorry but that only leads me to dnf. let the hype begin! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
It's probably DNF, but then I don't understand the prediction of an old fan? Unveiling of DNF someday? Well, it wasn't so hard to predict.
Maybe they have plans on some not-action game? RPG or strategy? Sports? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 09:11 AM
The 3D Realms brand was created for 3D Action games.
So unless they are gonna market the next game under the Apogee brand it will not be anything other than a FPS or TPS.
Parkar
04-03-2005, 09:12 AM
KaiserSoze said:
zwieback said:
as an old naive forum mebmer, I still belive that it IS DukeForver!
Kaizer! Join me ! :-)
why?
It's not prey. i think, if you work for some years on a game - you will not outsource the whole work. at least, i wouldn't..
shadow warrior 2 ? No, i don't think so. - Could be, but like prey, i dont think that you REALLY going to outsource such a "trademark"..
there is one game, which we all like and know and we all are waiting for it:
ITEZ DUKENUKEMFOREVUR!!
zwie! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
you're entirely correct, i should have not doubted dnf. it's just got to be the game. it's about darn time imho.
i really can't see any other game fitting into what charlie hinted at especially the "there's enough info out there to probably guess what it is". i'm sorry but that only leads me to dnf. let the hype begin! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
let's keep our fingers crossed, next month could be huge. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
also, here's another hint from charlie-does it give away the game?
You'll probably figure it out in about a month and go "Oh duh!". No biggie. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
That last one makes me belive we are trying to hard to figure it out and it will be more or less obvious once its revield. First thing that comes to mind considering that is max payne 3 but I don't think 3dr will have anything to do with development of anymore max payne games unless remedy is the developer and we know that they are not working on another max payne game.
It just feels like it should be the game scott mentioned last year, what ever that game is. I am pretty sure its either that game or dnf.
What ever game it is I can't wait to see what it is since 3dr /apogee has this "small" tendecy to be involde in the making of great games.
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 09:13 AM
Lotan said:
KaiserSoze said:
you're entirely correct, i should have not doubted dnf. it's just got to be the game. it's about darn time imho.
i really can't see any other game fitting into what charlie hinted at especially the "there's enough info out there to probably guess what it is". i'm sorry but that only leads me to dnf. let the hype begin! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
It's probably DNF, but then I don't understand the prediction of an old fan? Unveiling of DNF someday? Well, it wasn't so hard to predict.
Maybe they have plans on some not-action game? RPG or strategy? Sports? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Exactly. When you think about the comment and the prediction it doesn't seem right. Why would an old fan predict DNF even after D3D release? How would that prediction go?
3DR will make another FPS Duke at some point
The next Duke game will probably not be around until 2005
I can't see how that prediction would have gone for it to fit DNF.
trackit
04-03-2005, 09:14 AM
Damit, i just dont know what to think... I thought it was definately DNF, but after that Charlies comment about fan prediction this just dont seem right anymore...
How can somebody predict something that is officially anounced and known?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif I mean nobody can "predict" that 3DR will make Duke Nukem 4, cause we all knew that since D3D... The prediction can be only about something that is not already known...
And then again the other Charlies comment that there are plenty of info to make a correct gues... At least i havent heard much info about any other 3DR game... What i heard is that all the team is working on DNF...
And it can't be something totally new... Cause 3DR will definately not make that mistake again by anouncing something too early... That game must have been in development for some time by now.
The only possibility that seems most correct is that its the mystery game by third party developer...
EDIT: damn you guys beat me to it... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Dutch
04-03-2005, 09:15 AM
Wacky Wheels 2? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 09:17 AM
It won't be Max Payne 3 for several reasons:
1. 3D Realms and Remedy sold the Max Payne IP, it would be weird to sell the IP and then go on to develop a sequel
2. 3D Realms doesn't do licensed games, they onlyu work on sequel to their franchises and entierly new franchises.
3. Remedy isn't making Max Payne 3.
4. Scott Miller has stated that the 3RD Party game is an original IP/franchise
5. 3D Realms only work on one [u]INHOUSE</u> game at the time, therefore it can't be inouse if is Max Payne 3.
dutch said:
Wacky Wheels 2? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Again a sequel is not an original IP.
3D Master
04-03-2005, 09:19 AM
I know! I know!
Commander Keen 7! ID would be a third party!!!
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 09:19 AM
also, here's another hint from charlie-does it give away the game?
You'll probably figure it out in about a month and go "Oh duh!". No biggie. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
After reading that I'm back to almost being certain it's a mobile game. If it's no biggie then what else can it be? Surely it can't be anything else as anything else would be a big deal.
Maybe the old fans prediction was that all 3DR games would one day be ported over to mobiles when they got more advanced at handling games.
Or what about Duke for the Nintendo DS?
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 09:21 AM
The "fan" charlie is talking about is known by 3dr/Apogee long before Duke3D came out.
This is what is throwing people off. It doesn't mean this person predicted a game out of thin air.
This person could have simply predicted: "yeah, i can see you guys giving out the dnf release date at e3 one of these years" or something along those lines.
It's gotta be either DNF or the "mystery" third party game.
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 09:22 AM
I think he means no biggie as in the annoucement won't be a that big deal, as in we won't be that suprised.
That doesn't mean the game won't be a big deal.
KaiserSoze said:
It's gotta be either DNF or the "mystery" third party game.
KaiserSoze, I agree that are only two options.'
Except maybe there are two(or more) external games in development at the same time.
Parkar
04-03-2005, 09:23 AM
Yea just did not bother to make such a compltete list of reasons. Nothing says remedy won't be "hired" by rockstar to develop another max payne. The rason remedy is not developing it as far as I recall was that they felt like doing something diffrerent after ma payne 2.
I was leaning towards wacky wheels 2 as well a while just since it would be so cool and it was discussed some time ago that it should be made.
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 09:23 AM
KaiserSoze said:
The "fan" charlie is talking about is known by 3dr/Apogee long before Duke3D came out.
This is what is throwing people off. It doesn't mean this person predicted a game out of thin air.
This person could have simply predicted: "yeah, i can see you guys giving out the dnf release date at e3 one of these years" or something along those lines.
It's gotta be either DNF or the "mystery" third party game.
But if it is DNF or any other game I don't think the response is going to be "oh duh no biggie"
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 09:24 AM
Kristian Joensen said:
I think he means no biggie as in the annoucement won't be a that big deal, as in we won't be that suprised.
That doesn't mean the game won't be a big deal.
this is totally correct.
Parkar
04-03-2005, 09:25 AM
Evil Angel said:
Or what about Duke for the Nintendo DS?
That's not to far fetched if you ask me. But I am still with DNF or mystery game.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 09:26 AM
Evil Angel said:
KaiserSoze said:
The "fan" charlie is talking about is known by 3dr/Apogee long before Duke3D came out.
This is what is throwing people off. It doesn't mean this person predicted a game out of thin air.
This person could have simply predicted: "yeah, i can see you guys giving out the dnf release date at e3 one of these years" or something along those lines.
It's gotta be either DNF or the "mystery" third party game.
But if it is DNF or any other game I don't think the response is going to be "oh duh no biggie"
i believe charlie is trying to tell us:
"oh duh" as in: damn-it was obvious all along.
the "no biggie" comment was aimed more at me being a bit rattled at guessing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 09:26 AM
Parkar said:
Yea just did not bother to make such a compltete list of reasons. Nothing says remedy won't be "hired" by rockstar to develop another max payne. The rason remedy is not developing it as far as I recall was that they felt like doing something diffrerent after ma payne 2.
I was leaning towards wacky wheels 2 as well a while just since it would be so cool and it was discussed some time ago that it should be made.
Yeah but this would not work if Remedy has adopted 3D Realms policy of not working on licensed property.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 09:28 AM
i like this thread. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
at least it gives us some hope and something to actually talk about.
i think whatever game it is, we'll be winnars either way. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
well except for a duke or shadow warrior mobile game. no thanks. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 09:31 AM
KaiserSoze said:
i like this thread. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
at least it gives us some hope and something to actually talk about.
i think whatever game it is, we'll be winnars either way. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
well except for a duke or shadow warrior mobile game. no thanks. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
Hehe yeah it's great. Feels like theres some real action round here and somethings really gunna happen. Whatever it is it's fun guessing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
KaiserSoze said:
i think whatever game it is, we'll be winnars either way. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
But I want to win the grand prize here!
well except for a duke or shadow warrior mobile game. no thanks. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 09:35 AM
KaiserSoze said:
Evil Angel said:
KaiserSoze said:
The "fan" charlie is talking about is known by 3dr/Apogee long before Duke3D came out.
This is what is throwing people off. It doesn't mean this person predicted a game out of thin air.
This person could have simply predicted: "yeah, i can see you guys giving out the dnf release date at e3 one of these years" or something along those lines.
It's gotta be either DNF or the "mystery" third party game.
But if it is DNF or any other game I don't think the response is going to be "oh duh no biggie"
i believe charlie is trying to tell us:
"oh duh" as in: damn-it was obvious all along.
the "no biggie" comment was aimed more at me being a bit rattled at guessing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Exactly and if you think about that would hold true for both DNF, Prey and Bombshell.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 09:35 AM
so what's the general consensus here?
mystery third party game? dnf?
maybe we're trying too hard. maybe the answer has been right in front of our faces all along?(duke)
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
dark_angel
04-03-2005, 09:39 AM
We need more hints!
Kaiser, pm the Boss http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 09:42 AM
Well it isn't George who has been given these hint btu Charlie.
SyntaxN
04-03-2005, 09:42 AM
Iīm still thinking that itīs time for Duke.....on the Nintendo DS http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif (or on Sonys PSP, DNF will be exclusive for it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)
Weīve to wait until itīs time, I donīt think that we will get a usefull comment from George or Joe in here!
(/me prays for DNF)
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 09:51 AM
Kristian Joensen said:
Well it isn't George who has been given these hint btu Charlie.
Yeah, charlie has been kind enough to give out a few hints. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Dark, i already tried george, he deflected my question like sith lightning http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif=- gave the usual WID response "don't read anything into anything" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
Both charlie and george are masterful at keeping people at bay with the whole area 51 stuff.
Anyways, i was just doing more investigative work at the e3 site http://www.e3expo.com/e3expo/
What's interesting is that the company whom most of us think is working with 3dr on the mystery game-Human Head Studios, is not listed as an exhibitor.
However, Take 2 Interactive has a bunch of floor space(and from what I've heard, they generally either don't go or have limited floor space) They have sections 150a, 150b and 324. I tried to pull the floorspace map but it's not up yet.
Seems like alot of floor space, even for them. Hmmm.
EDIT: LOL at all the "checking who's online" people. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
dark_angel
04-03-2005, 09:57 AM
all the "checking who's online" people are investigating too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
SyntaxN
04-03-2005, 09:58 AM
Nobody said that the super big thing will be "unveiled" at E3, possibly in a magazin or whatever....
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 09:59 AM
Well until we get more info or someone makes a breakthrough I don't think we're gunna get much further. I'm hoping DNF but I'm going to plump for Shadow Warrior for mobile. Heres's why.
1. D3D was released for mobile only a month ago. Surely Shadow Warrior is going to follow? And if it is they will have probably been working on both games at the same time and then have a slight gap between releases.
2. "There is enough information out there to determine what it's most likely about" Goes back to the news item on the main page about D3D for mobile. It's recent and close to the SW source info.
3. The old fan prediction could be that most 3DR games will be ported to mobile when they become advanced enough to take it. D3D and SW included.
4. No biggie. I know it's likely to mean no surprises but I can't help but think it's a sort of "don't get too excited" type comment.
The only thing that makes me wonder is the "You'll probably figure it out in about a month" comment. This to me screams E3 and it seems a but much to "unveil" a mobile game at E3.
It's certainly a puzzler. Charlie could give the riddler a run for his money.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 09:59 AM
dark_angel said:
all the "checking who's online" people are investigating too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
i busted out a laugh when i saw that. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
i'm digging around http://www.take2games.com/ but nothing has really caught my eye yet.
SyntaxN
04-03-2005, 10:04 AM
Itīs very strange that Joe didnīt postet something like *stfu, we wonīt go to E3 and itīs not time yet* at this point!
Iīm going to wait a few hours but if no 3dr employee posts the stfu thing something is going on imo...
trackit
04-03-2005, 10:04 AM
if it is SW mobile, i will be really disapointed in 3DR, and really fed up of their jokes... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
enough is enough!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 10:06 AM
trackit said:
if it is SW mobile, i will be really disapointed in 3DR, and really fed up of their joks... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
Amen to that.
KaiserSoze
04-03-2005, 10:10 AM
did some investigating guys and have a couple interesting hits from the u.s. patent and trademark office online site. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
"prey" trademark active (movement in 2003/2004)
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=6et9b3.4.11
"bombshell" (2002 movement)
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=6et9b3.7.16
these could merely be 3dr/Apogee renewing the marks but you never know.........
i gotta go get some sleep, keep digging guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
3D Master
04-03-2005, 10:16 AM
Well, was Shadow Warrior big enough to warrent a mobile release, and/or is Duke Mobile selling like hotcakes they think SW mobile will sell? I don't see why they would 'unveil' SW mobile at E3 though, I mean Duke Mobile would be bigger than SW mobile and I haven't seen any giant adds, and "oh boy, duke's on mobile" in magazines and out there and such. It's on the site here, but... me not using any mobile technology for gaming, I never went more than ::shrug::.
Now, as for Prey... I wan't here BEFORE Duke3D, I WAS here before it was released to playstation and nintendo 64, and I have said on at least 2 seperate occasions that I think the 'on hold' was a ruse to put Prey in a true deep chasm of Area 51 continued development...
Personally I don't think it is, especially since I don't think I'm that well known to the 3D Realms staff... then again, if I AM right on that, that might have made them actually tell around the office... 'dang this guy's on to us', ah, that just can't be, I never figured on Prey being released before DNF or in conjunction, doesn't fit...
Somebody give me an aspirine, my head's starting to hurt with all the conspiracy theories and assumpitons and speculations.
i bet my money on DNF http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Crash_7
04-03-2005, 10:24 AM
I could care less about about a mobile SW, or any mobile game for that matter. The only things they could do that would interest me would be Max Payne 3 (unlikely) or DNF. If it's not either of those, I'd prefer that they keep their infoteases to themselves.
Crash_7 said:
I could care less about about a mobile SW, or any mobile game for that matter. The only things they could do that would interest me would be Max Payne 3 (unlikely) or DNF. If it's not either of those, I'd prefer that they keep their infoteases to themselves.
Word! My hopes are on MP3(Not gonna happen but I can dream) and DNF, which I think is the answer here! o/
trackit
04-03-2005, 10:39 AM
whats this??? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
i googled around and found this (http://www.gamegossip.com/comment.php?id=10323)
I dont get it... Scott talks about ID software, not that 3DR is working on original title...
or my english is too bad to understand?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
edit: damit... i missed the second part of the sentense... i guess im too tired... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Lotan
04-03-2005, 10:46 AM
He was comparing id and 3dr. id is working on something, so are we(3dr).
If only my english isn't bad too. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 10:49 AM
Here is scotts first comment on this game from his blog:
"Just to be clear that I do not hijack improper credit, Max Payne was developed (all content and code) by Remedy Entertainment (they did all the hard work!), and produced by 3D Realms (meaning we funded a significant portion of the game, handled the publishing agreements, helped guide the game's design, helped play-tested and polished the game, handled the shareware release, and oversaw and co-designed the game's marketing).
3D Realms is currently working with another developer, with a very similar relationship that we had with Remedy, to create another hit series (or so we hope!). In 2004 this game will be announced and it will make a good case study in the making of a franchise, allowing me to discuss our key decisions prior to the game's release, and eventually seeing if we made the right calls."
trackit
04-03-2005, 10:51 AM
Lotan said:
He was comparing id and 3dr. id is working on something, so are we(3dr).
If only my english isn't bad too. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
yeah, i get it now... i just missed the second part for some strange reason when i first read it... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Rider
04-03-2005, 11:07 AM
This forum can get me hyped every now and then http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I love it. I'm currently thinking either DNF or Prey but I wonder if the mystery game *IS* prey, or something completely different...
Because I think Prety might be released sometime anyway http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
lonestar
04-03-2005, 11:33 AM
Rider said:
This forum can get me hyped every now and then http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I love it. I'm currently thinking either DNF or Prey but I wonder if the mystery game *IS* prey, or something completely different...
this is all so "omgomgomgomgomgomg... " - like. woohoo
like i said, dnf is the only in-house product. if they will unveiling their own baby, it can only be the one.. the one that matters...
hmm.. what about remedy? 3drealms teamed up with them. maybe they won't kicking with may payne 3, but prey. remedy got a qualified team.
Emultra
04-03-2005, 11:58 AM
Max Payne 3. Or not.
Well, DNMP 2.
Duoae
04-03-2005, 12:47 PM
First off i'm kinda confused with Kristian's reply to my other post - which he never explained.... but also, to put you guys right:
like i said, dnf is the only in-house product. if they will unveiling their own baby, it can only be the one.. the one that matters...
Where do you guys get this from? They are obviously working on more than one in-house product. To quote where i am getting my idea from and why i think what i think it is...
Scott's Blog
Id is now working on an original project, and although we're known for Duke, we also helped bring Max Payne to the market, and we're currently working on an unannounced original game, too.
Okay, so everyone is aware of that fact - posted multiple times now in this thread. Notice the difference between "helping" Max Payne and "working on" the new game?
Now that post was made on 11/10/2004...... the Prey trademark thingy Kaiser posted was filed on 02/07/2003 which was last updated on 08/11/2004 a few weeks after that post on scott's blog.
Currently, that trademark application is undergoing : "A request for the first extension of time to file a statement of use has been granted."
ie. To show that they are and will use it - not just another "blanket" patent/rademark kinda thingy.
Now, if i'm correct in my thinking, you only bring out a trademark when the title of a product has been set in stone and you are expecting a release of said product in a reasonable timeframe - otherwise (as almost happened with this application) you lose the rights to the trademark in the "applied for" uses. They got an extention on the trademark because in my thinking the game was not ready for release and so no example of "use" could be obtained (Hence why the original 1999 filing was abandoned - they had 5 extentions on that one).
Now, it has been 4-5 months since the extension was applied for. The time around E3 is when a lot of games are officially announced, this extension time might have been to help the "use" being shown as they game is announced. I'm not sure, but i don't think you can announce the name of a game that you don't own...
Hence the "you might figure it out in a month's time" comment.
Also, there is evidence that Prey is bound for that online distribution service that 3DR are going to use on their "next game". From the Prey trademark application uses:
"computer software featuring computer games that can be downloaded through a global computer network"
This to me - along with some other clues which i have - means that the next game released from 3DR is Prey, through online distribution and announced at around the time of E3..... isn't that online distribution company (Gamesxtream) going to announce what companies and games it will be pushing?
Micki!
04-03-2005, 12:53 PM
Duoae said:
Scott's Blog
Id is now working on an original project, and although we're known for Duke, we also helped bring Max Payne to the market, and we're currently working on an unannounced original game, too.
You have to remember that George also said that everyone at 3DR is currently working on DNF...
And that statement is newer than Scott's Blog Message...
So if you ask me, I would Think they're talking about DNF... Hopefully... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
Duoae
04-03-2005, 01:00 PM
Micki! said:
You have to remember that George also said that everyone at 3DR is currently working on DNF...
And that statement is newer than Scott's Blog Message...
So if you ask me, I would Think they're talking about DNF... Hopefully... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
Couldn't that be a misleading quote from George? I mean, he could have called the whole company into a big meeting about DNF.... therefore everyone would currently be working on DNF.... if you know what i mean? As someone else said - Area 51 stuff contains well guarded secrets...
[EDIT]
Also, DNF Trademark isn't covered for online distriubtion as Bombshell and Prey are.... they would need a new trademark application or an "amendment" or something....
JackpotDen
04-03-2005, 01:03 PM
its not a sequal. Its something completely new, and unannounced, and the 3rd party MYSTERY game.
Anyone predicting it would be saying max payne, before it was announced.
Micki!
04-03-2005, 01:04 PM
Duoae said:
Micki! said:
You have to remember that George also said that everyone at 3DR is currently working on DNF...
And that statement is newer than Scott's Blog Message...
So if you ask me, I would Think they're talking about DNF... Hopefully... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
Couldn't that be a misleading quote from George? I mean, he could have called the whole company into a big meeting about DNF.... therefore everyone would currently be working on DNF.... if you know what i mean? As someone else said - Area 51 stuff contains well guarded secrets...
[EDIT]
Also, DNF Trademark isn't covered for online distriubtion as Bombshell and Prey are.... they would need a new trademark application or an "amendment" or something....
I'm not really sure myself...
But DNF is still thier main project... So it would suprise me if they suddenly announced something else in between... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
lonestar
04-03-2005, 01:06 PM
Duoae said:
like i said, dnf is the only in-house product. if they will unveiling their own baby, it can only be the one.. the one that matters...
Where do you guys get this from? They are obviously working on more than one in-house product. To quote where i am getting my idea from and why i think what i think it is...
what micki said.
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 01:07 PM
Just becuase they use the words working on doesn't mean that the game is been made inhouse.
Also, you have remember that Scott before has stated that the game is external.
However he also said that they relationship was "very similar" to there relationship with Remedy.
Notice he didn't say that it was exactly the same maybe, just maybe someone over at 3DR is working on this actively, maybe 3-5 of their team members are also part of this games development team.
Mobygames says the folowing under Max Paynes credits:
"Produced by George Broussard, Scott Miller"
And Max Payne 2's:
"3D Realms
For 3D Realms Scott Miller, George Broussard"
and
"3D Realms Dallas Test Team Scott Miller, George Broussard, Kyle Davis, Keith Schuler, Allen H. Blum III, John D. Anderson, Joe Wampoole, Steven Blackburn, Charlie Wiederhold"
So as you see they worked on Max Payne and Max Payne 2.
Maybe this game is a closer collobration then the Max Payne games ?
Maybe someone over at 3D Realms is actually working on some content for this game.
Zorgblub
04-03-2005, 01:08 PM
KaiserSoze said:
What's interesting is that the company whom most of us think is working with 3dr on the mystery game-Human Head Studios, is not listed as an exhibitor.
Hello, first post here http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
On the Liquid development website (http://liquiddevelopment.com/HTML-Files2/Home.html) it is said "Check back around E3 2005" about the secret project from Human Head, so why don't they appear in the E3 list ? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Evil Angel
04-03-2005, 01:11 PM
Hell it's just dawned on me, DNF or no DNF we are at least going to get to see something and hopefully pretty "soon". It's exciting whatever it is. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 01:12 PM
Duoae said:
First off i'm kinda confused with Kristian's reply to my other post - which he never explained....
What is it that confused you with my reply ?
Zorgblub said:
KaiserSoze said:
What's interesting is that the company whom most of us think is working with 3dr on the mystery game-Human Head Studios, is not listed as an exhibitor.
Hello, first post here http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
On the Liquid development website (http://liquiddevelopment.com/HTML-Files2/Home.html) it is said "Check back around E3 2005" about the secret project from Human Head, so why don't they appear in the E3 list ? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Maybe because it it their publisher, in the rumor Take 2 who has reserved space ?
When 3D Realms went to E3 in 2001 they where part of Gathering Of Developers stand/exhibit that is the most likely explanation.
Micki!
04-03-2005, 01:13 PM
Welcome to the forums Zorgblub... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
That's old news... you can still find the thread somewhere though...
Kristian Joensen
04-03-2005, 01:17 PM
Oh and btw Duoae it is official 3DR policy to only make one internal game at the time.
Zorgblub
04-03-2005, 01:19 PM
As it has been stated that they don't go to E3 anymore, maybe 3D Realms would make a "parallel" show during the E3 to unveil the game. That would be exciting, all the press talking about this unveiling instead of talking about the E3 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Duoae
04-03-2005, 01:23 PM
Kristian Joensen said:
What is it that confused you with my reply ?
RE: The previous post you obviously didn't read.
Duoae said:
Kristian Joensen said:
But one big part of the original Prey concept was the amacing engine, the rumor that it is Prey also says that Human Head Studios is developing it using the Doom 3 engine.