JFShadowWarrior is available (updated 20051009)

[JonoF]

The first release of JFShadowWarrior is now available for your enjoyment. Please bear in mind this is the first release so there will be crashes or bugs. Please report them as you find them. View the JFShadowWarrior section (http://jonof.edgenetwork.org/?p=jfsw) or go directly to the files (http://jonof.edgenetwork.org/?p=downloads&cat=2).

Have fun

Jonathon

[Geoffrey]

Big hug, small download. Thanks for making this saturday the greatest http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Delta]

Mouse Aiming and mouse movement in general seems a little off. Or maybe it's just me.

If mouse aiming is set to toggle, it's impossible to turn it on. When the mouse aiming key is pressed, a message is displayed saying that mouse aiming was turned off, even though it was never on.

Mouse movement feels a bit jerky. Doesn't feel as smooth as JFDuke3D, but it's still perfectly playable.

I'm running the game at 1280x1024 32 bpp, if that helps any.

Other than that, no problems so far. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Ras]

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Thank you from the bottom of my Ripper Heart weapon! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Ecmaster76]

Damn that was quick...

But yah, didn't someone say you had a copy before the release (Ken too I bet), to help prepare it for public usage?

I guess you got a head start.

Thanks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[TerminX]

Delta said:
Mouse Aiming and mouse movement in general seems a little off. Or maybe it's just me.

If mouse aiming is set to toggle, it's impossible to turn it on. When the mouse aiming key is pressed, a message is displayed saying that mouse aiming was turned off, even though it was never on.

Mouse movement feels a bit jerky. Doesn't feel as smooth as JFDuke3D, but it's still perfectly playable.

I'm running the game at 1280x1024 32 bpp, if that helps any.

Other than that, no problems so far. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Yeah, there are a few problems with the mouse. The game is extremely jerky for me with vsync on as well, so you might try turning that off if you've got it enabled.

[Another Duke Fan]

I am on it! THANK YOU Jonathon!

[Ras]

Just ran through a bit of the first level, and things are looking terrific. The only problems I've had so far: a lack of CD sound (I haven't messed with settings much, so maybe I overlooked it); and the 3D sprites aren't working for me. I didn't see that as a known issue, so I thought I'd mention it.

Edit: Ahh, darn. The release notes mentioned lack of CD sound. I will leave my blind idiocy up for all to see.

[Geoffrey]

I've ran through it a bit and the only problems I could find were the fact that the cd music doesn't work and that the game runs a tad laggy and choppy. One bug was weird though, in level 2/3 of the shareware episode I remember having to run that vehicle you had to fix through the wooden boxes. Well that didn't work, strangely enough http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I found something else though.. I was bummed that I could never get JfDuke to run in full-screen and gl at the same time .. but with JfSw it works http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif Awesome! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Edit: just noticed the cd music thing has already been mentioned above. The voxels díd work here though.

Final edit: Forgot to mention that if you press F7 you can still see the weapon at the bottom of the screen. I don't know if this is supposed to be like that so if it is forget I said anything.

[Boinky]

Hrm, if you mean Voxels, I believe, I could be mistaken, that they dont work in polymost... I remember in a JFDuke discussion that someone had mentioned that Voxels do not work in polymost... So don't quote me on that, but if your talkin about voxels that might be why http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Ras]

Voxels are it. Well, I guess those items will be taken care of eventually by the model makers.

[Boinky]

You guys can have your SW I just hope JF keeps up w/ Duke.. ROR on duke, and I'll be in heaven.... Put a map on hold just so I can wait for JF duke(or Eduke) to support that feature!

[Ras]

And besides ROR, someone talked about the possibility of vehicles being ported to Duke! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[JonoF]

The mouse aiming toggle keeps switching so rapidly while the key is pressed that it might look like it's turning off. I have to fix the repeating issue in the next release. The jerky mouse input is also to be addressed along with the other mouse input quirks people are seeing.

Jonathon

[Another Duke Fan]

Can`t get it go... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif It fails to identify my Sidewinder 3D (which it tries by default), then all controlls are lost. No keyboard, no mouse... I am stuck on the main menu and nothing moves, can`t do anything, but to exit through the task manager. Any ideas? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[TerminX]

Ras said:
And besides ROR, someone talked about the possibility of vehicles being ported to Duke! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif


The only person porting the vehicles would be me (unless someone wants to do it themselves and submit a patch, hint hint) and right now I've got a bit too much to do lately. It's going to take a lot of meddling around with both sets of source to get such a thing working methinks.

[djimd]

Ras said:
Just ran through a bit of the first level, and things are looking terrific. The only problems I've had so far: a lack of CD sound (I haven't messed with settings much, so maybe I overlooked it); and the 3D sprites aren't working for me. I didn't see that as a known issue, so I thought I'd mention it.

Edit: Ahh, darn. The release notes mentioned lack of CD sound. I will leave my blind idiocy up for all to see.



LOL - Jonof thought you might have had ogg support with the first release.
Seriously tho - excellent job runs best i've ever seen it.
Thx mate.

ALso it should be pretty easy to make a start on a sw-hrp - fonts can be used sraight from the jf-hrp.

[SyntaxN]

wow you´re damn fast....

[Another Duke Fan]

While the game tries to create joystick device (in setup window) I get crash message: "Failed setting buffering: DI_POLLEDEVICE", then the main menu loads, but all controlls are off. Is there any way around this?

[SamSwashbuckler]

Can still use F2/F3 to save/load.

at the start of level 2, I tried to save and it crashed (or intentionally exited?). There's a game0.sav file, 8KB.

I can see the savegame (complete with the name I gave it and the mini screenshot) but trying to load it crashes it.

[Another Duke Fan]

All of this is answered in the Releasenotes.html.

[Towelie2k4]

Woo! First error message!

Okay, running the game,even without changing any settings, brings the following error:

"Failed setting buffering: DI_POLLEDDEVICE"

From there, I cant move to any menu items, the app seems to accept no keyboard input. Normal windows command work (ctrl-alt-del, windows key)

Wait a sec, just figured it out. I had by Xbox controller plugged in. A soon as i took it out and re-fired SW, it worked perfectly. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Anyway, its still a bit of a bug report, as I hadn't selected to use the joystick, only mouse and keyboard. Meh.

Huge round of applause to you Jonof! Now we can finally play SW in all its glory!
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
*hugs monitor*



*EDIT*
Whoops, Another Duke Fan posted exactl;y the same thing while I was typing. Sorry mate, didn't mean to http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Parkar]

djimd said:
ALso it should be pretty easy to make a start on a sw-hrp - fonts can be used sraight from the jf-hrp.



Once we have a stable jfsw and there is enough content I'll start putting the sw_hrp together.

[Rider]

My mouse acts up with this game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

from time to time, during a movement of the mouse (say up) it reverses for a very brief moment, sometimes bringin my view either way up or way down. Makes it really hard to aim...

besides that everything looks to work pretty sweetly!

[gila]

great stuff, it ran no problem, but a few 'bugs'

saving game by f2 resulted in a crash
weapons still visible when using f7 view mode

IMPORTANT:

for some reason all monsters (i tested it in 1st level) always play alot of their PAIN sounds (ninja's most noticeable) and very few of their 'ambient' sounds, it never happened in original game, now it sounds like you're playing coop or something! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

anyway great work for a first port release!

[Enragiated]

works excellent with the shareware version, Good to play this game again.

[wieder]

BTW, some minor bugs or quirks you guys are encountering might very well be due to the game code that was provided in the first place. Since it was kludged together from various files with drastically different dates (and some things even different games!), it's very possible that certain gameplay elements are modified or broken because the real file was missing or from an earlier version of the game.

Both icculus and Jonothan have done a kickass job though, should be a fun year. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Viper Knight]

When I hit a gong a melody plays! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Why is that!? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

I don't get that anymore since I extracted all the .voc files from SW.GRP. I hear a gong sound when I hit a gong now, GONG.VOC to be exact.

I figured it out, I had Carger2000's Santa Wang (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=750286&an=0&page=0#750286) on which comes with it's own GONG.VOC, which is a melody.

[Psykomanius]

What is the final version of Shadow Warrior ?

I have v1.2.

But, when i start the game i got this=

ENTER THE WANG
Four Levels: Shareware Version.

CODE OF HONOR
Eighteen Levels: Full Version Only.

Are there a patch, so i can got the full version of Enter The Wang ???

Now i am confused http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

What does that mean...

"Sorry my bad English" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[gila]

means that shareware version had only 4 levels that ended up with serpent god getting away.

the full version has 2nd episode with tons more levels, and the "full version only" seems to be leftover description from the shareware version.

if you have only shareware version (mind you the latest shareware is also uptodate with registered version and also is 1.2), then, well, bad luck - get a full commercial copy!

simply try playing episode 2 right away - if you get a level when you start in a boat then you have registered version.

[Geoffrey]

The first episode is supposed to be really short - if you can play Code of Honor then it's all good and you are set to go http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Psykomanius]

Are there some full version of Enter The Wang ???

[gila]

enter the wang is only four levels long.

[Nukkus]

found a bug! in Seppuku Station, i got blasted by one of those tnt-bastards, and ended up somehow in the remote control car room. had to use noclip to get out of it, lol.

[Psykomanius]

Okay.
A big thanks for the info on this http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Phayzon]

Didnt take long at all. Now i gotta find my SW CD...

[Carger2000]

Viper Knight said:
When I hit a gong a melody plays! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Why is that!? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

I don't get that anymore since I extracted all the .voc files from SW.GRP. I hear a gong sound when I hit a gong now, GONG.VOC to be exact.

I figured it out, I had Carger2000's Santa Wang (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=750286&an=0&page=0#750286) on which comes with it's own GONG.VOC, which is a melody.



Hehe http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I always used gong.voc for my own voc's because it aint used much and it easy to remember http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
The melody comes from the jukebox when you access it in Santa wang.

[3D Master]

Ah! For some reason my mouse aiming doesn't work. Doesn't matter if I got it in toggle or momentary, I move the moust Wang moves forward back, etc. Using 'u' to switch mouse aimin on/off doesn't change that behaviour. Anyone else have this too?

[3D Master]

Sorry, for second post, forgot to add to favorites, and got some more thingies:

It seems 'u' does switch to mouse aiming, it only lasts a fraction of second and automatically switches back to mouse aiming off.

Also, it seems starting up SW.exe makes it try to connect to the internet. Why's that?

[Ronstar]

*kneels down and pray to the mighty jonof*

man,thats just great (*diggin out my old shadow warrior cd*).

[JonoF]

It doesn't actually connect to the net, rather it loads the Windows networking DLL on startup which I guess is enough for Windows' firewall to think it's trying to connect to the network. It's only when you play a netgame that anything actually happens with the network.

Jonathon

[Tedades]

great!
I also found tekwar on the website, I was thinking of that game just yesterday but couldnt remember the name.
Same for power-slave (exhumed) that I played on my sega saturn.

[Oasiz]

Creepy. JFSW crashed when i squeezed the heart on E2L2 (near where i got it). But it works still great http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif just the annoying mouse bug, but you can disable aiming and use auto-aim instead. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[TheKins]

Only problem I've had is that the camera view that you use to get the key in the first level of the Shareware episode is a HOM, making the level unwinnable by legit means. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[tpz]

Wow! Gonna try it out right away.

[Blade Nightflame]

Very awesome JonoF. I applause you, as mentioned. I got a crash when using the Ripper Heart weapon in Shadow Warrior, otherwise. This thing runs silky smooth! The mouse may go a bit fast, but I still like the port anyway. ^_^

[jbailey]

I was trying to compile the current jfshadow warrior
sources, but in 'control.c' lines 303-308 the compiler stops
with the error: 'joyhat undefined', I've looked through
loads of header files, various sdks', numerous google
searches and can't find a usable joyhat definition, does
anyone here know the appropriate #define for joyhat?

Thanks!

[Phayzon]

Oasiz said:
Creepy. JFSW crashed when i squeezed the heart on E2L2 (near where i got it). But it works still great http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif just the annoying mouse bug, but you can disable aiming and use auto-aim instead. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Same here...

[Maren Gnawol]

I http://img166.exs.cx/img166/8111/bowdown2fo.gif Jonof

[RedSplat]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Just played it again after 6 years.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Thank you JonoF http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Krid]

NotWieder3DR said:
BTW, some minor bugs or quirks you guys are encountering might very well be due to the game code that was provided in the first place. Since it was kludged together from various files with drastically different dates (and some things even different games!), it's very possible that certain gameplay elements are modified or broken because the real file was missing or from an earlier version of the game.

Both icculus and Jonothan have done a kickass job though, should be a fun year. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



I really hope you keep this in mind, so that 10 years after the DNF release you can release it's sourcecode in perfect condition. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

(Yes, I know that would require either seperating it from the Unreal engine or 'convincing' Epic et al to GPL that version of Unreal, and Havok, and etc... Let me dream!)

[Maren Gnawol]

Well, just confirming the flat voxel problem and the screen jerkiness with vsync enabled. As extras, I got a black screen which lasted for about 3 secs, then I sarted noticing intermittent "flashes" during the game (guess it's caused by having vsync off)

[Kev_Hectic]

Damn, to bad I don't own a copy of SW.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I wonder if the demo works?

[MegaMustaine]

How long do you think it will be before a version with fixed saving and loading is out?

[SamSwashbuckler]

I would guess next version. For now just use SWTrek## to go to the last level you were at...you don't get your items, but who needs 'em?! :P

[Maren Gnawol]

Kev_Hectic said:
Damn, to bad I don't own a copy of SW.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I wonder if the demo works?



3DRealms is still selling it, go get it, it's worth every penny http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Kev_Hectic said:
Damn, to bad I don't own a copy of SW.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I wonder if the demo works?



It does work with the shareware version, I know casue I have tried it.

[Maren Gnawol]

SW on anisotropic.

For now, just force it via drivers, looks awesome http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/3408/swcp00011dv.th.gif (http://img217.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img217&image=swcp00011dv.gif)

[Carger2000]

Im personally waiting for the 'load user map' in game.
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Oasiz]

Found a another bugger !
I dont know that whats the reason for this.
it works fine on other places, but when i got the nuke ammo and turned back i saw it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Im not 100% sure if its a map desing issue or neither source issue, but its still annoying (same as the monitor in E1L1) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
i hope that the SAVE & LOAD will be coded soon. . .

[Maren Gnawol]

Ugly glitch at Seppuku Station (confirming)
http://img32.exs.cx/img32/592/swcp00039dc.th.gif (http://img32.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img32&image=swcp00039dc.gif)

[Oasiz]

Maren Gnawol said:
Ugly glitch at Seppuku Station:
http://img32.exs.cx/img32/592/swcp00039dc.th.gif (http://img32.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img32&image=swcp00039dc.gif)


I think that was mentioned in the release notes. ? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Ras]

That's a known issue. Someone said the level couldn't be finished legitimately because of that. It can be done, it just takes either luck, skill, or a lot of running back and forth to see the progress your RC is making. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Oasiz]

Heh. Stereo sound does the trick http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
but hey, good practice ! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Ras]

I'll mention a couple of things:

On the first level, in the room you enter with the gold key, there's a metal garbage can you can shoot to move towards a hidden panel up on the wall. That garbage can looks glitchy around the bottom of the image.

When I destroy the machine gun emplacement near the subway, the barrel is shown incorrectly. I believe this--and maybe the previous glitch-- may relate to the lack of voxels.

[Oasiz]

SW can still be played without voxels. in the original DOS version you can set it in the menu. and remember, there is still the same bug as seen in JFDUKE when you look extremely down the screen starts to glitch.

[Phayzon]

i hate that look glitch :P...

[Ras]

Oh, yeah. I knew they could be turned off, but I didn't put two and two together and realize the glitches would go away with them checked off.

[5ththrax]

I love you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.....in a non-homosexual way http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JonoF]

Update your copy of the engine source. For now I'd suggest keeping it separate from the version Duke is using because I haven't released an updated Duke code package just yet that accounts for the updates in the engine.

Jonathon

[jbailey]

Ok, I thought I downloaded all of the latest code already, I'll
wait until another release of the sources is made available.

Thanks!

[Viper Knight]

When I go to insert a sprite in SW's Build Editor, in a new board, the editor exits if it is, or as soon as I go into, 3D mode. However, in a loaded map with some sprites already inserted it's fine. I believe the error lies with the first default sprite that gets inserted in a new map, which I haven't seen but has this on it's label in 2D mode: '5:2,'. And that's a weird label from my knowledge! I checked it's low and high tags and they are set to 0. Weird, huh? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[5ththrax]

Im getting this now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif DI_POLLEDDEVICE error. wuts that all about....launches game and cant use keyboard....

[Another Duke Fan]

Until JonoF fixes it, go to your Gamecontroller Panel under System Management and make sure everything there (all controllers other than keyboard and mouse) are set to off. Then, it will work. As it is now, it doesn`t get along with any sort of joy-stick-pad-etc. Hopefuly, this will get fixed in the future.

[JonoF]

DI_POLLEDDEVICE


Ahh, I guess my updated joystick code has a side-effect. I'll check it out and fix it.

Jonathon

[Maren Gnawol]

I wonder if you could make fire translucent as in the 3dfx patch, just a thought.

[Rellik66]

JonoF said:

DI_POLLEDDEVICE


Ahh, I guess my updated joystick code has a side-effect. I'll check it out and fix it.

Jonathon

For me, I tracked that down to my USB gamepad not being plugged in. Once I plugged in the gamepad, JFSW worked like it should.

[djimd]

yes joypads work - but tend to wander - with jfduke the ingame options give greater flexibilty to customize the way the joypad works - i'm sure this will be coming to sw tho.

[Jovan]

Kev_Hectic said:
Damn, to bad I don't own a copy of SW.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I wonder if the demo works?



Yep, the demo version works. I tried it just now, in fact.

[Cerberus_e]

NotWieder3DR said:
BTW, some minor bugs or quirks you guys are encountering might very well be due to the game code that was provided in the first place. Since it was kludged together from various files with drastically different dates (and some things even different games!), it's very possible that certain gameplay elements are modified or broken because the real file was missing or from an earlier version of the game.

Both icculus and Jonothan have done a kickass job though, should be a fun year. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



huh I don't understand, if you just give away the source of the latest version, which you used to compile the final game with, there shouldn't be a problem?

[Swiss Cheeseman]

Cerberus_e said:

NotWieder3DR said:
BTW, some minor bugs or quirks you guys are encountering might very well be due to the game code that was provided in the first place. Since it was kludged together from various files with drastically different dates (and some things even different games!), it's very possible that certain gameplay elements are modified or broken because the real file was missing or from an earlier version of the game.

Both icculus and Jonothan have done a kickass job though, should be a fun year. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



huh I don't understand, if you just give away the source of the latest version, which you used to compile the final game with, there shouldn't be a problem?



Thats assuming they actual have the final code. Obviosuly it was lost and they had to peice it together from various sources. Sorta like a restored film http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Another Duke Fan]

Amazing, can`t stop playing and have plenty of fun, just as I used to have many years ago!! The wild and bloody action rush combined with the magic of the humor are blowing my speakers away.... These are true classics! Thank you again 3DR, JonoF, NotWieder3DR, Ken, for bringing this beauty back to life! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Sir Lemonhead]

I'm really bad at this game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Ecmaster76]

Yah its hard...

[hit 't' type 'swchan' and hit enter, should get easier http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif]

[Another Duke Fan]

Well, the mouse movements are somewhat quirky ATM and it takes time to master them, however, I am sure, once they reach the quality of JFDuke, we`ll get the same level of control over the gameplay. For this time, I am more than glad to be able to enjoy the magic of SW again, moreover, in OpenGL & very nice sound quality!

[BloodShed]

You half the man you use to be



good port http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hail Jonof & Ken http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://img91.exs.cx/img91/1117/sw3qw.th.jpg (http://img91.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img91&image=sw3qw.jpg)

[Water12356]

Ecmaster76 said:
Damn that was quick...




http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[wieder]

Cerberus_e said:

NotWieder3DR said:
BTW, some minor bugs or quirks you guys are encountering might very well be due to the game code that was provided in the first place. Since it was kludged together from various files with drastically different dates (and some things even different games!), it's very possible that certain gameplay elements are modified or broken because the real file was missing or from an earlier version of the game.

Both icculus and Jonothan have done a kickass job though, should be a fun year. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



huh I don't understand, if you just give away the source of the latest version, which you used to compile the final game with, there shouldn't be a problem?



Exactly what Swiss Cheeseman said. It's also mentioned in the readme.txt, as well as certain files that were included are marked as not from the Shadow Warrior source code.

Frank Maddin dug up as much as he could find, but in those days nobody around here intentionally kept 100% accurate source archives, especially long after the game was out and support had ended.

The code that Frank found had several files with almost the exact same content inside of them, but with different names and some slight changes. I had to make a best guess as to which one to use, and even then there isn't any guarantee that ANY of the included files were the ones they used to do the final 1.2 vesion with.

The one that is most scary and likely to cause subtle wierdness is that some files were missing entirely, so I dug into the Duke 3D source code for the similar files and used those in their place.

[SamSwashbuckler]

Well anything that doesn't work can be changed, now that we've got the source. Just takes an understanding of the code and a bit of work. Thanks again 3DR!

[Besli]

Wow, very great work JonoF + Ken!!
Only thing i miss now is jFBlood! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Time to start make textures and models for Shadow Warrior now!

[Parkar]

Havent tried this my self(don't have blood) but it uses bits of jfduke and tries to bring back blood without using the blood source.
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=810421

[Besli]

Parkar said:
Havent tried this my self(don't have blood) but it uses bits of jfduke and tries to bring back blood without using the blood source.
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=810421


Uh, never saw this!
A great url that maybe will help to make the Blood port:
http://files.deathmask.net/

[Phayzon]

Besli said:
Wow, very great work JonoF + Ken!!
Only thing i miss now is jFBlood! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Time to start make textures and models for Shadow Warrior now!



Yep http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Things I want:

1)SW_HRP (And Duke3d_HRP2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )
2)jfBlood
3)Blood_HRP :P

[wieder]

Besli said:
Uh, never saw this!
A great url that maybe will help to make the Blood port:
http://files.deathmask.net/



Is that a Cryptic Passage ISO I see in there? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Phayzon]

Yes. But Cryptic Passage is only 10 lvls and its prbably freeware now.

[Maren Gnawol]

Cryptic Passage was one of the greatest addons ever created for a game.

[Sir Lemonhead]

NotWieder3DR said:

Besli said:
Uh, never saw this!
A great url that maybe will help to make the Blood port:
http://files.deathmask.net/



Is that a Cryptic Passage ISO I see in there? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif



He'll remove it if you ask i'm sure http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Ras]

Not freeware, and it's understandable that Charlie would be upset since he worked on it. It's not sold any more, yes, but that doesn't make it free.

[wieder]

Sir_Lemonhead said:
He'll remove it if you ask i'm sure http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



It's not a big deal, just the principle of it. I don't think you *can* buy it anymore except off of auction places (which is the problem with most games as they age), but it's still a little brazen to just post it up like that..

[Sir Lemonhead]

NotWieder3DR said:

Sir_Lemonhead said:
He'll remove it if you ask i'm sure http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



It's not a big deal, just the principle of it. I don't think you *can* buy it anymore except off of auction places (which is the problem with most games as they age), but it's still a little brazen to just post it up like that..



Yeah, i'm not aware of anywhere to buy it other than say ebay. I'm sure he just figured it had fallen into that abandonware grey area...

[Ras]

I wonder if those listed on eBay are legit, or if he's running off his own copies. I played the Blood shareware right when it was released, but I didn't bother to get the game until many years later. As a result, I missed out on Cryptic and the Plasma Pak. I don't care that much about the latter, but Cryptic looked cool and I expect I would enjoy it as much as I did Sunstorm's Duke It Out and Caribbean.

[Sir Lemonhead]

Wow..it shocks me to hear that you didn't care about the plasma pack :O :O

That was excellent and well worth owning :\

[Ras]

To be honest, I know little about the Plasma Pak. I just read a review on the Adrenaline Vault, and it does sound pretty interesting. I like the idea of a shopping center level. The Duke level in a grocery store was one of my favorites, so the same would probably be true for Blood. I guess I'll reinstall the game and see how it plays on my computer, and then start tracking this stuff down if all goes well.

[Maren Gnawol]

While fearing I could be digging too much into this offtopicness, the Plasma Pack was nice but I felt it kicked ass mostly for the weapon enhancements, the maps weren't as inspired and atmospheric as the CP ones.

[Sir Lemonhead]

the plasma pack had more than new levels. There were new enemies(the little calebs that burst out of the broken mirrors was brilliant further ripping off of the evil dead series http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) and new weapon firing modes.

It's been so long since I've actually played Blood without the plasma pack, so it's hard to think of what it adds, but it is DEFINITLY worth owning.

[Maren Gnawol]

Correct, playing the original Blood without plasma weapon modes feels like crap http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The new enemies weren't something memorable but nice (as everything in Blood) nonetheless.

[SamSwashbuckler]

I already have Cryptic Passage, but it was only 12 megs? What a ripoff! :P

Anyway, back on topic, how's the next release coming along, Jono?

[MegaMustaine]

Oh how I love blood. It is what I'm playing until the save system gets fixed in this JFSW. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Rider]

I'm really getting into Shadow Warrior again http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif but I have found some mishaps, most of them are with the mouse freaking out at 'sudden movements' but this one was a puzzler...

Here you can see somekind of red card thingy in Level 2 of the first episode. I can't pick it up. Now I didn't play it much in the DOS Era, but I think this is one of those things you where able to pick up.

[gila]

on the blood offtopic.

cryptic passage was super-neat, it had huge levels and great design, i wish they would have done another addon, it was great (except a few bugs with secret counts).

plasma pak was grim on the other hand, because apart from the new enemies and new firing modes, it recycled alot of levels from the floating-around blood alpha build of feb 96! check it out. that alone makes plasma worth it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

i always wondered why companies who almost abort their titles (fckng atari or whoeven owns blood right now after series of buying again and again?) don't like alphas or betas of games being, um... distributed. i don't see how it will harm the sales, especially in the blood case, which i think noone buys now. because the lack of support or something, fans are just forced to dig through the old stuff and find little and major differences - just because they don't have anything new on that game to toy with...

[jimbob]

Rider said:
I'm really getting into Shadow Warrior again http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif but I have found some mishaps, most of them are with the mouse freaking out at 'sudden movements' but this one was a puzzler...

Here you can see somekind of red card thingy in Level 2 of the first episode. I can't pick it up. Now I didn't play it much in the DOS Era, but I think this is one of those things you where able to pick up.

thats a heat seaker card, you can shoot heat seaker missiles with the Rocket launger if you select it twice, making th red lights go on. if you find a nuke you need to press 5 3 times to shoot it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Rider]

so THATS what a heatseeker card looks like! I don't usually look at my powerups, I just pick 'em all up http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

wich explains why I couldn't pick it up, I already had one of those things!

[Besli]

NotWieder3DR said:

Besli said:
Uh, never saw this!
A great url that maybe will help to make the Blood port:
http://files.deathmask.net/



Is that a Cryptic Passage ISO I see in there? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif


Sorry, I don't know!
It's not my site/url, I just found it and thought it could be useful because of the alpha and beta version of Blood.

[gila]

would you please stop posting that deathmask links, mmkay?

i don't wanna lose that small but cool blood cult leftovers aka "community" we have there http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SamSwashbuckler]

The heatseeker is my favorite weapon in SW, it's just so awesome to shoot a rocket, that doesn't even have to be too close to the target, and have it chase them around http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Only really works well in open areas though. For WangBangs Heavy Metal was a really good level.

I remember one of the SP levels was a big boat. If you shot one outside there and it looked onto a coolie ghost you could watch it fly around for ages chasing after it, that was sweet :P

[Blade Nightflame]

Big boat level?.. The only boat levels I ever recall was the one where you had to fix some to finish the level.. Hakamiri harbor.. or something..

[SamSwashbuckler]

Yep, big boat level; very cool level, and very large. You start out in a little tiny boat in an isolated area and you have to open these gigantic metal doors in order to get out to the big boat in a huge open area full of water. Have to do some stuff underwater too; very fun level. I'll post the level name/number soon.

[Blade Nightflame]

Hehe, big boat level.. Sounds like my kinda level.

[gila]

strangely i didn't have any HOM effects and i could see that yellow car in E1L1 on that monitor just fine.

please note the wrong monster sounding!

[SamSwashbuckler]

Level 18: Floating Fortress. There may be some problems with it though. The first time I went to it, I was in the middle of typing swtrek18 again (I didn't see the level name).

Anyway, while I was typing that, some of the baddies killed me. the game totally locked up, windows seemed to be sort of ok though.....so I tried to exit it.

Escape menu didn't work, alt tab / windows key didn't work. I pressed alt F4 and I got my mouse cursor....sort of....but anyway something was really messed up because eventually everything died and I had to reboot; when I got back Windows said it recovered from a serious error, like a BSOD or something (but it never showed one; or JFSW was on top of it). The only thing I can think might have started this chain of events is dying while typing (some sort of infinite loop?).

Got back to windows, went to lev 18 again. This time it didn't destroy everything, but after playing the level for a bit it just exited, wham right to desktop, no error message or anything.

Hope these details help a bit Jono http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Hudson]

I would kill a man for one of those limited edition blood mousepads http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Blood is still to this day one of my favorite games ever made. It has reached an insane cult status http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[WillisDM]

Now for the longest Blood OT yet.


NotWieder3DR said:

Besli said:
Uh, never saw this!
A great url that maybe will help to make the Blood port:
http://files.deathmask.net/



Is that a Cryptic Passage ISO I see in there? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif



Yes, it was, as it had been requested by many people searching for it. I, however, did not intend to leave it there this long, I just kinda forgot about it. I understand how you feel as a developer about full content being openly available. It is a project has fallen into that grey area of abandonware (note SunStorm doesn't even have the demo available for download anymore and Wizard Works was aquired by Atari.... we all know what that means ). If it were available anywhere other than auction sites, it would never have been put up (props to 3DR for keeping their games alive past normal retail sales! And even more for releasing source to otherwise unsupported games! When are you guys going to take over Atari for us? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif ). The file has been removed.


[i]Ras said:
I wonder if those listed on eBay are legit, or if he's running off his own copies.



They are legit, cd-only (no box) versions. Hoots Loots seems to be a jewel case liquidator of sorts.


[i]Maren Gnawol said:
While fearing I could be digging too much into this offtopicness, the Plasma Pack was nice but I felt it kicked ass mostly for the weapon enhancements, the maps weren't as inspired and atmospheric as the CP ones.



The Plasma Pak had a bit of the feel from Blood's early alpha/beta days which was nice, but CP levels seemed much more fun to me.


Sir_Lemonhead said:
the plasma pack had more than new levels. There were new enemies(the little calebs that burst out of the broken mirrors was brilliant further ripping off of the evil dead series ) and new weapon firing modes.



Those mini-Caleb's were a great homage! I'm surprised they didn't make it into the original.


Gila said:
would you please stop posting that deathmask links, mmkay?

i don't wanna lose that small but cool blood cult leftovers aka "community" we have there http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Deathmask.net will never die! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[WillisDM]

Hudson said:
I would kill a man for one of those limited edition blood mousepads http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Blood is still to this day one of my favorite games ever made. It has reached an insane cult status http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Hehehe, I'm only aware of two of them that still exist.
I own one of them, and you can't kill the man behind the deathmask!

[Maren Gnawol]

Rider said:
most of them are with the mouse freaking out at 'sudden movements'



I experienced this movement for about 5 seconds till I realized the mouse was set to make you walk foward/backward instead of looking up or down, I just disabled that and it's fine. There's also the screen jerkiness with enabled vsync issue, but that shouldn't trigger undesired movements. Weird.

[Hudson]

WillisDM said:

Hudson said:
I would kill a man for one of those limited edition blood mousepads http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Blood is still to this day one of my favorite games ever made. It has reached an insane cult status http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Hehehe, I'm only aware of two of them that still exist.
I own one of them, and you can't kill the man behind the deathmask!



Haha, don't worry you're safe http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Anyone as dedicated to Blood as you I could take a bullet for http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

But if you do happen to come across one for sale somewhere and you aren't interested in it yourself, let me know if you think of it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Rider]

Maren Gnawol said:

Rider said:
most of them are with the mouse freaking out at 'sudden movements'



I experienced this movement for about 5 seconds till I realized the mouse was set to make you walk foward/backward instead of looking up or down, I just disabled that and it's fine. There's also the screen jerkiness with enabled vsync issue, but that shouldn't trigger undesired movements. Weird.



The option to make the vertical axis of the mouse make you look up/down is not available in the setup. Disabling it's function will make it stop working entirely for me.

and the jerkyness happens on both axis with sudden movements.

Edit: Fixed it! The mouse acceleration was set to 4 and 2, setting both to 1 fixes any movement issues!

[Maren Gnawol]

Rider said:The option to make the vertical axis of the mouse make you look up/down is not available in the setup. Disabling it's function will make it stop working entirely for me.

and the jerkyness happens on both axis with sudden movements



http://img27.exs.cx/img27/5023/noname2oc.png

[Damien_Azreal]

Hudson said:

WillisDM said:

Hudson said:
I would kill a man for one of those limited edition blood mousepads http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Blood is still to this day one of my favorite games ever made. It has reached an insane cult status http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Hehehe, I'm only aware of two of them that still exist.
I own one of them, and you can't kill the man behind the deathmask!



Haha, don't worry you're safe http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Anyone as dedicated to Blood as you I could take a bullet for http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

But if you do happen to come across one for sale somewhere and you aren't interested in it yourself, let me know if you think of it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



I asked Willis a few months ago about it and still nothing. I think we're screwed on this BLOOD item Hudson.

Oh well... back to my game I go. I've been playing SW and Blood for the past few hours. Only stopping to try out Doom 3's expansion and get some food.

[Ironhell]

Damien_Azreal said:

Hudson said:

WillisDM said:

Hudson said:
I would kill a man for one of those limited edition blood mousepads http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Blood is still to this day one of my favorite games ever made. It has reached an insane cult status http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Hehehe, I'm only aware of two of them that still exist.
I own one of them, and you can't kill the man behind the deathmask!



Haha, don't worry you're safe http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Anyone as dedicated to Blood as you I could take a bullet for http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

But if you do happen to come across one for sale somewhere and you aren't interested in it yourself, let me know if you think of it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



I asked Willis a few months ago about it and still nothing. I think we're screwed on this BLOOD item Hudson.

Oh well... back to my game I go. I've been playing SW and Blood for the past few hours. Only stopping to try out Doom 3's expansion and get some food.



You guys should check Ebay every so often, thats where I got mine for 10 bucks.

[Damien_Azreal]

You guys should check Ebay every so often, thats where I got mine for 10 bucks.



10 BUCKS?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Seriously? The Blood mouse pad.

I check Ebay all the time for Blood collectables (mostly the mouse pad and t-shirts).

[Ironhell]

Damien_Azreal said:

You guys should check Ebay every so often, thats where I got mine for 10 bucks.



10 BUCKS?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Seriously? The Blood mouse pad.

I check Ebay all the time for Blood collectables (mostly the mouse pad and t-shirts).



Seriously. Willis pointed it out on the Transfusion forums about a year ago, and I won it for about 10-12 bucks. It comes sealed to the back of the Blood Bloodless version. I keep it in its shipping box cause of its rarity.

[SamSwashbuckler]

First of all, if you guys want to keep talking about Blood, how 'bout you do it in a different topic?! It's a great game, but this is not the place for it.

I "solve" the mouse aiming issue by assigning mouse-up to aim-up and mouse-down to aim-down. It's not perfect, but it's the best you're gonna get for now.

[Rider]

SamSwashbuckler said:
First of all, if you guys want to keep talking about Blood, how 'bout you do it in a different topic?! It's a great game, but this is not the place for it.

I "solve" the mouse aiming issue by assigning mouse-up to aim-up and mouse-down to aim-down. It's not perfect, but it's the best you're gonna get for now.



this works for me. (special notice, Mouse sensetivity is a big factor!)

[Viciarg]

1.) JFSW crashed at the Serpent Boss as I had him down at ca. 50% health with a SIGSEGV.
2.) Another possible bug: HOM in the Ripper Valley as I used the Levitation and looked to the cave where the flying carpet is in.

Screenshot:

[3D Master]

What does HOM stand for?

[Rellik66]

3D Master said:
What does HOM stand for?

Hall of Mirrors effect

[Viciarg]

Viciarg said:
1.) JFSW crashed at the Serpent Boss as I had him down at ca. 50% health with a SIGSEGV.




I tracked this down to a crash while using the Ripper heart. I used it while fighting the serpent and I used it on lvl 5, both times it crashed. I used it on lvl 1 and it worked. Strange http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Phayzon]

The day igot jfSW it ran fine but now, this happens no matter what bpp or resolution, fullscreen or window...

[SamSwashbuckler]

Rider said:

SamSwashbuckler said:
First of all, if you guys want to keep talking about Blood, how 'bout you do it in a different topic?! It's a great game, but this is not the place for it.

I "solve" the mouse aiming issue by assigning mouse-up to aim-up and mouse-down to aim-down. It's not perfect, but it's the best you're gonna get for now.



this works for me. (special notice, Mouse sensetivity is a big factor!)



Analog_Moving makes you WALK forward and backward, though, doesn't it? I want the mouseup and mousedown to LOOK up and down.

[Rider]

SamSwashbuckler said:

Rider said:

SamSwashbuckler said:
First of all, if you guys want to keep talking about Blood, how 'bout you do it in a different topic?! It's a great game, but this is not the place for it.

I "solve" the mouse aiming issue by assigning mouse-up to aim-up and mouse-down to aim-down. It's not perfect, but it's the best you're gonna get for now.



this works for me. (special notice, Mouse sensetivity is a big factor!)



Analog_Moving makes you WALK forward and backward, though, doesn't it? I want the mouseup and mousedown to LOOK up and down.



unless mouse aiming is on http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[TropicalHyena]

This is excellent! I'm so glad Shadow Warrior is now portable!

Two things to mention:

One thing, it sounds like the mouse thing is almost insignificant to you guys, whoa. To me, it's unplayable, so I turn the mouse off. But I know this is being corrected in the next release, so, it's cool.

Secondly, this may be dumb, but I'm going to mention it now. Have you guys noticed some sound weirdness? Sounds playback beautifully, and all work, but it seems like the wrong sounds... Load up and play through Seppuku Station, originally, there'd be freaky long drawn out "Howlooooooooo!!!!!" sounds. Now, they're replaced by the real quick "OWOW!!!!!" of a wounded enemy. I guess maybe the "howls" were actually the same sound, just stretched out a ton. - Still, if possible, I'd love to have that back, and working. The freaky howl sounds were part of what made the game's atmosphere!

Edit: Also, this may have been mentioned, but security moniters are HOMed in game.

[Ras]

If it sounds insignificant, it's only because it's not universal. The mouse is working fine for me. As for the sounds, the main thing I hear is what sounds like the monsters' "agitated" state being constantly active.

[gila]

Secondly, this may be dumb, but I'm going to mention it now. Have you guys noticed some sound weirdness? Sounds playback beautifully, and all work, but it seems like the wrong sounds... Load up and play through Seppuku Station, originally, there'd be freaky long drawn out "Howlooooooooo!!!!!" sounds. Now, they're replaced by the real quick "OWOW!!!!!" of a wounded enemy. I guess maybe the "howls" were actually the same sound, just stretched out a ton. - Still, if possible, I'd love to have that back, and working. The freaky howl sounds were part of what made the game's atmosphere!


finally someone else noticed it besides me. it plays pain sounds instead of "roaming" sounds.

strangely i don't have HOM effects anywhere...

[Maren Gnawol]

The "agitation" effect *might* be a side effect of having 32 sounds enabled instead of let's say, 8. I can't confirm as I'm not in front of my computer right now but you could switch to a lower number (in case you haven't) and let us know what happens.

[Ras]

I do have 32 voices activated. I'll try lowering that later.

[Rider]

has anyone noticed how the brightness screws up at startup? It's superbright at boot, then when you alter it once in the menu, it jumps back to the original value.

it's really strange...

[jimbob]

yeah, i noticed. wanted to post it but i have the concentration span of a


hey look a bird \\\o/

[JonoF]

Thanks for this information. I'm making note of these things and will fix them as I get to them.

Jonathon

[Rellik66]

Another bug, switching to 3rd person view(F7) the HUD weapon stays visible.

and a note on the camera wall, it works in 8bit classic mode, so it must be a OpenGL bug as mentioned in the Release notes. IIRC, JFDuke has a similar probem with the security monitors, when you start to back away from the security monitor, the camera should still be visible, but it's not:

[Phayzon]

You do realize that what you posted is jfDuke, we're talking about jfSW

[Ras]

He's using it as an example to try to help with the security camera problem in jfSW.

[SamSwashbuckler]

Interesting, you put in the JF setup that you want mouse MOVING on, and then in-game you use the mouse AIMING option (default U) in order to use the in-game vertical mouse-aiming? That's a bit odd.....

Anyway, the mouse aiming as it currently stands, is about as good as what I suggested before, assigning mouseUp to aim up and mouseDown to aim down. I'm sure Jono will improve it.

[Phayzon]

Ras said:
He's using it as an example to try to help with the security camera problem in jfSW.



Oh, ok.

[Ras]

The only mouse problems I have right now are when I control vehicles. For some reason, the view is drifting up or down when I try to turn. It's making the vehicles practically uncontrollable.

[MegaMustaine]

Game crashed when I shot at a shadow ninja with a rocket, and at the same time he launched his explosive attack at me.

[SamSwashbuckler]

Did it give an error message? I've had one or two crashes where it simply exits to desktop, no warning/message/indication at all.

[Viciarg]

You may find the reason for the crashes in the logfile...

[MegaMustaine]

No message, just crashed.

[Rider]

say, are those 'cloaked' gunfodder guys supposed to be able to kill you in 1 shot? Because honoustly it's getting a bit annoying to get so far and then not noticing him and get pwned in 1 shot...

[Sir Lemonhead]

Rider said:
say, are those 'cloaked' gunfodder guys supposed to be able to kill you in 1 shot? Because honoustly it's getting a bit annoying to get so far and then not noticing him and get pwned in 1 shot...



I'm getting killed ridiculously easily by certain enemies..namely those green things who's head you can use as a weapon. Seems like 1 hit kill at times (sorry, I don't know Shadow Warrior that well http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)

[Parkar]

It has always been to hard for me, never finnished the game even on the easiest skill.

[gila]

yes, the cloaked ninja was insanely powerful, since he uses some weirdass "lots of fireballs" attack that seems to get you in most cases even if you try to run around, and it took off tons of hp and could easily push you off the cliff or something, that dude packs a great kick. green dudes aka the guardians were also kinda strong, so no problemo here...

as far as difficulty goes - i *did* beat shadow warrior on no pain no gain in the old dos/win98 times. in some cases i was so low on ammo that i had to use gas bombs, shadow bombs (invisibility + fist powah!) even those useless caltrops (for single play anyway), but it's manageable. i find it kinda easier than duke3d's max difficulty because enemies don't respawn.

[Dark Pulse]

A quick note regarding those having problems with the Monitor in E1M1, Seppuku Station: Using 8-bit color mode will fix it (And will also turn on Voxels.)

Five bucks to any of you who remember me. Swashbuckler don't count.

[SamSwashbuckler]

The Guardian Head weapon (weapon 9) can actually shoot that "lots of fireballs" attack (3rd fire mode), and yes, it's VERY powerful (but uses tons of ammo). I don't recall the actual Guardians using it though.

The cloaked guys use that same attack. Yes, they're very hard; your best bet is to stay out of sight, and shoot something around the corner or pop out to shoot something explosive or use the riot gun then hide again.

/me makes a new account and "remembers" Dark Pulse.

[gila]

The Guardian Head weapon (weapon 9) can actually shoot that "lots of fireballs" attack (3rd fire mode), and yes, it's VERY powerful (but uses tons of ammo). I don't recall the actual Guardians using it though.


shadow ninja's attack is similar but it's a bit different. yes he fires the same "3-sorta-explosions-flame-line" but also out of that line small green fireballs fly out sideways:

<--- | | --->
<--- | | --->
<--- | | --->
<--- | | --->

| | being the fire line

and < and > being fireballs.

that makes this attack cover a pretty big area....


The cloaked guys use that same attack. Yes, they're very hard; your best bet is to stay out of sight, and shoot something around the corner or pop out to shoot something explosive or use the riot gun then hide again.


or use shadow bombs! and punch em good.

[MegaMustaine]

The build games are the hardest games around. I think that D3d is the easiest, Shadow Warrior is second hardest, and Blood on Extra Crispy is by far the most difficult.

[TerminX]

MegaMustaine said:
The build games are the hardest games around. I think that D3d is the easiest, Shadow Warrior is second hardest, and Blood on Extra Crispy is by far the most difficult.


I find myself agreeing with this statement. I think a lot of it is memorization, though -- I find Duke3D quite easy because I literally know where every enemy in the game is. SW on the other hand (which I never got a chance to play through fully but will soon) I find quite a bit more difficult.

[Sir Lemonhead]

MegaMustaine said:
The build games are the hardest games around. I think that D3d is the easiest, Shadow Warrior is second hardest, and Blood on Extra Crispy is by far the most difficult.



Hehe well Extra Crispy was intended to be a co-op skill level..

I've played Blood to the point where i've got pretty damn good at it, but I find myself being annihilated in SW still :\

[Parkar]

I will beat it a soon as jfsw is stable enough and suports saveing. I even have trouble on the first map sometimes. But at the moment I blame that on the "iffy" mouse aim http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.

I mostly played sw in multiplayer agains my brother and friend or two over modem. I realy need to dig out that map I made that we used to play on. It was not a great mp map in the normal way (way of balanced, way to big, way to much guns etc) but we had a blast sneaking around. Hearing the arming nuklear warhead ... and not knowing were your oponent were was frustating(in a good way). the fact that the nuke was on a small island in the middle of the map making you an easy target trying to get it was fun to. Ohh yea nad it had working surfing boards with small jet engines.

[SamSwashbuckler]

That level sounds great, hope you can find it so I can try it too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I'm not too "serious" about WangBangs, I like to try out weird levels.

[KaiserSoze]

o.k. i got my copy of shadow warrior for 99 cents off ebay. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/you can beat me with a wet noodle now, i had only previously played the demo a bit.

anyways, the port seems to work well.

no mouse aim, at least i can't seem to figure out how to get it running.

also, when i shoot enemies and they die, they kinda flash and show a big square of graphics..it's a weird glitch but nothing too annoying.

i know about no cd sound.

the actual sound effects are crisp and clear.

i'm running the game at 1024x768 and it's nice and smooth.

key configuration i have to look into better. i play with the right side keyboard arrow buttons, with right ctrl usually binded as jump, shift as prone and f for action.

i don't think ctrl keys are bindable. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

can't wait to play more and thanks again 3dr and jonf!

[Eclipse]

KaiserSoze said:
no mouse aim, at least i can't seem to figure out how to get it running.



The default is U, although the key repeat is a bit sensitive so keep pressing it until you trick it into working http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


i don't think ctrl keys are bindable. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif


They are listed as RCtrl and LCtrl

[KaiserSoze]

Eclipse said:

KaiserSoze said:
no mouse aim, at least i can't seem to figure out how to get it running.



The default is U, although the key repeat is a bit sensitive so keep pressing it until you trick it into working http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


i don't think ctrl keys are bindable. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif


They are listed as RCtrl and LCtrl



thanks eclipse! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MegaMustaine]

If you have never played blood you should look into that Kaiser. Off of ebay it is pretty expensive though. It is better than SW IMHO. Although I love Lo Wang.

[KaiserSoze]

MegaMustaine said:
If you have never played blood you should look into that Kaiser. Off of ebay it is pretty expensive though. It is better than SW IMHO. Although I love Lo Wang.



haha, i was just browsing ebay today and noticed a few people had blood up. damn, it's gonna be expensive to pick one up. i have the demo and play it, seems really cool. i'll just have to keep my eye out.

[Boinky]

OT: Blood is on ebay for about 13 USD..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27234&item=8182588188&rd=1

[3D Master]

MegaMustaine said:
The build games are the hardest games around. I think that D3d is the easiest, Shadow Warrior is second hardest, and Blood on Extra Crispy is by far the most difficult.



I can't remember if Shadow Warrior was that hard. I do remember beating it though; except I used a cheat once. In one of the first level I could never find a key so I used noclipping to get past the door. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Theseus314]

Probably dumb question: Is there any way to get this to compile under Visual Studio .NET ?

[JonoF]

Use "nmake /f Makefile.msvc" from a command prompt. There's no projects.

Jonathon

[KaiserSoze]

i'm having no luck with the mouse aim option. it appears to be switching on and off rapidly and i'm unable to lock in a mode.

eclipse-thanks for the tip on the bindings.

[Eclipse]

KaiserSoze said:
i'm having no luck with the mouse aim option. it appears to be switching on and off rapidly and i'm unable to lock in a mode.



Keep mashing it wish short keypresses, you'll get it eventually http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Rider]

Eclipse said:

KaiserSoze said:
i'm having no luck with the mouse aim option. it appears to be switching on and off rapidly and i'm unable to lock in a mode.



Keep mashing it wish short keypresses, the port will get it eventually http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



fixed http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Eric R.]

ican get the music to work what can I do? my mother board uses VIA sound

PD: it was nice to kill those bunnies again

[Maren Gnawol]

Wait for the next JFSW release http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Eric R.]

well I'll have to do it thanks!

[Sgt. Nukem]

Besli said:
Wow, very great work JonoF + Ken!!
Only thing i miss now is jFBlood! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Time to start make textures and models for Shadow Warrior now!



Oh, and I miss jFRedneck... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Very bad, nobody cares 'bout that... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif



BTW, ontopic:

My girlfriend's notebook: SW.EXE starts, but no sign of SW starting. It seems to end just before it really starts.

Logfile doesn't help much:

approx.:
Init OpenGL bla..
Init DirectInput bla..

Deinit DirectInput...


Seems QUITting is triggered before the first (title) screen comes up. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Psykomanius]

"Only thing i miss now is jFBlood! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif"

"Oh, and I miss jFRedneck... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif"

Yeah. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
jFRedneck 1 & 2, jFBlood, jFDuke, jFShadow Warrior.
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Phayzon]

I cant even find out about an RR source code or alternate windows port, I havnt played it in so long!!! jfBlood would be cool to (WinBlood dont even work)

[Renegado]

Looks like there's a shading problem with the graphics displayed over the weapons:

[Sir Lemonhead]

Phayzon said:
I cant even find out about an RR source code or alternate windows port, I havnt played it in so long!!! jfBlood would be cool to (WinBlood dont even work)



Contact Vivendi Universal about a source code release as they own the rights to the RR series.

As for WinBlood, hang on http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Psykomanius]

Sir_Lemonhead said:

Phayzon said:
I cant even find out about an RR source code or alternate windows port, I havnt played it in so long!!! jfBlood would be cool to (WinBlood dont even work)



Contact Vivendi Universal about a source code release as they own the rights to the RR series.

As for WinBlood, hang on http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



...Someone make a RR Source Code release petition http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Phayzon]

I thought Xatrix/Grey Matter did?

[TerminX]

Renegado said:
Looks like there's a shading problem with the graphics displayed over the weapons:


Good catch.

[Sir Lemonhead]

Phayzon said:
I thought Xatrix/Grey Matter did?



Yeah, so did I. Until someone from here told me otherwise ( Kristian Joensen
)

I think it's the same deal with Blood, Interplay who published RR sold the rights to Vivendi. Grey Matter/Xatrix made the game, so like Monolith they still display it on their website.

Vivendi bought the rights to the RR series for.....300,000 dollars http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[MegaMustaine]

Sir_Lemonhead said:

Phayzon said:
I thought Xatrix/Grey Matter did?



Yeah, so did I. Until someone from here told me otherwise ( Kristian Joensen
)

I think it's the same deal with Blood, Interplay who published RR sold the rights to Vivendi. Grey Matter/Xatrix made the game, so like Monolith they still display it on their website.

Vivendi bought the rights to the RR series for.....300,000 dollars http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



That sounds about right. RR was a hard game to sell IMO. Although I still like the game. It is a good game that is over shadowed by the three bigger build games, SW, D3D, and Blood.

[Enragiated]

I lost my copy of shadow warrior, I hate myself

[Semicharm]

KaiserSoze said:
haha, i was just browsing ebay today and noticed a few people had blood up. damn, it's gonna be expensive to pick one up. i have the demo and play it, seems really cool. i'll just have to keep my eye out.



I got my copy of Blood off GameTZ (http://gametz.com/). They mainly trade games but some people sell as well. There's also an abandonware site that has Blood with Plasma Pak and Cryptic Passage for a 30MB download. The game is not the same without the CD music though.

[Maren Gnawol]

From lith.com:
If you are interested in purchasing a copy of Blood or Blood 2, you will need to contact Atari (formerly Infogrames and GT Interactive), the game's publisher, at: us.pr@atari.com. Monolith does not sell our titles directly



You might try luck there.

[Damien_Azreal]

Maren Gnawol said:
From lith.com:
If you are interested in purchasing a copy of Blood or Blood 2, you will need to contact Atari (formerly Infogrames and GT Interactive), the game's publisher, at: us.pr@atari.com. Monolith does not sell our titles directly



You might try luck there.



They will simply send you an email saying this game is no longer being sold. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Just check eBay and Amazon a lot.

Also check half.com they have some copies of Blood there.


I was playing Shadow Warrior earlier and was fighting Zilla, I noticed the sound of my dual submachineguns was cutting in and out. Anyone else had this happen?

[Roger]

I just got owned by a generic swinging door. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[Semicharm]

I remember having that problem with the original too. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif Some of them would spring really quick like a mouse trap.

[Sgt. Nukem]

Sir_Lemonhead said:

Phayzon said:
I thought Xatrix/Grey Matter did?



Yeah, so did I. Until someone from here told me otherwise ( Kristian Joensen
)



Some weeks ago when surfing Transfusion I also thought about a RR source release campaign.

Both Interplay and Xatrix are dead, condulences...

I was pondering of contacting Grey Matter - but they only show their FAX number, no eMail and stuff.
And this is kinda expensive from here, Germany.

Will any of you US guys phone / FAX them?!?
This would be nice.



MegaMustaine said:That sounds about right. RR was a hard game to sell IMO. Although I still like the game. It is a good game that is over shadowed by the three bigger build games, SW, D3D, and Blood.



But then, why the heck is there an AddOn and a "sequel"/AddOn for RR, whereas for SW, there isn't?!?

I can't imagine it sold that less... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I put Win98 onto the laptop of my darling, and on some other boxes as well, just for having RR in COOP back again, last week. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I loved the veeery big levels (comparing to SW, B, D3D), and the cool "reality" atmosphere...

For me, jFRedneck would be the icing on everything.

Okay, and for deathmatch: jFBlood (the proximity dynamite and the skull where hot like hell)


BTW: Was ROTT a BUILD-game, too?!? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Not really, was it?!

[Viciarg]

Sgt. Nukem said:
BTW: Was ROTT a BUILD-game, too?!? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Not really, was it?!



No, it isn't. This issue was already discussed in other topics.

[December Man]

Semicharm said:
I got my copy of Blood off GameTZ (http://gametz.com/). They mainly trade games but some people sell as well. There's also an abandonware site that has Blood with Plasma Pak and Cryptic Passage for a 30MB download. The game is not the same without the CD music though.



You're right. The MIDI's are no match for the CD music...

[Ras]

I'm getting an error in the log file that doesn't have a noticeable effect on the game. It's trying to load DEFS.CON, but I don't have that file. Should it be there? If so, should I grab a copy off my SW disc?

[TerminX]

Ras said:
I'm getting an error in the log file that doesn't have a noticeable effect on the game. It's trying to load DEFS.CON, but I don't have that file. Should it be there? If so, should I grab a copy off my SW disc?


SW doesn't use CON files.

[gila]

You're right. The MIDI's are no match for the CD music...


in blood's case, some of cd tracks weren't made as midis but alot of midi tracks aren't on the cd. so in blood, both choises are awesome.

[TerminX]

gila said:


You're right. The MIDI's are no match for the CD music...


in blood's case, some of cd tracks weren't made as midis but alot of midi tracks aren't on the cd. so in blood, both choises are awesome.


That's because Blood itself is awesome.

[djimd]

Just before we get back on topic http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif :
Has anyone found a way to get the blood cd tracks to loop within a level ?
No matter what i do to the settings each track will play once for each level and then stop - where as the midi tracks loop continuosly.

[jimbob]

djimd said:
Just before we get back on topic http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif :
Has anyone found a way to get the blood cd tracks to loop within a level ?
No matter what i do to the settings each track will play once for each level and then stop - where as the midi tracks loop continuosly.

i had the same problem with mortal kombat 3 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Blade Nightflame]

{Crash Bomb}

This happens a lot when I throw a sticky bomb, at a certain sprite. Here's the steps..

{Crash Bomb Guide}

First, as always, I start Shadow Warrior, fix the brightness so it's maximum (but yet still dark compared to the starting brightness), then I go to the very first level, of the Shareware Episode.

I sometimes either choose the 3rd or 2nd difficult skill, then type SWCHAN, then SWGIMME, and after killing the enemies, and seeing the bus blow up the Ninja. I walk out and select the Sticky Bomb, I go to the last coin-placer thingy that's near the car. And also near the door to the Baggage Claim (well, after getting off Lo Wang's dojo, just go totally right. Your right.)

After that, throw the sticky bomb at the coin-placer thing, and presto! Crashing game bomb.

[gila]

Has anyone found a way to get the blood cd tracks to loop within a level ?
No matter what i do to the settings each track will play once for each level and then stop - where as the midi tracks loop continuosly.


what version of the game do you have?

i remember playing blood and it constantly looped cd trax

[Chip]

Just got the jfsw thing and as well as encoutering the problems allready menchioned, I also noticed that I now have Shurikens instead of those darts. I have allready noticed the difference in how they attack.

But that save and loading problem is really ennoying.
I have not read all the posts in this thread so I don't know if it's been solved or not.

[Maren Gnawol]

Chip said:But that save and loading problem is really ennoying.
I have not read all the posts in this thread so I don't know if it's been solved or not.



It's not a problem but a feature disabled for the first release.

[TerminX]

Chip said:
Just got the jfsw thing and as well as encoutering the problems allready menchioned, I also noticed that I now have Shurikens instead of those darts. I have allready noticed the difference in how they attack.

But that save and loading problem is really ennoying.
I have not read all the posts in this thread so I don't know if it's been solved or not.


The only difference between the shurikens and the darts is the artwork, as I recall. The darts were not in the original game, only in a version modified to get around the bullshit laws in the UK.

[Chip]

Why the hell is there laws about shurikens?

[Karmus]

Ive noticed a bug with weapon 0 the heart when using them in code of honor episode level 1 rising something it can sometimes crash the game ("sw.exe") and return to windows.

[Blade Nightflame]

Karmus said:
Ive noticed a bug with weapon 0 the heart when using them in code of honor episode level 1 rising something it can sometimes crash the game ("sw.exe") and return to windows.



It happens to everyone. Not only you. You aren't allooonneee. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[hitman71]

Finally i am allowed to post http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Just wanted to say great job so far JonoF, any news on how u are getting on with the next release ?

thanks.

[GodBlitZor]

The Ripper Heart weapon can crash the game any time.

[K T Ong]

What's the sound setting I should use? Seems that JFSW doesn't autodetect my sound settings for me and I have to manually adjust the sound settings, none of which so far seemed to work for me... (I use SOUNDMAX.)

Great work, BTW, Jonathan. I wish you every success with this mod -- and hope I'll eventually be able to play it... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Chip]

I havn't been keeping a track of JFsw so I am asking - has JFsw had it's second release yet with working save and load games?

[Parkar]

Nope not yet.

[JonoF]

JFShadowWarrior (http://jonof.edgenetwork.org/?p=jfsw) has just been updated. It now has save-game support. I had hoped to get multiplayer going for this release but that would have held things up for even longer, so I'll release an update with multiplayer in the near future. The game should be quite stable now.

Let me know of any problems, and have fun.

Jonathon

[Psykomanius]

Yeeeees !!!

Thanks JonoF http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

The Mouselook is bettere too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[WarHammer]

Working save games! Fixed CD music! Smooth mouse aim! You sir, kick so much ass! The only problems I'm encountered with this release so far was finding a download location that had updated their links yet. The screens still don't work but, except for the episode 1 key, that's pretty minor. I haven't tested out the ripper heart to see if it still can crash the game yet.

[Ras]

Ahh, yes! I will finally be able to play through again, thanks to the saves. Thanks, Jonof.

By the way, is there a way to have the game use my E: drive for CD audio?

[MegaMustaine]

You son of a bitch Jono, I have to start my new job tommorow, and you do this to me. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif Well besides that thanks alot man, the save system works beautifully. This may sound gay, but I love the Wang! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Ronstar]

Ah my gosh, I think I gonna cu...

uhm..., well thank u m8 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[tpz]

Thank you for this nice release.

I noticed savegamescreenshots screw up if there is a voxel object in view.

[JonoF]

Thanks for the reminder. Problem will be fixed in next release.

Jonathon

[JonoF]

Ras said:
By the way, is there a way to have the game use my E: drive for CD audio?


Looks like I forgot to add that option. Oops.

Jonathon

[3D Master]

None of the links work! Except EdgeFiles, but there the acutal download links don't work. ::whimpers::

[djimd]

Nice Work Jonof. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
The ingame music sound level adjustment is greyed out and not working - maybe you just missed something because the slidebar works ok in the cd audio quick fix previously put out by Arkion.
I guess the only way now is via an edit of the sx.cfg file. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JonoF]

I never wrote mixer control code for the CD device. I suppose I probably ought to, eh? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Jonathon

[djimd]

JonoF said:
I never wrote mixer control code for the CD device. I suppose I probably ought to, eh? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Jonathon



Hehe - at least I hadn't missed something. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Further testing and the new port works great - but joystick still wanders -(like it did temporarily with an earlier jfduke release) - I tried cut and pasting my jfduke joystick configs to no avail - I guess the two games aren't compatible with their joystick input.

[Bugi]

woot! Great work, finally the save game is working.
Two things I noticed:
-When closing the game, it doesn't shut down completely, I still have to kill it from task manager. (winxp)
-setting texture brightness in build doesn't work :/

[NightFright]

Hey there´s another solution: Why don´t you try finishing your OGG Vorbis support stuff for your JF ports? Would eliminate all the problems at once. We could just make Oggs from the CD tracks, and tada. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Chip]

Ha great. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SamSwashbuckler]

Vivendi bought the rights to the RR series for.....300,000 dollars http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



HAHA 300k? What a waste :P The game/addons were great, but there's no future in the series!

If anyone has trouble downloading the new JFSW, I've made it available here:
http://samswashbuckler.ath.cx/stuff/jfsw_20050531.zip

On a vaguely-related note, the latest Mapster, which isn't available on its own anymore, only with eDuke32 is there too:
http://samswashbuckler.ath.cx/stuff/eduke32_20050530.zip

[Ecmaster76]

Everything seems to be working fine, thanks!

One note:
I have an Audigy 2. I have my main optical drive attached to it with the 2 pin CD-digital connector. The four pin cd-audio connector goes to my burner, but since I don't play music from it I mute that connection in the 'Surround Mixer' contol. Doing so removes a faint hiss I hear at higher volume levels.

However the CD music in the game did not work until I unmuted the cd-audio (the connector attached to a drive the cd was not in). The cd digital was unmuted the whole time. Using the play button on the front of the drive produces sound if cd-digital is enabled regardless of what the cd-audio is set to.

Therefore I believe it could be a quirk in the game. I don't consider this a bug, because it may just be weirdness from Creative's software/drivers. I am posting this mailny for people who have similar hardware to have a fix, rather than to complain.