Quake 4 at Quakecon!

[Duoae]

Well, the multiplayer part of it anyway. So pretty much like the Doom 3 multiplayer was shown at quakecon last year then....

http://news.spong.com/x?art=8526

Quakecon is august 11-14th

Tod Hollenshead also spoke about id supporting PS3 and Xbox 2 with games, like they've started with Doom 3 collector's edition....

[Ronald McDonald]

I'm still not exited about Q4..... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Cerberus_e]

what is quakecon? is it some sort of huge lanparty?

[Micki!]

Cerberus_e said:
what is quakecon? is it some sort of huge lanparty?


That, and more...
It's like a Mini E3, just with id software related stuff ONLY... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Cerberus_e]

sure id software is interesting, but they don't have much to show, do they?
"look this is quake 4, oh yes, in case I haven't told it yet, this is quake 4, and while I'm at it, this is Quake 4"
any questions?
"yes!!! when will the next wolfenstein game come out?"
Todd:
-"well quake 4 is going to be shipped june this year"
-"shut up about your quake 4, we want commander keen"
-"aah you want to preorder quake 4? no problem, go there, thanks for coming to our expo!! now you can all go langaming.........."

[Karthik]

Oh, put a sock in it, mate!

[Thriller]

Karthik said:
Oh, put a sock in it, mate!

He has a point though. Calling it a "mini E3" might be a bit off. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Logic Bomb]

Quake2 was the last quake game i enjoyed and they should of stopped there.

- LB

[Marty]

^ well i didnt even bother much with Quake 3 because all it was was multiplayer

[jimbob]

there was a quake 3 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif









http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

Cerberus_e said:
sure id software is interesting, but they don't have much to show, do they?
"look this is quake 4, oh yes, in case I haven't told it yet, this is quake 4, and while I'm at it, this is Quake 4"
any questions?
"yes!!! when will the next wolfenstein game come out?"
Todd:
-"well quake 4 is going to be shipped june this year"
-"shut up about your quake 4, we want commander keen"
-"aah you want to preorder quake 4? no problem, go there, thanks for coming to our expo!! now you can all go langaming.........."


Oh man, that's funny.

[Mountain Man]

Logic Bomb said:
Quake2 was the last quake game i enjoyed and they should of stopped there.


In terms of gameplay design, that's exactly what they did. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Gryph]

I hope to go to QuakeCon this year. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Cerberus_e]

Orochi Avlis said:
Oh man, that's funny.



I hope you were using irony, or else you would give me false courage http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[John]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I'm looking forward to Quake IV, but only if its NOTHING like Doom 3.

[Cerberus_e]

John said:
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I'm looking forward to Quake IV, but only if its NOTHING like Doom 3.



...I'm going to give a neutral answer to this:
the graphics are the same http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Phayzon]

If Q4 is nothing like Q3 and Doom3 (Its supposedly a direct Q2 sequal http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) then ill get it.

[Karthik]

They shouldcall Quake 4 Quake 2.5 cause it's a direct seqeul to Quake 2 if you ask me!

[Duoae]

Quake 4 is supposed to have quake 2 SP and quake 3-like MP......

[Karthik]

Duoae said:
Quake 4 is supposed to have quake 2 SP and quake 3-like MP......


Still Quake 2 sold because of its single player!

[Duoae]

Karthik said:

Duoae said:
Quake 4 is supposed to have quake 2 SP and quake 3-like MP......


Still Quake 2 sold because of its single player!



And Quake 3 sold because of its multiplayer....

Looks like we're going to have the game of the century! (Except for DNF and Prey...)

[Roger]

Logic Bomb said:
Quake2 was the last quake game i enjoyed and they should of stopped there.

- LB



Quake 4 is a continuation of 2. It's also not being done by id, but by Raven.

[MeatWagon]

Cant say that I'm really thrilled with the quality of work Raven do, they do ok work thats not bad, but not brilliant either.

[Ronald McDonald]

Better than Id, anywayz http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Cerberus_e]

Ronald McDonald said:
Better than Id, anywayz http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



WHAT? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

tell me a game that you like, and it probably will have something to do with ID software, directly or indirectly...

wolfenstein 3d, doom, ... it all defined the world of FPS'es.

do you like half-life and half-life 2? that's fine, without ID software and their quake those games would never exist the same way they exist now.

do you rather like medal of honor: allied assault? good for you, runs on quake 3 by ID software

[FireFly]

I think he means game design work. Raven doesn't make engines, after all.

[hellchicken]

It's common knowledge among most gamers that id Software do better engine and network coding (Carmack) than they do gameplay and design of their own games.

Not saying all their games (since DooM) are shite, they sure are fun to play (I particularly liked Q 2 and 3) it's just that in id games the artwork, design and overall gameplay is merely a placeholder for some other software-studio's work.

[Cerberus_e]

I'm not talking about tech only.
also about gameplay, especially wolfenstein 3d and doom defined the gameplay of a lot of games that came after.

[FireFly]

He said "do", which is present tense. The Doom and Wolf days are over.

[Orochi Avlis]

Cerberus_e said:

Orochi Avlis said:
Oh man, that's funny.



I hope you were using irony, or else you would give me false courage http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Seriously, I got a chuckle out of it.

[hellchicken]

FireFly said:
He said "do", which is present tense. The Doom and Wolf days are over.



Yup, ever since Romero's departure.

Though, on his own he's not that great a gamedesigner IMO.

[someguy2435]

As of late, id hasn't really impressed me too much. Quake 3 was a disappointment IMO, RtCW was good but it was a different developer so it doesn't really count. I must admit Doom 3 looks very good, and I wish I had a PC that could run it. But overall, I've felt that the quality of id's games have really dropped a lot. Although, the fact that Quake 4 is a direct sequel to Quake 2 has caught my attention. I loved Quake 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Ronald McDonald]

Hexen 2 is one-of-a-kind and surpasses all of Id's inhouse games gameplay and art wise http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

IMO offcourse http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[Roger]

MeatWagon said:
Cant say that I'm really thrilled with the quality of work Raven do, they do ok work thats not bad, but not brilliant either.



You keed. Strife? Heretic 2?

[X-Vector]

Strife was developed by Rogue and Heretic 2 hardly set the gaming world ablaze - what's your point?

[X-Vector]

Ronald McDonald said:
Hexen 2 is one-of-a-kind and surpasses all of Id's inhouse games gameplay and art wise http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif




That's not saying much (and I disagree on the art design aspect, especially concerning DooM).

Hexen 2 had the advantage of being the first of the so-called Quake killers out of the gate.
Two months after release, it was severely outclassed by LEC's Jedi Knight, just as the following Quake II was to an even larger extent.

[Beelze]

Gamespot article + NEW screenshot (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/04/15/news_6122391.html)

[Duoae]

New article, but i think that screenshot has been around awhile. I've definately seen it before.

[Doppelgofer]

its been around as a scan but i've never seen it at that quality

[Ronald McDonald]

Still looks to much like D3, which makes it look p00py http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Drazula]

Quiet, ya clown. Quake 4 is going to look very different from Doom 3.

[Beelze]

Judging from the looks of all of the currently released screenshots, no.

[Ronald McDonald]

Drazula said:
Quiet, ya clown. Quake 4 is going to look very different from Doom 3.



Liar, liar pants on fire http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Nacho]

It does look kind of brighter, but you must remember Quake was a dark game too.

[Ronald McDonald]

Yes, but come on Raven. Use more colors than brown/black/grey ffs http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Hudson]

I am looking forward to Quake IV only because iD is not developing it. Not getting my hopes up, however I do really like Raven and the work they have done in the past.. so only time will tell.

[Cerberus_e]

Ronald McDonald said:
Still looks to much like D3, which makes it look p00py http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



huh? doom 3 has the best graphics of any existing released game

[Beelze]

It's all a matter of preference; he may not like the visual style.

[Cerberus_e]

Beelze said:
It's all a matter of preference; he may not like the visual style.



could be because that's something different than graphics.
art is a matter of preference, but graphics isn't.

[Beelze]

We're not discussing such graphics, though.

[FireFly]

Of course graphics are a matter of preference. How do you define "best graphics"?

Biggest textures? Most detailed models? Most consistent lighting? Most realistic lighting?

You can ask a hundred different people and each will give you a different answer, because the element that makes a world seem "most real" will vary from person to person.

[Beelze]

I think Cerberus is arguing that the Doom 3 engine is the most capable engine out there on which a game has been built.

Either way, I thought the style in Doom 3 was pretty good, even if monotone. I dislike that it seems Quake 4 will look so similar, though.

[Duoae]

Beelze said:
I think Cerberus is arguing that the Doom 3 engine is the most capable engine out there on which a game has been built.

Either way, I thought the style in Doom 3 was pretty good, even if monotone. I dislike that it seems Quake 4 will look so similar, though.



To be honest, i think that quake 4 is aiming at a similar - if updated - style seen in quake 2. Unfortunately, because both Doom and quake and quake 2 were all developed by id (not that it's a bad thing) the same theme of metallic industrialism runs throughout their games. Thus it makes sense that Doom 3 and quake 4 look similar as otherwise it would require the strogg homeworld to be completely transformed.......

[Lengis]

Ronald McDonald said:
Yes, but come on Raven. Use more colors than brown/black/grey ffs http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif



How about.......... NO. This isn't Unreal, it's Quake. Neon green and hot pink don't fit in this game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Stick to kids games if you like pretty colors.

[Cerberus_e]

I 100% like doom 3's environment, but i hope quake 4 doesn't look like doom 3, because doom 3 is good as it is "unique". I mean Doom 3 is good as is, I don't need a clone http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif