View Full Version : Prey to be Re-Revealed at E3?
megarust
04-05-2005, 12:37 PM
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/36449
I wonder if any of the old team members will be involved?
Gryph
04-05-2005, 12:43 PM
This is certainly interesting news. I wonder where he got that info from.
megarust
04-05-2005, 12:45 PM
Yeah, me too. But Morris is a cool guy, I don't think he'd spread that speculation around without some hard proof.
mysteryperfecta
04-05-2005, 12:57 PM
Yikes. Was the premise of that game ever more exciting than the promise of the tech that accompanied it? I don't remember the prospect of running around as a Native American to be "the thing". I mean, we have Turok. I thought "the thing" was portal technology, et al.
jet jaguar 2.0
04-05-2005, 01:58 PM
I sincerely hope they aren't diverting one iota of resources away from DNF to make this game. DNF is what made 3DR, if anything should be made to wait Prey should. Nobody is waiting for that game. Everybody is waiting for DNF.
Reckless
04-05-2005, 02:15 PM
Some more news on this - http://money.cnn.com/2005/04/05/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm
Rider
04-05-2005, 02:37 PM
I think that's to blame on us guys from the DNF Forums...
unless it's true...
*hopes*
Parkar
04-05-2005, 02:45 PM
I think its a bit far fetched to belive CNN would pick up a news storry from this board. This does not mean that the source is totaly reliable as we have no idea where CNN got the "scoop" from.
Maren Gnawol
04-05-2005, 02:47 PM
The ironic thing is that Prey was praised for having an exceptionally fast engine for it's time. Screw per pixel lighting http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Brick_Sledge
04-05-2005, 03:03 PM
Awesome!
I would also like to see DNF at E3.
Forrest Gump
04-05-2005, 03:21 PM
Great news !!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Kristian Joensen
04-05-2005, 03:31 PM
I think we should keep discussion about this in this (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=817861&page=0&vc=1&PHPSESSID=c627a9a2814d487a29df76831e33e98a#Post817 861) thread.
Viper Knight
04-05-2005, 05:37 PM
This is just a rumour and something we shouldn't take too seriously. Personally, I don't think it's true.
Reckless
04-05-2005, 05:51 PM
Kristian Joensen said:
I think we should keep discussion about this in this (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=817861&page=0&vc=1&PHPSESSID=c627a9a2814d487a29df76831e33e98a#Post817 861) thread.
Why? That thread is located in the DNF forum 'cause everyone wants it to be that game. It's as likely to be the as yet unannouced title that was spoke of last year so this forum makes sense.
I should have said that that discussion obviously did its usual trick around here and went off wildly (from conjecture to tech talk on portals and beyond!). Interesting stuff but not really focused on DNF http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I'd like the game to be Prey - only so that there's something to redirect everyone's attention whilst we wait for another year+
megarust
04-05-2005, 06:10 PM
Kristian Joensen said:
I think we should keep discussion about this in this (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=817861&page=0&vc=1&PHPSESSID=c627a9a2814d487a29df76831e33e98a#Post817 861) thread.
How about no. This has made an article on a reputable site, it deserves it's own thread and considering it's not DNF, it doesn't make sense to put it in a DNF forum thread.
Back to the topic on hand, I'm fairly curious as to what similarities this will have to the Prey of old besides the usage of the IP, as are most of you it seems. I think the portal technology could be used to yield some interesting results in creative hands. But considering the fact that it's been many years since that technology was in the works, and considering that this project has shifted to another developer, maybe they have something different in mind technology and concept wise. Hell, maybe it'll just be a straight shooter.
Viper Knight
04-05-2005, 06:28 PM
Kristian Joensen said:
I think we should keep discussion about this in this (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=817861&page=0&vc=1&PHPSESSID=c627a9a2814d487a29df76831e33e98a#Post817 861) thread.
Also, I made my last post on that thread LOOOOONG ago. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Karthik
04-05-2005, 07:54 PM
So you think CNN believed all the rumours we posted in this forums?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
St. Toxic
04-05-2005, 08:38 PM
They picked up my alien abduction story last year.
Viper Knight
04-05-2005, 11:20 PM
Karthik said:
So you think CNN believed all the rumours we posted in this forums?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Maybe. I've sent the person who wrote the CNN article an email asking where he got his info from. If he replies I'll let you know.
thefly
04-06-2005, 01:45 AM
Viper Knight said:
This is just a rumour and something we shouldn't take too seriously. Personally, I don't think it's true.
Well, let's just wait to see if megarust shows up dead or not. OK? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
BTW: Megarust....can I have your comic book collection http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Does CNN have any relible source of that speculation? If it's true then the roumer 3-4 years ago at evil avatar was rigth (it wsa developed by Human Head with the Doom 3 engine).
Would be rather nice to hear what 3dRealms have to say about this.
And before Max Payne, Remedy shipped Death Rally. And id's first game was a 2D side scroller.
Just sayin'.
Is this a confirmation from George Broussard?
If it is, why did you choose Human Head for to make Prey, was it becasue you liked what they did with rune and the Unreal engine (I remember you said you really liked Rune and what they did with Rune. Bur that was 4-5 years ago that your said that). So when Evilavatar said Prey might be developed at Human Head (some years ago) I right away thought what you've said about Human Head and it all made much more sence.
MegaMustaine
04-06-2005, 02:49 AM
Charlie was looking at these forums a minute ago, although I doubt he would reply. He knows the truth behind prey and DNF. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Lengis
04-06-2005, 11:18 AM
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/04/05/news_6121740.html
Why use the Doom 3 engine though? The UE3 is the engine of choice right now for developers.
FireFly
04-06-2005, 11:33 AM
Probably because the Doom 3 engine is complete and has been available for a while.
BladeTurbo
04-06-2005, 12:06 PM
Lengis said:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/04/05/news_6121740.html
Why use the Doom 3 engine though? The UE3 is the engine of choice right now for developers.
i foresee an engine switch in their future. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Gamespot has the facts:
In 1995, 3D Realms announced it was working on Prey, an all-new property. Set in a dark future, the third-person PC actioner was ..
However, in 1998, 3D Realms put Prey on indefinite hold
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif
Parkar
04-06-2005, 01:20 PM
Lengis said:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/04/05/news_6121740.html
Why use the Doom 3 engine though? The UE3 is the engine of choice right now for developers.
The game has probably been in development for a few years already and at that time there was no ue3 avalible to developers.
It looks like may will be interseting times for fps lovers. Seams like all the big ones (id, epic, 3dr) will be showing something. only one missing in the list is valve but I guess the may very well be showing something on e3 just havent heard about anything.
Parkar said:
Lengis said:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/04/05/news_6121740.html
Why use the Doom 3 engine though? The UE3 is the engine of choice right now for developers.
The game has probably been in development for a few years already and at that time there was no ue3 avalible to developers.
The first roumor of Prey, being developed at Human Head with Doom 3 tech, was around 2002 or something.
Found it in my Duke/article folder:
Prey Still Alive?
Tantalizing web rumors hint that 3D Realms' failed FPS may still yet walk the Earth.
March 12, 2002 - Prey, its very name is the definition of vaporware, and is even perhaps responsible for a lot of the Duke Nukem nay saying. You see, Prey was to be 3D Realms' grand first-person shooting triumph. What it promised to sport in 1997 was a new engine with better than Unreal looks, Max Payne radiosity lighting, and Red Faction environmental interactivity.
It was only after sometime that the reality of lacking technology sunk in and Prey, along with its Turok reminiscent story of a Native American gone alien abductee superhero was axed. From then, DNF was put in full swing, and has still yet to arrive, leading conspiracy theorist gamers with way too much time on their hands to always expect the worst.
However, in 1999, 3D Realm's George Broussard made it abundantly clear that the title was still in some way, shape, or form being developed, but that it should not be expected anytime soon. Despite this, and all the other hype surrounding the title, it seemed Prey eventually wound up on the dreaded backburner (insert Prey falling prey pun here).
That was then... This is now.
Web rumor (as wonderfully reliable as it is) suggests the game has perhaps risen from the dead by the helping hand of Rune's own Human Head Studios. Further speculation cites the latest in Doom technology to be the likely power behind this prey's second wind.
All parties rumored to be involved are obviously tightlipped (the terribly sad norm in this industry). We'll be back with more details if further information arises substantiating or debunking this rumor.
megarust
04-06-2005, 01:29 PM
thefly said:
Viper Knight said:
This is just a rumour and something we shouldn't take too seriously. Personally, I don't think it's true.
Well, let's just wait to see if megarust shows up dead or not. OK? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
BTW: Megarust....can I have your comic book collection http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I'm taking those to the grave. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
mysteryperfecta
04-06-2005, 04:02 PM
Nice catch, Yenz.
Viper Knight
04-06-2005, 05:04 PM
I got a reply from the guy who wrote the CNN article and he said he doesn't reveal his sources when they request anonymity, which is fair enough I suppose. He assured me that he confirmed this on several fronts before running the story. He also said we'll hear more about it in the coming weeks and that Prey is going to be at E3.
I still have my doubts of course. If it is true then Joe would have been telling us fibs, which I don't think he'd do.
Kristian Joensen
04-06-2005, 05:15 PM
What is a fib ?
Gryph
04-06-2005, 05:27 PM
Kristian Joensen said:
What is a fib ?
A lie.
But yeah, a journalist always protects his sources especially if they request anonymity. But I am more inclined to believe him since he writes for CNN and not your average game site.
Kristian Joensen
04-06-2005, 05:38 PM
Even if what Joe told us was a lie then the truth would be for out benefit.
Kev_Hectic
04-06-2005, 05:43 PM
Viper Knight said:
I got a reply from the guy who wrote the CNN article and he said he doesn't reveal his sources when they request anonymity, which is fair enough I suppose. He assured me that he confirmed this on several fronts before running the story. He also said we'll hear more about it in the coming weeks and that Prey is going to be at E3.
I still have my doubts of course. If it is true then Joe would have been telling us fibs, which I don't think he'd do.
Well this certainly matches up with what Liquid Development were saying about Human Head studio's on their website...
http://www.liquiddevelopment.com/
H@LY S#!T!!
.
That's what you would be saying if we could show you the dozen characters with normal maps that we created for Human Head Studio's undisclosed project. We are incredibly proud of this work, and we are eager to share samples. Check back around E3 2005!
megarust
04-06-2005, 06:44 PM
Kev_Hectic said:
http://www.liquiddevelopment.com/
H@LY S#!T!!
.
That's what you would be saying if we could show you the dozen characters with normal maps that we created for Human Head Studio's undisclosed project. We are incredibly proud of this work, and we are eager to share samples. Check back around E3 2005!
That's exciting. I didn't know Human Head was using them.
Viper Knight
04-06-2005, 07:05 PM
Kristian Joensen said:
Even if what Joe told us was a lie then the truth would be for out benefit.
And not there's. I see what you mean. But still, I don't think 3D Realms is trying to trick us. My stance, based on what 3D Realms has said in the past, is that Prey is not going to be 're-revealed' at E3 this year. If it is, well, maybe I should start expecting a Shadow Warrior sequel. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Ronald McDonald
04-06-2005, 07:44 PM
I now 100% believe it will be Prey or a descendant from Prey http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
I feel like a 6 year old on christmas http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
Ninja
04-06-2005, 09:02 PM
If the using the Doom 3 engine is true, I don't know how well the technology will turn out.
I'd feel just as apprehensive as if they were using UE3, Source or another engine, because I don't know how many modifications or issues they would have in adapting the engine. I don't know how much the Prey concept would have changed, but I would like to see at least some of the environmental interaction and the large outdoor areas seen/promised for Prey back in 1997, 1998. I want to see totally alien worlds/ships as the storyline hinted at, not a generic cookie-cutter game.
Viper Knight
04-06-2005, 10:19 PM
Ronald McDonald said:
I now 100% believe it will be Prey or a descendant from Prey http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
I feel like a 6 year old on christmas http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
A 100%, eh? No chance of doubt there, not even a spec. I predicted Bombshell to be the mystery game in the April fools thread, I said I was 99.99% sure leaving a tiny crum of doubt. But in your case it looks like your completely won over. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
But, what if the mystery game is not Prey? Won't you be dissapointed? My advice is to not be fully set in your beliefs until official word comes from 3D Realms. Yes, we do have very prominent sources namely the CNN article but things are not always as they seem. Maybe the best advice is:
Expect the unexpected! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
/shrugs shoulders
Viper Knight
04-06-2005, 10:29 PM
Ninja said:
If the using the Doom 3 engine is true, I don't know how well the technology will turn out.
Why worry at this stage when it's not even officialy confirmed that there is going to a Prey coming at all?!
I don't like how people get into the technical side of things when the thing we are actually talking about isn't confirmed yet. It's kind of like talking about something that doesn't even exist. That's how I feel about it anyway. It's kinda boring.
/shrugs shoulders again! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
Viper Knight
04-06-2005, 10:37 PM
GryphonKlaw said:
Kristian Joensen said:
What is a fib ?
A lie.
I thought I might say fib instead of lie because I think fib sounds nicer. I don't want to accuse 3D Realms of straight out lying and that they should go to court and get a whippin' but instead more like a bunch of mischievous boys playing tricks on people who love them. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
KaiserSoze
04-06-2005, 11:32 PM
Viper Knight said:
I got a reply from the guy who wrote the CNN article and he said he doesn't reveal his sources when they request anonymity, which is fair enough I suppose. He assured me that he confirmed this on several fronts before running the story. He also said we'll hear more about it in the coming weeks and that Prey is going to be at E3.
I still have my doubts of course. If it is true then Joe would have been telling us fibs, which I don't think he'd do.
good job!
try to email him again and ask him if anyone has been "talking" about duke nukem forever. he may have heard something about that too....
Viper Knight
04-07-2005, 03:02 AM
Why don't you?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Here's he's email address:
chris.morris@turner.com
lonestar
04-15-2005, 05:36 PM
hey, guys! INTERNET ALERT! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif
http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?comments=36606
duoae, any comments on this one? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Rider
04-15-2005, 05:46 PM
OH HAIL!
We have a Prey Forum now! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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