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Viper Knight

04-15-2005, 06:15 PM

Joe3DR said:

Frenkel said:
3D Realms said they first were going to finish Duke Nukem Forever and then decide what will happen to Prey. Seeing this forum I think Duke Nukem Forever is close to finish, before Prey.

Never forget the possibility of us changing our minds. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

So you didn't tell us any fibs then Joe?

/my mind is being put to ease http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bludd

04-15-2005, 06:15 PM

How closely are you (as in 3DR) working with Human Head? Producing the game like you did with Remedy on Max Payne?

Lengis

04-15-2005, 06:16 PM

Damn, I'd never thought I'd live to see the day

Frenkel

04-15-2005, 06:20 PM

John said:

Frenkel said:
3D Realms said they first were going to finish Duke Nukem Forever and then decide what will happen to Prey. Seeing this forum I think Duke Nukem Forever is close to finish, before Prey.

No, they gave the project over to Human Head.

I didn't put http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/goofy.gif atop of my post for nothing, you know http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

Joe Siegler

04-15-2005, 06:20 PM

So you didn't tell us any fibs then Joe?

No, I didn't, actually. I considered the fact that folks would bring up my old quotes when we finally announced the game again, so yeah, I was pretty careful with what I said. I knew more than I was saying obviously, but I didn't actually lie about anything.

Lengis

04-15-2005, 06:27 PM

Now I'm wondering which game will look better, DNF or Prey.

I remember when Doom 3 was first released, George said, "Nothing will touch Doom 3. Nothing" Ofcourse that was like.... 3 years ago.

Viper Knight

04-15-2005, 06:27 PM

Joe3DR said:

So you didn't tell us any fibs then Joe?

No, I didn't, actually. I considered the fact that folks would bring up my old quotes when we finally announced the game again, so yeah, I was pretty careful with what I said. I knew more than I was saying obviously, but I didn't actually lie about anything.

Well you certainly fooled me! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif I might go over your old quotes again and see when they were written, how they fit in, etc. But for now I'd like to say that I'm looking forward to what you guys have in store for us with this game that has been on the simmer for a very long time. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

PS. "Need a clue? Get a good source." http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

8IronBob

04-15-2005, 06:28 PM

That's rather nice to have a third-party developer, but as far as the quality of the developer is concerned, I hope that they will see a 100% seal of 3DR approval on there before it becomes gold. I know you guys are known for quality games, so... My message to HH Studios, never say die, keep the quality high and don't look at games in the past, always focus on the gaming world of tomorrow, and make it with fun realism and entertainment in mind, that's the way to get a game done in today's world of PC games. It's gonna be a phenomenal game when it hits the shelves. There's nothing much more to say than that at this point in time... Just have the great ol' spirit of Duke and Lo Wang in Prey, that's all I can tell ya...

Kev_Hectic

04-15-2005, 06:31 PM

Wooloomooloo said:
Holy shit. I never thought I'd see the day. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Indeed, I thought this game was dead for good. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif \o/

I wonder if any of the things we saw in the old E3 98 (97?) video will still be in this one, though.

Semicharm

04-15-2005, 06:34 PM

George Broussard said:
Human Head Studios is developing Prey.

OMFG!!! I never thought I would hear George say "developing Prey"! It's great to know that DNF is alive and well, but then you release the SW source and now this! With all of this excitement my heart will just explode when he finally says "It's done."

Soilwork

04-15-2005, 06:41 PM

Wow, right on.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

BladeTurbo

04-15-2005, 06:43 PM

i wonder if they are still doing the portal tecnology.

Hudson

04-15-2005, 06:47 PM

KICK ASS

Never, ever thought this would happen.

George Broussard

04-15-2005, 06:48 PM

Hudson said:
KICK ASS

Never, ever thought this would happen.

That's 1. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Crosma

04-15-2005, 06:51 PM

BladeTurbo said:
i wonder if they are still doing the portal tecnology.

Nail + head + BladeTurbo = HIT

Unless this has portal technology a la how Prey was originally intended, I think everyone (i.e. me) will be majorly disappointed no matter how the rest of the game turns out.

On the flip-side, that's a good thing. If it does have portals a la old-Prey, then it's going to be very difficult for it to be anything less than the most innovative FPS since Catacombs 3-D.

It's going to be interesting to see how this turns out.

Bludd

04-15-2005, 06:53 PM

Indeed. Crosmar is right. Also, they had destructible enviroments too. I wonder if that's in the new Pray.

Geir

04-15-2005, 06:54 PM

the prey website gave us a hint for a secret on the site. ("monkeys are only found in the Philippians" focus behind that and you will see an arrow)

CAN YOU HELP ME?

Bludd

04-15-2005, 07:02 PM

The only URL in cleartext inside the swf file is http://www.altavista.com/_blank

Ronald McDonald

04-15-2005, 07:05 PM

OMGWTF!!!!!!

*orgasm* http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

I died and gone to heaven...please don't let this game suck http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif for I was majorly dissappointed about D3 and HL2 and I can't live with another dissappointement http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

@ George:

1. Are there any significant changes made on the D3-engine?

2. Will the release be as short after the announcement as what happened to MP2 or could it take another year or so?

Roger

04-15-2005, 07:12 PM

Holy f*ck.

supermeerkat

04-15-2005, 07:13 PM

F*ck me! This is a surprise!

George B and the rest of 3DR, you be da men!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Kev_Hectic

04-15-2005, 07:23 PM

Bludd said:
Indeed. Crosmar is right. Also, they had destructible enviroments too. I wonder if that's in the new Pray.

I was looking around at some of the other gaming news sites, and found this interesting quote from George at Shack News,

http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?comments=36606

"Doom3 is a pretty hot engine. And Portal tech/gameplay can be put into most any engine."

It sounds like the portal stuff is in, but I wonder to what extent?

supermeerkat

04-15-2005, 07:29 PM

Kev_Hectic said:

"Doom3 is a pretty hot engine. And Portal tech/gameplay can be put into most any engine."

It sounds like the portal stuff is in, but I wonder to what extent?

Would someone be so kind as to remind me what the portal tech stuff is?

Soilwork

04-15-2005, 07:30 PM

Alright, what is this portal tech.?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ronald McDonald

04-15-2005, 07:30 PM

Think "Event Horizon".

supermeerkat

04-15-2005, 07:34 PM

Ronald McDonald said:
Think "Event Horizon".

An artificial black hole that creates portals to hell?

I'm too drunk to think properly at the moment. Please could you just tell us? Enquiring minds want to know.

Bludd

04-15-2005, 07:35 PM

Here's a low quality interview on the old Prey. It explains portals and it's very neat. In 1996/97, this was jaw-droppingly cool! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif (And IMHO, some of it still is!)

<font color="orange"> Link removed, get K_Hectic's file instead. It's better quality. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

</font>

Kev_Hectic

04-15-2005, 07:37 PM

Soilwork said:
Alright, what is this portal tech.?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'll post this again, it gives a good idea of what they were doing with portal tech back then,

http://www.imhz.com/videos/Prey_E3_1998_IMHz.avi

DAMN YOU BLUDD! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

Bludd

04-15-2005, 07:39 PM

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif You win though, because quality is paramount. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Kev_Hectic

04-15-2005, 07:40 PM

Yay \o/

Soilwork

04-15-2005, 07:43 PM

Thanks.

Soilwork

04-15-2005, 07:55 PM

Prey + Meqon * Destructable environments = piece'a cake!

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Ronald McDonald

04-15-2005, 08:01 PM

supermeerkat said:

Ronald McDonald said:
Think "Event Horizon".

An artificial black hole that creates portals to hell?

I'm too drunk to think properly at the moment. Please could you just tell us? Enquiring minds want to know.

I can't really go into the tech area, because I don't know shit.
I do know the difference between "common-game-portals" and the "Prey-portals".

Prey-portals have supposedly zero-density and can connect ifinte areas together (I geuss).
Also Prey-portals don't need fixed positions or have to be built in the map from the start. They can be created on-the-fly like with an item in your inventory on any spot.

Atleast this was back then, don't know what's up now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Major Lag

04-15-2005, 08:21 PM

Denz said:
Is prey a new game? Im a bit lost here... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Pray was a another game in development from 3DR years ago thought it was dead ... thought wrong it seems

http://atlas.secs.oakland.edu/~lcmatero/prey/history.htm

GOK

04-15-2005, 08:32 PM

George Broussard said:

Hudson said:
KICK ASS

Never, ever thought this would happen.

That's 1. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Love ya George..... but I'm not having your baby.

Major Lag

04-15-2005, 08:40 PM

ADoomedMarine said:
mwhaha http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Oh and for those who didn't know:
http://www.prey.com/

Hint: wait abit http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

If you look in the source of that web site and look at
<meta name="description" content=

your find something written in binary. any body able to read binary http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Bludd

04-15-2005, 08:43 PM

Yes, this has been "decrypted" already and it's all over the web.

lonestar

04-15-2005, 08:50 PM

even the forum is already up! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

who would have thought this. that's pretty much unbelievable.

well.. thanks to you guys at 3drealms to make sure that this game is going to kick again! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

just imagine, holding prey *and* dnf in our hands in the not too far future. it's not going to happen, anyway, but it would be the best thing ever.

Simon Charles

04-15-2005, 08:54 PM

1) Why did Prey initially get scrapped?

2) What can Prey do now it couldn't do before, justifying its rebirth?

3a) What does Prey have that other games don't?

3b) Why should I care about Prey?

Joe Siegler

04-15-2005, 08:55 PM

Simon Charles said:
1) Why did Prey initially get scrapped?

2) What can Prey do now it couldn't do before, justifying its rebirth?

3a) What does Prey have that other games don't?

3b) Why should I care about Prey?

Check the translation of the binary code hidden message. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Warmaster129

04-15-2005, 08:56 PM

Simon Charles said:
1) Why did Prey initially get scrapped?

2) What can Prey do now it couldn't do before, justifying its rebirth?

3a) What does Prey have that other games don't?

3b) Why should I care about Prey?

All of that answered here: http://www.imhz.com/videos/Prey_E3_1998_IMHz.avi

CorpusC

04-15-2005, 09:00 PM

Joe3DR said:

Frenkel said:
3D Realms said they first were going to finish Duke Nukem Forever and then decide what will happen to Prey. Seeing this forum I think Duke Nukem Forever is close to finish, before Prey.

Never forget the possibility of us changing our minds. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

SHADOW WARRIOR 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHADOW WARRIOR 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHADOW WARRIOR 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHADOW WARRIOR 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHADOW WARRIOR 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

George Broussard

04-15-2005, 09:01 PM

Simon Charles said:
1) Why did Prey initially get scrapped?

The tech was ever really stable or finished.

2) What can Prey do now it couldn't do before, justifying its rebirth?

What justifies doing a new Wolf, Quake or Doom game? It's just a new game. Hopefully it will be cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

3a) What does Prey have that other games don't?

These are loaded questions that you can rightfully ask oc any game ever made.

3b) Why should I care about Prey?

These are loaded questions that you can rightfully ask oc any game ever made.

Lengis

04-15-2005, 09:14 PM

George Broussard said:

Simon Charles said:
1) Why did Prey initially get scrapped?

The tech was ever really stable or finished.

Actually, it was because the development group was divided, and you needed to concentrate all your resources on DNF because it was taking longer than expected.

2) What can Prey do now it couldn't do before, justifying its rebirth?

What justifies doing a new Wolf, Quake or Doom game? It's just a new game. Hopefully it will be cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

You are self funding DNF, and are running out of cash, and you need something to help bring in a profit.

It's not hard to figure out what's REALLY going on

Roger

04-15-2005, 09:17 PM

I didn't know Lengis was on the team.

Lengis

04-15-2005, 09:18 PM

Deductive logic.

Parkar

04-15-2005, 09:19 PM

Waiting for kasier to show up with his boxers http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bludd

04-15-2005, 09:20 PM

Lengis = Sherlock Holmes

Hudson

04-15-2005, 09:21 PM

Lengis said:

George Broussard said:

Simon Charles said:
1) Why did Prey initially get scrapped?

The tech was ever really stable or finished.

Actually, it was because the development group was divided, and you needed to concentrate all your resources on DNF because it was taking longer than expected.

2) What can Prey do now it couldn't do before, justifying its rebirth?

What justifies doing a new Wolf, Quake or Doom game? It's just a new game. Hopefully it will be cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

You are self funding DNF, and are running out of cash, and you need something to help bring in a profit.

It's not hard to figure out what's REALLY going on

You really have no idea what the hell you are talking about do you?

SpaceCow

04-15-2005, 09:21 PM

Lengis said:
Deductive logic.

Well thank god we have you around to tell us these things.

Human Heads involvement is an old thing - a rumor that was reported aaaages ago on Evil Avatar. Then it was dubious because EA is a tool and doesn't know what the *****. But now it has been confirmed, years later. So I daresay, Lengis, that this is not some furtive moneygrab, but something that they've been thinking of doing for a long long time.

Hudson

04-15-2005, 09:23 PM

Lengis said:
Deductive logic.

i.e., pure bullshit?

Mblackwell

04-15-2005, 09:23 PM

OMFGPREY!

Aegeri

04-15-2005, 09:24 PM

Bludd said:
Lengis = Sherlock Holmes

But who's watson!?

Important questions are still left, like where did 3DR get money for pizza while they are living off the street and where is the jade monkey?

Simon Charles

04-15-2005, 09:30 PM

I still don't get what the fuss is all about. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Aegeri

04-15-2005, 09:33 PM

Simon Charles said:
I still don't get what the fuss is all about. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Why it's elementary my dear watson!

Yatta

04-15-2005, 09:36 PM

The teaser site is excellent.

Lengis

04-15-2005, 09:40 PM

Ah yes, George's personal entourage is always here to protect him.

If you don't believe me, look no further than George's words alone,

We had too few programmers early on.

Maybe because...... half of them were working on Prey? I think it makes sense to ax the project to consolidate your resources.

And honestly, do you think money grows on trees in Texas? Where is all this money comming from that allows them to fund DNF for 9 years? They already sold the rights to Max Payne, and they can only survive on console duke royalties for so long. I'm not saying they are milking a cash cow, but the true intentions seem pretty obvious.

Frank the Tank

04-15-2005, 09:41 PM

Quick question before I disappear into eternity again....

Did Turok have any influence on this game at all?? I know the original was released in 1997...so it kinda fits the timeline

SpaceCow

04-15-2005, 09:48 PM

Lengis said:I'm not saying they are milking a cash cow, but the true intentions seem pretty obvious.

Wait, are you saying that 3D Realms is bent on making money by releasing interactive entertainment computer software?

What an insidious plot they have! THE GALL OF THEM!

Hudson

04-15-2005, 09:49 PM

Lengis said:
Ah yes, George's personal entourage is always here to protect him.

If you don't believe me, look no further than George's words alone,

We had too few programmers early on.

Maybe because...... half of them were working on Prey? I think it makes sense to ax the project to consolidate your resources.

And honestly, do you think money grows on trees in Texas? Where is all this money comming from that allows them to fund DNF for 9 years? They already sold the rights to Max Payne, and they can only survive on console duke royalties for so long. I'm not saying they are milking a cash cow, but the true intentions seem pretty obvious.

I'm not protecting anyone, however I do believe that you are talking out your ass.

If they were only interested in making money, they would most likely have released a half-baked DNF by now (and also a half-baked Duke Nukem movie)

Lengis

04-15-2005, 09:58 PM

SpaceCow said:

Lengis said:I'm not saying they are milking a cash cow, but the true intentions seem pretty obvious.

Wait, are you saying that 3D Realms is bent on making money by releasing interactive entertainment computer software?

What an insidious plot they have! THE GALL OF THEM!

When did I say it was bad? I simply clarified George's response, because he didn't give the honest answer.

Aegeri

04-15-2005, 10:02 PM

Lengis said:

SpaceCow said:

Lengis said:I'm not saying they are milking a cash cow, but the true intentions seem pretty obvious.

Wait, are you saying that 3D Realms is bent on making money by releasing interactive entertainment computer software?

What an insidious plot they have! THE GALL OF THEM!

When did I say it was bad? I simply clarified George's response, because he didn't give the honest answer.

Lengis, keeping George honest since that time he misinterpreted what George was REALLY saying about sausages in buns, and it wasn't the kind of bun Lengis had in mind.

Bludd

04-15-2005, 10:04 PM

How can you clarify his response when you don't have all the information he has? You're just assuming and making stuff up.

mr black

04-15-2005, 10:05 PM

Joe3DR said:

Check the translation of the binary code hidden message. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

done.

"Hiding things in the source code is so 20th century. If you're looking for more info: PC Gamer. June issue. Worldwide debut."

Bludd

04-15-2005, 10:10 PM

Please edit your post. It's screwing up the formatting.

John

04-15-2005, 10:24 PM

Indeed. What the Bluddmiester said.

NutWrench

04-15-2005, 10:37 PM

Awesome! I never thought I'd see this, either. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

jolerwolf

04-15-2005, 11:20 PM

First time poster, long time visitor.

I'm excited to see if/how they've implemented the portal technology into the Doom 3 engine. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Gryph

04-15-2005, 11:47 PM

Definitely awesome. Now let's hope the game is good. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Spooger

04-16-2005, 12:07 AM

This is kick-ass material http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Good luck to Human Head on this project -- can't wait to see the screens.

Now...about Duke...

smattbac

04-16-2005, 01:17 AM

Very nice! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I hope the portal tech has carried over to the Doom3 engine. It seemed like it could create some very nice gameplay.

KaiserSoze

04-16-2005, 02:01 AM

i hope my boxers taste good. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

awesome news though!

edit: talequeh is in oklahoma. i'm digging around the teaser site a bit.

coming-soon.html
comingsoon.html

tons of cyptic stuff on the teaser site.....get working guys!

George Broussard

04-16-2005, 02:29 AM

Lengis,

Trust me when I say that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

Needle

04-16-2005, 02:41 AM

George Broussard said:
Lengis,

Trust me when I say that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

So money DOES grow on trees in Texas?

I'll take the next plane.

KaiserSoze

04-16-2005, 02:48 AM

prey screenshots please kthxgbye. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

George Broussard

04-16-2005, 02:58 AM

KaiserSoze said:
prey screenshots please kthxgbye. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

Duoae

04-16-2005, 03:00 AM

George Broussard said:

KaiserSoze said:
prey screenshots please kthxgbye. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

Is that US, UK, Korea? Where... WHERE!!!

*panting*....

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

KaiserSoze

04-16-2005, 03:02 AM

George Broussard said:

KaiserSoze said:
prey screenshots please kthxgbye. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

cool! thanks, will keep my eye out.

George Broussard

04-16-2005, 03:02 AM

Duoae said:

George Broussard said:

KaiserSoze said:
prey screenshots please kthxgbye. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

Is that US, UK, Korea? Where... WHERE!!!

*panting*....

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I believe subscribers get it "soon" and retail stores get it in early May (in the US)? Don't quote me on that, but I think it's pretty close.

IHerman

04-16-2005, 03:13 AM

I'll have to get back to you people as soon as I can find my jaw which just dropped to the ground.

Duoae

04-16-2005, 03:14 AM

George Broussard said:

Duoae said:

George Broussard said:

KaiserSoze said:
prey screenshots please kthxgbye. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

Is that US, UK, Korea? Where... WHERE!!!

*panting*....

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I believe subscribers get it "soon" and retail stores get it in early May (in the US)? Don't quote me on that, but I think it's pretty close.

I'm just worried that over here in the UK that it won't be in the same edition as i think they're technically separate companies? No?

Eddy Willson

04-16-2005, 03:15 AM

Well f*ck me! It happened!

Lengis

04-16-2005, 03:22 AM

George Broussard said:
Lengis,

Trust me when I say that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

I already talked to Wiederhold about this. I'm now more sure than ever, that I'm right.

George Broussard

04-16-2005, 03:25 AM

Well I was there and lived through it and can tell you that your theories and suppositions are false. I've no reason to lie, but you are free to believe what you want http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Lengis

04-16-2005, 03:27 AM

George Broussard said:
Well I was there and lived through it and can tell you that your theories and suppositions are false. I've no reason to lie, but you are free to believe what you want http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No reason to lie, but you can still leave out the truth, and true intentions. Why? Public relations.

Duoae

04-16-2005, 03:30 AM

George Broussard

04-16-2005, 03:33 AM

Lengis said:

George Broussard said:
Well I was there and lived through it and can tell you that your theories and suppositions are false. I've no reason to lie, but you are free to believe what you want http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No reason to lie, but you can still leave out the truth, and true intentions. Why? Public relations.

This is video games - not politics. I think you put too much emphasis on people caring about a game or what happened to it.

- Prey was cancelled because it never came together. It had nothing to do with DNF. Both teams were separate.

- Why would anyone cancel a game, just to add programmers to another project? That would be stupid. You would simply hire more people.

- We started Prey to make money to fund DNF? That would be some mighty good planning since Prey started late 2001 or so, and we thought DNF would be done in 2001/2002, but it slipped and slipped.

No, there are no sinister motives here or secret agendas. We're just whacky dork developers that make mistakes like anyone else http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

But people like to interpret events in interesting ways. Really, we're quite boring and not nearly as devious as people make us out to be.

KaiserSoze

04-16-2005, 03:34 AM

i really have no idea what the problem is?

the fact dnf hasn't been shown yet and instead the focus is on prey now? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

keep the faith.

yossa

04-16-2005, 03:37 AM

George Broussard said:

KaiserSoze said:
prey screenshots please kthxgbye. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

June PC Gamer. 2-3 weeks?

George, please release the real screenshots not too long afterwards (I'm thinking 2 hours max http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) - You know, just like you did in 1999...

pjohnsonjr

04-16-2005, 03:37 AM

Duoae said:

Lengis said:

George Broussard said:
Well I was there and lived through it and can tell you that your theories and suppositions are false. I've no reason to lie, but you are free to believe what you want http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No reason to lie, but you can still leave out the truth, and true intentions. Why? Public relations.

Leave them alone. They're just trying to make a game. This isn't some kind of reality TV show......

thank you Duoae, some sound reasoning...

George Broussard said:
This is video games - not politics. I think you put too much emphasis on people caring about a game or what happened to it.

- Prey was cancelled because it never came together. It had nothing to do with DNF. Both teams were separate.

- Why would anyone cancel a game, just to add programmers to another project? That would be stupid. You would simply hire more people.

- We started Prey to make money to fund DNF? That would be some mighty good planning since Prey started late 2001 or so, and we thought DNF would be done in 2001/2002, but it slipped and slipped.

No, there are no sinister motives here or secret agendas. We're just whacky dork developers that make mistakes like anyone else http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

But people like to interpret events in interesting ways. Really, we're quite boring and not nearly as devious as people make us out to be.

George has no reason to bullsh*t us...

If anything, this is proving that 3DRealms is resolved to getting things they said they would do out the door and into our hands, and it's approaching faster than ever.

IHerman

04-16-2005, 03:43 AM

Tonight I'm going to drink a lot of beer to celebrate this!

I can't wait to see some screens. The website is really cool, even though I immediately closed it the first time. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Prey is coming, and I'll be there to get it.

Lengis

04-16-2005, 03:43 AM

- Prey was cancelled because it never came together. It had nothing to do with DNF. Both teams were separate.

But yet, almost everyone at 3DR was working on Prey at the time, and only 2 programmers were working on DNF. Charlie himself told me this. That sounds like stretching out your resources to me

- Why would anyone cancel a game, just to add programmers to another project? That would be stupid. You would simply hire more people.

Which costs more money. The budget is stretched out as it is. You have to make layoffs to compensate for the new employees.

- We started Prey to make money to fund DNF? That would be some mighty good planning since Prey started late 2001 or so, and we thought DNF would be done in 2001/2002, but it slipped and slipped.

Is that hard to do? After Doom 3 was announced, your very reaction was, "nothing will touch Doom 3. Nothing" or something to that effect. You were impressed, and licensed the engine because you knew it would generate a profit in the long run, helping to cover the costs that DNF's development was generating.

No, there are no sinister motives here or secret agendas. We're just whacky dork developers that make mistakes like anyone else http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

But people like to interpret events in interesting ways. Really, we're quite boring and not nearly as devious as people make us out to be.

I never said any of your actions were sinister or devious. I simply said that you don't reveal your true intentions for public relations purposes.

IHerman

04-16-2005, 03:47 AM

Uh-oh, people start quoting again...

Really I couldn't care less. A new cool game is coming.

KaiserSoze

04-16-2005, 03:50 AM

lengis-no offense but really, so what? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

did 3dr promise any of us dnf?

i really can't see how you're trying to debate george about game development.

i want dnf as badly as anyone here but realize i'll get it when it's good and ready.

it just seems like you have a case of sour grapes against 3dr when none of this really affects any of us as fans. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

KaiserSoze

04-16-2005, 03:51 AM

IHerman said:
Uh-oh, people start quoting again...

Really I couldn't care less. A new cool game is coming.

quoted for 2 points of truth. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

wieder

04-16-2005, 03:58 AM

But yet, almost everyone at 3DR was working on Prey at the time, and only 2 programmers were working on DNF. Charlie himself told me this. That sounds like stretching out your resources to me

Don't ever quote me again if you are going to do it wrong. I gave you a chance to have an open chat about this stuff and you blew it then... and now you post comments wrong. Nice one bud.

Lengis

04-16-2005, 04:00 AM

Isn't that what you said? 2 programmers working on DNF, and the rest were focused on Prey? Correct me if I'm wrong, by all means.

George Broussard

04-16-2005, 04:06 AM

This really will be my last message on this, as I really have no reason to correct you or defend anything.

But yet, almost everyone at 3DR was working on Prey at the time, and only 2 programmers were working on DNF. Charlie himself told me this. That sounds like stretching out your resources to me

Charlie is mistaken (he wasn't here at the time and may have misunderstood some history). The entire Duke 3D team rolled into the Duke 3D exp pack, then some worked on very early DNF and some finished Shadow Warrior. Prey was entirely separate with it's own team of people. A couple of people that weren't needed for Shadow Warrior or the Duke expansion helped on Prey for maybe a couple of months.

I never said any of your actions were sinister or devious. I simply said that you don't reveal your true intentions for public relations purposes.

Not true.

Bottom line...every theory you put forth in this thread is false. Except for maybe...we make games to profit by them?

George Broussard

04-16-2005, 04:09 AM

Lengis said:
Isn't that what you said? 2 programmers working on DNF, and the rest were focused on Prey? Correct me if I'm wrong, by all means.

Yes, two on the DNF team (as always), and the rest were on the Prey team (as always), but they were always separate groups of people on different games. Maybe you take things to literally?

Anyway, let's just stop discussing this now.

Bludd

04-16-2005, 04:09 AM

Stop being a jerk, Lengis. It's really annoying.

Lengis

04-16-2005, 04:16 AM

This really will be my last message on this, as I really have no reason to correct you or defend anything.

Ah yes, the old "I'm gona end this conversation, but I'm gona get the last word in damnit!" line.

Charlie is mistaken (he wasn't here at the time and may have misunderstood some history). The entire Duke 3D team rolled into the Duke 3D exp pack, then some worked on very early DNF and some finished Shadow Warrior. Prey was entirely separate with it's own team of people. A couple of people that weren't needed for Shadow Warrior or the Duke expansion helped on Prey for maybe a couple of months.

He said the 2 programmers for DNF happened durring the Quake 2 engine period. Not sure if this is true or false.

Bottom line...every theory you put forth in this thread is false. Except for maybe...we make games to profit by them?

Which.... would be the point? If self funding your own games was so easy everyone would be doing it. Why bother with publishers at all? It just doesn't add up.

pjohnsonjr

04-16-2005, 04:25 AM

Lengis...

You're flogging the dead horse here. Being combative with the guys who make the game on the forum on their site isn't a wise choice. It's almost like you're wanting to challenge them, which is a bad move, especially if you're not in the game industry or work for them... You keep going as well, just end it already, you're annoying others. As a fan I'm here to talk about 3D Realms and their games, not about some conspiracy theory you cooked up trying to make them look bad. If you're gonna do it, keep it to yourself or discuss it behind close doors...

This is not a court of law, this is a friendly forum, we're not putting them on trial here.

klatch

04-16-2005, 04:32 AM

Lengis said:
Deductive logic.

And to think 3DR-staff time is consumed because someone can't differentiate between assumption and deduction. Let it go already.

Anyway, nice news. Prey was my second guess for the "unveiling" thanks to some excellent finds of several 3DR board members, though I had marked DNF as the more probable case due to misinterpretation on my part.

SyntaxN

04-16-2005, 04:32 AM

I would say that it isn´t interesting anymore how many programmers Prey or DNF had in past!
For now, focus is on Prey, DNF is WID http://www.chrissyx.com/forum/images/smilies/25.gif

motionblur

04-16-2005, 04:36 AM

Lengis said:[...]

What the f'in hell is up with you? You are a smatrass about everything and caim to know more than everyone else even when they tell you that it's annoying. Do you think you are some kind of avenger of the truth of something?
Pull yourself together and shut up. Even if your theories should be true - no one cares!! As long as 3DRealms have the money to go on developing games I really could not care less how they do it or why. It's their business and I am pretty sure they know what they are doing.

Gawd. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/brickwall.gif

Lengis

04-16-2005, 04:38 AM

Ah, my fans have arrived

StarBegotten

04-16-2005, 05:07 AM

Hang on....this section wasnt here last time I checked.............

OMFG!!!!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

(ahem)

ColdCat

04-16-2005, 05:10 AM

That is very sad, Lengis.

It is 3D Realms right to make money with games and make PR the way they want. Who cares if they use Prey to fund DNF or not. Everything will be good as long as Prey offers good gaming experience and justifies the price.

3D Realms doesn't need to defend any of their actions.

Ronald McDonald

04-16-2005, 05:21 AM

Did any of the 3DR team abused you sexually http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

That would justify your behaviour.....

zakath

04-16-2005, 05:24 AM

YYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

vivftp

04-16-2005, 05:57 AM

Lengis said:
Ah, my fans have arrived

Sweet Jebus you're an annoying little nothing, aren't you?

1) It's their business, not yours

2) One of the AMAZING sources you "referenced" has come in here and shot you down for wrongfully quoting them.

3) You have one of the BLOODY owners of the company taking their time to come on this board during what should be an exciting for them, and what does he see? Some dildo ragging on him for things that don't matter (TO ANYONE), and using a LOT of guesswork/incorrect references to boot!

I mean holy crap man, I know many mods on other boards who would've punted your ass by now, but I guess 3DR are being cooler about it.

But anyways, WOOHOO! PREY IS COMMING!

I've spent years spreading the word of 3DR to the uninformed by means of DNF. But now, at this glorious time we have the arrival of 3DRs other so-called "vapouware" title - PREY! This is a giant, collective slap to the faces of all the people who ragged on them all these years (I'd be relishing in it)... and if the game turns out to be upto 3DRs usual standards, then it'll be another, even bigger slap!

And of course, the final, grande finally of slaps will be when DNF arrives http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

So... the magazines with screenshots should be reaching people in the not too distant future, eh... interesting

trackit

04-16-2005, 06:09 AM

@lengis

who cares what they will do with the money from Prey?? Actually it would be good if they use it for developing DNF... What would you like? if they spend it on pizza and pr0n? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

And if you say that they just throw us some shabby game "Prey" just to get money out of that?? think about what you say.... what would be worse PR for them than ppl will see Prey and say, "damn it sucks... 3DR sucks... i'm not interested in DNF anymore... if they make such a lousy games..."

So i really dont think that they just throw some quicky to get cash.

Acid

04-16-2005, 06:31 AM

i still want DNF more then prey..wasnt interested much in prey to begin with..ONLY DUKE! so i take it this was unveiling of there next game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif , was hoping for DNF.

KaiserSoze

04-16-2005, 06:55 AM

Acid said:
i still want DNF more then prey..wasnt interested much in prey to begin with..ONLY DUKE! so i take it this was unveiling of there next game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif , was hoping for DNF.

i wouldn't worry. dnf is coming. he's closer than ever. this year is shaping up to be awesome for 3dr fans, that's for sure. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

cheeseboy

04-16-2005, 07:19 AM

This news just made my day.
3D Realms, Human Head, I salute thee.

Simon Charles

04-16-2005, 07:30 AM

George, you said many times DNF's hype/buildup/info would start 3-6 months before release and we would "know about it". Is Prey following the same 'philosophy' and with the upcoming buildup, we can therefore expect it early 2006?

KaiserSoze

04-16-2005, 07:45 AM

Simon Charles said:
George, you said many times DNF's hype/buildup/info would start 3-6 months before release and we would "know about it". Is Prey following the same 'philosophy' and with the upcoming buildup, we can therefore expect it early 2006?

november or december 2005 for prey i'd guess. (6 month hype)

dnf hopefully next month also or august for a january 2006 release. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

FireFly

04-16-2005, 08:01 AM

Lengis said:
Which costs more money. The budget is stretched out as it is. You have to make layoffs to compensate for the new employees.

The problems with Prey occurred long before 3DR decided to can the project. People started leaving in late 1998 (including the main engine programmer William Scarboro). Was this anything to do with cost cutting? Nope, Scarboro made it clear that it was his decision, and said later that he never wanted to work on Portal engines again, that there were fundamental problems with them, and that the whole thing was one big mistake.

Even if you want to continue your speculation, you have to accept that there were major failings with the portal technology and it probably was never going to be viable for a shipping product. At which point, development costs become irrelevant anyway.

But in 1999, they tried to resurrect the project under the supervision of the newly hired Corrinne Yu. If costs were an issue why did they do this? Why didn't they just scrap the project?

Is that hard to do? After Doom 3 was announced, your very reaction was, "nothing will touch Doom 3. Nothing" or something to that effect. You were impressed, and licensed the engine because you knew it would generate a profit in the long run, helping to cover the costs that DNF's development was generating.

DNF will cover the costs, otherwise they wouldn't be making it. Games are never so expensive that the profits generated can't cover the development costs, unless of course they're flops. Valve spent $40 million on Half-Life 2, and yet it's still a viable product.

Following the 6 months hype rule George set out, Prey will probably be released in early 2006. DNF cannot be released later than 2007 if 3DR expect it to be competitive, so that's what, an extra 6+ months of development that you're saying Prey is supposed to be financing. I find it hard to believe that 3DR can't spare an extra few hundred thousand dollars.

Which.... would be the point? If self funding your own games was so easy everyone would be doing it. Why bother with publishers at all? It just doesn't add up.

Valve, id, Epic, Remedy, Lionhead, Bioware. There aren't many more because to self-fund you need a string of successful titles. Most start up devs have no money at all to finance such titles, so they need publisher funding. It's a catch 22 type situation. And of course, publishers just won't let go. Even Valve stands to lose its IP to Vivendi.

SyntaxN

04-16-2005, 08:27 AM

The problems with Prey occurred long before 3DR decided to can the project. People started leaving in late 1998 (including the main engine programmer William Scarboro). Was this anything to do with cost cutting? Nope, Scarboro made it clear that it was his decision, and said later that he never wanted to work on Portal engines again, that there were fundamental problems with them, and that the whole thing was one big mistake.

I thought Red Faction is using a portal engine...
John Carmacks opinion on producing a portal engine would be interesting imo, he is the man who makes the revolutions so he should know what´s possible at all http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Following the 6 months hype rule George set out, Prey will probably be released in early 2006. DNF cannot be released later than 2007 if 3DR expect it to be competitive, so that's what, an extra 6+ months of development that you're saying Prey is supposed to be financing. I find it hard to believe that 3DR can't spare an extra few hundred thousand dollars.

We will get a DNF trailer+screens on the Prey CDs/DVD, and everything is covered with DNF advertisments *coming WID but soon* http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

Valve, id, Epic, Remedy, Lionhead, Bioware. There aren't many more because to self-fund you need a string of successful titles. Most start up devs have no money at all to finance such titles, so they need publisher funding. It's a catch 22 type situation. And of course, publishers just won't let go. Even Valve stands to lose its IP to Vivendi.

It don´t seems that 3dr is one of the uber money making companys, otherwise they would have given up DNF a long time ago http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ronald McDonald

04-16-2005, 08:32 AM

We will get a DNF trailer+screens on the Prey CDs/DVD, and everything is covered with DNF advertisments *coming WID but soon* http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

This seems very possible http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Soilwork

04-16-2005, 08:38 AM

I'm giddy with excitement, I love this time of the year..

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 08:41 AM

SyntaxN said:
We will get a DNF trailer+screens on the Prey CDs/DVD, and everything is covered with DNF advertisments *coming WID but soon* http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

This would be a relly good idea, if and only if they are ready to show DNF by that time.

Soilwork

04-16-2005, 08:44 AM

Hey George, will Prey be at E3?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

With a possible DNF teaser?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Kev_Hectic

04-16-2005, 08:47 AM

^ I hope so http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ..

Even though the second one seems pretty unlikely to me.

Rider

04-16-2005, 09:06 AM

3DR + E3 = unlikely

IMO http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

theRobot

04-16-2005, 09:26 AM

Kev_Hectic said:

I'll post this again, it gives a good idea of what they were doing with portal tech back then,

http://www.imhz.com/videos/Prey_E3_1998_IMHz.avi

DAMN YOU BLUDD! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

No! DAMN YOU KEV... Why'd I have to go and download that... Now I want that demo that Paul(hehe.. my name http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) was playing with, it looked so awesome.

He noted tech was 80% done, that's not bad for a year. I never heard of the game Prey until a couple weeks ago, because before I thought it was a game 3DR scraped because they didn't care for it(like they only had -20% tech complete), so they stopped messing with it. Actually getting to watch the videos I feel sad now, because for '98 it was doing what people were freaking out about in '01(AKA, the game was years ahead of it's time), on a machine I got rid of in '99! (The game was REALLY ahead of it's time)

So what'sit george? Can I like, borrow it for a little while? Blow some walls up maybe? Make stupid little maps for you and the gang to blow stuff up in?
Cause in laymens terms, he's right, people just wanna run around with guns and blow stuff up!

Gryph

04-16-2005, 09:28 AM

Soilwork said:
I'm giddy with excitement, I love this time of the year..

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I know, I really am. I've never been this excited for a game in a while. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

FireFly

04-16-2005, 09:36 AM

SyntaxN said:
I thought Red Faction is using a portal engine...
John Carmacks opinion on producing a portal engine would be interesting imo, he is the man who makes the revolutions so he should know what´s possible at all http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

It was, but it wasn't as ambitious as Prey's which tried to model a fourth dimension.

Carmack said this about Prey:

Like Prey, there's a lesson to be learned, something a lot of companies don't really ever learn. You hear it from the fan base a lot. "Do it right. We'll still be here. We'll wait," and it's tempting to just let things slip. But that's really not OK. If you're doing something cutting edge, you're making fundamental decisions about your architecture, and if you let it slide for a year or two, then it's just not the right decision anymore. Even if you pile on all these extras, it's not optimal. It's not targeted at what you're doing. So I have some concerns about Prey coming out this late.

Ronald McDonald

04-16-2005, 09:43 AM

When? 1999?

FireFly

04-16-2005, 09:48 AM

Actually it seems to be dated in 1997. Perhaps that makes what he's saying a little extreme.

lonestar

04-16-2005, 09:56 AM

carmack said this, when prey gone through its first development cycle.

hh is seeking lately:
http://www.humanhead.com/

in the staff list, i found this:

Randy Redetzke - Artist

Though nobody knows who really hides behind the facepaint of Rando the Magnificent, balloon animal tamer extraodinaire, ever since Randy Redetzke came to Human Head from Madison Area Technical College he's been pushing to make a "First Person Juggler". Coincidence?

Theseus314

04-16-2005, 10:27 AM

Lengis, when you get emails that say something like:

This message and any attachment(s) is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. If you are not the intended addressee(s), you are hereby notified that any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.

at the bottom, you gotta realise that it's not just placed there for comedy value. That you only look like a tit if you ignore that shit. Whether you are correct or wrong isn't important.

KaiserSoze

04-16-2005, 10:33 AM

Rider said:
3DR + E3 = unlikely

IMO http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

no but take 2 plus e3=prey.

i thought everyone pretty much knew prey was going to be at e3?

3dr aren't going. whether they decide to give take 2 or other vendors possible dnf material to display at e3=unknown.

Lengis

04-16-2005, 10:42 AM

The fanboys are back in town, the fanboys are back in tooooooooooooooooown!!!!!!!

I just find it funny that you guys say I'm being annoying, but the only ones flaming here, are you guys.

crunchy superman

04-16-2005, 10:52 AM

This is fantastic! George actually comes out and says "Prey is being developed"!! Never thought I'd see that again! I got a zillion questions that I know would never be answered at this point, so I'll hold off for now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Tall thanks to 3DR & Human Head for keeping this alive!

p.s. Now Goerge, since you're in good with HH, see if you can't start whispering in their ears . . .Rune2 . . . .Rune2 . . . Rune2 . .

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 10:54 AM

Lengis said:
The fanboys are back in town, the fanboys are back in tooooooooooooooooown!!!!!!!

I just find it funny that you guys say I'm being annoying, but the only ones flaming here, are you guys.

How are they flaming ?

IHerman

04-16-2005, 10:58 AM

If people are going to keep quoting Lengis this retarded conversation is NEVER going to end, and this thread will die today.

If both party's keep wanting to have the last word...

So STOP IT, OK. The thread is already messed up bad enough.

EDIT - Who am I kidding. Maybe ADoomedMarine can ask Joe to delete/lock the thread. Because my post isn't going to change anything anyway. You people are too stubborn NOT to keep responding to each others retarded accusations and statements.

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 11:26 AM

I take it that this is official now ?

What was the info we kept missing in the april fools thread ?

lonestar

04-16-2005, 11:49 AM

george said on page 2 "hopefully it will be cool".
how often do you see something of prey?

Micki!

04-16-2005, 11:53 AM

Yeepee!!!

I first noticed the Prey Forum Today... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
This sounds über cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

I can't wait to see what this is going to be like... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 11:55 AM

lonestar said:
george said on page 2 "hopefully it will be cool".
how often do you see something of prey?

With Max Payne they received a build of it on cd every month.

Hudson

04-16-2005, 12:06 PM

Lengis said:
I just find it funny that you guys say I'm being annoying, but the only ones flaming here, are you guys.

You were the one to come in here and stir up shit just for the sole purpose of your own personal amusement.

Simon Charles

04-16-2005, 12:22 PM

FireFly said:
Nope, Scarboro made it clear that it was his decision, and said later that he never wanted to work on Portal engines again, that there were fundamental problems with them, and that the whole thing was one big mistake.

Are you saying technology has now caught up with the vision of Prey 3DR had back in 1997? If so, then I don't understand why so many people still bash them. Sounds like their only crime was being overambitious.

Gamebrain

04-16-2005, 12:28 PM

DNF still better get done.

Prey is cool but let 3DR finish DNF first.

Its good that they gave PREY to human head. It will distract us from the DNF development for a little while. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

Micki!

04-16-2005, 12:31 PM

Gamebrain said:

Its good that they gave PREY to human head. It will distract us from the DNF development for a little while. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

It doesn't work for me then... I'm still waiting for DNF... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
But i certanly hope that Prey will be a great game too... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

IHerman

04-16-2005, 12:37 PM

What if they're both done at the same time?

I can't play two games at the same time! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I'm pretty sure Prey will be done before DNF. And that's based on absolutely nothing! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 12:51 PM

By saying that Prey wil be "our next game" 3D Realms have said that Prey will probaply be out before DNF.

ADM

04-16-2005, 12:51 PM

Kristian Joensen said:

lonestar said:
george said on page 2 "hopefully it will be cool".
how often do you see something of prey?

With Max Payne they received a build of it on cd every month.

Actually Joe would download the build.

FireFly

04-16-2005, 12:54 PM

Simon Charles said:
Are you saying technology has now caught up with the vision of Prey 3DR had back in 1997? If so, then I don't understand why so many people still bash them. Sounds like their only crime was being overambitious.

I'm not sure it's even possible now to do what Prey tried to do, i.e physically simulate portals using higher dimensional mathematics. It's much easier to fake it, and that's probably what Human Head are doing.

People bash them because 3DR didn't fully state why the project was put on hold, and indeed there could have been management problems as well.

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 12:54 PM

Okay, but my point still stands.

Gamebrain

04-16-2005, 12:54 PM

then again, he may be saying that the "next game" would be after the long awaited DNF. Who knows. Lets see

The Count

04-16-2005, 01:21 PM

WOOT !! I noticed it only today http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
Now we can look forward to two great games - hopefully.
Because George said that Human Head began working on the new Prey late 2001 it`s quite simple for me how they changed their plans:
In the last century it was originally planned that DNF should be out before Prey. When Prey was stopped in 98 they put it on hold and planned to jump into development again right after DNF went gold.
But DNF slipped several times and sometime in 2001 (probably late spring or summer) they made some important decisions: a basic restart on DNF and at the same time development of a revived Prey by another company. Because no one know when DNF would be done and so it was possible that Prey would be done within a reasonable amount of time. Making Prey in-house after DNF was not an option anymore.
Right?

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 01:32 PM

I have thougth of something, with the Shadow Warrior source code forum the first post was one by Joe, that was not true here neither Joe, Charlie, nor George have introduced this forum or Prey yet.

Also Prey isn't featured here (http://www.3drealms.com/games.html) or in the news on the mainpage yet.

Maybe it is becuase of what is going on with Joe currently ?

trackit

04-16-2005, 01:43 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
Maybe it is becuase of what is going on with Joe currently ?

and what is going on with him? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Ronald McDonald

04-16-2005, 01:43 PM

Are you serious?

Prey is coming soon, this forum is not meant to mislead us http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

BioHazard

04-16-2005, 01:44 PM

Following the 6 months hype rule George set out, Prey will probably be released in early 2006. DNF cannot be released later than 2007 if 3DR expect it to be competitive, so that's what, an extra 6+ months of development that you're saying Prey is supposed to be financing. I find it hard to believe that 3DR can't spare an extra few hundred thousand dollars.

3Drealms are certainly not short of cash. Remember that Max Payne grossed over $70m, not including all the other revenue they got from that. They then sold the max payne IP for $45 million. Perhaps, you can possibly blame max payne for them deciding to scrap DNF and start over. I think they probably wouldn't have wanted to fund another 3-4 yrs development before then, but after that they wouldn't have had problems with being able to fund the game.

Also consider that the development up to 2004 was approximately $5 million, so the budget for the project has not been astronomical.

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 01:49 PM

Ronald McDonald said:
Are you serious?

Prey is coming soon, this forum is not meant to mislead us http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Oh, no that is not what I am saying at all.

trackit said:

Kristian Joensen said:
Maybe it is becuase of what is going on with Joe currently ?

and what is going on with him? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

He is gonna be a father.

Ronald McDonald

04-16-2005, 01:53 PM

A miniature Siegler eh? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

trackit

04-16-2005, 01:53 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
He is gonna be a father.

Oh really? Well, congrads then Joe, whenever you read it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 02:03 PM

There is already a thread (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=825822&an=0&page=0#825822) about it.

SyntaxN

04-16-2005, 02:39 PM

Its good that they gave PREY to human head. It will distract us from the DNF development for a little while. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

That´s my problem atm, they´re trying too make a good placefiller imo http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Shaam

04-16-2005, 02:52 PM

Joe3DR said:

Frenkel said:
3D Realms said they first were going to finish Duke Nukem Forever and then decide what will happen to Prey. Seeing this forum I think Duke Nukem Forever is close to finish, before Prey.

Never forget the possibility of us changing our minds. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

and the engine ? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

thefly

04-16-2005, 03:39 PM

Joe3DR said:

That came up faster than I anticipated - I hadn't even set the moderator permissions for this forum yet before someone asked for screenshots! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nelson.gif

This is awesome news! Can't wait to see the game.

lonestar

04-16-2005, 04:28 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
I have thougth of something, with the Shadow Warrior source code forum the first post was one by Joe, that was not true here neither Joe, Charlie, nor George have introduced this forum or Prey yet.

Also Prey isn't featured here (http://www.3drealms.com/games.html) or in the news on the mainpage yet.

Maybe it is becuase of what is going on with Joe currently ?

don't tell me, you're still skeptical about it. ...

yeah, joe is excited and all, of course. a reason, why the 3dr pages aren't updated?.. no. it's just not on his schedule, yet. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

congrats, joe.

Kristian Joensen

04-16-2005, 06:03 PM

I am not at all sceptical about it. I am really exciting I have been in a good mood all day because of this. Does anybody here no of some of the gaming news sites have picked up on this besides Shacknews and the forums over at avault.com.

Parkar

04-16-2005, 06:06 PM

www.fragzone.se (http://www.fragzone.se) has.

Ras

04-16-2005, 08:20 PM

Blue's News had it as the last news item of the day yesterday.

jkerr

04-16-2005, 08:28 PM

Gamershell announced it early this morning

ADM

04-16-2005, 11:10 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
I have thougth of something, with the Shadow Warrior source code forum the first post was one by Joe, that was not true here neither Joe, Charlie, nor George have introduced this forum or Prey yet.

Also Prey isn't featured here (http://www.3drealms.com/games.html) or in the news on the mainpage yet.

Maybe it is becuase of what is going on with Joe currently ?

Well I was probably just too quick for Joe to post. Plus this forum was made in a rush.

pjohnsonjr

04-16-2005, 11:14 PM

That and Joe has been away mostly for family reasons...

Kristian Joensen

04-17-2005, 01:45 PM

I suggested that myself.

trackit

04-17-2005, 03:14 PM

Now that i search on the net i find that some sites have already stated couple years back that Prey is in development using doom 3 engine..

for example this german site (http://www.gamestar.de/news/pc-spiele/action/12891/)

Ronald McDonald

04-17-2005, 03:20 PM

Evil Avatar was earlier with the rumors

trackit

04-17-2005, 03:23 PM

that proves that sometimes the info is more correct from rumour sites than from hourses mouth http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ronald McDonald

04-17-2005, 03:25 PM

The horse mostly talk smack http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

George Broussard

04-17-2005, 03:32 PM

trackit said:
Now that i search on the net i find that some sites have already stated couple years back that Prey is in development using doom 3 engine..

for example this german site (http://www.gamestar.de/news/pc-spiele/action/12891/)

We were never really sure where the leak was, as very very few people knew about this. But yes, the info about the game leaked a long, long time ago.

Duoae

04-17-2005, 03:34 PM

George Broussard said:

trackit said:
Now that i search on the net i find that some sites have already stated couple years back that Prey is in development using doom 3 engine..

for example this german site (http://www.gamestar.de/news/pc-spiele/action/12891/)

We were never really sure where the leak was, as very very few people knew about this. But yes, the info about the game leaked a long, long time ago.

If it were me, i'd have fired the whole staff and started from scratch.... that'll teach 'em for leaking! I bet it was that John Carmack dude.... he's always looked shifty to me.....

But then again, i'm not a developer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Spooger

04-17-2005, 03:36 PM

George Broussard said:

trackit said:
Now that i search on the net i find that some sites have already stated couple years back that Prey is in development using doom 3 engine..

for example this german site (http://www.gamestar.de/news/pc-spiele/action/12891/)

We were never really sure where the leak was, as very very few people knew about this. But yes, the info about the game leaked a long, long time ago.

The Germans always seem to know about these things...

Totally off-topic (kinda), but I saw an old screenshot from Prey that featured a very naked chest on a very hot chick. So...boobies via the Doom 3 engine! Please God!

Kev_Hectic

04-17-2005, 03:39 PM

trackit said:
Now that i search on the net i find that some sites have already stated couple years back that Prey is in development using doom 3 engine..

for example this german site (http://www.gamestar.de/news/pc-spiele/action/12891/)

You made me dig up an old thread (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=156870&an=&page=0&vc=1) with that news story in it from two years ago. Funny how it's all true. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Drazula

04-17-2005, 04:48 PM

This is terrific news. A 3DR game on id tech... I've been waiting for this since 1998!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

George Broussard

04-17-2005, 05:15 PM

Drazula said:
This is terrific news. A 3DR game on id tech... I've been waiting for this since 1998!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Watch it Draz...we'll turn you into a fanboy yet http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ronstar

04-17-2005, 05:19 PM

OMG I just saw this Forum and my heart made a jump..., do we really ever see this one..., holy shoot, I'm so pleased http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kristian Joensen

04-17-2005, 05:27 PM

Tim Gerritsen over at Human Head Studios is listed as having worked on Mechwarrior 3, Paul Shcuytema worked on Mechwarrior 3.

Maybe there is a connection ?

Drazula

04-17-2005, 08:23 PM

George Broussard said:

Drazula said:
This is terrific news. A 3DR game on id tech... I've been waiting for this since 1998!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Watch it Draz...we'll turn you into a fanboy yet http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I've got a good feeling about this one GB!

[EDIT] I've been saying all this time how wonderful the Doom 3 engine is and you've known all along! Thanks for the help!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

IHerman

04-18-2005, 02:55 AM

I'd love to see Prey kick Doom's ass when it comes to using the engine's full potential. Somehow that's not going to be that hard.

Spyd

04-18-2005, 05:04 AM

George Broussard said:
Lengis,

Trust me when I say that you really have no idea what you are talking about.

It's a pity I don't like signatures, because this SURE wolud go to my sig.

EDIT: Ummmhhh... sorry for the Troll-feeding, I was too fast replying... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Frenkel

04-18-2005, 06:02 AM

Drazula said:
This is terrific news. A 3DR game on id tech... I've been waiting for this since 1998!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bio Menace, Blake Stone and Rise of the Triad are all Apogee games on id tech and they all rock.

Drazula

04-18-2005, 07:54 AM

IHerman said:
I'd love to see Prey kick Doom's ass when it comes to using the engine's full potential. Somehow that's not going to be that hard.

They are starting with the right tool. Anything is possible.

Frenkel said:

Drazula said:
This is terrific news. A 3DR game on id tech... I've been waiting for this since 1998!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Bio Menace, Blake Stone and Rise of the Triad are all Apogee games on id tech and they all rock.

Yep, it's a formula for great gaming. I'm psyched! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

This is the one game I would order blind. The last time I did that was Doom 1! But I am sure we are going to get a lot of info on it before the release.

hell-angel

04-18-2005, 08:10 AM

Drazula said:
But I am sure we are going to get a lot of info on it before the release.

Starting with E3. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

jimbob

04-18-2005, 08:57 AM

w00t , its prey \o/ why didnt i noticed this section before? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Marty

04-18-2005, 11:06 AM

what's Prey?

Vexed

04-18-2005, 02:28 PM

Read around this section of the forum. Try to find the video links posted in various threads..

Kristian Joensen

04-18-2005, 02:31 PM

Marty said:
what's Prey?

Go to apogeegames.com's Prey section, here (http://atlas.secs.oakland.edu/~lcmatero/prey/) .

Jezza

04-18-2005, 03:07 PM

Hudson said:
KICK ASS

Never, ever thought this would happen.

I didn't read the whole thread, so I dunno if this was already mentioned.

I always had my suspicions since about a year ago, when george mentioned on shacknews that he was 'playing a game that isn't supposed to exist' I dunno if he was talking about Prey, at all, but I always believed he meant it. He wouldn't drop hints like that about Duke...

Kristian Joensen

04-18-2005, 03:45 PM

Drazula said:

George Broussard said:

Drazula said:
This is terrific news. A 3DR game on id tech... I've been waiting for this since 1998!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Watch it Draz...we'll turn you into a fanboy yet http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I've got a good feeling about this one GB!

[EDIT] I've been saying all this time how wonderful the Doom 3 engine is and you've known all along! Thanks for the help!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Draz, before you know you will have become the new kaiserSoze. I bet George would love having two KaiserSoze's asking him questions all the time. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Duoae

04-18-2005, 03:55 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
Draz, before you know you will have become the new kaiserSoze. I bet George would love having two KaiserSoze's asking him questions all the time. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No way! I'm the ultimate Prey fan around here! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kristian Joensen

04-18-2005, 03:57 PM

Duoae said:

Kristian Joensen said:
Draz, before you know you will have become the new kaiserSoze. I bet George would love having two KaiserSoze's asking him questions all the time. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No way! I'm the ultimate Prey fan around here! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

He would probaply like three KaiserSoze's even better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Duoae

04-18-2005, 03:59 PM

Kristian Joensen said:

Duoae said:

Kristian Joensen said:
Draz, before you know you will have become the new kaiserSoze. I bet George would love having two KaiserSoze's asking him questions all the time. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No way! I'm the ultimate Prey fan around here! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

He would probaply like three KaiserSoze's even better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'm no Kaiser clone!

George, will Prey have pig-cop strippers?

George, will Prey be on DVD only or both CD and DVD?

George, will Prey rock everyone's world? And if so, how can an unassuming populace deal with having both Prey and DNF in the same world and same space-time continuum?

Kristian Joensen

04-18-2005, 04:00 PM

Duoae said:
[George, will Prey rock everyone's world? And if so, how can an unassuming populace deal with having both Prey and DNF in the same world and same space-time continuum?

Dynamic portals ? A portal between Prey and DNF ?

Maybe Prey wil be a whole new space time continuum ?

Duoae

04-18-2005, 04:03 PM

Hehe, read my page on that....

Kristian Joensen

04-18-2005, 04:10 PM

Where ?

Duoae

04-18-2005, 04:10 PM

LOL, where he asks...... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Kristian Joensen

04-18-2005, 04:11 PM

I ask becuase I don't know.

Duoae

04-18-2005, 04:12 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
I ask becuase I don't know.

Hint
<font color="#1F1F22"> look in my profile </font>

Yenz

04-18-2005, 04:16 PM

Drazula said:
This is terrific news. A 3DR game on id tech... I've been waiting for this since 1998!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I totally agree http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Hmmm, I'm away for 4 days and it's confirmed that it's really Prey (the game I followed now since around 97).
Well nice now to read the old threads about the romour of Prey.
I can only guess that George was a bit terrified when the romour got out a few years ago.

Kristian Joensen

04-18-2005, 04:18 PM

That was a pretty cool read. Are you a author of some kind ?

If not, then you should be.

Duoae

04-18-2005, 04:24 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
That was a pretty cool read. Are you a author of some kind ?

If not, then you should be.

Thanks. But no, i'm not although i have tried. I think i'm too young to be. Too random in my musings and writings - disconnected.... and impatient. I get bored easily and go through spurts of creativeness.... never the same creativeness though........

Hudson

04-18-2005, 04:46 PM

Duoae said:
No way! I'm the ultimate Prey fan around here! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Myself and many others have been Prey fans since '96 .. Trust me when I say you are way out of your league http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Duoae

04-18-2005, 04:48 PM

Hudson said:

Duoae said:
No way! I'm the ultimate Prey fan around here! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Myself and many others have been Prey fans since '96 .. Trust me when I say you are way out of your league http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Do you have to be in the forums to be a fan? I didn't even have internet until 2000 or so....

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

XPM

04-18-2005, 05:49 PM

Seriously...I cant remember when I became a prey fan...96-97 perhaps...Your out of your leauge http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Kristian Joensen

04-18-2005, 05:53 PM

I could have become a Prey fan back then, you don't know if he did. You are just presuming he didn't.

moron

04-18-2005, 06:34 PM

O joy now all we need is a 3d paganitsu http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

George Broussard

04-18-2005, 06:36 PM

We don't care when or how you became a fan http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif It's just good to have you around.

John

04-18-2005, 06:45 PM

George Broussard said:
We don't care when or how you became a fan http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif It's just good to have you around.

Get back to work http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

(Just kidding. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Ofcourse...you could kill me... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif)

Marty

04-18-2005, 07:52 PM

Duoae said:

Hudson said:

Duoae said:
No way! I'm the ultimate Prey fan around here! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Myself and many others have been Prey fans since '96 .. Trust me when I say you are way out of your league http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Do you have to be in the forums to be a fan? I didn't even have internet until 2000 or so....

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

no i am! now where's my freakin medal?!

pjohnsonjr

04-19-2005, 12:15 AM

George Broussard said:
We don't care when or how you became a fan http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif It's just good to have you around.

Well, you guys had me a fan at age 13 when I first got Duke Nukem 3D... So now you guys are stuck with me as a fan whether you like it or not! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

Michelangelo

04-19-2005, 03:06 AM

George Broussard said:
We don't care when or how you became a fan http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif It's just good to have you around.

it's good to be around to Georgey http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

XPM

04-19-2005, 01:04 PM

George Broussard said:
We don't care when or how you became a fan http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif It's just good to have you around.

*Psychotic geeky mode on:

I wanna have yer babey

*Psychotic geeky mode off.

ehh http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Ronald McDonald

04-19-2005, 02:03 PM

I can only guess that George was a bit terrified when the romour got out a few years ago.

Take 2 held a sawed-off to his head http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Oh, how he feared for his life http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

Yenz

04-20-2005, 03:06 PM

Duoae said:

Kristian Joensen said:
Draz, before you know you will have become the new kaiserSoze. I bet George would love having two KaiserSoze's asking him questions all the time. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No way! I'm the ultimate Prey fan around here! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Well I follwed it since late 96. Also posted in most post regarding Prey the last years http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Well it's great it's back, I never doubed it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Imfamous

04-20-2005, 03:27 PM

Isn't this made by the same guys that made that POS Dead Man's Hand? Hope this one turns out a little better.

George Broussard

04-21-2005, 03:53 AM

Imfamous said:
Isn't this made by the same guys that made that POS Dead Man's Hand? Hope this one turns out a little better.

Human Head is a very talented group. One thing you should understand about making games...developers often don't have much choice in what they make, or how long they make it. The publishers control that, and if you want to eat and stay alive, you sometimes have to make games you wouldn't otherwise make, and you certainly have to ship them before they are ready.

So don't be too quick to judge based on that game. Remember that before Max Payne, Remedy made Death Rally. Certainly a quality title, but nowhere near the scope, size and quality of Max.

zwieback

04-21-2005, 04:10 AM

George Broussard said:

Imfamous said:
Isn't this made by the same guys that made that POS Dead Man's Hand? Hope this one turns out a little better.

Human Head is a very talented group. One thing you should understand about making games...developers often don't have much choice in what they make, or how long they make it. The publishers control that, and if you want to eat and stay alive, you sometimes have to make games you wouldn't otherwise make, and you certainly have to ship them before they are ready.

So don't be too quick to judge based on that game. Remember that before Max Payne, Remedy made Death Rally. Certainly a quality title, but nowhere near the scope, size and quality of Max.

i really really would like be in the position of 3drealms with my company http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
but we suck and they don't .. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif