June PC Gamer exclusive?

[sflufan]

In the May issue of PC Gamer, there's a teaser that the June issue will have an exclusive feature about the "return of one of the biggest franchises in gaming".

Now we all know that Prey will be in that issue but somehow I don't think that qualifies for that title.

Anyone here care to speculate that we might get a dual Prey/DNF report? I realize that the chances of this are VERY remote but still it's something to ponder.

[Andy018]

it will probably be Quake 4

[JackpotDen]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/devilish.gif

Ha-hahahaaaa.

Told you so, mother F***ers.

\/

[Rellik66]

If they're talking about a 3DR franchise, then a double header of DNF and Prey is all that can mean

[sflufan]

Actually, Quake IV was their "world exclusive" for their November 2004 issue so that can't be it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[85pHotpot]

Yeh, Quake 4 has been shown before. This may just be the one. The timing is just about right.

[Doppelgofer]

RED FACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE LOVED THAT!!!! SOLID FACT

[END]

[Andy018]

Half life 3 :P


hell who knows i just seriously SERIOUSLY doubt it will be DNF

[85pHotpot]

Red Faction was an average albeit quite enjoyable shooter that rapidly faded into obscurity.

[JackpotDen]

serious sam? Bubsy :P?

[Damien_Azreal]

serious sam?



True a Serious Sam 2 preview would kick ass, but I'm kindof hoping for more.

Like he said, Prey will be shown in this issue... but like it's being discussed in the Prey forum, Prey ins't really a Franchise yet. A double feature would kick ass... but in my heart I really doubt it.

*sits back and waits for Joe to end this discussion*

[Nacho]

If it is DNF then it makes you think. 3DR is saying wait till June for PC Gamer to unveil Prey. Meanwhile they are really side tracting us so we forget about DNF for a while.

However if DNF is in the June issue then I will be extremely happy and extremely sad. If DNF is shown or released at the same time as Prey then Prey will fall into the shadows.

[Hudson]

Guys, jesus.. the source on the Prey page (and GeorgeB himself) have said that it was Prey.

I highly doubt that DNF will be covered.

[Nacho]

Hudson said:
Guys, jesus.. the source on the Prey page (and GeorgeB himself) have said that it was Prey.

I highly doubt that DNF will be covered.



That's what I was trying to say. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[sflufan]

Just so you guys know, Computer Games Magazine is rumored have the "exclusive" Serious Sam 2 preview in their next issue.

And to comment again - yes, we do know that Prey will be in the June PC Gamer - that's a given. But the teaser from PC Gamer said that it was "one of the biggest franchises in gaming", a description that hardly fits Prey.

[Hudson]

sflufan said:
And to comment again - yes, we do know that Prey will be in the June PC Gamer - that's a given. But the teaser from PC Gamer said that it was "one of the biggest franchises in gaming", a description that hardly fits Prey.



You're reading too much into things

[Nacho]

There are a lot more possibilities.

Sonic
Mario
Final Fantasy 12
Halo 3


Wait...Oh god.... COMMANDER KEEN!

[sflufan]

Hudson said:

sflufan said:
And to comment again - yes, we do know that Prey will be in the June PC Gamer - that's a given. But the teaser from PC Gamer said that it was "one of the biggest franchises in gaming", a description that hardly fits Prey.



You're reading too much into things



I probably am - but I'm just throwing out possibilities. But I think we can all agree that Prey is NOT "one of the biggest franchises" in all of gaming.

[Hudson]

It's definetely one of the most infamous. It was the staple for "vaporware" until this point.

[Black_Hat]

I think that that speculation is the biggest possibility. I can't think of a franchise other than Duke that would get a "world exclusive" that's one of the "biggest" franchises.

Plus... PREY IS BEING FEATURED. Jesus, it's SUCH what's going to happen. It makes too much sense.

[sflufan]

Black_Hat said:
I think that that speculation is the biggest possibility. I can't think of a franchise other than Duke that would get a "world exclusive" that's one of the "biggest" franchises.

Plus... PREY IS BEING FEATURED. Jesus, it's SUCH what's going to happen. It makes too much sense.



I'm glad someone shares my delusions http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Black_Hat]

yep, sflufan, i sure do share YOUR delusions. YOUR delusions make a lot of sense.

[sflufan]

Ok ok - they were YOUR delusions originally http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Gamebrain]

who knows. Prey was not a franchise, and I highly doubt it would be HL3.

just wait i guess...

[Black_Hat]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

We must both be delusional to actually believe that DNF will be released.

[Damien_Azreal]

Here's what is on the last page of PC Gamer...

"In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

Read into what you will.

[Ivan]

I see DNF. Time will tell. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[siranarchy]

Ivan said:
I see DNF. Time will tell. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



I see a big phat joint so I can bear the tenstion another half year till its the 10th aniversary

[Hudson]

All of you getting your hopes up for DNF will be severely dissapointed.

[Simon Charles]

sflufan said:
In the May issue of PC Gamer, there's a teaser that the June issue will have an exclusive feature about the "return of one of the biggest franchises in gaming".

Now we all know that Prey will be in that issue but somehow I don't think that qualifies for that title.



It's Prey.

[Evil Angel]

Damien_Azreal said:
Here's what is on the last page of PC Gamer...

"In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

Read into what you will.



When you consider Prey, biggest franchises and triumphant return don't strictly fit. It could just be hyperbole. It probably is. But you see Prey and hear 3DR and the next question from just about anybody will be... So what's up with DNF? Maybe they'll give out a few titbits to shut people up before they start.

[Mister_Lynyrd]

I can't believe you guys fall for their shit each month... THIS is exactly the kind of bullshit they want to happen with their little top secret crap.

It sells the rag.

[Nacho]

Damien_Azreal said:
Here's what is on the last page of PC Gamer...

"In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

Read into what you will.



This just proves that it is Prey and not DNF. Prey has been as far as we knew dead for several years. It was a huge thing when it was first started so now it is back and so it is a big franchise. Though I could be wrong.

[Evil Angel]

Mister_Lynyrd said:
I can't believe you guys fall for their shit each month... THIS is exactly the kind of bullshit they want to happen with their little top secret crap.

It sells the rag.



Not to me. I just stand and thumb the pages at the supermarket for 5 minutes. Everything else I read on the net. It's cheaper. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Ivan]

Hudson said:
All of you getting your hopes up for DNF will be severely dissapointed.



So what are your bets on?

[KaiserSoze]

how can prey be one of the biggest franchises in pc gaming history when a game was never released? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

that's entirely too much asskissing for prey.

still, it's pc gamer and those guys have a tendancy to over-hype everything, especially their so called "world exclusives".

i really do think they word their blurbs like that to screw with duke fans. my opinion.

/grumble grumble just woke up out of bed. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

george-can you please make your usual denial it's dnf so everyone can can stop with the feeding frenzy?

[Hudson]

Ivan said:

Hudson said:
All of you getting your hopes up for DNF will be severely dissapointed.



So what are your bets on?



Prey, obviously.

[Nacho]

Hudson said:

Ivan said:

Hudson said:
All of you getting your hopes up for DNF will be severely dissapointed.



So what are your bets on?



Prey, obviously.



Yes, Prey.

[Black_Hat]

I agree that there's no reason we should believe that DNF will be featured - in fact, after all that we've been through people should bet against it. But you don't think it's a stretch to call Prey "one of the biggest franchises" and claim it's going to have a "triumphant return"?

Maybe, technically, it could make sense. But it's a manipulation of words.

ALSO, it's NOT ONE OF THE BIGGEST. Jesus, it's ridiculous. Most people have never even heard of Prey. But if it IS being shown and it's not the feature, than it would make great sense for it to be featured side-by-side with DNF.

[someguy2435]

I'm hoping it's DNF... but it's not like PC Gamer hasn't over hyped crap before, to sell more issues.... *cough*10thAnniversaryIssue*cough*

[Hudson]

Christ can we keep this in one thread please? I am getting very tired of repeating myself..

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/sh...p;page=0#827675 (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=827675&an=0&page=0#827675)

[someguy2435]

Saw it here first; I'm innocent! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Steve]

Andy018 said:
it will probably be Quake 4


Yeah, I'd say Quake 4

[Evil Angel]

Quake 4's already been in. The more you think about it; biggest gaming franchise just doesn't fit with Prey at all. I really don't think a whole hell of a lot of people will even know what Prey is. Especially younger gamers. I didn't know that much about it till I started coming here.

George or someone from 3DR may have done an interview with the magazine. They would have obviously asked about DNF. Maybe George threw them a bone and they genuinely do have something to announce on DNF. So they created that blurb and we might get a paragraph at best about DNF in a 2-4 page preview of Prey.

I think that's possible. Doubtful. But possible.

[jkerr]

Just some food for thought. What if the advertisement for a level creator was in reference to Prey (not DNF) and that the hype of Prey is actually hyping DNF (which is closer to release than Prey). It would be a much cooler surprise if you think about it. That way, DNF gets the exclusive....Prey is covered in a few paragraphs leaving the rest of the hype for Prey to speculation in the forums (much like DNF). I know that sounds backwards, but it is just another thought.

Either way, I think both will be covered in the issue. My thought above may be just a dumb idea, but I like leaving the door open to possibilities.

[jkerr]

I changed my mind. I realize now that Human Head would have advertised for a level designer much like they did in October:

(thanks: Shacknews). We remind you that Human Head Studios was looking in October 2004 for an experienced level designer for "an unannounced Doom3 engine based game", so there are big chances that Prey to be powered by DOOM III engine.

So, if anything, I think I realized now a potential time frame. October to now for Prey(approx 6 months of level designing before the announcement). This means DNF could be about 6 months from an announcement with the same logic.

[Krid]

3DR said we would find out WID before any magazine, so I'd put money down that it's NOT DNF.

[mysteryperfecta]

KaiserSoze said:
how can prey be one of the biggest franchises in pc gaming history when a game was never released? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif



I agree. I don't see how people are missing this, unless they're ignorant of the definition of a "franchise". Prey may be in the next PC Gamer, but it can't be what PC Gamer is referring to in that teaser. Their Prey feature might not fill a page. Don't assume it's the main feature, or worthy of the biggest hype. Prey is, at best, a footnote in the history PC gaming.

Serious Sam doesn't fit that description, either.

It could be any one of a number of gaming franchises. Could it be Tomb Raider? A new Sim City game? The last Myst game? King's Quest? Whatever they're referring to, it's not Prey.

[kj_57701]

Hm. I would actually not be surprised if it is DNF. I just got a distinct impression that they need level designers more for Prey than DNF at this point. Maybe they have gotten to the point of help for just finish polishing. I think they said they would announce DNF about 6 months before release (like others mentioned here). Just in time for Christmas 2005 would not be too far fetched would it? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I was just thinking of something mentioned by GB that said something like 'you have been waiting for quite a while. We will have to do something about that'. Besides what George said was that we would know when the game is WID, not when it was going to be announced/previewed', right? Oh, here I go getting all excited again like so many times before.

[Claws]

mysteryperfecta said:

KaiserSoze said:
how can prey be one of the biggest franchises in pc gaming history when a game was never released? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif



I agree. I don't see how people are missing this, unless they're ignorant of the definition of a "franchise". Prey may be in the next PC Gamer, but it can't be what PC Gamer is referring to in that teaser. Their Prey feature might not fill a page. Don't assume it's the main feature, or worthy of the biggest hype. Prey is, at best, a footnote in the history PC gaming.

Serious Sam doesn't fit that description, either.

It could be any one of a number of gaming franchises. Could it be Tomb Raider? A new Sim City game? The last Myst game? King's Quest? Whatever they're referring to, it's not Prey.



You're so wise.

[MegaMustaine]

Krid said:
3DR said we would find out WID before any magazine, so I'd put money down that it's NOT DNF.



3dr also said prey was on hold, and a bunch of other shit. Oh and Serious Sam is not one of the biggest franchises in gaming. My money is on DNF. I would bet that the Prey thing that we have been seeing is a ploy to get it hype which it has. Hype the game that will need it, while keeping your real hand hidden till the right time to show it. DNF will hype itself, Prey will need extra help at least for a little while. Oh and since when has Kaiser been against a conspiracy theory. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[FireFly]

Prey is not "one of the biggest franchises in PC gaming", but I wouldn't put it past PC Gamer to call it that. Anyway George said there were more than 2 screenshots, likely meaning a multi page article.

At best, they'll be some combined DNF/Prey info.

[Night Hacker]

I don't trust ANYTHING PC Gamer has to say. Nothing, Nada, Zip, Zilch!

Sheesh guys, HOW many times has PC Gamer used Duke Nukem Forever to sell their rag? Anyone remember the partial Nuke symbol and big issue way back? I never did find out what game that was, but it sure hinted at DNF... as they do all the time and as they are doing now.

I don't trust anything they say anymore and won't spend a dime on their rag.

EVERY TIME they say something that sounds DNFish... a thread pops up and people get their hopes up (and PC Gamer probably sells more issues).

[Mr. Milton]

EVERY TIME they say something that sounds DNFish...



Duke Nukem Fish...? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

[theHunted]

i've been a long time gamer but to be honest i never heard about a game called prey before. now it might just be me who missed out the game but seriously, "One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming" has got to be something bigger. something everybody who got the slightest connection to pc gaming should know. not sure what i wanted to say by that. nevermind http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[hell-angel]

You never played prey because it was canned, now rumours say it is restarted. (not officially confirmed yet however).

As for news regarding DNF, I will only trust that if it is posted on the front page of the 3DR website. As should you all do!!!

NEVER EVER trust the media for news. Most of that is just attempts to sell their stuff and/or earn money.

[MegaMustaine]

hell-angel said:
You never played prey because it was canned, now rumours say it is restarted. (not officially confirmed yet however).

As for news regarding DNF, I will only trust that if it is posted on the front page of the 3DR website. As should you all do!!!

NEVER EVER trust the media for news. Most of that is just attempts to sell their stuff and/or earn money.



www.prey.com (http://www.prey.com)

And George confirmed it is in production and will be in the PC gamer. Oh on that website wait a few secs. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[3D Master]

Nacho said:

Damien_Azreal said:
Here's what is on the last page of PC Gamer...

"In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

Read into what you will.



This just proves that it is Prey and not DNF. Prey has been as far as we knew dead for several years. It was a huge thing when it was first started so now it is back and so it is a big franchise. Though I could be wrong.



Except of course that Prey was never here in the firs place, so it can't 'return', and it most certainly wasn't 'big', let alone 'franchise'.

[3D Master]

Tomb Raider Legend is coming, however pretty much everyone seems to know it already, it's all over the web, so it doesn't seem exactly a 'world exculsive', but then you've said PC Gamer exaggerated that. The franchise that's returning in PC Gamer is Tomb Raider.

[hell-angel]

MegaMustaine said:

hell-angel said:
You never played prey because it was canned, now rumours say it is restarted. (not officially confirmed yet however).

As for news regarding DNF, I will only trust that if it is posted on the front page of the 3DR website. As should you all do!!!

NEVER EVER trust the media for news. Most of that is just attempts to sell their stuff and/or earn money.



www.prey.com (http://www.prey.com)

And George confirmed it is in production and will be in the PC gamer. Oh on that website wait a few secs. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



oh ok.. thanks, So prey is officially confirmed and that website thingie is cool. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[wild_quinine]

It could be Half Life 2. They're releasing an add-on pack for Half Life 2 this summer, you know?

That fits the bill, if you ask me. Even up to and including the usual stupid amount of hyperbole. You know 'Triumphant Return!'... but it's only been six months? 'Yes, but it's a return! And Triumphant!'

Blah. My money is on Half Life.

[hell-angel]

wild_quinine said:
It could be Half Life 2. They're releasing an add-on pack for Half Life 2 this summer, you know?

That fits the bill, if you ask me. Even up to and including the usual stupid amount of hyperbole. You know 'Triumphant Return!'... but it's only been six months? 'Yes, but it's a return! And Triumphant!'

Blah. My money is on Half Life.



My money is...

IN MY WALLET and there is where it will stay (at least regarding PC Gamer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ). Maybe it is DNF,. maybe it is prey and maybe they are talking about commander keen (keen 3d. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ) or unreal 3 or... *fill in the blanks*. Let's wait until June ok. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[jet jaguar 2.0]

One of the biggest franchises in pc gaming? Well let's analyze this.

BIGGEST FRANCHISES IN PC GAMING
The Sims(no Sims 2 came out in 2004)
Civilization(maybe)
Age of Empires(no, preview of AOE3 done recently)
Warcraft(no, too soon after WC3)
Starcraft(maybe)
Half-Life(no, too soon after HL2)
Unreal Tournament(no, too soon after UT2K4)
Doom(no, too soon after D3)
Quake(no, preview of Q4 done recently)
Command and Conquer(no, too soon after C&C:G)
Duke Nukem(maybe)
Ultima(maybe)
Mechwarrior(maybe)
Jedi Knight:Dark Forces(maybe)
Everquest(no, too soon after EQ2)
Rainbow Six(maybe)
Sim City(maybe)
Wing Commander(maybe)

Now let's analyze the 'maybes':
Civilization(info's already been leaked, no exclusive)

Starcraft(SC2 in the works? sounds good)

Duke Nukem(as good a chance as any)

Ultima(highly doubtful after latest Ultima false starts)

Mechwarrior(it'd be cool but I still think MW is dead)

JK:DF(doubtful since emphasis is on new SW movie)

Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon(it's possible)

Sim City(also a possibility)

Wing Commander(horrible movie took franchise with it)

FINALISTS
Starcraft
Duke Nukem
Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon
Sim City

If I were a betting man I'd say the exclusive will come down to Duke Nukem and Starcraft. I'm glad I don't bet. If the game turns out to be Tomb Raider I'll cancel my PCG subscription on the spot.

[hell-angel]

Well, a new tomb raider has been announced. So everything is possible. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Lotan]

If Prey(confirmed) and DNF both in the PCG, then DNF will greatly overshadow Prey. It's not so good for HH and 3dR. Prey needs hype, DNF is always megahyped, just throw a bone.

[wild_quinine]

jet jaguar 2.0 said:
One of the biggest franchises in pc gaming? Well let's analyze this.

BIGGEST FRANCHISES IN PC GAMING

Half-Life(no, too soon after HL2)



http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Marketing/April15.2005/?l=english

So you see it kind of depends on what you mean by too soon. Too soon to release more half life? Apparently not. Too soon for PC gamer to put Half Life back on the front cover? Yes, I agree. But PC gamer probably don't. They should just have that lambda etched into the magazine logo. Probably instead of the R. Then it would look l33t.

- matt

[KaiserSoze]

pc gamer are a bunch of nimtards. i realize they have to sell magazines but i'm sick and tired of them using duke fans for hype.

they've done this one too many times in the past strongly hinting their "exclusive" was duke nukem forever when it's something else.

there is no way in hell "prey" fits what pc gamer writes here: "One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

i'm sorry but "prey" is not an established "franchise", let alone "one of the biggest" in pc gaming. the freaking game has never been out!

now i'm not down on "prey" at all, i'm pumped as hell for the game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

my issue is with pc gamer magazine and their continued double talk and flat out misleading news previews.

this is why fans here are debating whether it's prey or dnf. don't get pissed off at fans who think it may be dnf. the only triumphant pc game making it's return would be a duke game imho.

pc gamer could have easily worded that blurb to give a hint about prey without invoking dnf.

"in our next issue, we have the world exclusive news on a pc game that has risen from the dead and is ready
to finally make it's debut. have your "prayers" been answered?"

"prayers" is an obvious wink at "prey".
"risen from the dead" is another clue as everyone basically thought "prey" was indeed dead.

bah whatever.

i'm gonna go to pc gamer headquarters and straighten shit out over there. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[IHerman]

On the other hand if they'd be honest it would be something like this:

"In our next issue we have, again, nothing that special. We could have announced a few articles as the biggest game franchise's ever, but most of you don't really care anyway."

That would have been a great seller. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[trackit]

IHerman said:
On the other hand if they'd be honest it would be something like this:

"In our next issue we have, again, nothing that special. We could have announced a few articles as the biggest game franchise's ever, but most of you don't really care anyway."

That would have been a great seller. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


but then again, Prey IS special... i can feel it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Prey was in development since 2001, i wonder what they have done with that doom 3 engine... i think it will be really great game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

i hope that it wount be as dark as doom though http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[lurker1]

Prey has never happened so how can it be a franchise?

If Prey is ramped up in PC Gamer before DNF dont you think that is a bit of a kick in the teeth.

3DR said they would finish DNF before starting anything else, even if someone else does Prey they still must have a lot of input!!

[Ronald McDonald]

Nacho said:
If it is DNF then it makes you think. 3DR is saying wait till June for PC Gamer to unveil Prey. Meanwhile they are really side tracting us so we forget about DNF for a while.

However if DNF is in the June issue then I will be extremely happy and extremely sad. If DNF is shown or released at the same time as Prey then Prey will fall into the shadows.



Not if DNF is X-BOX exclusiv http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[hell-angel]

Ronald McDonald said:

Nacho said:
If it is DNF then it makes you think. 3DR is saying wait till June for PC Gamer to unveil Prey. Meanwhile they are really side tracting us so we forget about DNF for a while.

However if DNF is in the June issue then I will be extremely happy and extremely sad. If DNF is shown or released at the same time as Prey then Prey will fall into the shadows.



Not if DNF is X-BOX exclusiv http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif



Now that is what I call blasphemy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ted.jpg

[Crash_7]

Nacho said:
This just proves that it is Prey and not DNF. Prey has been as far as we knew dead for several years. It was a huge thing when it was first started so now it is back and so it is a big franchise. Though I could be wrong.



The term "franchise" means a series of games. Prey has never even been one game.

[Airtraffic]

Relax,it's just Team Fortress 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[KaiserSoze]

Airtraffic said:
Relax,it's just Team Fortress 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif that series needs to be put to pasture.

battlefield 1942 and battlefield 2 will have that covered.

i'm still thinking we're getting "worked" and that we may indeed see dnf next month along with prey.

i think 3dr can show both games off and it wouldn't hurt either one.

[Airtraffic]

KaiserSoze said:

Airtraffic said:
Relax,it's just Team Fortress 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif that series needs to be put to pasture.




Same could be said for Duke!

[Nacho]

Crash_7 said:
The term "franchise" means a series of games. Prey has never even been one game.



Surprisingly it doesn't. Though it is usually used in the same sentence as a series.

[Zorgblub]

Does anyone know when the June PC Gamer will be out ?
Because I'll spend my all day refreshing this forum when it's out http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

[Nacho]

Well, believe it or not it will be out in June.

[Hudson]

Airtraffic said:

KaiserSoze said:

Airtraffic said:
Relax,it's just Team Fortress 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif that series needs to be put to pasture.




Same could be said for Duke!



The same was said for Prey and look what happened there http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Derwin]

JackpotDen said:
serious sam? Bubsy :P?




Definately Bubsy... I have been waiting all of my life for a sequel to that amazing game. The cutscenes were awesome!!!

Edit: Oh, BTW, PC Gamer always comes out a month early. So, I currently have the may issue, and the june will be out next month. NOT JUNE. Bye.

[Bushido]

Ivan said:

Hudson said:
All of you getting your hopes up for DNF will be severely dissapointed.



So what are your bets on?




Always bet on Duke...



Seriously though this could definitely work. 6 months PR after the unveiling...That would place DNF at a December 2005 release date...


...just in time for Christmas. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[mysteryperfecta]

FireFly said:

At best, they'll be some combined DNF/Prey info.



It's possible, because we have no idea what's possible. Our speculation on how close DNF is to completion is without merit. 3dr has been mum on the subject for years. "X means it's over a year out," or "Y means it will definately be out by _____." Meaningless speculation.

DNF could be six months out. I doubt it, but only because I can't imagine it. Whether it is or it isn't, eventually, PC Gamer's tease WILL be about DNF. And it's going to happen when we don't expect it, because we don't have any reason to "expect" at all.

[Bobby B]

What are you guys talkin about - there's only one game that this could be!

Big rigs 2: over the hill!

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/reviews/919220_20040114_screen001.jpg

WOOOWOOO!

[Damien_Azreal]

Here's a thought, why not just wait until someone with a subscription gets thier issue. Then we will know for sure. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Duoae]

Wait.... WAIT?!!! Are you crazy!


http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Beelze]

Ha! 'Wait,' he says... I'll show him!

You just wait Damien, you just wait. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[Jamin]

Here is a little fuel in the fire.

When PC Gamer says “franchise” could they mean 3DR as a company and not a game?

If so then it is Prey.

I have to agree that George said that the Forum will know before anyone else and I have to believe that. The only way it could be DNF is if George posts something here the night before the magazine ships.

I want to believe it will be DNF that is unveiled, but I have to believe George.

Jamin.

[The Gentle Ruffian]

http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9918723

hmmmmm ... does not sound encouraging, gents...

[Nacho]

The Gentle Ruffian said:
http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9918723

hmmmmm ... does not sound encouraging, gents...



Internet is screwed up. Someone tell me what it says.

[pirateguy]

sflufan said:

Now we all know that Prey will be in that issue but somehow I don't think that qualifies for that title.





Definately not, there is no previous Prey titles to warrant it as a franchise.

[lonestar]

The Gentle Ruffian said:
http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9918723

hmmmmm ... does not sound encouraging, gents...



best thread ever. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif he knows how to tease us.

this "we sent them more than 2 shots" was a reply to a prey post, though. so, no internet alert, guys.

[Jamin]

pirateguy said:

sflufan said:

Now we all know that Prey will be in that issue but somehow I don't think that qualifies for that title.





Definately not, there is no previous Prey titles to warrant it as a franchise.



Could 3DR be considered a Franchise?

[Gryph]

Jamin said:

pirateguy said:

sflufan said:

Now we all know that Prey will be in that issue but somehow I don't think that qualifies for that title.





Definately not, there is no previous Prey titles to warrant it as a franchise.



Could 3DR be considered a Franchise?


In the same vein as McDonalds or Subway? I don't think so.

[Kristian Joensen]

Look you guys as somebody has mentioned, franchise !=series. Maybe PC Gamer thinks Prey is gonna be the biggest franchise ever ?

[Jamin]

GryphonKlaw said:

Jamin said:

pirateguy said:

sflufan said:

Now we all know that Prey will be in that issue but somehow I don't think that qualifies for that title.





Definately not, there is no previous Prey titles to warrant it as a franchise.



Could 3DR be considered a Franchise?


In the same vein as McDonalds or Subway? I don't think so.



Damn!!! I was all geared up for a double 3DR with cheese and a side order of Duke Fry's. To go.

[KaiserSoze]

OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[General Failure]

KaiserSoze said:
OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

What makes you say that? Georges quote doesn't sound very encouraging...

Am I missing something? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

KaiserSoze said:
OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



Are you basing this on something ?

[Jamin]

KaiserSoze said:
OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



You of all people know that George said we would know before anyone else. You have to know that if it was Duke then they would be at E3. And we know they wont be.

[Evil Angel]

Why would they be at E3? Didn't they say once that they might never bother with E3 again?

[Zaarin]

KaiserSoze said:
OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



True or false? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

If it's true, I go to sell my kidneys... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[The Gentle Ruffian]

KaiserSoze said:
OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



Kaiser,
do you know something you do not want/cannot share with us or is it your irony? Your source at 3DRealms? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

He has no sources.

[lonestar]

it's kaiser, you know... this should be enough as an answer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

He migth not have a source for this but he regularly exchanges PM's with Charlie and George.

That is why he sometimes seems to have insider info, well in actuall fact he just asks more questions. I doubt Charlie or George would answer the same questions differently if somebody else asked them. he is just good at thinking of the rigth questions to aks in order to maximise the info he can get out of them.

[The Gentle Ruffian]

Of course, he does not. He is THE source himself. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[JackpotDen]

Bushido said:
Always bet on Duke...



Seriously though this could definitely work. 6 months PR after the unveiling...That would place DNF at a December 2005 release date...


...just in time for Christmas. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



I highly doubt a christmas 2005 release, as they could wait 1 more month, and have a Duke 3d 10th aniversary thing.

\/ sig proclaims so.

[Beelze]

KaiserSoze said:
OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif


Take your medication.

[Jamin]

Where is kaiser??? The suspence is killing me!!! Was it a joke because if it wasnt he is probably drunk and danceing in the street screaming (When its Done!!!, When its Done!!!)

Come on, dont leave us wondering......

[JackpotDen]

Beelze said:

KaiserSoze said:
OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif


Take your medication.



Nice one dude.

[General Failure]

Beelze said:

KaiserSoze said:
OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif


Take your medication.

Here's his medication:

http://buyeshirts.com/2420.jpg

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[Nacho]

Oh yeah. Kaiser better grab the salt.

[The Count]

Beelze said:

KaiserSoze said:
OH $HIT, IT *IS* DUKE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

/faints

About time guys! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif


Take your medication.



I could use one, too

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Kaiser knows nothing, I really wish that you people would understand that and have the critical thinking ability to discern that he has no affiliation with 3DRealms other than being a member of a non-exclusive message board.

[Duoae]

Inanimate Carbon Rod said:
Kaiser knows nothing, I really wish that you people would understand that and have the critical thinking ability to discern that he has no affiliation with 3DRealms other than being a member of a non-exclusive message board.



What? You mean he's not a developer and doesn't own 3DRealms?!!

I've been sending him this money all this time........
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

I know that, he hasn't claimed otherwise.

[Gamebrain]

If this is true Kaiser, I will need a new pair of underwear!


Giddy with suspense!

[FireFly]

I can't imagine hearing new info about DNF. It just doesn't seem right.

[wildwood]

If the forum users are to find out first and 3DR isn't yet ready to officially announce it, then this is probably what they were talking about by us finding out first.

It would have to be an unofficial way of letting us know. IF kaiser does PM with George, then maybe George somehow hinted or told kaiser to tell the group and we now know "unoffically" before anyone else... maybe

[Jamin]

wildwood said:
If the forum users are to find out first and 3DR isn't yet ready to officially announce it, then this is probably what they were talking about by us finding out first.

It would have to be an unofficial way of letting us know. IF kaiser does PM with George, then maybe George somehow hinted or told kaiser to tell the group and we now know "unoffically" before anyone else... maybe



That is scary. I really hope that Kaiser will confirm if he was joking or not.

[5ththrax]

i bet the 3DR staff is sitting in their offices laughing at how one sentence can start 1,000,000 rumors and 1,000,000 speculations. They are probably betting money on many pages these posts with go.

On a sidenote....do u think if i order PCGamer today, i will get the June issue? lmao. But seriously im gonna start a subscription....i member along time ago there wuz a front page Duke Nukem thing....dont remember to much.....it got thown out tho!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Zorgblub]

You can sign up for a free magazine on the PC Gamer website.

[Elmurfud]

I didn't see anywere in this thread that mentioned Diablo 3

or starcraft ghost (starcraft 2 but not ghost).

also purportedly in the works...
Arcanum 2
Fallout 2
Dungeon Seige 2
Descent 4
Disciples 3
a new hexen game
a new wolfenstein game

[MegaMustaine]

I'd say it is a good sign it hasn't been locked yet. There is usually a "Nope not us guys" from George or Joe and then a lock. Well I'll give it another few hours before that happens. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Drazula]

It's Prey. It's gotta be. Not that Prey is "one of the biggest franchises". It's just that PC Gamer is a whore.

Their previews are good. The rest of the mag is only useful for wiping my butt.

[Hudson]

Drazula said:
It's Prey. It's gotta be. Not that Prey is "one of the biggest franchises". It's just that PC Gamer is a whore.

Their previews are good. The rest of the mag is only useful for wiping my butt.



I actually agree with Draz here. Those of you who are getting your hopes up for DNF are going to be severely dissapointed.

[Tim. Just Tim.]

Thats ok, were used to it.

*Gets hopes up*

[Derwin]

Tim. Just Tim. said:
Thats ok, were used to it.

*Gets hopes up*



Agreed! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[KaiserSoze]

maybe i misread george's blurb on the shack saying he provided pc gamer with a "couple shots".

then people starting acting like "nah, can't be" and he responded by saying "did you read what i just said?" something along those lines.

i guess with all the recent hype and cryptic hints about "prey" which also can be construed to be "dnf", it's kinda been toying with dnf fans a bit i think.

i wish george would just come out and say "no, no chance for dnf material in the forseeable future" and i think that would be fine.

i'm guilty of letting my emotions for dnf get in the way of logical thought.

in some ways, i do believe the dnf fan base has been "preyed" on.....when do we actually get to see the game we've been waiting for?

no disrespect, just an honest question that hopefully will be answered next month(cause that question will be asked "what about dnf?".)

edit: didn't mean to get anyone excited, as i said it appears from george's comments that he was referring to dnf or not. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

i guess what i'm trying to say is i hope our time for dnf will come soon.

/bah http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[kj_57701]

Ahh. My excitement about some kind of DNF unveiling has died down after only a day this time.

Good. Better luck next year perhaps http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Anyway, It'll be cool to see the unveiling of Prey though http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Did you guys read the Prey timeline articles. I feel almost sorry for Human Head, It'll be a miracle if they can pull it off (much more so than DNF).

[Night Hacker]

Someone on the Shack mentioned another game, the only other game that I would like to see AS MUCH as DNF... "Redneck Rampage". Very doubtful, but I would love to see another version of that game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The only game I am interested in from 3DR is DNF. I am curious about Prey, but it just doesn't bring out the same emotions or excitement.

3DRealms not only will finish DNF but also complete a game everyone thought was dead, that will really shut a few nay sayers up. Talk about being owned. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


(hmm... advertisement idea 3DR... a picture of DNF and PREY and beneath the two... the word PWNED!!! Spray painted. heheheh)

[jkerr]

I re-read all of the shack news thread. I have to agree that George's comments were vague (but as are most of shack news threads). Its like trying to understand a conversation with 300 people carrying on different conversations in the same room. Anyway, I am strongly favoring DNF. The other good point made was this thread still exists =)

[Nacho]

5ththrax said:
i member along time ago there wuz a front page Duke Nukem thing....dont remember to much.....it got thown out tho!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif



My DNF collection always has some use. He was featured twice on the cover about DNF

[Nacho]

and...

[dudetheman19]

Wont me DNF nothing else to say.

[laffer]

I've kinda lost my exitement for DNF now, it's just taken too long. But (!) that will change drastically when and if the game is released, I'll probably be more exited than I've ever been because of a game (if you count out old Lucasfilm/Art & Sierra adventure games of course).

But I'm 100% sure DNF won't be featured in that mag, mainly based on my gut feeling.

Btw, I haven't posted in a long time now.. it's all because of WOW! Damn that game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[AgentSmith21]

Hehe yeah Sierra games always took the cake.

But DNF will be wonderful. I love the fact that it was on the cover of PCGamer in 1997.

[MegaMustaine]

I still have a strong feeling that this PC gamer will have Duke in it. It just seems to make sense, as there has been alot of duke rumors and things going on on this board, and for once they haven't been shut down. Oh and by the way how do we decide if Kaiser eats his underwear if they both appear at once.

[BabyFace]

Reading through this thread a little, I come to the conclusion that you guys have too much time on your hands.
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Night Hacker]

jkerr said:
I re-read all of the shack news thread. I have to agree that George's comments were vague (but as are most of shack news threads). Its like trying to understand a conversation with 300 people carrying on different conversations in the same room. Anyway, I am strongly favoring DNF. The other good point made was this thread still exists =)




I thought George's comments were quite clear, if you followed the thread.

Someone commented about how 3DR will sent articles and probably only 2 screen shots of Prey, George stated that they were sending more than 2. His comments had nothing to do with anything but the user's comments about the upcoming Prey article in PC Gamer. The person thought only 2 shots would be sent, George corrected him. But only to do with Prey, that's it. Follow the thread back to the original comments...

<font color="yellow">matthaeus:</font> <font color="#aaaaaa">in the end it'll be 5 concept arts and 2 screenshots from prey, among with some info about the game basic plot and a developer interview</font>

<font color="yellow">GeorgeB3DR:</font> <font color="#aaaaaa">We sent them more than 2 shots http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif</font>

a bunch of comments follow, people get over excited and then George comments again...

<font color="yellow">GeorgeB3DR:</font> <font color="#aaaaaa">You fellas did read the post I replied too, right? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Not that I want to get between you and your, um, hapiness http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif</font>

[pjohnsonjr]

AgentSmith21 said:
Hehe yeah Sierra games always took the cake.

But DNF will be wonderful. I love the fact that it was on the cover of PCGamer in 1997.



Too bad Vivendi Universal bought them out and when that happened, Papyrus went so no more Nascar Racing (which beats the pants off of EA's game). Alot of the orignal game titles have been scrapped, so no more Gabriel Knights or anything else... They're just going to subject us to crap like 50 Cent the game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif...

[jet jaguar 2.0]

50 cent the game...I bet an EA exec already has a whole marketing plan in place.

[Asmodeusz]

Well, whatever it is DNF or Prey, I'll be happy.

[lonestar]

well, it's a safe bet that it will be prey. speculations are about that other "world exclusive"

[85pHotpot]

I personally think that this speculation, which hasn't been answered or locked by 3DRealms btw, is in itself, the fabled beginning of the hype machine of which GB previously spoke. I think DNF will be out this year.

[pirateguy]

The PC Gamer exclusive will be Red Alert 3 !!

[sflufan]

The reports are that the Red Alert 3 project has been canned now that most (ie, 99%) of all former Westwood employees left EA and went to work for Petroglyph.

[thehoss]

Duke Nukem Moble...WHO CARES??
Shadow Warrior Source code...ZZZZZ
Prey...NEVER DID CARE ABOUT THIS


GIVE US DNF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quit screwin' around with other stuff.

[MegaMustaine]

pjohnsonjr said:

AgentSmith21 said:
Hehe yeah Sierra games always took the cake.

But DNF will be wonderful. I love the fact that it was on the cover of PCGamer in 1997.



Too bad Vivendi Universal bought them out and when that happened, Papyrus went so no more Nascar Racing (which beats the pants off of EA's game). Alot of the orignal game titles have been scrapped, so no more Gabriel Knights or anything else... They're just going to subject us to crap like 50 Cent the game http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif...



I love NR2003 Season, but Nascar sim racing is actually quite good with the new patch. Oh and by the way these forums have been a hype machine for quite sometime. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[theHunted]

actually now that somebody mentioned it, tomb raider sounds the most logical to me and also one of the very few worth the title "one of the biggest franchises in gaming". it really started a hype. you've seen it on regular tv shows and heard regular people talking about it. i'm not sure if duke is actually worth the title. back then computer gaming was much more of a geek hobby and certainly not as popular and "respected" in society. also, while the new tr might have been mentioned on the internet, i haven't yet seen it on any of my local mags. talking about print media it would be highly exclusive.

[FireFly]

Yeah, but we know they're showing Prey, so for Prey to be anything but a "cover feature" would be very disappointing.

[MegaMustaine]

Anybody who says tomb raider would more than likely be wrong. Not only is it not the most popular PC game in the world, but media has also been released. So there is no way that could be exclusive. Either we will finally see DNF, or they are just refering to Prey in a strange way.

[gamejunkie]

Hudson said:
Those of you who are getting your hopes up for DNF are going to be severely dissapointed.



I'm siding with Hudson on this one

[Evil Angel]

This has gone way too far and way out of context. Here's my version for what it's worth of how I think things could have gone leading up to this.

George contacts PC Gamer about featuring Prey.

PC Gamer says:- really? cool! We'll do that.

PC Gamer says:- Hang on a minute. Prey? WTF's up with Duke?

George says:- WID

PC Gamers says:- Aww C'mon man you want us to feature Prey talk about 3DR and not even mention Duke? If you give us a teeny tiny bit of new info about Duke we can use it to help hype the next issue and thus hype Prey.

George thinks about it and says:- ok.

PC Gamer take the whole new teeny tiny new bit of info and create the "world exclusive biggest franchise" blurb.

So in effect the blurb IS about Duke and it IS a world exclusive, it's just NOT screenshots, NOT a release date and NOT anything too major. It's just a small paragraph tacked on to the whole Prey preview.

Of course I could have smoked way too much this morning and it really is about Tomb Raider or something else. All I'm really sure of is that if it is Duke it's probably nothing too major.

[Tim. Just Tim.]

Does anyone know how many Duke games there have been besides Duke3d? Seems to me there have been quite a few spinoffs. I think that might qualify it as the worlds biggest game franchise or whatever it was they said. Prey is definetly not a franchise yet. As to wether PCGamer knows the definition of franchise, I don't know.

[Kristian Joensen]

As I and others have said before franchise and series is not the same. Plus, Prey will most definitely get atleast one sequel.

[Tim. Just Tim.]

Well I can think of any definition of franchise in which Prey is the biggest of anything.

[Kristian Joensen]

Did you mean can't ?

By the way, who said anything about is ? IT could jusst as well be is gonna be.

[KaiserSoze]

/walks to podium and clears throat


my fellow duke nukem forever brethren
we have treaded seas of sun drenched
sand dunes, walked in the face of hurricanes,
fought off swarms of flesh eating locusts,
come face to face with dread and despair,
yet have remained steadfast in our beliefs
and faith.

wandered over 7 years of time, not once
ever giving up hope. no, those 7 years i
say to you only made our faith stronger.
we have never given up and have always
believed.

stumbled over the scorched skeletons of
unbelieving heretics whom hope abandoned
long ago, we press on to the glory that is
our savior duke nukem.

may your ridicule and disbelief empower us
more as we journey to the golden sunset.

it is not long now. it is not long now lord duke.

please...show us a sign. show a sign to your
believing disciples lord duke.

in nukem's shadow we remain safe,

amen

[Duoae]

What's with the no capitals Kaiser?

[JackpotDen]

Baad feeling alert :

IF, you Pc gamer is as scumbaggy as you guys make it, heres something to consider.

June issue.

Whats out for [u]PC</u> in June? GTA : SA. its making a return (to pc) after ages (VC), and it is a triumph.

[Evil Angel]

Everyone knows about GTA SA for PC though. Hardly a "world exclusive announcement."

[Micki!]

If anyone gets the magazine, and if it features anything interresting, then please scan it, and show it here..? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Someone should do that regardless, since Prey info and screenshots are confirmed to be there.

[Parkar]

Micki! said:
If anyone gets the magazine, and if it features anything interresting, then please scan it, and show it here..? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif



You mean in the prey forum, right http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[AgentSmith21]

A thought. If 3DR has an agreement w/ PCGamer to let them have the "world exclusive announcement" (I'm thinking this would involve a monetary transaction) then they certainly couldn't/wouldn't say on this message board, "Yeah, that's going to be us." That info would QUICKLY spread around the internet and suddenly PCGamer no longer has the exclusive announcement.

[Micki!]

Parkar said:

Micki! said:
If anyone gets the magazine, and if it features anything interresting, then please scan it, and show it here..? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif



You mean in the prey forum, right http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Yes and no...
This thread's subject is about that magazine...
So it belongs here...
But also, if there is any information about Prey, then it belongs in the Prey forums...

So it should be posted in both here and there... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[klatch]

Damien_Azreal said:
Here's what is on the last page of PC Gamer...

"In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

Read into what you will.



Might I remind you people that it says "franchises in PC gaming", rather than "game franchise"? There's quite a difference. If this quote is accurate, this might very well refer to 3DRealms, and perhaps whatever's left of Apogee in it.



AgentSmith21 said:
A thought. If 3DR has an agreement w/ PCGamer to let them have the "world exclusive announcement" (I'm thinking this would involve a monetary transaction) then they certainly couldn't/wouldn't say on this message board, "Yeah, that's going to be us." That info would QUICKLY spread around the internet and suddenly PCGamer no longer has the exclusive announcement.


..but wasn't this obvious from the start? Why else would GB say to wait for the exclusive before they start answering questions?

[Vexed]

Might I remind you people that it says "franchises in PC gaming", rather than "game franchise"? There's quite a difference. If this quote is accurate, this might very well refer to 3DRealms, and perhaps whatever's left of Apogee in it.


No, it says one of the biggest franchises. I don't know how franchise(s) can refer to a game development company either way.

[AgentSmith21]

Why else would GB say to wait for the exclusive before they start answering questions?



When did he say this?

[The Gentle Ruffian]

KaiserSoze said:
/walks to podium and clears throat


my fellow duke nukem forever brethren
we have treaded seas of sun drenched
sand dunes, walked in the face of hurricanes,
fought off swarms of flesh eating locusts,
come face to face with dread and despair,
yet have remained steadfast in our beliefs
and faith.

wandered over 7 years of time, not once
ever giving up hope. no, those 7 years i
say to you only made our faith stronger.
we have never given up and have always
believed.

stumbled over the scorched skeletons of
unbelieving heretics whom hope abandoned
long ago, we press on to the glory that is
our savior duke nukem.

may your ridicule and disbelief empower us
more as we journey to the golden sunset.

it is not long now. it is not long now lord duke.

please...show us a sign. show a sign to your
believing disciples lord duke.

in nukem's shadow we remain safe,

amen




I like you, Kaiser but do not overdo this all, please. DNF is only a game which may/may not be released. The more I see, the more I can understand how naive we all are despite our strong support for 3drealms and their policies. Have a sense of proportion, please. There are so many titles in the pipeline to be excited about.

[klatch]

Vexed said:

Might I remind you people that it says "franchises in PC gaming", rather than "game franchise"? There's quite a difference. If this quote is accurate, this might very well refer to 3DRealms, and perhaps whatever's left of Apogee in it.


No, it says one of the biggest franchises. I don't know how franchise(s) can refer to a game development company either way.


I realize management, organisation and business orientation classes are a bore in every school and language it was ever given in, but..

"..One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return.."


..if I say Atari is a franchise, you say..? Please don't make me refer to a dictionary. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

EDIT:
Ah, and I didn't quote the "one of" because I only needed to emphasize on what came after the word "franchise(s)". Sorry for the confusion. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif




AgentSmith21 said:

Why else would GB say to wait for the exclusive before they start answering questions?



When did he say this?


http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/sh...true#Post827563 (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=prey&Number=827563&Searchpage=1&Main=827319&Words=+George+Broussard&topic=&Search=true#Post827563)
Hmmm, I wasn't precise, he said "we'll talk more".

[Jamin]

The most important thing now is.......

When will it hit news stands and when will it hit mailboxes?

I know people have talked already about how late they recieve thier magazine at home, BUT, does anyone know what the release date is so that we can go to the store and see if any of this is real?

Thanks.

[KaiserSoze]

The Gentle Ruffian said:


I like you, Kaiser but do not overdo this all, please. DNF is only a game which may/may not be released. The more I see, the more I can understand how naive we all are despite our strong support for 3drealms and their policies. Have a sense of proportion, please. There are so many titles in the pipeline to be excited about.



i hear ya. tis what i do when i start getting impatient.

form of therapy i guess.

i'm a complete nut. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Elmurfud]

klatch said:

Vexed said:

Might I remind you people that it says "franchises in PC gaming", rather than "game franchise"? There's quite a difference. If this quote is accurate, this might very well refer to 3DRealms, and perhaps whatever's left of Apogee in it.


No, it says one of the biggest franchises. I don't know how franchise(s) can refer to a game development company either way.


I realize management, organisation and business orientation classes are a bore in every school and language it was ever given in, but..

"..One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return.."


..if I say Atari is a franchise, you say..? Please don't make me refer to a dictionary. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

EDIT:
Ah, and I didn't quote the "one of" because I only needed to emphasize on what came after the word "franchise(s)". Sorry for the confusion. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif






But if they refer to a company rather then a particular game, you still must notice that the phrase "return of" implies a here-to-fore period of absence of said franchise. 3DR hasn't been abscent, they have had releases in the form of partnerships and licencee's.

Still that is a mute point in light of the minor detail that PCGamer reports on the gaming end of the business not on the business end of gaming.

So it must be a game. The only way it could refer to a company is if said company was debue-ing games in there magazine to (in a manor) announce their return.

[KaiserSoze]

please george, can we get any type of official statement saying we won't be seeing dnf for awhile yet?

[Evil Angel]

I'd prefer we left George out of this one. If there is to be [u]SOME</u> new information [u]ALONGSIDE</u> Prey in PC Gamer then it makes it impossible for him to come and say yes or no. No because it would be a lie and yes because it would spoil the surprise and the exclusivity of the PC gamer deal.

Also if George stays silent people are just going to presume that it is Duke. I'd rather not ask him so whichever way it's going to be, it stays a surprise in June. A few weeks isn't going to hurt anyone.

[Kristian Joensen]

Well the June issue of PC Gamer will apparently be out late this mont/early next month.

[Jamin]

[/QUOTE]

But if they refer to a company rather then a particular game, you still must notice that the phrase "return of" implies a here-to-fore period of absence of said franchise. 3DR hasn't been abscent, they have had releases in the form of partnerships and licencee's.

Still that is a mute point in light of the minor detail that PCGamer reports on the gaming end of the business not on the business end of gaming.

So it must be a game. The only way it could refer to a company is if said company was debue-ing games in there magazine to (in a manor) announce their return.

[/QUOTE]

You are assuming that the person who wrote it was thinking the same way that you are. They are gaming magazine editors. I don’t think they have committee meetings on how to give cryptic or precise references.

He just wrote a quick blurb that we are analyzing it for meaning. Stop the Madness.

[Elmurfud]

I wasn't assuming that at all I was basing what I said on:
1. The obvious.
2. That the blurb in question was well thought out and carefully worded by an expierianced writer.

A stretch for this magazine I realize. But it is the premier periodical of its genre. So for the sake of arguement I am giving it the benefit of the doubt.

Yes I realize it could be a grotesque exageration. Yes I realize that the writer may not have intended the blurb to be taken that way.

But I realize that pcgamer does not report on the business end of the industry I also realize that a rational mind is not often very well appretiated on this forum. So let me just say this .... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Jamin]

Elmurfud said:
I wasn't assuming that at all I was basing what I said on:
1. The obvious.
2. That the blurb in question was well thought out and carefully worded by an expierianced writer.

A stretch for this magazine I realize. But it is the premier periodical of its genre. So for the sake of arguement I am giving it the benefit of the doubt.

Yes I realize it could be a grotesque exageration. Yes I realize that the writer may not have intended the blurb to be taken that way.

But I realize that pcgamer does not report on the business end of the industry I also realize that a rational mind is not often very well appretiated on this forum. So let me just say this .... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif



Good point.

[Gryph]

Alright, this is for those lucky subscribers (I'm looking right at you kevboy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ) who got the PC Gamer, what are your thoughts and reactions to the article and the pictures?

[CD Racing ZX6R]

Drazula said:
It's Prey. It's gotta be. Not that Prey is "one of the biggest franchises". It's just that PC Gamer is a whore.

Their previews are good. The rest of the mag is only useful for wiping my butt.



Doesn’t it say franchises in gaming? As in the company’s that produce games? 3drealms is a gaming franchise. And even though Prey is an out of house title, it is still a spawn of one of the biggest franchise gaming company’s for the PC market. I think were all looking a little hard for something that isn’t there.

[CD Racing ZX6R]

klatch said:

Damien_Azreal said:
Here's what is on the last page of PC Gamer...

"In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

Read into what you will.



Might I remind you people that it says "franchises in PC gaming", rather than "game franchise"? There's quite a difference. If this quote is accurate, this might very well refer to 3DRealms, and perhaps whatever's left of Apogee in it.



AgentSmith21 said:
A thought. If 3DR has an agreement w/ PCGamer to let them have the "world exclusive announcement" (I'm thinking this would involve a monetary transaction) then they certainly couldn't/wouldn't say on this message board, "Yeah, that's going to be us." That info would QUICKLY spread around the internet and suddenly PCGamer no longer has the exclusive announcement.


..but wasn't this obvious from the start? Why else would GB say to wait for the exclusive before they start answering questions?



Doh, beat me to it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Kev_Hectic]

GryphonKlaw said:
Alright, this is for those lucky subscribers (I'm looking right at you kevboy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ) who got the PC Gamer, what are your thoughts and reactions to the article and the pictures?



Yeah, what GryphonKlaw said. I want some impressions/ and run down on what the article said.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<font color="#1F1F22">Even a few screenshots, would be nice... </font>

[lvlmaster]

Yeah someone hurry up and post some impressions....Im anxious on what you guys think http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Eclipse]

Here's the thing - thanks to a very generous person, I have scans of the articles - but I don't know whether it kosher to post them here, or even if a transcript is okay. I've PMed George, and will wait on his reply before doing anything. Fingers crossed eh?

[Gryph]

I really doubt he would agree. But you can just give your impressions.

[Eclipse]

Fair enough http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I really don't know what to say without feeling like I'm missing important parts out, but here goes.

The game sounds fantastic. The main character is called Tommy. The story looks to be very involved, serious and dark. Scott Miller said that "we know we will have achieved our goal if we get emails from players who shed tears."

The game uses the Cherokee beliefs to great effect by the looks of things, incorporating spirit guides (Talon, a childhood pet Hawk), spirit walking and death walking. The latter of these is a somewhat unique method of resurrection, meaning no annoying playing through parts of a level you've already seen.

As we knew, the tech is Doom 3. Portals are in and fully functional, along with the ability to walk on walls in certain area (instead of ladders). There are some badass looking creatures in the game, both large and small - one of which you can use as grenades http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

If it lives up to all the promises in the article - it should be one very good game indeed. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Feel free to ask me any questions http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[KaiserSoze]

^thanks eclipse!

sounds like they're really paying attention to story which can only mean good things for the game imho.

this is something hl2 was great at: the storytelling. i wanted to press on just to see what happens to gordon and his friends next. sounds like "prey" will be
the same way. good deal!

portals are in! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif oh man, that's sweet.

now, did they mention anything about the multiplayer aspect of the game and will the portals be in that mode also?

how will the portals operate? much like they did in the original? any details?

thanks again!

[Kev_Hectic]

Yeah, thanks Eclipse. I'm a little disapointed about the name change, Tommy Hawk just sounds too much like Tony Hawk for my liking. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

But the rest sounds intriguing though...


spirit walking and death walking



Did they go into any details of how this works? It kinda sounds like the after life/ real world thingy that the Soul Reaver games had.

And that's cool that they got the portal tech working. Did they say anything about the destructible enviroments? Or are those out?

[torso boy]

i wan't to see now. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Any mention of the destructability of the old engine?

[Eclipse]

KaiserSoze said:
now, did they mention anything about the multiplayer aspect of the game and will the portals be in that mode also?



No mention of multiplayer at all.


how will the portals operate? much like they did in the original? any details?



Allow me to quote from the article http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

"you can literally stand at the threshold of a portal and peer into a vastly different level beyond, then step across the threshold and 'warp' into the new space without the game skipping a beat"

"Portals can be oriented in any way, so you could walk through a portal on a wall and end up falling through a portal in the ceiling in another room" says Chris Rhinehart

That answer it for you? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Eclipse]

Kev_Hectic said:
Tommy Hawk just sounds too much like Tony Hawk for my liking. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif



Nobody said Tommy Hawk - hopefully its not.


Did they go into any details of how this works?



Yeah, spirit walking allows Tommy to leave his body, and enables him to move through solid objects - but this leaves the physical body vulnerable to attack.

Death walking occurs when you are killed, and you are transported into a spirit world where you can gain enough energy to resurrect where you died.

[Kev_Hectic]

Eclipse said:

"Portals can be oriented in any way, so you could walk through a portal on a wall and end up falling through a portal in the ceiling in another room" says Chris Rhinehart

That answer it for you? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Heh, cool. Imagine all the cool things that could be done in a game of muliplayer....

I mean, people running all over the ceilings/walls/ floors, blowing the shit out of each other. That would sound great, if multi-play makes it in it. That is.

[Damien_Azreal]

Damn, hopefully my issue will arrive tomorrow. Can't wait.

[Gryph]

Thanks a lot Eclipse!! Everything sounds great so far. Story, dark atmosphere, mysticism, and PORTALS!

One quick question, are the screenshots dark ala Doom 3 or is there some light? Does the game resemble Doom 3 (not that it's a bad thing but I just want to know)?

Thanks again. Can't wait to buy this issue.

[KaiserSoze]

^yes, i'm very interested to hear a description of the actual screenshots they have.

also to george and/or chris, once the pc gamer article is out officially, will the media blackout on the title be lifted and will we be able to ask questions here about the game where we can expect an answer if reasonable?

thanks again.

[Eclipse]

GryphonKlaw said:
One quick question, are the screenshots dark ala Doom 3 or is there some light?



Well they're not fullbright but they're certainly not pitch black either - yes its lighter than Doom 3.

There'll be no PREY IS DARK LOL jokes based on what can be seen in the article anyway!

Right, bed time for me - will answer anything else tomorrow http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kev_Hectic]

Eclipse said:
Nobody said Tommy Hawk - hopefully its not.



Ah. With all the Tommy Hawk talk going around on these boards, I guess I just jumped to conclusions.




Yeah, spirit walking allows Tommy to leave his body, and enables him to move through solid objects - but this leaves the physical body vulnerable to attack.
.
Death walking occurs when you are killed, and you are transported into a spirit world where you can gain enough energy to resurrect where you died.



Hmmm... death walking does sound a lot like what was in the Soul Reaver games. But I'm not saying that as a bad thing though, It could be pretty cool, actually.

It definitly sounds like they're making more then a generic FPS with a Native American theme attached to it.

[Gryph]

Thanks for the screenshot info, much appreciated. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Beelze]

Eclipse said:
The story looks to be very involved, serious and dark. Scott Miller said that "we know we will have achieved our goal if we get emails from players who shed tears."


Now I'm interested.

[The Count]

Eclipse said:
Fair enough http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I really don't know what to say without feeling like I'm missing important parts out, but here goes.

The game sounds fantastic. The main character is called Tommy. The story looks to be very involved, serious and dark. Scott Miller said that "we know we will have achieved our goal if we get emails from players who shed tears."

The game uses the Cherokee beliefs to great effect by the looks of things, incorporating spirit guides (Talon, a childhood pet Hawk), spirit walking and death walking. The latter of these is a somewhat unique method of resurrection, meaning no annoying playing through parts of a level you've already seen.

As we knew, the tech is Doom 3. Portals are in and fully functional, along with the ability to walk on walls in certain area (instead of ladders). There are some badass looking creatures in the game, both large and small - one of which you can use as grenades http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

If it lives up to all the promises in the article - it should be one very good game indeed. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Feel free to ask me any questions http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



COOL! Sounds very promising and inventive to me ! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
that`s what I love about 3DR-games ! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[lonestar]

portals. they are indeed in. i can't wait to see that in motion!

well.. i'm very pleased with the info.

thanks.

[Ronald McDonald]

OMG http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif I have seen the pcgamer june edition http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The models are very hig-res, luckeliy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
In the liquid dev demo reel you can see a big untextured model half-monster half-human.
That one is in, and man it's cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Haven't read it yet, but I will give more info if you want.

EDIT: btw the lobster like thingie in the DNF E3 2001 trailer is probably a organic grenade. Prey has one too. It reads "your grenades are living critters. Pluck off a leg to start a countdown to an organic explosion".
It looks very crustacian (sp?) like http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Duoae]

I can't wait!

BTW, everyone is up much too late. Get yourselves to bed!

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[lonestar]

Ronald McDonald said:
OMG http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif I have seen the pcgamer june edition http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The models are very hig-res, luckeliy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
In the liquid dev demo reel you can see a big untextured model half-monster half-human.
That one is in, and man it's cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif




http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif that's awesome! i love this thing. i said in another thread that this guy looks really cool and would fit into quake 4. it's clearly the most impressive one of these characters. wow.. i can't wait to see this game.

what about sidekicks, scenarios, movement options, graphical updates and release?

[trackit]

cmoon guys!! dont be such a *****s... post some scans or links to them http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Duoae]

I find it amazing that the people who subscribe to the magazine get it so early! I mean, Come on. Normally a magazine is out half-way through the month before, not a month and a half!

Oops, forgot to post the point of my post. LOL

Anyway, the point was, "How good do the magazine expect to be with their news reporting, gaming previews and stuff?" It's all two months out of date.

[Parkar]

As have been manetioned before the pc gamer calendar has 13 months http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif and this is why the issues comes out so early.

[Ronald McDonald]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif that's awesome! i love this thing. i said in another thread that this guy looks really cool and would fit into quake 4. it's clearly the most impressive one of these characters. wow.. i can't wait to see this game.

what about sidekicks, scenarios, movement options, graphical updates and release?



The girl with ponytails is possesed by an alien force and is part of a "group of little blond girls". They kill people and they probably have psychic powers.

One scenario was described. The main characters grandpa has a bar in a Cherokee reservation.
The bar gets robbed by an aliens in a spaceship (sounds corny, but I'll wait and see first). Everybody gets abducted, especially Tommy's girlfriend.
The spaceship stays close to earth and post a great threat. The earth is in peril and Tommy is out to save his girl and save the world. I think most of the game is on the spaceship.

There are no stairs. You can walk straight up the walls and ceiling by using "wall walk paths". It's said it creates a 4th dimension in mutliplayer.

The D3 engine is heavily modified to create portals and bigger and lighter enviroments. Yes, the portals are dynamic.

PCGamer thinks a end of 2005 release is very realistic.

That's about it.

EDIT: more

If you get killed or die, you'll become a spirit. You get to hunt some spirital beast with a bow to gain live-energie.
When you have enough, you return to the place you died. Thus absoleting quicksave quickload.

[Parkar]

Sounds like this game is going to be a bit of a diffrent experience then the common fps. I am realy interested to see how all the these cool gamplay fetures will turn out.

Any screens of the "real" world and how well do they look?

[Ronald McDonald]

Parkar said:
Sounds like this game is going to be a bit of a diffrent experience then the common fps. I am realy interested to see how all the these cool gamplay fetures will turn out.

Any screens of the "real" world and how well do they look?



No real world screens. There is "outworld" surface screen with you in a sort of ship blasting another ship.

[trackit]

UUkey guys, here it comes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

Edit: Link removed at the request of PC Gamer.

enjoy!!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Gamebrain]

trackit said:
UUkey guys, here it comes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

Edit: Link removed at the request of PC Gamer.

enjoy!!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



THANK YOU!

[pjohnsonjr]

You know...

I'm tempted... But I'll dutifully take part in the capitalism of our prized free market system and buy it when it hits newstands, it might be a decent game mag compared to the others... Who knows... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

[X-Vector]

Oh boy...

I already had my misgivings when I read which engine this game is built on, but it turns out even worse than I expected - totally looks like a DooM III mod.

As far as I'm concerned this should have stayed where it belonged: six feet under.

[Ronald McDonald]

Naysayer burn in HELL http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Rider]

Ronald McDonald said:
Naysayer burn in HELL http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif



Indeed!

Prey will rock! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif for 3DR! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[X-Vector]

You know, as much as new games increasinlgy leave me cold, seeing those screens just makes me want to scream obscenities in a random direction.

3DR is of course entitled to do with its IP what it wants, but I could have done without a reminder of a game that used to mean something to me (more than DNF at the time, actually), only to be presented with something that at least visually resembles the antithesis of what I once hoped it would be.

Simply a case of personal disappointment, nothing more.

[Ronald McDonald]

Than read the article instead of just judge it by the screens. Makes it a bit more interessting to me, anywayz http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif