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Scream
04-18-2005, 04:11 PM
Mozilla flaws could allow attacks, data access (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5674883.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed)

Hudson
04-18-2005, 05:25 PM
Already patched it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Scream
04-18-2005, 05:33 PM
Hudson said:
Already patched it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/thumbsup.gif

Ivan
04-18-2005, 06:57 PM
Hudson said:
Already patched it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



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NetNessie
04-18-2005, 09:19 PM
I dont get the reason why people post topics like these. If they discovered a new flaw in IE (seems to happen on a weekly basis) no one would post a topic.

Seems like FireFox flame bait.

Scream
04-18-2005, 09:42 PM
NetNessie said:
I dont get the reason why people post topics like these. If they discovered a new flaw in IE (seems to happen on a weekly basis) no one would post a topic.

Seems like FireFox flame bait.



I wouldn't post about a flaw in IE because people have grown to expect flaws in MS based products, MS flaws get a lot of press, and Microsoft has a fairly robust method of patching now with automatic Windows Update in XP SP2. The Windows users here know enough to patch their machines, and many of them probably have Windows Update simply do it for them. If you compare a firewall log from a year ago with one today, you'd know that MSes efforts with SP2, as well as their new practice of including a malicious software removal tool in each batch of critical updates (to purge Netsky, Bagle, and other common viruses) is doing a good job with the mess that developed with online traffic pre-SP2. The difference is night and day.

Conversely, there are a lot of Firefox and Mozilla users (perhaps not here) who operate under the misconception that their browser is perfect (because that's what the hype has told them and they don't know enough to know that all software has bugs, and that all bugs are security holes), and may not look for news of problems with it. With 10% market share, Firefox is not being used just by techie-geeks anymore. The commoners have their hands on it.

Firefox and Mozilla do not have an automatic update system similar to Windows Update (yet), so given that it actually requires user interaction to keep their browser patched, it is important that people be informed, especially since the browser has captured close to 10% of the browser market. If it's market share continues to grow, we'll start seeing some "Firefox viruses" which makes unpatched browsers a liability to the Internet community as a whole, as Microsoft's history has taught us. Why should Firefox users make the same mistake as IE users have in the past (ie. remaining ignorant of the issues in their software).

rg3
04-19-2005, 07:34 AM
Scream said:
Firefox and Mozilla do not have an automatic update system similar to Windows Update (yet)

That is only partially true, as Firefox should inform you of available updates and be patched with a couple of clicks. Right now (IIRC), they don't inmediatelly put the updates up because of bandwidth problems, but I could be wrong.

Raidomarek
04-19-2005, 07:59 AM
omfg minor flaw in FF?
OMFG N00000

Ill be using IE since now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Maren Gnawol
04-19-2005, 10:06 AM
http://img252.echo.cx/img252/6150/results0nx.gif

Firefox (http://secunia.com/product/4227/)
Opera (http://secunia.com/product/761/)

There are many other reasons to go Opera, but if security is your main concern, you know what to do.

IHerman
04-19-2005, 12:41 PM
Scream said:
Mozilla flaws could allow attacks, data access (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5674883.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed)

My computer is such a mess, hackers wouldn't even know where to look.

pjohnsonjr
04-19-2005, 02:56 PM
IHerman said:

Scream said:
Mozilla flaws could allow attacks, data access (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5674883.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed)

My computer is such a mess, hackers wouldn't even know where to look.



Same here lol

Kevin Wolff
04-19-2005, 04:24 PM
Maren Gnawol said:
http://img252.echo.cx/img252/6150/results0nx.gif

Firefox (http://secunia.com/product/4227/)
Opera (http://secunia.com/product/761/)

There are many other reasons to go Opera, but if security is your main concern, you know what to do.


Interestingly, Opera 8 just came out, and the website doesn't work very well. The Windows downloads are hosted somewhere else....but the rest are hosted right there...go figure.

Maren Gnawol
04-19-2005, 04:28 PM
Kevin Wolff said:

Maren Gnawol said:
http://img252.echo.cx/img252/6150/results0nx.gif

Firefox (http://secunia.com/product/4227/)
Opera (http://secunia.com/product/761/)

There are many other reasons to go Opera, but if security is your main concern, you know what to do.


Interestingly, Opera 8 just came out, and the website doesn't work very well. The Windows downloads are hosted somewhere else....but the rest are hosted right there...go figure.



The site works flawlessy here (what kind of problems are you having?) and most important, how does that affect the browser's functionality?.

Kevin Wolff
04-19-2005, 04:41 PM
I'm timing out clicking any link other than those labeled "Windows."

As for the browser...nothing. I'm just pointing that out, because I wanted to try it, or at least read about it. Can't right now.

EDIT: very bottom of the page. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Odin
04-19-2005, 05:59 PM
The graphs you showed us do not say that Opera is better than Firefox, but that Firefox us ers simply do not have the patches. The problem is not the functionality of the software itself, but communication.

Maren Gnawol
04-19-2005, 08:13 PM
Odin said:
The graphs you showed us do not say that Opera is better than Firefox, but that Firefox us ers simply do not have the patches. The problem is not the functionality of the software itself, but communication.



First off, I didn't post the graphics to show how Opera is better than Firefox in all aspects (which it is), their sole purpose was letting people know that Opera is actually and currently more secure (if you don't agree, I urge you to find the "these graphics show how Opera is better than Firefox overally" comment)

A browser that remains unpatched for this long compromising users' security isn't my cup of tea anyways. As for the "functionality" and "communication", I'd like to read more about them if possible.

Sith
04-21-2005, 08:30 AM
I patched the newest firefox update a day or two ago. In the past 24 hours I've been experiencing several pop-ups when using Firefox. Is there a connection? Anyone else have this problem?

Jeff
04-21-2005, 12:26 PM
I just got Firefox 1.03. I'm sure that will solve it. Or maybe 1.04 will.

NetNessie
04-30-2005, 10:40 AM
IE < FireFox < Opera

Is how you see it, but this is how I see it:

Free > Free > Money

Piano Man
05-02-2005, 08:44 PM
Has anyone else had this problem... In FireFox, when I visit certain forum sites, the Windows closes automatically or attemps to close (and usually I have more than 1 window open all the time) so it asks me CONSTANTLY if I want to close.

WHen I clicked here: Weird Bug... (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=822271&an=0&page=0#822271)

Try opening it and if It asks you to exit... I'd like to know... It's driving me MAD.

NetNessie
05-03-2005, 08:33 AM
Piano Man said:
Try opening it and if It asks you to exit... I'd like to know... It's driving me MAD.



Works fine for me (and remember firefox eats my bookmarks on a monthly basis)

I still stand by my flying space fox. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Odin
05-04-2005, 08:31 PM
Maren Gnawol said:
First off, I didn't post the graphics to show how Opera is better than Firefox in all aspects (which it is)




He also said this:
There are many other reasons to go Opera, but if security is your main concern, you know what to do.



Sounded like you were using the graphs to say that Opera is better than Firefox. While it may work best for you (and if it does, good for you), I see nothing in the graphs that says that Opera is better than Firefox, simply that more people are updated. As I said before, the main problem is communication.