O.k. Human Head and 3DR-start talkin'!

[KaiserSoze]

The pictures/article are all over the net now. The PC Gamer has indeed hit subscriber's hands.

Ain't it fair game for you guys to start talking about it here?

Is it too early to ask for videos, better quality screenshots and such?

Videos I could understand maybe waiting till e3 if it's an "exclusive" type thing for a vendor. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Screenshots we could use for wallpapers and such!

Way to go Human Head and 3dr, let us know when pre-orders start! You've got 1 sold already. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Eclipse]

Hell, seeing as we're talking about releasing stuff, lets talk about LamePrey... nah just kidding :P

Nicer quality versions of the screenshots in PC Gamer would certainly be nice though http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[trackit]

i think they will start to talk in a week or so...

but i guess we will not see a video before E3 though...

[KaiserSoze]

screenshots!

photos are from pc gamer magazine and are posted here for purposes of promotion and review.

http://www.pcgamer.com

"Prey" is copyright and trademark of 3drealms and Human Head Studios.

Edit: Links removed at the request of PC Gamer.

[Duoae]

KaiserSoze said:
The pictures/article are all over the net now. The PC Gamer has indeed hit subscriber's hands.

Ain't it fair game for you guys to start talking about it here?

Is it too early to ask for videos, better quality screenshots and such?

Videos I could understand maybe waiting till e3 if it's an "exclusive" type thing for a vendor. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Screenshots we could use for wallpapers and such!

Way to go Human Head and 3dr, let us know when pre-orders start! You've got 1 sold already. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Surely they have to wait until all the "exclusive" requirements are met. Maybe they cannot break silence until all issues have officiall gone on sale. As far as i was aware, the scans were from a subscriber....

[KaiserSoze]

Duoae said:
Surely they have to wait until all the "exclusive" requirements are met. Maybe they cannot break silence until all issues have officiall gone on sale. As far as i was aware, the scans were from a subscriber....



actually, i believe the screenshots are fair game now that they are in the hands of the public(subscribers or non, it doesn't matter).

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[lonestar]

kaiser, if you would think logical, you would realise that this is not going to happen since the current pc gamer isn't on the market yet. why should they generate such hype, and giving us reasons to buy their mag, when it's released officially all over the net, anyway.

look what pc gamer wrote about dnf's statues, and just keep in mind that 3drealms finally unveiled it to journalists. it can't be too long anymore, 'til we get to see dnf.

[KaiserSoze]

lonestar-the magazine is available right now to subscribers. even though it may not be on sale yet in stores, the magazine is out in the public now.

imho, the pc gamer article is a kick off for the hype. it's out now so my opinion is they should be able to start talking about it now.

or does that not make sense? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Tim. Just Tim.]

Still looks very much like Doom3 except with a little more light. Are these 2 jpgs all there is to show? One of them starts in the middle of a sentance and it seems like something is missing.

[Lengis]

http://www.hot.ee/trackit/PreyDNF.pdf

Full preview.

[Drazula]

Thanks for the preview Lengis. What can I say? Dynamic portals, engaging story and it looks great (especially the Hunters!) It's everything I hoped for from Prey. I can't wait!!


KaiserSoze said:
Ain't it fair game for you guys to start talking about it here?


I'll hold GB down and you give'im a "pink belly" until he talks. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[The Count]

Drazula said:
Thanks for the preview Lengis. What can I say? Dynamic portals, engaging story and it looks great (especially the Hunters!) It's everything I hoped for from Prey. I can't wait!!


KaiserSoze said:
Ain't it fair game for you guys to start talking about it here?


I'll hold GB down and you give'im a "pink belly" until he talks. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



I would like to see screenshots of that !! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[JackpotDen]

Tim. Just Tim. said:
Still looks very much like Doom3 except with a little more light.



Agreed.

Also, with the "No real grav", theres going to be a shitload of "spider man campers" who hide in a corner in the celing.

[Parkar]

As I have undrstod it you can only run on wall/ceiling were those walk paths are.

[John]

Wow, I was right.

Every game made with the Doom 3 engine looks exactly like Doom 3. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[George Broussard]

John said:
Wow, I was right.

Every game made with the Doom 3 engine looks exactly like Doom 3. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif


Haha, that's not exactly the case, but it's just coincidence that Doom 3, Quake 4 and Prey are all kind of set in similar places with similar themes. I'm sure the gameplay of each, will differentiate them.

[John]

I really hope, man. I really hope.

[brabee]

I dont get it - I mean their politics. It sucks. Why should PCGamer know anything earlier than fans? Actually, it looks that PCGamer knows things that even 3DR or HH dont know - look at their websites - where is ANY info about Prey?
I ask you, 3DR and HH, why do you prefer to give information to a magazine, instead of giving them to us, gamers, who will (?) buy and PAY the game?

[John]

brabee said:
I dont get it - I mean their politics. It sucks. Why should PCGamer know anything earlier than fans? Actually, it looks that PCGamer knows things that even 3DR or HH dont know - look at their websites - where is ANY info about Prey?
I ask you, 3DR and HH, why do you prefer to give information to a magazine, instead of giving them to us, gamers, who will (?) buy and PAY the game?



Because PCGamer (and others) are the magazines that gamers buy. They read an article about the game, and then they wanna buy it. It's simple.

Not every single gamer reads these forums. But most DO buy gaming magazines.

[Malgon]

Hello George! I always wanted to post after you! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

But seriously i agree its just not the engine but the art direction, that makes games look similar. You cant always say that it looks the same cause the engine is the same. The art direction (textures, lightning, geometry) all make up the feel of the game, and hey its Sci-fi its all going to be similar looking eventually! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Malgon]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif all these people posted before me! i wanted to be next in line to George! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[John]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif well he was replying to me so I wanted to reply back.

[Yenz]

George Broussard said:

John said:
Wow, I was right.

Every game made with the Doom 3 engine looks exactly like Doom 3. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif


Haha, that's not exactly the case, but it's just coincidence that Doom 3, Quake 4 and Prey are all kind of set in similar places with similar themes. I'm sure the gameplay of each, will differentiate them.


Nah, I don't think it is. You chose engine after what you like the game to look like and do. And space/alien games are suited well for the D3 engine. I dont' think Duke would fit in D3 engine. For Duke the Unreal is much better. But just my opinion.

[brabee]

I know that. But is PCGamer the only mag? Or is it available everywhere? Sure not here, in the Czech republic... But almost every gamer has an internet connection, and I believe there is much more of these gamers than the those who buy PCG.
I tell ya, its all exclusivity thing, the rest will have to wait until E3. But maybe I'll be surprised...

[John]

Well, did 3D Realms decide what engine Prey would use, or did HumanHead studios?

Let's all just be glad DNF isn't using the D3 engine. Draz would be the only one excited. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[John]

brabee said:
I know that. But is PCGamer the only mag? Or is it available everywhere? Sure not here, in the Czech republic... But almost every gamer has an internet connection, and I believe there is much more of these gamers than the those who buy PCG.
I tell ya, its all exclusivity thing, the rest will have to wait until E3. But maybe I'll be surprised...



Well...they figured after giving PCG an exclusive look at both DNF and Prey, the word would get out on the internet (especially after the issue hits stands.) and thus, gamers on the internet will get hyped up about it.

It's better for all gamers in the longrun.

[Malgon]

Thats an interesting question John. I guess it would have been a collaboration between both companies about what was available at the time, what they wanted to do with the engine, and sorts of crazy stuff like that. It sounds like these wall-walking features and portals are integral to the gameplay AND fun of the game, rather than just some gimmick. Well at least I hope. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Joe Siegler]

John said:

brabee said:
I dont get it - I mean their politics. It sucks. Why should PCGamer know anything earlier than fans? Actually, it looks that PCGamer knows things that even 3DR or HH dont know - look at their websites - where is ANY info about Prey?
I ask you, 3DR and HH, why do you prefer to give information to a magazine, instead of giving them to us, gamers, who will (?) buy and PAY the game?



Because PCGamer (and others) are the magazines that gamers buy. They read an article about the game, and then they wanna buy it. It's simple.

Not every single gamer reads these forums. But most DO buy gaming magazines.



Exactly. Forum folks seem to forget that there's a larger audience than those that hang out on forums. There's a lot of folks whose sole information pipeline is magazines.

And besides, it's not like the info isn't getting to you anyway. As for the ultimate why, you'd have to ask George, I just work here. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[John]

Yeah man, that's what I meant with my other post (as to, nomatter what the informations gonna hit the internet.)

So no matter what, we're going to get the info. Just chill guys http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[theRobot]

Joe3DR said:
... you'd have to ask George, I just work here. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



AHA! Another one claiming they were "..just doing my job."

((Just messing, Prey looks awesome...))

[Cerberus_e]

Lengis said:

Edit: Removed at the request of PC Gamer.

Full preview.



is the DNF story what I read on the last page of that pdf? or is there a seperate article somewhere?
and someone has the lost coast article? I only have the one of previous pc gamer

and is DNF going to be showed first in a magazine first? or will 3drelmas release a movie or screenshots on fileshack for example?
of course don't host them here or we won't have forums http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Parkar]

Thats all the DNF info in there.

[brabee]

Yeah but there's a lot of folks whose information pipeline is primary internet. All I want to say is that you shouldn prefer any group of fans.
Anyway, none of this matters as much as the release itself. But if PCG readers will konw about the date earlier that I do, Im gonna kill someone:)
BTW, is there any release date? If you say WID, I wont ask again. Thx

[The Count]

Malgon said:
Hello George! I always wanted to post after you! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

But seriously i agree its just not the engine but the art direction, that makes games look similar. You cant always say that it looks the same cause the engine is the same. The art direction (textures, lightning, geometry) all make up the feel of the game, and hey its Sci-fi its all going to be similar looking eventually! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif



Gameplay is also the thing that cuts it. I mean, the storyline, settings and characters of Prey are really inventive. And something like "death-walking" surely hasn`t been done before. Very different from Doom3 which mainly was a remake of a classic game, but still very good.
And one should also keep in mind that Human Head didn`t get a fully worked out engine to start with and to modify to the max. They got updates from id as Doom3 also was still in development until 2004. No wonder that Prey can`t look extremely different and it doesn`t matter much.
I also think that Prey`s overall mood is deliberately set a bit in contrary to DNF.

[Kristian Joensen]

WID, PC Gamer thinks late this year.

[Skinner]

I am a subscriber to PC Gamer and didn't get the 'Prey issue' in the mail today. However, I did see the scans that everyone is talking about and all I can say is... WOW. Stunning. Graphics are one thing, but the game play elements caught my attention. It's like a hot chick. You may want to do nasty dirty things with her, but if she says she doesn't burp or fart...then she isn't funny and is probably boring.

Based on what I've read about Prey in the PC Gamer issue, I will gladly walk into a store wearing nothing but a banana hammock and purchase Prey.


- SKINNER

[Duoae]

George Broussard said:
Haha, that's not exactly the case, but it's just coincidence that Doom 3, Quake 4 and Prey are all kind of set in similar places with similar themes. I'm sure the gameplay of each, will differentiate them.



Sci-fi is the best theme..... i mean, there are too many "real-life" war "sims" featuring vietnam or ww2 or somesuch.... but sci-fi is the last great unknown, even if a lot of our artistic tendancies tend to head towards the popular current day vision of "the future".

I bet that if many futuristic games had been made in the 50/60's, then a lot of games would still look similar, just with the pop culture themes generated by the then current artists of the era.

In ten years time, there will be a new phase of futuristic art. None of it is bad, just that, like music and fashion, games follow a trend that cannot be escaped because the resources that developers draw upon will undoubtedly be the same......

[EDIT]
I would say that for the last 10 years we've been riding on the post-apocalytic/industricalistic/organic Aliens/Predator/Bladerunner style of popular future. IMO, artistic-wise, the Star Trek utopia is the minority of future "views" and it is a much older popular conception...

[Cerberus_e]

yeah, and the best of sci-fi is when they actually EXPLAIN it in terms of science (that's why it's called SCIENCE fiction)

for example "this makes a machine invulnerable, it works like this: blablabla molecular structure is regular, making it very strong, so it's in fact invulnjerable blablabla ions electrons protons blabla neutrons...."
if they don't explain it it's not fun. also it should make sense, but realisable is something different http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Duoae]

Cerberus_e said:
yeah, and the best of sci-fi is when they actually EXPLAIN it in terms of science (that's why it's called SCIENCE fiction)

for example "this makes a machine invulnerable, it works like this: blablabla molecular structure is regular, making it very strong, so it's in fact invulnjerable blablabla ions electrons protons blabla neutrons...."
if they don't explain it it's not fun. also it should make sense, but realisable is something different http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Huh? I was just expanding on what George said about the themes that were common inbetween those three modern games...

[John]

Some of the old Prey videos/screenshots showed modern day rooms though. Chairs, desks, lights, etc. All that you would see in a real room.

Now it looks like there wont be ANY "realistic" environments.

[Parkar]

Yes you start on earth as mentioned in pcgamer but it seams like you wil only be there for a very short time.

[5ththrax]

OMG!!! im so pissed, i just went to the store and bough PCGAMER.....too bad it wuz the may 2005 issue....NO PREY!!! ah i just order the 12 issues, 12 cd's for $19.95....they better send it

[John]

Is that the issue with the preview for the Hellfire game, created by the Diablo team?

Be glad! That games gonna rock.

[Crosma]

Joe3DR said:
Exactly. Forum folks seem to forget that there's a larger audience than those that hang out on forums. There's a lot of folks whose sole information pipeline is magazines.


This reads as misleading to me (mainly in the context of what John said), not that I'm trying to read between the lines.

Gaming magazines have a tiny readership compared to websites. Most magazines print last issues' sales in them, and it's always a figure that any respectable gaming site would laugh at. Especially PC magazines. So, really, if you want more people to see screenshots then post them online. Although, as you know, other people have done that part for you.

Anyway, the larger audience choose games via. word of mouth. The press (online and off) only act as a catalyst.

[Joe Siegler]

You still get the news though, don't you? There's really no point in arguing over who gets it first (of which I'm somewhat guilty myself).

[Hudson]

Joe3DR said:
You still get the news though, don't you?



I get a lot of info from gaming mags.

[Lengis]

Joe3DR said:

John said:

brabee said:
I dont get it - I mean their politics. It sucks. Why should PCGamer know anything earlier than fans? Actually, it looks that PCGamer knows things that even 3DR or HH dont know - look at their websites - where is ANY info about Prey?
I ask you, 3DR and HH, why do you prefer to give information to a magazine, instead of giving them to us, gamers, who will (?) buy and PAY the game?



Because PCGamer (and others) are the magazines that gamers buy. They read an article about the game, and then they wanna buy it. It's simple.

Not every single gamer reads these forums. But most DO buy gaming magazines.



Exactly. Forum folks seem to forget that there's a larger audience than those that hang out on forums. There's a lot of folks whose sole information pipeline is magazines.

And besides, it's not like the info isn't getting to you anyway. As for the ultimate why, you'd have to ask George, I just work here. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



I think the answer is obvious. PCGamer paid them. Print magazines have to compete intensely with web based publications, and exclusive stories are gold for them.

[Claws]

What Joe is saying is we still get the info anyway and those suckers at PC Gamer end up paying 3DR for the exclusive, so everybody wins. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[George Broussard]

I think the answer is obvious. PCGamer paid them.


Completely, totally, universally, cosmically - <font color="red"> FALSE.</font>


Print magazines have to compete intensely with web based publications, and exclusive stories are gold for them.


I don't believe anyone gets paid for previews. I've never heard of a single case. Ever.

People do covers because they are something tangible.

[Lengis]

George Broussard said:

I think the answer is obvious. PCGamer paid them.


Completely, totally, universally, cosmically - <font color="red"> FALSE.</font>



Wait, so lemme get this straight. You are saying...... I'm wrong? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Steve]

Is the game interactive? Because 3DR to me means interactivity. No interactivity... no buy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[hell-angel]

Lengis said:

George Broussard said:

I think the answer is obvious. PCGamer paid them.


Completely, totally, universally, cosmically - <font color="red"> FALSE.</font>



Wait, so lemme get this straight. You are saying...... I'm wrong? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Don't say you are suprised, when where you ever right??


http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[trackit]

Actually i thought also that magazines have to pay for exclusive storys... Otherwise what will guarantee that the sroty is exclusive??

[Lengis]

^ My thoughts exactly

If they don't have to pay, why not give the full story and screens to multiple news sources like CGW, gamespot, and IGN? It's more coverage, and free advertising so why not?

[pjohnsonjr]

It's at the discrepency of the publisher. If they want don't want to delve information to someone they don't have to. PC Gamer probably showed interest in this game, unlike the others who probably over look this because (my theories include their heads in their ass) they wanted to or didn't want to give too much fanfare for some reason or another.

so why give information to people who aren't interested in that information? That's like trying to teach Newton's laws of physics to someone who doesn't give a damn about physics or knowing it. If they don't show interest in the information and showing it then why should they get it. PC Gamer most likely showed interest in the game and if you show interest you do get what you seek.

[Lengis]

Your theories are worse than mine

[George Broussard]

Lengis said:
^ My thoughts exactly

If they don't have to pay, why not give the full story and screens to multiple news sources like CGW, gamespot, and IGN? It's more coverage, and free advertising so why not?


Generally because it's better to trickle coverage out over time.

[pjohnsonjr]

Lengis said:
Your theories are worse than mine



I'm being logical, I don't come up with some grand conspiracy theory as to why. If we ever learned anything about the Warren Commision report is that conspiracy theories hold as much water as a boat with holes at the bottom.

[elloehpipati]

The game looks like doom 3, only with different monsters. And all this post apotaclyptic setting are starting to bore the friggin hell out of me. Its always the same old cramp corridors with loose cables and stuff sticking out, some wierd gizmos, always the same barren landscape, all these wierd grosteque monsters. And here i was hoping developers would start doing something different...

How many more Doom 3 variations do we need? How many more sci fi futuristic games based on the UT engine like pariah, advent rising, republic commando do we need? Dont even get me started on WWII games...

Theres no need to blow a hole in your pocket to buy some super duper engine to make people like your game. Look at GISH and Darwinia... those are the type of developers who will revolutionize gaming with their $50 engine, not the countless out there who are so afraid to break away from the mould and do basically the same thing over and over and over again.

[hell-angel]

You are partially right elloehpipati.

I agree that a lot of types of games are basically the same. (same type of settings/atmosphere) but they are all different in type of game play (there are few games out today that match Doom III's gameplay IMO).

DNF for example will do somethings that have not been done before (at least to this extent). The interactivity is expected to be insane (as wel as confirmed by GB a few times) and there is no game out there that I know of that has a good amount of interactivity, let alone insane.

As for prey, if the include portals like in the old prey videos, that will be a significant new feature that designers go wil over. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif (here is to hoping. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ) not to mention the other things they might have planned that we no nothing about. (it's 3DR we are talking about after all. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif )


The main reason however that the games where all the same is that for the past 5-8 years the focus of the game development where with the graphics engine. This focus is nowadays shifting back to gameplay and innovative new features. This is however a slow process which will take sometime to be noticed and these new type of games to be on the market.

Be patiend and the gaming world will rock. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Viper Knight]

It can be a good thing doing things over and over again because there is always room for improvement. Prey may very well be much the same shit we've seen before but that doesn't necessairly mean it won't be a grade A game.

[Parkar]

elloehpipati said:
The game looks like doom 3, only with different monsters. And all this post apotaclyptic setting are starting to bore the friggin hell out of me. Its always the same old cramp corridors with loose cables and stuff sticking out, some wierd gizmos, always the same barren landscape, all these wierd grosteque monsters. And here i was hoping developers would start doing something different...

How many more Doom 3 variations do we need? How many more sci fi futuristic games based on the UT engine like pariah, advent rising, republic commando do we need? Don't even get me started on WWII games...

There's no need to blow a hole in your pocket to buy some super duper engine to make people like your game. Look at GISH and Darwinia... those are the type of developers who will revolutionize gaming with their $50 engine, not the countless out there who are so afraid to break away from the mould and do basically the same thing over and over and over again.



Man I just wrote a realy long post but ***** up and its all gone http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Short version (All just my opinion)

There's not realy that many good scifi fps games being released (~1 per year), this and the next year might be a little bit of en exception(q4, prey, pharia, more?).

Seems to me like you expected prey to anything but a scifi shooter. Which was pretty clear it was going to be. Also seems like you have just simply gotten bored of fps games all together which is a normal thing to happen. Lost interest in anything RTS related a few years ago even though I have spent countless hours playing c&c, warcraft etc. I just got sick of building bases and storming an enemy base.

Revolutionary games are realy cool but I usual end enjoying the "clones" and sequels to these more since they usualy have improved the game play a lot compared to the first attempt.

Note: accidently spellchecked a few of the words in the qute.

[Kristian Joensen]

KaiserSoze said:
The pictures/article are all over the net now. The PC Gamer has indeed hit subscriber's hands.



Really, where ?

I have searched for any info I could find on google about the preview but I haven't found anything.

[KaiserSoze]

Kristian Joensen said:

KaiserSoze said:
The pictures/article are all over the net now. The PC Gamer has indeed hit subscriber's hands.



Really, where ?

I have searched for any info I could find on google about the preview but I haven't found anything.



You're not looking hard enough. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Check your p.m.

[Cerberus_e]

Kristian Joensen said:

KaiserSoze said:
The pictures/article are all over the net now. The PC Gamer has indeed hit subscriber's hands.



Really, where ?

I have searched for any info I could find on google about the preview but I haven't found anything.



you forgot to read this thread, the url is mentioned twice.
but I still don't have the lost coast article from that magazine http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif only from previous issue

[Kristian Joensen]

I have seen the preview, But I haven't raed any article or mention on any gaming news site.

[SyntaxN]

Looks very, very good, I love this graphics-style http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I don´t know if it has been posted yet, but I think this headcrap (or whatever) from the 2001 trailer is now in Prey!
You´ve too pluck of a leg and then it´s some kind of organic grenade http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Micki!]

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif
I'm going to buy this magazine JUST for the Prey article, i have to find it first though...

(and believe me, it's not that easy to find an American magazin in Denmark http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif)

[Cerberus_e]

btw, does someone have the right side of page 7 from that pdf?
it's cut in half and I'd like to read the comment and see the picture

[Ronald McDonald]

It's page 28-34 what are you talking about?

[Kristian Joensen]

He is talking about page 7 of the pdf file wich is page 32 of the magazine.

[Ronald McDonald]

Cerberus_e said:
btw, does someone have the right side of page 7 from that pdf?
it's cut in half and I'd like to read the comment and see the picture



It's misplaced. The second one above page 7.

[Cerberus_e]

what do you mean misplaced?
I mean on page 7 of that PDF, the page is incomplete, 2 pictures with comments are cut in half on the right side.
anyone has them?

[Parkar]

They are in the wrong order all pages are there though.

[Cerberus_e]

yes, all pages are there, but one of them is corrupt, incomplete, cut on the right side.
do I need stronger words to express me? I don't know a stronger word than "incomplete" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Ronald McDonald]

Cerberus_e said:
what do you mean misplaced?
I mean on page 7 of that PDF, the page is incomplete, 2 pictures with comments are cut in half on the right side.
anyone has them?



Just look at the pagenumbers at the bottem left and right. 28 29 30 33 31 32 34 SEE!!!

[Eclipse]

The bit you think is cut off is actually another page: the fifth page of the PDF - nothing is missing. Come on, it's not rocket science.

[Cerberus_e]

ah, you're right, thanks http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[laffer]

Haha http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Too tired or something? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I must be too tired, this really cracked me up http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Cerberus_e]

if you are reading on a pentium 2 350 mhz with 64 mb of ram and a resolution of 1024*768 then you CANNOT read pagenumbers because of the slowness of the computer, if you scroll down it takes 5 minutes to put the page on the screen.

[Micki!]

Damn, i drove with my brother to a another city just to get that magazine...
And when i finally found a shop who sells PCG, i realized that it was still the may issue... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

I think i'll have to wait for another week or so... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Cerberus_e]

why, you have the scans now

[Micki!]

Because my mom promised me to pay the half of the mag when i can get it... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Thriller]

Lengis said:
^ My thoughts exactly

If they don't have to pay, why not give the full story and screens to multiple news sources like CGW, gamespot, and IGN? It's more coverage, and free advertising so why not?

Giving the first exclusive for a game like this to PC Gamer is perfect. I dont really thing this had anything to do with their choice, but:

PC gamer hypes like madmen when they get an AAA title like this on their hands. Maybe to sell more future magazines? Maybe to please the developers, making them first in line next time? Maybe they just cant controll themselves? No mather what reason, given an exclusive like this, they hype it no mather how good / bad / finished / unfinished the product is.

[Kobold]

George Broussard said:

I think the answer is obvious. PCGamer paid them.


Completely, totally, universally, cosmically - <font color="red"> FALSE.</font>


Print magazines have to compete intensely with web based publications, and exclusive stories are gold for them.


I don't believe anyone gets paid for previews. I've never heard of a single case. Ever.

People do covers because they are something tangible.




EDIT: Oops, the dude is suggesting they paid YOU to get the preview? Haha...nevermind my comment, misunderstood. This is hilarious http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
"Please let us pay you to promote the game you will earn money on!"

[Kristian Joensen]

He meant that the developers/publishers don't pay them for making previews. Not that game journalists work for free.