It's the new superman

[supermeerkat]

Here (http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=994&fullsize=1)

Pretty cool. What does any one else think?

[Boo Boo Juice]

not as cool as I was hoping

[ADM]

Same.

They should of made it look more futuristic.. at the moment it looks like the tights supes had in the 80's flicks.

[ADM]

Here's the article.. Bryan Singer wanted a more classical look, which is why it looks like it does. I'm abit dissapointed actually.


First look: 'Superman Returns'
By Anthony Breznican, USA TODAY
The look of Superman literally rests on the broad and buff shoulders of newcomer Brandon Routh.
Brandon Routh: New super suit has classic look, with slightly darker colors.
Warner Bros. Entertainment

This first look at Superman Returns— due in theaters in June 2006 — shows that the skin-tight costume stretches over only the actor's muscles and frame, without the augmented armored pecs or abs of recent movie superheroes.

Director Bryan Singer famously changed the fluorescent spandex suits of the X-Men into dark, leather-like uniforms for those movies — both of them smashes that sold more than $364 million in tickets. But on Superman Returns, he says, he wanted "something classic."

Tinkering too much with a hero's suit can aggravate traditionalist comic fans, who grumbled that Jennifer Garner's Elektra wasn't wearing her midriff-baring red suit in Daredevil or that Batman's armor had nipples in Batman Forever. They aren't likely to have much to carp about with Superman Returns.

Instead of reinventing the character's appearance, Singer — via e-mail from Australia, where he's shooting the film — says he wanted to remain faithful to the previous incarnations of Superman, from the Max Fleischer cartoons of the 1940s to the black-and-white George Reeves TV show to the Christopher Reeve movies of the 1970s and '80s.

Singer decided to keep the cape, the blue body suit, the red tights — even the V-cut opening of Superman's boots.

But Superman Returns makes a few subtle changes to the suit:

• The character's S insignia is slightly smaller and higher on his chest, and instead of being painted on, it's more of a three-dimensional plate.

• The insignia is added to Superman's belt buckle.

• Costume designer Louise Mingenbach preserved the blue, red and yellow motif, but the shades are slightly darker than the bright primary colors of the comics. Superman's yellow belt is more golden, and his cape is a deep scarlet.

The key to filling it out, however, depends entirely on the physique of Routh, 25, the Iowa native who was briefly on the soap opera One Life to Live in 2001. Singer says the Superman costume wasn't complete without Routh.

"I always had the general idea of the suit. However, when the conceptual art was evolving around the same time that I cast Brandon, I privately had paintings rendered with Brandon's face, which certainly brought it to life."

Superman's body is the key to his power, Singer says.

"With X-Men, although they had extraordinary powers, they also had physical weaknesses," he says. "The suits were for protection as well as costume. Superman is the Man of Steel. Bullets bounce off him, not his suit."

What does the movie's costume say about this Superman's personality?

"He's not afraid," Singer says.

[KaiserSoze]

i'm torn. i like the classic look but was kinda expecting it to be updated.


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there's rumors the black suit with silver "s" emblem is in the movie so that's cool. sounds like supes dies in the movie which takes some of it's inspiration from the "death of superman" comic book.</td></tr></table>

thanks for the link/picture!

[Nacho]

Back in the day that looked cool to me. Now it makes me laugh even though I still think, "Hey cool! It's Superman!"

They should of used the new superman costume from some of the newer comics.

[Paroxysm]

Most awesome. Keeping it the classic design but making it real. The only thing that erks me is that it still just looks like he's got his undies on the outside. Must be hard to sell that aspect of the design in reality.

[Phait]

It'd be great if this was 1950. But it's not. It looks funny. Maybe if the blue was darker, like Spiderman blue, and more muscle definition.

[ADM]

Nacho said:
They should of used the new superman costume from some of the newer comics.



Got a pic?

[KillerByte]

ADoomedMarine said:
• The character's S insignia is slightly smaller and higher on his chest, and instead of being painted on, it's more of a three-dimensional plate.




This for me is the worst part about the costume design. The 'S' should be large and bold as this represents Superman's character.


ADoomedMarine said:
• The insignia is added to Superman's belt buckle.




I like this. It adds to the costume very well.


ADoomedMarine said:
• Costume designer Louise Mingenbach preserved the blue, red and yellow motif, but the shades are slightly darker than the bright primary colors of the comics. Superman's yellow belt is more golden, and his cape is a deep scarlet.




This was a mistake. Superman's bright primary colours make him stand out as a fighter for justice and the American way. If you remember, in Superman III his suit became darker as he spiralled deeper and deeper into evil Superman. Now, I realise that the chronology of this film ignores Superman III and IV as they never happened, but I still feel this is a big mistake.

[Tetsuro]

I agree about the S-emblem (that it should be beigger), but I am mostly bothered by the actor inside the suit. He really needs more muscle mass (I mean, c'mon, even Reeve had more than that).

[supermeerkat]

Superman's powers came from this solar system's yellow sun, not from his muscles. So, I'm not to bothered at him appearing a bit skinny.

[Tetsuro]

supermeerkat said:
Superman's powers came from this solar system's yellow sun, not from his muscles. So, I'm not to bothered at him appearing a bit skinny.


It's not the question of strength, it's the question of looks. I think he should look more like the comic book Superman (with Schwarzenegger-esque muscles).

[Kronx]

It's strange seeing the red so muted. I miss the bright red of the old movies, but I'm sure it won't be a big deal when you see it all in context.

[KillerByte]

The problem with Superman having a large frame is that Clark Kent would therefore also have a large frame. In the comic books this is hidden by the suit he wears when he works at the Daily Planet, but it is easier to portray Clark as a weakling if Superman is relatively skinny.

[Beelze]

I like it. I'm glad it's not as bright as it has been in the past. And like Singer says, the bullets bounce of him, and so I wouldn't want him in futuristic armor. I hope it gets really torn up in the movie, though.

[Opus131]

Isn't the guy a little too young ?

Maybe i'm just used to the image of Christopher Reeves and some of the comics i read, but he looks more like Super Boy then anything else... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[ADM]

Beelze said:
I like it. I'm glad it's not as bright as it has been in the past. And like Singer says, the bullets bounce of him, and so I wouldn't want him in futuristic armor. I hope it gets really torn up in the movie, though.



It wouldn't get torn up because Superman emits an aura that protects everything around him.. that's why the only thing that usually gets torn up is his cape.

[Beelze]

Really? I had no clue. Good to know. That way I can't complain about unrealism (in the context of the movie's world, that is). Guess it'd be dumb if it burned away and he stood there in the nude, anyway.

[IgWannA]

link is farked

[ADM]

http://www.leafyisle.net/dump/newsuperman.jpg

Mirrored at my site.

[Evil Angel]

That cacky browny colour on the cape is just all wrong. What's wrong with bright red?

[Marty]

the new costume looks fine i reckon. im glad they didnt do some ghey futuristic thing and wrap red cellophane completely around him and gel his hair into an aerodynamic spike

[IgWannA]

brown instead of red? why??

[Marty]

its still red, just a different type of red http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nacho]

I like it don't get me wrong. I am attached to the original superman type costume. However I know some kids will laugh at the fact it's almost like spandex.

[Marty]

did they laugh at spiderman?

if i was a superhero, id just wear tracksuit pants and an old metal shirt with moth holes in it. whatever's comfortable

[ryche]

I think the new suit looks weak.

It needs a bigger logo. Usually the small logos on the shirts are for women superheroes like Supergirl....

just my opinion.

[Nacho]

Marty said:
did they laugh at spiderman?




No, but that looks cool. The superman suit now looks kind of dated. Me picturing that in a movie now looks kind of funny. Don't get me wrong I love the suit, new one looks nice. Just I'm thinking some people who don't know much about Clark Kent or like the X-men movies might think it looks silly.

[Ivan]

Nacho said:
I like it don't get me wrong. I am attached to the original superman type costume. However I know some kids will laugh at the fact it's almost like spandex.



Well a good laugh is nothing bad, they'll laugh forget about it and enjoy the movie. I don't think it's funny though..

[KillerByte]

Nacho said:

Marty said:
did they laugh at spiderman?




No, but that looks cool. The superman suit now looks kind of dated.



The Spiderman suit used in the current movies is based on the design of the original comic book one, so surely it looks dated too?

I don't mind them using the same suit design as the original, but the small changes they have made do not look right to me.

I'm sure I'll get used to it though. After all, it is only a costume.


Nacho said:
Me picturing that in a movie now looks kind of funny. Don't get me wrong I love the suit, new one looks nice. Just I'm thinking some people who don't know much about Clark Kent or like the X-men movies might think it looks silly.



For those of you have haven't seen him as Clark, I've attached an image below.

[Tetsuro]

ADoomedMarine said:
It wouldn't get torn up because Superman emits an aura that protects everything around him.. that's why the only thing that usually gets torn up is his cape.


A friend of mine said that his outfit was made from a special fabric that Kents found in his spacecraft or something.

[ADM]

Takeshi said:

ADoomedMarine said:
It wouldn't get torn up because Superman emits an aura that protects everything around him.. that's why the only thing that usually gets torn up is his cape.


A friend of mine said that his outfit was made from a special fabric that Kents found in his spacecraft or something.



Never heard of that.

[KillerByte]

Takeshi said:

ADoomedMarine said:
It wouldn't get torn up because Superman emits an aura that protects everything around him.. that's why the only thing that usually gets torn up is his cape.


A friend of mine said that his outfit was made from a special fabric that Kents found in his spacecraft or something.



ADoomedMarine is correct. However, the story of his suit being made from a special fabric found in his spacecraft is news to me. If I remember correctly, the only part of his suit which came from his spacecraft was the 'S' symbol.

[Drizzle]

That guy is too small and too young to play Superman. I guess to me, he just doesnt look the part.

The suit isnt that bad, at least hes going to be able to move in it. Not like what they did with the Batman outfit, im amazed the actors could even walk.

[Nacho]

The new suit for Batman is light and flexible.

[Drizzle]

I meant the old batman outfits http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Also, if i were superman, i would WANT a bright colorful outfit with a big S on it, it would distract people from my facial features, making me harder to recognize in muted street clothing.

[Nacho]

Drizzle said:
I meant the old batman outfits http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Also, if i were superman, i would WANT a bright colorful outfit with a big S on it, it would distract people from my facial features, making me harder to recognize in muted street clothing.



Why do you think they kept changing actors.

And I agree with the colourfullness idea.

[Beelze]

Drizzle said:
Also, if i were superman, i would WANT a bright colorful outfit with a big S on it, it would distract people from my facial features, making me harder to recognize in muted street clothing.


Or better, I'd wear some kind mask that doesn't hamper my vision. I find it hard to believe that people who know Clark don't actually see that he really is Superman.

Dressing in bright colors and showing his face is meant to be taken as him not being afraid, as well as being good of heart, I suppose.

[JackpotDen]

Beelze said:

Drizzle said:
Also, if i were superman, i would WANT a bright colorful outfit with a big S on it, it would distract people from my facial features, making me harder to recognize in muted street clothing.


Or better, I'd wear some kind mask that doesn't hamper my vision. I find it hard to believe that people who know Clark don't actually see that he really is Superman.

Dressing in bright colors and showing his face is meant to be taken as him not being afraid, as well as being good of heart, I suppose.



I know what, I'd wear.

(Mouth & nose only)Gas mask, Ski goggles, Loose Hawaian Shirt, Black T shirt under, Baggy jeans, Hand Claw thignes that the Az bat has. And an AK 47 on my back.

[FireFly]

I think Superman Blue is the coolest looking Superman.

[Mountain Man]

Beelze said:
I find it hard to believe that people who know Clark don't actually see that he really is Superman.


I always thought it would be great to be bank robber in Metropolis. Just wear a pair of glasses as a disguise, and after you take them off, nobody will be able to identify you as the robber!

"Oh, no, it couldn't have been him. You see, the robber was wearing a pair of glasses."

[KillerByte]

Mountain Man said:
I always thought it would be great to be bank robber in Metropolis. Just wear a pair of glasses as a disguise, and after you take them off, nobody will be able to identify you as the robber!

"Oh, no, it couldn't have been him. You see, the robber was wearing a pair of glasses."



Don't forget the different hairstyles between Clark and Superman.

I must admit though, that it is a pretty poor way of hiding your secret identity. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Nacho]

I've been watching Bryan Singers video blog of him making the movie. It looks neat. From a behind the scenes standpoint.

[shiranui]

ADoomedMarine said:
http://www.leafyisle.net/dump/newsuperman.jpg

Mirrored at my site.


Oh, good lord no!

Another senseless remake.
I saw the first three movies at the cinema, and they are all classics.

[Nacho]

Just out of boredum.

Here is where his little tiny ship crashes. I have tons more.

[Nacho]

oh, forgot. Here's the ship. People looking at it are Bryan the two wrighters and I believe the technical supervisor.

[mr black]

i actually worked a little on this costume - very little, (one of my friends is in the costume department, and no i didn't have a hand in picking the colors ) but one nice little detail to the suit is that the texture you see on the suit and the boots is actually an "S" pattern really tightly spaced. it helps the suit look less like "tights" i think. also it's on the bottom of his boots in the soles they said.

[Steve]

Not too bad at all http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Marty]

my mate might be an extra in the movie http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Nacho]

Marty said:
my mate might be an extra in the movie http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif



If he's in the scene outside of a subway that they turned into a hospital for the movie then I might have a picture of him. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ADM]

Or you could just link everyone to Bryan's blog videos:
http://www.bluetights.net/bulletin_list.php

[Beelze]

shiranui said:
Another senseless remake.


Another senseless post -- it's not a remake.

[supermeerkat]

Beelze said:

shiranui said:
Another senseless remake.


Another senseless post -- it's not a remake.



It's a new story, which takes place after Superman II, and ignores the subsequent films, I believe.

[mysteryperfecta]

I didn't realize how small the S emblem is on this guy's chest until I saw a photoshopped version with a bigger S, brighter colors, and larger briefs:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/ (and scroll down 3/4th of the page).

Seeing them side-by-side, the actual, smaller S emblem really bothers me. I'm not sure why, but the larger S really rings true. What do you guys think?

[Lengis]

I think people should accept the fact that supes was always a stupid looking character. Honestly, he was created in the friggen stone age, a costume like that is just ridiculous.

[Dr.Dude]

Sure, it looks a little dated, but that has more to do with the design than anything else --- Superman's costume always does have a dated quality, with details like the red undies and no mask. But at the same time, the costume represents and defines the character in such a major way that you honestly can't change anything but the most minor details. The traditional costume is Superman.

So in any case, I was pleased when I saw this - it ain't perfect, but its definitely classic Superman, and IMO probably the best live action Supes costume so far. And Brandon Routh is starting to look like he might indeed be a great casting choice for this role... hope he can live up the huge expectations that he'll have resting on his shoulders.

[John]

New batman looks cooler. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif