Prey officially announced

[X-Vector]

2K GAMES AND 3D REALMS ANNOUNCE PREY

Innovative First Person Shooter in Development at Human Head Studios

New York, NY – April 26, 2005 – 2K Games, a publishing label of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTWO), and 3D Realms today announced Prey, a revolutionary first person shooter for PC and a next-generation console system in development at Human Head Studios, under the direct supervision of 3D Realms.

“The initial concept for Prey had been incubating for a while, waiting for the right opportunity to come along,” said George Broussard, President of 3D Realms. "We jumped at the chance to create this game with a talented developer like Human Head Studios and next-generation technology like the Doom 3 engine."

Scott Miller, CEO of 3D Realms, added, "Prey is special for many reasons, including several new and original gameplay features and a tightly integrated story that packs an emotional punch, unlike other first person shooters."

“Our collaboration with 3D Realms has been enormously rewarding,” added Timothy Gerritsen, CEO of Human Head Studios. “With their help, Prey is sure to breathe new life into the first person shooter genre with a compelling story, innovative gameplay mechanics and dazzling imagery, which is powered by our significantly enhanced version of id Software's original Doom 3 engine.”

Prey will be exclusively showcased at this year’s E3 Expo by ATI in a movie theater-style exhibition. For the world exclusive first details on the game, look for PC Gamer’s June issue featuring Prey as its cover story, arriving on newsstands in early May. Prey is currently scheduled for a 2006 release.




http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/042605_prey.x

[trackit]

i hope we will get to see the video shortly after E3 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Why isn't this press release on this page and the homepage of 2K Games ?

[X-Vector]

Corporate websites are typically a bit tardy with their updates.

[trackit]

Kristian Joensen said:
Why isn't this press release on this page and the homepage of 2K Games ?



it isnt on anybodys homepage yet...

[Kristian Joensen]

Yes this is taken from shacknews.

[Kristian Joensen]

Human Head Studios updated there homepage and have now annouced Prey:

Human Head Studios. (http://www.humanhead.com/)

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[KaiserSoze]

Congrats Human Head and 3dr!

Now let's get those high rez screenshots, wallpapers and video kthxgbye. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ChoppySeas]

2006 release window eh? I guess that destroys the theory that it would come out 6 months after being debuted. See, that's why you should never pretend to know 3DR's policies on anything besides WID. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/whenitsdone.gif

I wonder which next-gen console it's going to be on. I'm betting it's XBOX 360. Even more reason to get one. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Keep up the good work.

[crunchy superman]

Strange that it's hosted at ATi's booth. Makes one wonder if ATi has some improved openGL performance up their sleeves. Otherwise, there'll be crow & humble pie for dinner in Ontario when nVidia ends up besting them in performance, as they always have in openGL titles.

[trackit]

crunchysuperman said:
Strange that it's hosted at ATi's booth. Makes one wonder if ATi has some improved openGL performance up their sleeves. Otherwise, there'll be crow & humble pie for dinner in Ontario when nVidia ends up besting them in performance, as they always have in openGL titles.



indeed... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Drazula]

crunchysuperman said:
Strange that it's hosted at ATi's booth. Makes one wonder if ATi has some improved openGL performance up their sleeves. Otherwise, there'll be crow & humble pie for dinner in Ontario when nVidia ends up besting them in performance, as they always have in openGL titles.


Yep, I thought that was interesting. But as the press release says, it is a highly modified version of the Doom 3 engine. Meaning, when it detects an NVidia driver, it slows to a crawl. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[FireFly]

The X850 PE isn't far behind the 6800 Ultra in Doom 3. Add in plenty of optimisations and some ATI-centric stuff like shaders and voila!

[crunchy superman]

Yeah, but X850 is a refresh newer than the Ultra and still is a bit slower (in openGL) - and more expensive to boot!

But hey, even the little bit slower it is, we're still talking major fast framerates. I've always been an ATi fan, and I guess it bugs me how they can't quite give OGL the same treatment they do for D3D.

Anyways, didn't mean to derail the thread. Bring on E3!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

[Spooger]

FireFly said:
The X850 PE isn't far behind the 6800 Ultra in Doom 3. Add in plenty of optimisations and some ATI-centric stuff like shaders and voila!



As far as I know, one of the biggest preformance differences is due to Nvidia's 6800 series having a shader which better facilitates real-time lighting. I think it's called Ultrashader. Anyone know, or is that incorrect?

[Lengis]

.....and a next-generation console system



Ah, just what I wanted to hear. My comp defintely can't play this game, so it's Xbox 360 port for me http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Viper Knight]

Lengis said:

.....and a next-generation console system



Ah, just what I wanted to hear. My comp defintely can't play this game, so it's Xbox 360 port for me http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Or maybe the new Playstation...

[Gryph]

Viper Knight said:

Lengis said:

.....and a next-generation console system



Ah, just what I wanted to hear. My comp defintely can't play this game, so it's Xbox 360 port for me http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Or maybe the new Playstation...


Or maybe the new Nintendo. OR THE PHANTOM GAMING SERVICE! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Lengis]

Viper Knight said:

Lengis said:

.....and a next-generation console system



Ah, just what I wanted to hear. My comp defintely can't play this game, so it's Xbox 360 port for me http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Or maybe the new Playstation...



Well Xbox 360 is comming this fall which is about the same time Prey is said to come out, so they will prolly port it to xbox 360 first.

[Michelangelo]

This means I have to get xp http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Soilwork]

Lengis said:

Viper Knight said:

Lengis said:

.....and a next-generation console system



Ah, just what I wanted to hear. My comp defintely can't play this game, so it's Xbox 360 port for me http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Or maybe the new Playstation...



Well Xbox 360 is comming this fall which is about the same time Prey is said to come out, so they will prolly port it to xbox 360 first.



The PC version will destroy the console versions, whoo-haha.. er, yeah - enjoy!!!

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[KaiserSoze]

Lengis said:

Well Xbox 360 is comming this fall which is about the same time Prey is said to come out, so they will prolly port it to xbox 360 first.



prey is shipping sometime in 2006. that's not this fall.

[Lengis]

KaiserSoze said:

Lengis said:

Well Xbox 360 is comming this fall which is about the same time Prey is said to come out, so they will prolly port it to xbox 360 first.



prey is shipping sometime in 2006. that's not this fall.



Where did you hear that? Didn't 3DR adopt a 6 month policy of announcing games before their release? Why hype it now when it's so far from release and fall into the same damn trap DNF started? 3DR isn't dumb enough to repeat the same mistakes. Or at least I hope they aren't.

[KaiserSoze]

Lengis said:

KaiserSoze said:

Lengis said:

Well Xbox 360 is comming this fall which is about the same time Prey is said to come out, so they will prolly port it to xbox 360 first.



prey is shipping sometime in 2006. that's not this fall.



Where did you hear that? Didn't 3DR adopt a 6 month policy of announcing games before their release? Why hype it now when it's so far from release and fall into the same damn trap DNF started? 3DR isn't dumb enough to repeat the same mistakes. Or at least I hope they aren't.



in the official press release announcing the game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/042605_prey.x


Prey is currently scheduled for a 2006 release.



not so sure if i dig the unknown release date of sometime in 2006 but who am i kidding, my credit card is ready and waiting. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Drazula]

/me kicks Kaiser in the nuts and steals his place in line...

"muuuuhahahahahaha, me first!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

[Karthik]

*beats everyone to the line*

There can be only one.

[Joe Siegler]

Drazula said:
/me kicks Kaiser in the nuts and steals his place in line...

"muuuuhahahahahaha, me first!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif



/me moves line elsewhere if Draz is in front.

[Sayantan]

Joe3DR* said:
/me moves line elsewhere if Draz is in front.



ROFL LMAO. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

BTW .......... <font color="red">OWNED ! </font> http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[George Broussard]

KaiserSoze said:

Lengis said:

Well Xbox 360 is comming this fall which is about the same time Prey is said to come out, so they will prolly port it to xbox 360 first.



prey is shipping sometime in 2006. that's not this fall.


It will ship when it's done. We honestly aren't sure when that will be. But regardless what you hear anywhere else, it's very much "when it's done".

[Asmodeusz]

You just love to say it, don't you chief? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/whenitsdone.gif

[George Broussard]

Asmodeusz said:
You just love to say it, don't you chief? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/whenitsdone.gif


I actually hate saying it because it angers people and we're slow as turtles in molasses, but I think it needs repeating every now and then http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[mr black]

whaaaaAAAA?!?!

so hot with anticipation that I almost swoon (yes, i said swoon) i rush to my mail box to gather up my delicious copy of PC Gamer, desiring it's warm loving embrace of gaming goodness, spearheaded by a "Prey" cover years in the making, only to find?.............

Empire Earth II .

Yes the loving folks at PC Gamer slapped a fake ad cover over the Prey cover. So much for the big scoop....

[hell-angel]

George Broussard said:

KaiserSoze said:

Lengis said:

Well Xbox 360 is comming this fall which is about the same time Prey is said to come out, so they will prolly port it to xbox 360 first.



prey is shipping sometime in 2006. that's not this fall.


It will ship when it's done. We honestly aren't sure when that will be. But regardless what you hear anywhere else, it's very much "when it's done".



hmm.. dejavu.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Viper Knight]

George Broussard said:

Asmodeusz said:
You just love to say it, don't you chief? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/whenitsdone.gif


I actually hate saying it because it angers people and we're slow as turtles in molasses, but I think it needs repeating every now and then http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


It doesn't anger me. It calms me knowing that you guys won't release something till it's right. A form of meditation as it were...

/me hits a gong, lights up some incense and chants, "wiiiid...wiiiid...wiiid". http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[hell-angel]

Viper Knight said:
It doesn't anger me. It calms me knowing that you guys won't release something till it's right. A form of meditation as it were...

/me hits a gong, lights up some incense and chants, "wiiiid...wiiiid...wiiid". http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Teacher to the pshyc Class on a Psychiatric ward:
Now class, this is wat we call a clasic case of a DNF fan that has gone over the edge.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[dark_angel]

So George, we shouldn't expect a release date announcement for Prey at E3...

[Thriller]

^ More a statement than an actuall question, right? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[dark_angel]

Thriller said:
^ More a statement than an actuall question, right? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Gryph]

mr black said:
whaaaaAAAA?!?!

so hot with anticipation that I almost swoon (yes, i said swoon) i rush to my mail box to gather up my delicious copy of PC Gamer, desiring it's warm loving embrace of gaming goodness, spearheaded by a "Prey" cover years in the making, only to find?.............

Empire Earth II .

Yes the loving folks at PC Gamer slapped a fake ad cover over the Prey cover. So much for the big scoop....



God I hate that. Leave the ads inside the mag!

But anyway, WID doesn't anger or annoy me. Everything should be done when it's done and not before. Too much bad shit happens because it's done before it should be.

[Malgon]

Nah, I think I am used to the whole WID thing, and I have to say I am more psyched about Prey (and Duke of course) than any other titles still to come. Hey getting angry doesnt get you the game any quicker, so sit back, relax, and trust that 3DR know what they are doing! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Hey George, do new forum members get a sneak peak at the Duke! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[George Broussard]

dark_angel said:
So George, we shouldn't expect a release date announcement for Prey at E3...


No.

[Rider]

George Broussard said:

dark_angel said:
So George, we shouldn't expect a release date announcement for Prey at E3...


No.



I guess people are forgetting WID as soon as new info becomes available http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Joe Siegler]

I guess people are forgetting WID as soon as new info becomes available



It's another of the reasons why we aren't more forthcoming with info. Give 'em a tiny bit then they want a ton more.

[Hudson]

Joe3DR said:

I guess people are forgetting WID as soon as new info becomes available



It's another of the reasons why we aren't more forthcoming with info. Give 'em a tiny bit then they want a ton more.



Well you guys have to remember that you're 3D Realms.. the developers of one of the most anticipated first person shooters ever http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Gryph]

Give a mouse a cookie and he'll want a glass of milk. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Thriller]

Joe3DR said:
It's another of the reasons why we aren't more forthcoming with info. Give 'em a tiny bit then they want a ton more.

Meh, thats sooo 2001.

People dont do that anymore. Promise.




http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Thriller]

GryphonKlaw said:
Give a mouse a cookie and he'll want a glass of milk. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The better comparison would be "give a mouse some cement-powder and he wants to drink water"

UBB:ers/mice just dont know whats good to them..

[thehoss]

So, since DNF was "WID" back in lets say '98 or so and Prey is NOW "WID" then that likely means that Prey will be released sometime between 2013 and never...I wish I could just lollygag around at my job with no deadlines; that must be awesome to have no responsibility. Imagine it...if your boss says, "Hey, I need those maps and textures you've been working on for 6 years done by next Friday!" all you would have to reply with is "WID"! If he asks you to take out the trash at your desk, just reply with "WID!". And if your wife asks you to get off your lazy butt and help around the house or mow the lawn, just brush her off with a brief "WID...honey." and all is well! I liken DNF to a friend of mine who is restoring an antique car. He works on it when he feels like it and makes very little progress and you get the feeling he'll never finish...oh wait, with my friends car I can actually SEE progress, not so with DNF http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[trackit]

Hmm... bad bad 3DR. Like that wasnt enough they are themselves... now they are trying to turn another developers also into WID religion http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


ok ok, just kidding http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Gryph]

thehoss said:
So, since DNF was "WID" back in lets say '98 or so and Prey is NOW "WID" then that likely means that Prey will be released sometime between 2013 and never...I wish I could just lollygag around at my job with no deadlines; that must be awesome to have no responsibility. Imagine it...if your boss says, "Hey, I need those maps and textures you've been working on for 6 years done by next Friday!" all you would have to reply with is "WID"! If he asks you to take out the trash at your desk, just reply with "WID!". And if your wife asks you to get off your lazy butt and help around the house or mow the lawn, just brush her off with a brief "WID...honey." and all is well! I liken DNF to a friend of mine who is restoring an antique car. He works on it when he feels like it and makes very little progress and you get the feeling he'll never finish...oh wait, with my friends car I can actually SEE progress, not so with DNF http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif


I'm sure they have internal deadlines and a time frame they're working towards but they aren't going to bend to external forces such as ourselves. They're just not going to release a product until they feel it's done and good enough to be unleashed to the public.

[Joe Siegler]

trackit said:
Hmm... bad bad 3DR. Like that wasnt enough they are themselves... now they are trying to turn another developers also into WID religion http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Trying? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I thought it'd already been done. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[SyntaxN]

I thought it'd already been done.


My congratulations.... :\
I thought you will announce&show your games just 6 month before the release http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Gryph]

SyntaxN said:
I thought you will announce&show your games just 6 month before the release http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif


That was NEVER official policy. Some people just assumed it was because it's what they did for Max Payne 2.

[Joe Siegler]

SyntaxN said:

I thought it'd already been done.


My congratulations.... :\
I thought you will announce&show your games just 6 month before the release http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif



I was being a smartass. Don't take everything so seriously. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

No they have stated several times that they won't annouce games early and 6 months has been mentioned several tiems on these forums by George and others that doesn't mean it will be exactly 6 months since WID is still there official policy and the industry is unpredictible, plus in some circumsizes more than 6 months will be appropriate in others less.

George has just recently stated that their biggest mistake with DNF was annoucing early.

[Joe Siegler]

Kristian Joensen said:
No they have stated several times that they won't annouce games early and 6 months has been mentioned several tiems on these forums by George and others that doesn't mean it will be exactly 6 months since WID is still there official policy and the industry is unpredictible, plus in some circumsizes more than 6 months will be appropriate in others less.

George has just recently stated that their biggest mistake with DNF was annoucing early.



Plus, don't discount the possibility that we might change our minds and abandon said policy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Yeah but the last point severly counts against that possibility but it doesn't have to me exactly 6 months, George also ones mentioend 6 months - 1 year as an example.

[Kristian Joensen]

So the 6 months thing migth be changed without the principle behind it been changed.

[KaiserSoze]

Joe3DR said:


Plus, don't discount the possibility that we might change our minds and abandon said policy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



3dr change their minds about something? you kid, you kid. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

Joe3DR said:

I guess people are forgetting WID as soon as new info becomes available



It's another of the reasons why we aren't more forthcoming with info. Give 'em a tiny bit then they want a ton more.


Well, it's your damn fault for making the game sound (and look) so damn good. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[DI-MeisterM]

Joe3DR said:
It's another of the reasons why we aren't more forthcoming with info. Give 'em a tiny bit then they want a ton more.



Gamers are never happy.

[Spooger]

Kristian Joensen said:
plus in some circumsizes more than 6 months will be appropriate in others less.




http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Yeah http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Lupine73]

Wow...

Well there's a blast from the past!

I was following Prey's development back when it was originally being worked on.. Its slogan was "Prey: You are, and you better", or something like that. Think it was around the time of the first Unreal. And.. again, I'm thinking many years back here, but the plot at the time was something about a human warrior dropped on this planet who then had to survive/escape against a constant onslaught of alien enemies, etc.. something along those lines.

Anyway.. I was following up on that, reading about all the cool stuff they were doing.. I believe it was to be the first 3D game engine to introduce portals (as we later came to see them in Unreal), creating the illusion of stepping into a phone-booth sized structure and winding up in a room the size of a warehouse, etc... and some other cool innovations. Then it was ceased at some point..

Anyway, so now Human Head is working on it.. Very cool! I loved Rune :-)

Be great to see this game finally see the light of day..

[Orochi Avlis]

Just picked up my copy of PCG.

You can see the pic of the creepy girls mentioned in the article, at the very beginning of the mag.

[lowdog]

Hi all http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I only heard about this game recently and as soon as I did and saw those scans from the PC gamer mag I was HOOKED, I am hangin big time for this game now. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

My only dissapointment though is this: everything about the whole WID concept makes me feel uneasy.

For a start I personaly feel the game developers should not announce a game until it is DONE. Once it is done the game should be announced and a release date should be set for 3 months after the announcement. 3 months should be sufficient time for an advertising campaign. This way the release date is deffinate and there are no dissapointments with "delays".

Lets look at STALKER and DNF for example. Both games were announced years ago, and STALKER more specifically has been delayed repeatedly, the latest delay sending the game into 2006 with no official date and the WID tag still in place.

Delays tend to antagonise people and personaly I find nothing worse than waiting eagerly for an announced game that keeps getting pushed/delayed further and further into the future. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Don't get me wrong, I am looking very foward to getting my hands on PREY, it's just that I wish there was a definate release date rather than a WID. I would rather not hear about the game at all and then be surprised with an announcement and advertising campaign and an official release date once the game was DONE, rather than hear hype about a game prematurely with a WID tag that could be delayed for years to come. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

End rant. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Lengis]

>>>>>For a start I personaly feel the game developers should not announce a game until it is DONE. Once it is done the game should be announced and a release date should be set for 3 months after the announcement. 3 months should be sufficient time for an advertising campaign. This way the release date is deffinate and there are no dissapointments with "delays".


Agreed.

[hell-angel]

Lengis said:
>>>>>For a start I personaly feel the game developers should not announce a game until it is DONE. Once it is done the game should be announced and a release date should be set for 3 months after the announcement. 3 months should be sufficient time for an advertising campaign. This way the release date is deffinate and there are no dissapointments with "delays".


Agreed.



true, but then you would miss the "important" community input and the fact that without some fanbase support, you don't get high sales and some less advertising since mouth to mouth advertising is still the best there is. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Viper Knight]

lowdog said:
My only dissapointment though is this: everything about the whole WID concept makes me feel uneasy.



I'm sorry to hear but here's my little word of advice: "Put up or shut up!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

3D Realms does things the way they think they should be done. They are not our slaves where our every wish is their command. Well, not always anyway. Learn to respect that and you will look up to 3D Realms as being one of the best, if not the best, game development company in the world. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Eli Quinn]

lowdog said:
Don't get me wrong, I am looking very foward to getting my hands on PREY, it's just that I wish there was a definate release date rather than a WID. I would rather not hear about the game at all and then be surprised with an announcement and advertising campaign and an official release date once the game was DONE, rather than hear hype about a game prematurely with a WID tag that could be delayed for years to come. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



I can see how it can be frustrating - it happens all the time with music, where bands delay their releases over and over, an extreme example being GNR's "Chinese Democracy." Keep in mind though that delays aren't necessarily due to dawdling or laziness, they happen sometimes during the pursuit of perfection. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Viper Knight]

Eli Quinn said:
Keep in mind though that delays aren't necessarily due to dawdling or laziness, they happen sometimes during the pursuit of perfection. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


And sometimes significant mistakes. Like 3D Realms not hiring enough people to work on DNF. There, I said something bad about 3D Realms for a change! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Oh, and George has stated that he and his team are not perfectionists. They will polish something till it's right though. I don't know about you guys, Human Head, though. Let me just say that the pursuit for perfection is a never-ending goal.