What's the Big Deal?

[b_blakeney]

Sorry guys, I just had to ask -- what the heck's the big deal? A game's being released on a semi-old engine, it's not exactly news to me. Is there some aspect of gameplay that just hasn't been seen before? Because it sounds to me like Painkiller with a Native American.

Somebody drop some knowledge on me, 'cuz all I have right now is some crappy flash and a semi-catchy catchphrase. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

--b

[Nacho]

Story wise it is supposed to be very nice. It's a FPS with a twist which is the portals. The game takes place on a Giant living planet and it just still looks damn good. Plus as far as we know it is very enjoyable, isn't that what games are made for?

[Gryph]

You should watch the shaky cam footage of the E3 presentation. You'll find a link in the E3 Demo thread.

[dale h]

Doom 3 engine is a Semi-Old Engine? Are you kidding?

And as has been stated here before, Gameplay is number one, graphics are second, and it looks like Prey with have great gameplay and graphics.

[The Cacodemon]

b_blakeney said:'cuz all I have right now is some crappy flash and a semi-catchy catchphrase.



there's a lot more about the game out than that.

how about looking before you insult the makers of the game on their own forums????

[ZuljinRaynor]

Doom 3 semi-old? More like semi-premature...

[Vexed]

Because it sounds to me like Painkiller with a Native American.


Oh? What did you hear exactly?

[b_blakeney]

The Cacodemon said:

b_blakeney said:'cuz all I have right now is some crappy flash and a semi-catchy catchphrase.



there's a lot more about the game out than that.

how about looking before you insult the makers of the game on their own forums????



First of all, don't be so quick to play the castigator (look that up), 3DR is not going to give you a job. If you had any form of syntactical insight into what I had actually said, then you would see that I'm actually not insulting the title. All I said was, "What's the big deal?" All there is on the flash website is a little anim. with some little face that pops up, with the words "Earth's savior doesn't want the job," materializing, a la Painkiller. Now, Painkiller was a cool game, as Prey very well might be, but right now, I just don't get what the big deal is. Now if you'd like to enlighten me, or provide me with a link, or absolutely anything remotely... constructive, that's fine, but until then, don't just open your big mouth without reason.

For everybody else:

Is ther a link to a cool site flying around on the internet?

[Gryph]

Try this:
http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IF06WDPTOPKD3KGL7T1KAE0KU

[b_blakeney]

Thanks, matey. Just checked out the E3 vid, seems pretty cool. For some reason, it reminds me of Turok. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[John]

For being so intelligent you'd atleast care to realize that the Doom 3 engine is no where near old.

[b_blakeney]

What I meant was that, relative to engines like UNREAL III (Which, before you say it, is unreleased, I know), Doom 3 is not new. They're still develping titles for it, despite the fact that it's not finished yet.

--b

[Ronald McDonald]

For an engine it sure is new. The Quake 3 engine is not new anymore.

The Doom3 engine still has to prove its worth.

[John]

b_blakeney said:
What I meant was that, relative to engines like UNREAL III (Which, before you say it, is unreleased, I know), Doom 3 is not new. They're still develping titles for it, despite the fact that it's not finished yet.

--b



So you're telling me that both the Doom 3 engine and the CryTek engine are infact, old and out of date now? And thus no games should use those engines?

[b_blakeney]

Not new is different from "out of date," Squire John.

--b

[John]

Yes, but from the look of your first post, the primary reason for wanting to know "whats the big deal" is the fact that it's using the Doom 3 engine. But then that means you don't know anything about the portal technology and the spirit walking.

[b_blakeney]

That's what I'm talking about... Flying spirits and portal stuff.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


I just thought the hype was about "Hey, 3dr's releasing a game on the Doom 3 engine about some guy who doesn't want to save the earth, like in every other movie or game."

--b

[vivftp]

b_blakeney said:
That's what I'm talking about... Flying spirits and portal stuff.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I just thought the hype was about "Hey, 3dr's releasing a game on the Doom 3 engine about some guy who doesn't want to save the earth, like in every other movie or game."

--b



In that case, you should have availed yourself to the plethora of information already contained on this forum. It's all sitting there, ready for you to read, and a few screenshotsd and a video too... you just have to take some time to look at it.

[Beelze]

It's got portals that will hopefully be more than a gimmick.

[Cerberus_e]

Beelze said:
It's got portals that will hopefully be more than a gimmick.



did you even watch the movie? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
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and to that guy with a semi-big mouth http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Doom 3 is new, it's not because the game itself is released last year, the engine can't be improved anymore, and if all games were on the best available tech, you'd have to buy a new computer each 6 months.

[Ronald McDonald]

Well, I geuss what he means is that the really interesting stuf in the vid hasn't got anything to do with portals. I find the gravity distortion type thingie much more interesting.

[b_blakeney]

Cerberus_e said:

Beelze said:
It's got portals that will hopefully be more than a gimmick.



did you even watch the movie? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
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and to that guy with a semi-big mouth http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Doom 3 is new, it's not because the game itself is released last year, the engine can't be improved anymore, and if all games were on the best available tech, you'd have to buy a new computer each 6 months.



Cute. Oh, and by the way, Computers nowadays DO need to be updated virtually every six months. Well not every six6, but very often.

peace

--b

[George Broussard]

Cute. Oh, and by the way, Computers nowadays DO need to be updated virtually every six months. Well not every six6, but very often.


No. It's more like every 2 years.

A 9700Pro video card will still play pretty much every PC game out today (even Doom 3 and HL2, and Far Cry) to top visual settings, and do so well. And that card is 2 years or so old.

Generally if you upgrade every 2 years you will be cutting edge when you upgrade, and not need to do so again for 2 years. The reason for this is simple...most games do not even come *close* to maximizing the PC hardware because publishers (and most developers) want to run on as much hardware as possible.

But you don't have to upgrade video cards every 6 months - at all. In fact, it's a waste of money to do so.

[Parkar]

What George said. And cpu, mother board etc holds up even longer. Heck my amd athlon 2400+ is soon half the speed of the newest processors and I still see no reason to upgrade that for at least another year. Only upgrade I have done this year so far is double my ram from 512 to 1024 and thats just becouse my family had a spare 512 so it was for free. Last upgrade I paid for was the radeon 9800 pro and thats almost a year ago and only reason I did that was my gf4ti got heat damaged(tip make sure the heatsink does not get clugged by dust, its bad for the cooling http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif).

[Spooger]

The entire 6 month rule only applies if you want the absolute best in video - that said, I have no idea why anyone would by the newest, greatest card the very second it's released. I went 2-3 years without having to upgrade http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Vexed]

Last upgrade I paid for was the radeon 9800 pro and thats almost a year ago and only reason I did that was my gf4ti got heat damaged

Haha what the hell?
Same thing happend to my gf4ti and I replaced it with an radeon 9800pro too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Parkar]

Vexed said:

Last upgrade I paid for was the radeon 9800 pro and thats almost a year ago and only reason I did that was my gf4ti got heat damaged

Haha what the hell?
Same thing happend to my gf4ti and I replaced it with an radeon 9800pro too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



Heh, guess its a bad heat pipe design (asumeing yours had the same). Have been checking the heat pipe on my 9800pro ever month so far to be on the safe side but no dust collecting yet. The space between the metal things was pretty tight on mine, to tight I guess. When I ripped the top of mine away it was full of dust. realised it was a heating problem when the heat sink got so hot I almost burned my self on it after running the comp, thought it was something wrong with the drivers at first.

off topic rant done, lets get back on topic. What was the topic again?

[Cerberus_e]

so if I for example buy a geforce 6600, which I'd like to do if I can persuade my father http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
(my father has last word, it's his computer I play on, he bought it with his money)
can I play until Q2 2007 then?
I have 512 mb ram and 2.59 ghz CPU (intel)
how do I know if my motherboard supports a 6600? how do I know it's a waste of money and power because a 6200 has the same effect on my computer (because of the max performance of my cpu or ram or motherboard for example?)

[b_blakeney]

Okay.

--b

[vivftp]

Bah, you people upgrade too often http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Me? I'm still puttering along on a P3 1GHz, 256 megs of ram, and a Radeon 7000 video card.

My plan was that as soon as DNF was ready to launch, I'd toss a small fortune into building myself a nice supercomputer... but Prey might make me change those plans.

I considered doing the big upgrade for HL2 and Doom 3, but nah... those games aren't big enough to me, IMO... I'm waiting for these 2 big boys http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif