Prey video available [Archive]

Ras

05-19-2005, 10:00 PM

Yeah, great job so far, Human Head. What you're doing looks great even in poor quality shaky-cam. I saw someone on another forum making ignorant statements about Prey the other day, and now I just have to laugh. "Who cares about portals? Why do they think players even want them?" Innovation, perhaps? Bringing something new to the FPS genre? That video answers all of that, as far as I'm concerned.

I especially enjoy the part where Tommy flips gravity by shooting those targets. Good stuff.

Mblackwell

05-19-2005, 10:06 PM

Aynone else spot Duke?

Water12356

05-19-2005, 10:15 PM

Duke!?!? Where!?

Joe Siegler

05-19-2005, 10:41 PM

NutWrench said:
There's nothing there.

Yes there is - it's an embedded video - it's not coming up in Firefox.

And speaking of videos..

http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=7031

Ras

05-19-2005, 10:45 PM

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

Curses! Mercury only!

So, is this a high-quality direct version?

Gryph

05-19-2005, 10:51 PM

Shacknews was nice enough to make the Quake Wars HD trailer publically available the morning after it was Mercury exclusive. I hope they do the same with Prey.

And they aren't direct feeds, they're recorded with HD camera and are on a tripod so it's steady and good looking anyway.

Ras

05-19-2005, 10:59 PM

If I downloaded more, Shack would be worth the money, from what I've seen. Even the free side gives you a really speedy, solid connection.

Anyway, hopefully you're right, and it'll be available to all tomorrow.

QuiGonJ

05-19-2005, 11:28 PM

I saw the Prey video today at the ATI booth. I will say what I thought. This is what I said to HH: Half-Life 2 looks like a steaming pile compared to Prey. Looks great!

The demo begins in a bar. Two very naturally-animated looking folks are standing there, a lady tending, and a man drinking. Then everything begins to shake and a spaceship knocks a hole in the ceiling. The spaceship sucks up things into it, and it looks like it either digitizes or transports them as they go. The guy gets sucked up, and then you materialize on a spaceship. At the same time, a jetliner transports in, and crashes.

I don't pretend to understand the controls, but I watched Talon wander through the ship killing various things. Every so often he would walk on glowing white tiles that are something like gravity plates, and you walk up walls across ceilings, it feels like an Escher painting at some point, and I might add, a cool Escher painting at that. There's realistic physics, natch, and gravity rotating panels to shoot at various places that make doors slam down and you can smash things under falling (though non power-up and non-breaking) crates.

And of course, you can use the portal gun. It is seamless, moving through the portals had no load times, though I have no idea what hardware was powering the video. You can shoot through the portals, and the demo showcased the wide variety of levels available. There's open Arizona desert, there's spaceships, there's DooM 3 looking bases, and in one place you climb in a spaceship and it feels like the movie Independence Day.

The demo closed with Talon talking to his mentor, an older Indian who I assume was the medicine man of his tribe, offing the advice "Do not become Prey".

I came away thoroughly and completely impressed. This was one of the high points of E3 for me.

Afterwards, I pointed out that I would be happy to write this up on the 3DR boards for one of the cool Prey t-shirts HH had and were not giving out except to VIPs. They gave me the shirt, me did the writeup. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ADM

05-19-2005, 11:42 PM

Joe3DR said:

NutWrench said:
There's nothing there.

Yes there is - it's an embedded video - it's not coming up in Firefox.

And speaking of videos..

http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=7031

Cool! I might sign up for a month just to grab some of those http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Little Conqueror

05-19-2005, 11:55 PM

All I have to say is, this game will rule. Mark my words.

Yatta

05-20-2005, 12:23 AM

Someone please upload the trailer somewhere if you have it; I'm not paying crapshack or whoever to download a single video. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ras

05-20-2005, 12:35 AM

Qui-Gon, good report. I can't wait to see all of that for myself when the HD video gets a wider release.

Gryph, thanks for pointing out the Quake Wars trailer. That is a thing of beauty. I especially like when the Strogg ships crash down to Earth. I think I'm going to love this generation of gaming. George, make sure DNF looks that great. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Eclipse

05-20-2005, 01:11 AM

QuiGonJ said:
but I watched Talon

Tommy. Talon is the hawk. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

lonestar

05-20-2005, 09:50 AM

hey, shack is great. quiet, you! ;P

like said before, someone download it on fileshack and upload it for public folks, if any mercures are around. thx.

it's not the 10 minute prey video, only the one minute long prey trailer. but hey, it's HD and should offer some new content. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Cerberus_e

05-20-2005, 09:58 AM

I want the full 20 minutes one http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

NutWrench

05-20-2005, 10:34 AM

That was pretty cool. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

(I wish we had a video captured directly from the game and not from a camcorder).

Spooger

05-20-2005, 12:14 PM

Here we go:

www.preyhq.com (http://www.preyhq.com)

I suppose the url can be considered something of an early announcement.

edit: link has been changed for the people experiencing access problems.

DI-MeisterM

05-20-2005, 12:52 PM

Spooger said:
A link to the Fileshack video will be provided shortly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

www.preyhq.com/preye3shack.wmv (http://www.preyhq.com/preye3shack.wmv)

I suppose the url can be considered something of an early announcement.

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /preye3shack.wmv on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Spooger

05-20-2005, 12:55 PM

Hotlink protection. Sorry about that - working around it as we speak http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

dark_angel

05-20-2005, 12:56 PM

Working here!

Thx for the link Spooger http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ronald McDonald

05-20-2005, 01:41 PM

What kind of codec do you need to play this?

Spooger

05-20-2005, 01:48 PM

Ronald McDonald said:
What kind of codec do you need to play this?

http://www.free-codecs.com/ has pretty much every codec available if you don't have what you need. They have plenty of all-in-one codec packs that will help you play most anything.

DI-MeisterM

05-20-2005, 01:48 PM

Great video, many thanks for the link!

For videoplayback I suggest this program:
http://www.videolan.org/

Ronald McDonald

05-20-2005, 01:49 PM

I can't watch it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Gryph

05-20-2005, 01:55 PM

You need HD codecs.

I love how the fat enemy with the scythe twirls like a ballet dancer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Great video! Thanks Spooger and ShackNews.

George Broussard

05-20-2005, 02:10 PM

Cerberus_e said:
I want the full 20 minutes one http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The demo was only 12 minutes or so. Not 20. I think the shaky cam video that's out there cuts off about a minute early.

Cerberus_e

05-20-2005, 02:12 PM

downloading, thanks in advance, also thanks afterwards, because I know the video will be good

vivftp

05-20-2005, 02:44 PM

Spooger said:
Here we go:

www.preyhq.com (http://www.preyhq.com)

I suppose the url can be considered something of an early announcement.

edit: link has been changed for the people experiencing access problems.

Hmm, what's this? It's only 82 seconds of random, quick gameplay... I thought the 50 meg one was the full 12 minute one in higher quality http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Spooger

05-20-2005, 02:47 PM

Well, both the videos are shaky-cam, and we're hosting them both. One is the 10 minute demo, the other is a 1 minute "HD" video, featuring some new footage.

The entire 12 minute presentation is not available as far as I know.

vivftp

05-20-2005, 02:51 PM

Spooger said:
Well, both the videos are shaky-cam, and we're hosting them both. One is the 10 minute demo, the other is a 1 minute "HD" video, featuring some new footage.

The entire 12 minute presentation is not available as far as I know.

Awwe http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Heh, and I was really getting my hopes up to see the whole thing in higher quality... guess we still have to play the waiting game, heh

But one thing I do have to say, in the HD version, his grandfather certainly looks a LOT better than in the shakycam version - probably because you get to see the shadows upon his face, which give it more detail.

Spooger

05-20-2005, 02:56 PM

My E3 buddy just told me he got the *entire* video on tape, so once he gets that uploaded - and I don't have an exact time - we'll host it.

edit: by the way, he referred to Prey as "the show stopper."

vivftp

05-20-2005, 02:59 PM

Spooger said:
My E3 buddy just told me he got the *entire* video on tape, so once he gets that uploaded - and I don't have an exact time - we'll up it and host it.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
I love you, your buddy, and anyone/anything associated with you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BTW, did he mention how the quality was?

George Broussard

05-20-2005, 03:41 PM

edit: by the way, he referred to Prey as "the show stopper."

That's great to hear. We've been hearing some nice things from fans and people that saw the video.

The best thing that can happen now is to get the gameplay videos spread so more people can see them. Thanks for your efforts.

Cerberus_e

05-20-2005, 03:47 PM

George, don't you think it would be an even BETTER thing if you released the 20 minute demo in high quality so we can spread it (and put battlelords in DNF)? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Vexed

05-20-2005, 03:48 PM

What 20 min demo?

Spooger

05-20-2005, 04:02 PM

Vexed said:
What 20 min demo?

There is no 20 minute video. Gamespot reported a 20 minute presentation, but the official word is 12 minutes. My guess is that the video was longer than most teasers shown at E3, so Gamespot probably thought it was longer than it really was.

Or they rounded up instead of down http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

SyntaxN

05-20-2005, 04:40 PM

The best thing that can happen now is to get the gameplay videos spread so more people can see them. Thanks for your efforts.

Interesting strategy, no hyping (and no work in this area) from the producer, just from the fans which are spreading a shakycam video over the internet....
Possibly that´s more effective that giving everyone a 2 minute trailer, imo many people think that shakycam videos are "illegal" and as a result, more interesting than normal trailers http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Cerberus_e

05-20-2005, 04:41 PM

the video is a lot longer than 12 minutes, 100% sure, because the camera stopped recording in the middle of the movie, look at the fileshack movies, there are some scenes in it you haven't seen in the 12 minutes, but are from the e3 prey movie.

Spooger

05-20-2005, 04:54 PM

Cerberus_e said:
the video is a lot longer than 12 minutes, 100% sure, because the camera stopped recording in the middle of the movie, look at the fileshack movies, there are some scenes in it you haven't seen in the 12 minutes, but are from the e3 prey movie.

The fileshack movie contains a lot of the same, and a little more. Some of the scenes are played differently, which obviously means they're two seperate recordings. None of the new scenes we see in the HD trailer *have* to appear at the end of the 10:45 second trailer we've all seen. It was confirmed here that the video cut out with about a minute left on the clock, and from what I hear part of that minute includes a little talking from the old man in both trailers.

Bobby.Digital

05-20-2005, 04:56 PM

Cerberus_e said:
downloading, thanks in advance, also thanks afterwards, because I know the video will be good

We think its KICKASS! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Cerberus_e

05-20-2005, 05:00 PM

I'm awaiting the upload from this guy someone said here (full video on tape)
I want to see the full rotating portal sequence.

Spooger

05-20-2005, 05:02 PM

Cerberus_e said:
I'm awaiting the upload from this guy someone said here (full video on tape)
I want to see the full rotating portal sequence.

I don't really have an ETA on the vid, but from what I hear the quality is good, my friend's hand was steady, and it's the entire demonstration.

I'm pretty excited to see it myself http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anacrusis

05-20-2005, 05:06 PM

George Broussard said:
The best thing that can happen now is to get the gameplay videos spread so more people can see them. Thanks for your efforts.

Isn't it possible for the HH guys that are at E3 to make a direct feed video? Those shakycam vids really don't make it justice. Prey needs to be seen in all it's glory.

Spooger

05-20-2005, 05:14 PM

Anacrusis said:

George Broussard said:
The best thing that can happen now is to get the gameplay videos spread so more people can see them. Thanks for your efforts.

Isn't it possible for the HH guys that are at E3 to make a direct feed video? Those shakycam vids really don't make it justice. Prey needs to be seen in all it's glory.

Sure, HH could do that, but the video they had was designed for the press to see - not you. I think most companies would like their material to be perfectly edited/presented when it reaches a consumer. The press is used to dealing with and writing about unfinished material, so they're trusted to give us a reasonably knowledgable take on the game. Like George said, some of that stuff is just unfinished - it's not something they want their consumers to see because a lot of us are quick to judge these things as "final" material, and even base our purchase decisions off of first impressions.

George Broussard

05-20-2005, 05:18 PM

SyntaxN

05-20-2005, 05:20 PM

Our intent is to release high quality footage of this after E3 at some point.

but plz, no 2 min. trailer with some action scenes, give us real gameplay http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Gryph

05-20-2005, 05:31 PM

I hope "at some point" isn't too far off. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Vexed

05-20-2005, 05:35 PM

SyntaxN said:

Our intent is to release high quality footage of this after E3 at some point.

but plz, no 2 min. trailer with some action scenes, give us real gameplay http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Isn't he implying that they intend to release what was shown at e3?

DI-MeisterM

05-20-2005, 05:44 PM

George Broussard said:
Our intent is to release high quality footage of this after E3 at some point.

Yeah, something like the Oblivion trailer would be very nice http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Mister_Lynyrd

05-20-2005, 05:51 PM

Damn.

Looked nice. I'm pleasantly surprised. I hereby retract my Doom3 comparisons. I think I saw a little of 3DR's influence on HH there... where the little critter gets his leg torn off... ?? GB??

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

...looks good tho. Something to look forward to.

hell-angel

05-20-2005, 05:54 PM

DI-MeisterM said:

George Broussard said:
Our intent is to release high quality footage of this after E3 at some point.

Yeah, something like the Oblivion trailer would be very nice http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Ah yes, that trailer looked good, but I prefer the prey one, showed more stuff and gives a better view of the gameplay, oblivion basically only show the graphics (which are beautifull btw. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif )

I would love a high quality trailer, but I am happy the shaky-cam exists. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

(p.s. hurry up with the full version allready. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif )

Geir

05-20-2005, 07:15 PM

my guess is that the story is going to progress just like hl2 does.

Nessus

05-20-2005, 07:21 PM

George, why not just release the HD vid now? People are talking about it now, people are forming their impressions of the game now, best to just put it out and put your best foot forward.

Yatta

05-20-2005, 07:23 PM

Nessus said:
You should just release the HD vid now. People are talking about it now, people are forming their impressions of the game now, best to just put it out and put your best foot forward.

I agree with Nessus.

manuel

05-20-2005, 07:24 PM

SyntaxN said:

Our intent is to release high quality footage of this after E3 at some point.

but plz, no 2 min. trailer with some action scenes, give us real gameplay http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

and in the end everyone is whining "Ahh you spoiled too much with those videos like Valve did with HL" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Gryph

05-20-2005, 07:29 PM

Nessus said:
Georege, why not just release the HD vid now? People are talking about it now, people are forming their impressions of the game now, best to just put it out and put your best foot forward.

Because George doesn't have it yet. They're too busy at E3 to dump it into a movie file. Whenever they do dump it, they should just seed a torrent and let it spread that way quickly.

Spooger

05-20-2005, 07:30 PM

When you give a mouse a cookie...

Damn. I feel lucky to have even seen the shaky cam footage :]

Bobby.Digital

05-20-2005, 07:31 PM

manuel said:

SyntaxN said:

Our intent is to release high quality footage of this after E3 at some point.

but plz, no 2 min. trailer with some action scenes, give us real gameplay http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

and in the end everyone is whining "Ahh you spoiled too much with those videos like Valve did with HL" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

well HL2 was delayed by a year, thats why I think there were so many videos I think, and lets all hope Prey doesnt get delayed again!

-- Edit --

Well, i failed to realize that Prey has been cancel for like 8 year!

Vexed

05-20-2005, 07:48 PM

Is it just me or does the field of view seem different from other FPS games?

Parkar

05-20-2005, 07:50 PM

8? wasn't it more like 2 or even less? put on hold in 99 and HH supposedly started like 2001 or so. But to the public I guess you could say its been mia since 98 which makes it 7. Actualy that only makes you of by one if that's what you meant.

Spooger

05-20-2005, 07:59 PM

Parkar said:
8? wasn't it more like 2 or even less? put on hold in 99 and HH supposedly started like 2001 or so. But to the public I guess you could say its been mia since 98 which makes it 7. Actualy that only makes you of by one if that's what you meant.

I'm sure that's what he meant. For example, despite development on DNF having been restarted, a lot of people refer to 97 as its genesis. It's purely point-of-view.

That said, it's excellent that since Prey's recent unveiling, it's on its way in such a short time! 2006 is right around the corner as far as I'm concerned, and given what we've seen in the footage it should be well worth *any* wait.

edit: slightly off-topic, but I'm excited to see what Chris and the other HH developers think of the general reaction to their work here. I can imagine how worried they might be about showing off Prey considering its unique gameplay.

Bastos

05-20-2005, 09:42 PM

I just saw the shaky cam video, and I must say, very good job, already......
I was a bit afraid to hear, the doom 3 engine was being used, but I must say, this looks like it's going to k*ck *ss....

I was very eagerd to see the game when it was announced in the 90's, I even look more to the release now, after seeing this......

3D Realms, you just gotta love em....

Spooger

05-20-2005, 11:54 PM

Bastos said:
3D Realms, you just gotta love em....

and Human Head too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Lengis

05-21-2005, 12:12 AM

>>>>>going to k*ck *ss....

Uhh, why did you censor that. Is kicking ass so vulgar we must not mention it? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Bobby.Digital

05-21-2005, 12:17 AM

Lengis said:
>>>>>going to k*ck *ss....

Uhh, why did you censor that. Is kicking ass so vulgar we must not mention it? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

you should for sure NOT mention Kickass on the forum, or they will kick your ass off, and that would not be so kick ass http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Roger

05-21-2005, 12:21 AM

You just said it three times! Bon voyage! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif/

Spooger

05-21-2005, 12:27 AM

/me watches him get his as* kic*ed right off the 3DR forums http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Boinky

05-21-2005, 02:12 AM

Hrm was I the only one who thought those flying things when he was in the lil space pod looked a lot like a special floating friend of ours.. *coughs octabrain *coughs. Over all very impressed. *takes a moment and looks at tower.. Yeah I'll be getting the gamne in about 2 years :-P

Lengis

05-21-2005, 02:41 AM

Yes, I thought they looked like octobrains too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

zwieback

05-21-2005, 04:43 AM

Just to say this once:

THIS GAME DOESN'T LOOK LIKE DOOM3!!!!
GO HELL NAYSAYERS!!!

This game looks like an absolute kickass game for what i've seen so far. there are indeed much brighter environments in the game as in a normal doom3 game - and the portals are absolutly amazing. it's prey like i've became to love in 1998...
hands up again for 3dr and hh!

Weeeeee! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif i can't wait http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ronald McDonald

05-21-2005, 04:57 AM

The problem with the D3 comparison is that Doom3 gave dark sci-fi indoor shooters a bad name.
Prey will prove that dark sci-fi shooters can be innovative and fun http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Spooger

05-21-2005, 05:09 AM

zwieback said:
Just to say this once:

THIS GAME DOESN'T LOOK LIKE DOOM3!!!!
GO HELL NAYSAYERS!!!

This game looks like an absolute kickass game for what i've seen so far. there are indeed much brighter environments in the game as in a normal doom3 game - and the portals are absolutly amazing. it's prey like i've became to love in 1998...
hands up again for 3dr and hh!

Weeeeee! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif i can't wait http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

And what's even better is that I believe George said the environments are even brighter than what can be seen in the trailers.

Boinky

05-21-2005, 12:47 PM

Actually parts of the trailer did have a little doom 3 nostalgia in them. I say nostalgia b/c I beat the game and never picked it up again. Linear gameplay is no fun :\. That is understandable though, seeing as how its made w/ the doom 3 engines. I wonder if the battle lord was put into prey just to appease Cerebus_e. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

vivftp

05-21-2005, 02:39 PM

Howdy Spooger... and update on this new video? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Spooger

05-21-2005, 04:03 PM

vivftp said:
Howdy Spooger... and update on this new video? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Well, it's gonna take some time mang. Last I talked wiff my friend, I believe he was headed home from E3, and from that point he actually needs to get the video onto his computer.

I'll keep everyone updated as best I can on it.

Cerberus_e

05-21-2005, 04:04 PM

yes, the ETA is very long it seems http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

but Boinky, what does the doom 3 engine have to do with linearity? I can understand why you want a battlelord in prey, everyone wants that, but I don't understand how each game on the doom 3 engine is automatically linear according to you? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

fritzchen1

05-22-2005, 05:09 AM

Indeed a very impressive video!
Thank god the flashlight is no gameplay element here http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Doom3 engine in it's full glory.
With Quake4, EnemyTerritory:Quake Wars and Prey being made, I am fully convinced that the Doom3 engine is capable of good looking nonpitchblack areas!
I am very excited about the story behind the shooting. If it will be as cool and dramatic as MaxPaynes or even better?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Scott Miller

05-22-2005, 10:18 AM

Just a quick note on the video:

It was 100% gameplay. in other words, this game is like Half-Life, in that you are always playing the game from the main characters perspective, and there are no cut-scenes. I've seen a lot of people mistakenly think that the opening bar seen is like a cut-scene, but this is all playable. In the real game, for example, you'll be able to interact with the video game machines, the jukebox, characters (there will be other chars in this final game in the bar), and explore the area before the abduction event starts.

And from the bar scene the game doesn't immediately jump to the scene with the jumbo jet being abducted -- this was just us jumping around randomly in the demo.

Ivan

05-22-2005, 10:21 AM

No cutscenes? Why?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Micki!

05-22-2005, 10:23 AM

Scott Miller said:
Just a quick note on the video:

It was 100% gameplay. in other words, this game is like Half-Life, in that you are always playing the game from the main characters perspective, and there are no cut-scenes. I've seen a lot of people mistakenly think that the opening bar seen is like a cut-scene, but this is all playable. In the real game, for example, you'll be able to interact with the video game machines, the jukebox, characters (there will be other chars in this final game in the bar), and explore the area before the abduction event starts.

And from the bar scene the game doesn't immediately jump to the scene with the jumbo jet being abducted -- this was just us jumping around randomly in the demo.

Sounds cool...
But i suggest it won't be as interactive as DNF... right..?!

And about the 'playing with stuff before getting abducted' thing, i can already imageine that 'just' when i'm about to get a highscore in a pinball game... the UFO will destroy the whole place, and abduct the pinball machine...

"NOOO, That was my highest score ever..." http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

Scott Miller

05-22-2005, 10:24 AM

Oh, one more thing -- this wasn't a video, even though me and everyone else refers to it as one! It was a demo playback script running on top of the engine in real-time. So the game was running as if being played, but it was the demo script doing the playing.

It was only on day two that we realized that a lot of people watching it thought it was a video, so we started to announce that it was a real-time demo script.

Cerberus_e

05-22-2005, 10:24 AM

ivan: because of the immersivement I think.

Micki!

05-22-2005, 10:25 AM

Scott Miller said:
Oh, one more thing -- this wasn't a video, even though me and everyone else refers to it as one! It was a demo playback script running on top of the engine in real-time. So the game was running as if being played, but it was the demo script doing the playing.

It was only on day two that we realized that a lot of people watching it thought it was a video, so we started to announce that it was a real-time demo script.

Con...fu...sing... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Cerberus_e

05-22-2005, 10:26 AM

Micki! said:

Scott Miller said:
Oh, one more thing -- this wasn't a video, even though me and everyone else refers to it as one! It was a demo playback script running on top of the engine in real-time. So the game was running as if being played, but it was the demo script doing the playing.

It was only on day two that we realized that a lot of people watching it thought it was a video, so we started to announce that it was a real-time demo script.

Con...fu...sing... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

it's a demo, for example in duke3d, when you start the game, a demo is running too, not a video.
it's the same in prey, the demo script was running, just like in duke3d when you start the game (you don't play, the """computer""" plays, and follows a scripted traject)

Scott Miller

05-22-2005, 10:27 AM

No cut-scenes, you ask? Well, because we want to keep the player immersed in the game itself, with all events happening from the player's perspective. In our opinion, it undermines the immersion factor if the camera suddenly leaves the player's eyes and shows the scene from a third-person perspective.

I think the Half-Life games have shown that third-person cut-scenes are simply unnecessary, as long as the in-game scripted events are well done.

Cerberus_e

05-22-2005, 10:30 AM

but the problem in HL is that you miss cutscenes sometimes, even when you explore everything and take your time.
also, a cutscene is nice for relaxing a bit http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Malgon

05-22-2005, 10:30 AM

Well I am happy that the video was all gameplay, and that no major plot points were given away. Just a video of what we would be playing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Cerberus_e

05-22-2005, 10:31 AM

Scott: another question, do you plan on releasing the WHOLE demo in high quality? or just a few snippets like the fileshack video?

Ivan

05-22-2005, 10:32 AM

Scott Miller said:
No cut-scenes, you ask? Well, because we want to keep the player immersed in the game itself, with all events happening from the player's perspective. In our opinion, it undermines the immersion factor if the camera suddenly leaves the player's eyes and shows the scene from a third-person perspective.

I think the Half-Life games have shown that third-person cut-scenes are simply unnecessary, as long as the in-game scripted events are well done.

Heh okay I see your point of view, good choice, and thanks for answering my question. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Scott Miller

05-22-2005, 10:56 AM

We'll make a video of the whole demo and release it. Can't give you a time frame, yet. It's something we'll be discussing this week. We definitely want to get a good quality video in everyone's hands.

Vexed

05-22-2005, 10:58 AM

Ivan said:
No cutscenes? Why?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Cause prey has a pair of testicles. I mean, a real man stays in controll, riiiiiiiiight? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Ronald McDonald

05-22-2005, 10:58 AM

Bink format plz http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

On another note:

Are you relieved that the Prey bashing has stopped after the nay-sayers saw the shaky cam video?

Vexed

05-22-2005, 10:59 AM

As long as there's a easy way to watch it frame by frame, I'll be happy.

Cerberus_e

05-22-2005, 11:08 AM

ronald: what's the big advantage of bink format then?
also, thanks scott for your reply

Ronald McDonald

05-22-2005, 11:14 AM

It looks like it's actual ingame with a good bink format movie.

The 12 min gameplay movie in bink needs to be about 400-500 MB to actually look ingame enough.

edit: typo

tpz

05-22-2005, 12:30 PM

Like it can't/won't when it's encoded with divx. Sure Bink is a nice codec, but I believe it's main purpose is that it can be easily integrated into a game. So, after buying a license (wheren't they going to use it for DNF?) for the codec, it seems an obvious choice to me, to also use it for releasing video material on the internet, like 3DR did with the 2001 DNF trailer.

Evil Angel

05-22-2005, 03:29 PM

Scott Miller said:
Just a quick note on the video:

It was 100% gameplay. in other words, this game is like Half-Life, in that you are always playing the game from the main characters perspective, and there are no cut-scenes. I've seen a lot of people mistakenly think that the opening bar seen is like a cut-scene, but this is all playable. In the real game, for example, you'll be able to interact with the video game machines, the jukebox, characters (there will be other chars in this final game in the bar), and explore the area before the abduction event starts.

And from the bar scene the game doesn't immediately jump to the scene with the jumbo jet being abducted -- this was just us jumping around randomly in the demo.

I was surprised the bar scene wasn't an intro video. In game you say? Now I'm even more impressed http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Sounds like fun with all the interactive bits. Looking forward to the video. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Cerberus_e

05-22-2005, 03:42 PM

looking forward to find a bug so I can hide somewhere in the bar without the alienship picking me up http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Vexed

05-22-2005, 03:51 PM

Evil Angel said:

I was surprised the bar scene wasn't an intro video. In game you say? Now I'm even more impressed http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Sounds like fun with all the interactive bits. Looking forward to the video. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Really? The way the camera moved didn't tip you off?

hell-angel

05-23-2005, 01:55 AM

Cerberus_e said:
ronald: what's the big advantage of bink format then?

The advantage of the bink format is that the codec and the player are shipped with the video, whence you don't need anything installed on you computer, the downside is the increase in size.
I prefer avi or wmv. wmv because it is smaller then most other formats and still give a good quality/size ratio. imo that is. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Antosa

05-24-2005, 03:28 AM

Ronald McDonald said:
It looks like it's actual ingame with a good bink format movie.

The 12 min gameplay movie in bink needs to be about 400-500 MB to actually look ingame enough.

edit: typo

I prefer 2-3 min but in high quality exemple wmv-HD. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

lvlmaster

05-27-2005, 09:31 PM

pc.ign.com (http://pc.ign.com)

Eclipse

05-27-2005, 09:54 PM

lvlmaster said:
pc.ign.com (http://pc.ign.com)

Awesome. Downloading now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Edit: Watched it, still convinced that this game is going to be awesome http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Gryph

05-27-2005, 10:04 PM

Woohoo! Thanks lvlmaster! Downloading the low quality quicktime. Hopefully somebody will be able to hook us up with the High quality. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Or I'll just wait for the near DVD quality on xStream.

Micki!

05-28-2005, 03:19 AM

already posted my opinion in the other thread... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
This is going to be one of the Coolest games of 2006... I think... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SyntaxN

05-28-2005, 05:56 AM

This is going to be one of the Coolest games of 2006... I think...

Don´t say that, what will happen when *it* will be released in 2006? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Rider

05-28-2005, 06:08 AM

PreyHQ forums have a high-quality version somewhere...

Cerberus_e

05-28-2005, 06:43 AM

SyntaxN said:

This is going to be one of the Coolest games of 2006... I think...

Don´t say that, what will happen when *it* will be released in 2006? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

ONE OF the best games he said http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
and maybe prey will be better than DNF, because DNF hasn't showed ANY good gameplay features yet, prey did, and not a little bit.

Micki!

05-28-2005, 07:16 AM

Cerberus_e said:

SyntaxN said:

This is going to be one of the Coolest games of 2006... I think...

Don´t say that, what will happen when *it* will be released in 2006? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

ONE OF the best games he said http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
and maybe prey will be better than DNF, because DNF hasn't showed ANY good gameplay features yet, prey did, and not a little bit.

I'd expect 3DR to show something EVEN cooler with DNF when it's done... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

But untill then, i'm seeing foward to Prey...
But DNF will still be my Primary 'target'... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Spooger

05-28-2005, 07:23 AM

So far, 3Drealms is either the producer or the developer for my most anticipated games this year. Prey, Alan Wake, and DNF are at the top of my list.

Gears of War is on it, too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

edit: by this year, I guess I mean 2005/2006 (y'know, considering 'when it's done' could be, well, whenever)

Kristian Joensen

05-28-2005, 09:13 AM

Ehh, 3D Realms aren't the producer of Alan Wake. But however they published Death Rally and produced the Max Payne games.

Spooger

05-28-2005, 09:45 AM

Kristian Joensen said:
Ehh, 3D Realms aren't the producer of Alan Wake. But however they published Death Rally and produced the Max Payne games.

Yikes, I guess my excitement for Alan Wake just snuck in there. Thanks for the correction (though, Alan Wake is *still* near the top of my list http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)

Kristian Joensen

05-28-2005, 09:47 AM

But the question remains where would Remedy be without 3D Realms ?

I am sure Remedy are extremely happy about their cooperation with 3D Realms and Apogee on Death Rally, Max Payne and Max Payne 2.

Ivan

05-28-2005, 09:50 AM

Gryph

05-28-2005, 12:23 PM

And lots and lots of cash. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Joe Siegler

06-01-2005, 10:10 AM

Kristian Joensen said:
But the question remains where would Remedy be without 3D Realms ?

I am sure Remedy are extremely happy about their cooperation with 3D Realms and Apogee on Death Rally, Max Payne and Max Payne 2.

Remedy is a good enough developer on their own, if they hadn't been involved with us, I'm sure they would have made it anyway. That's not to say we didn't help things along - we did, but to imply that they wouldn't be anywhere without us is unfair to Remedy.

But this is really off the topic. This is supposed to be about the Prey video guys. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Kristian Joensen

06-01-2005, 10:21 AM

The Prey video is extraordinarly great.

Joe, I think you are misunderstanding me. I am in no way, shape or form questioning Remedy's enormous qualitiy as a developer.

But the think is that you funded a large part of Max Payne's development. If they instead of approaching you approaching Take Two. They would propable have gotting the standard deal with the publisher "funding"(really just provinding advances) the development of the game. In such a scenario Take Two would probaply have owned the IP and had full creative control. This would lead to Max Payne beeing rushed on the account of Take Two.

This could have resulted in financial problem for Remedy wich could have lead to their demise and a acquisition y Take Two.

TBZ

06-03-2005, 11:13 AM

Has anybody else seen that the Prey video is on xStream now?

Cerberus_e

06-03-2005, 11:32 AM

really? I'll check it out when I'm on my computer with xStream, thanks for the info if it's reliable info http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Joe Siegler

06-03-2005, 12:38 PM

TBZ said:
Has anybody else seen that the Prey video is on xStream now?

Yeah, the video is out and about from us now. Aside from xStream, there's links here:

Fileshack (http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=7142)

Fileplanet (http://www.fileplanet.com/154175/150000/fileinfo/Prey-Footage)

3D Gamers (http://www.3dgamers.com/news/more/1096481974/)

Filefront (http://files.filefront.com/Prey_E3_2005_Presentation_Movie/;3863526;;/fileinfo.html)

Cerberus_e

06-03-2005, 12:51 PM

what quality difference is there between the links you gave and xstream?

Reaper

06-03-2005, 03:01 PM

Is it any different than the IGN footage released a while back?

Cerberus_e

06-03-2005, 03:14 PM

A_Llama

06-03-2005, 04:07 PM

I think it's probably the same version as the ign one, but gamershell have high-res version up: http://www.gamershell.com/news/22525.html

Invertol

06-03-2005, 04:19 PM

http://www.fz.se/filarkiv/?file=mov/prey/E305PreyVideo.zip

Rider

06-03-2005, 05:41 PM

Just showing my appreciation for Xstream... I was just going to stream the Prey video on there and about 10 seconds into the movie I got this window saying that my bitrate wasn't enough to stream the movie...

and it ASKED if I wanted to download it instead!

So now I'm downloading the BIG version http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

vivftp

06-03-2005, 05:52 PM

Oooh.. new video?

How large is this XStream one?

Please post comparisons to the IGN one in terms of quality http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Parkar

06-03-2005, 06:12 PM

If you ask me the ign(high quality version) was better and brighter then the xstream version. Didn't watch more then the bar scene though.

Simon Charles

06-03-2005, 06:17 PM

1) If I were a professionnal game developer, I'd love to have 3DR backing me up. They know good games, and I'd be flattered if they saw potential in my stuff. Talks about 3DR being evil and becoming "just a greedy publisher" sounds silly IMO.

2) The Prey video now looks even more awesome in its full resolution glory. This looks like a fun shooter, and I would get a copy.

3) The only thing that bothered me was the complete absence of hands holding the guns. You see Tommy's hands as he pushes switches, but not when he holds or shoots weapons. (Okay, you see his hands when he uses that bug granade thing but still, it looked odd to me.)

Anyone else had the feeling of watching a weightless gun just floating around? It put me off a bit.

Vexed

06-03-2005, 06:22 PM

I didn't even notice it untill you mentioned it. I guess I'm not bothered by it then. Does seem kind of odd.

ps: Not sure what thread people were discussing the rocketlauncher/grenadelauncher thing in, but it's definately a grenadelauncher. You can see the grenade bouncing off the wall at one point.

Malgon

06-04-2005, 02:39 AM

I think the weapons are more organic like, being alien tech. I reckon they might just slip over Tommy's arm. Thats logical to me, and just my thought on it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Simon Charles

06-04-2005, 05:02 AM

Malgon said:

I think the weapons are more organic like, being alien tech. I reckon they might just slip over Tommy's arm. Thats logical to me, and just my thought on it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good point.

Cerberus_e

06-04-2005, 06:08 AM

what if you kill your organic weapons then http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Karthik

06-05-2005, 02:47 AM

Yeah the demo does have some visual oddity like the floating gun, but you have to understand that the game is still in the beta stage. I wouldn't even be surprised if the scene where the girl kills the boy get cut.

vivftp

06-05-2005, 03:05 AM

Well finally saw this newer video... very nice.

Ya know, I think it actually looks better than the IGN one... for whatever reason it just jumps out of the screen more than the other video...

Vroomfondel

06-05-2005, 03:09 AM

Karthik said:
Yeah the demo does have some visual oddity like the floating gun, but you have to understand that the game is still in the beta stage. I wouldn't even be surprised if the scene where the girl kills the boy get cut.

In the video I saw they were both girls. In fact it was the exact same model. Is it a boy in other versions?

Malgon

06-05-2005, 03:14 AM

Yeah in the shaky cam footage, I always got the impression that it was a boy and a girl in the same room. But in the High quality avi (from Fileplanet) it appears to be two girls. Am I confusing something here?

Everytime I watch it, I always pick up something different that I never noticed before, between the shaky cam, quicktime low and now the HQ avi. Anyone else spot more stuff they never noticed after each viewing?

BTW the prey.avi one has very nice detail indeed. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Vroomfondel

06-05-2005, 03:28 AM

Malgon said:
Yeah in the shaky cam footage, I always got the impression that it was a boy and a girl in the same room. But in the High quality avi (from Fileplanet) it appears to be two girls. Am I confusing something here?

It's definately 2 girls in the shakycam footage as well. If you look carefully you can clearly see the pony tails. (very nice physics on the pony tails by the way, on the people in the bar as well).

Karthik

06-05-2005, 06:16 AM

Eh, I saw the 3DGamers one and it looked like a boy and a girl....one moment let me check.....my bad it's a girl and a girl! I didn't notice the pig tails on the other girl! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Dr.Dude

06-05-2005, 10:56 AM

The Prey video is amazing. It's probably jumped straight to the top of my "most anticipated games list" just by both this video and of course, 3dr's involvement.

I think my favorite thing might actually be the wall-walking and reverse-gravity devices. I love that sort of reality-altering detail in games (The gravity-distorting death traps were my favorite part in Serious Sam, for instance), and Prey seems like its going to bring it to a whole new level.

And it's still hard to believe that Prey is actually happening. I had accepted it as a dead project for so long that suddenly seeing it on the cover of PC Gamer caused a total geek orgasm experience. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

Simon Charles

06-05-2005, 08:31 PM

Yeah, it's two girls.

Gotta admit that scene bothered me. I know it's a mature game but showing a child getting killed is really pushing it, especially empaling her on a metal spike. They could have made the possessed girl beat up the other and it still would have been effective. It's ok, we get it : one of the girl suddently becomes stronger, quicker, and more violent. No need to hack a child's body to make us understand.

vivftp

06-05-2005, 09:06 PM

Simon Charles said:
Yeah, it's two girls.

Gotta admit that scene bothered me. I know it's a mature game but showing a child getting killed is really pushing it, especially empaling her on a metal spike. They could have made the possessed girl beat up the other and it still would have been effective. It's ok, we get it : one of the girl suddently becomes stronger, quicker, and more violent. No need to hack a child's body to make us understand.

Which would reduce the effectiveness in the introduction of this enemy (assuming that was the introduction scene of that particular enemy).

Sometimes you just need to have something to make you go, "oh crap! ... damn!". This isn't THAT high up in that particular scale, but it's there...

And since Prey is to be a very serious, emotional game, you do need to have some scenes like that to set the atmosphere. I prefer games that aren't afraid to push some boundaries - that's what makes them unique, and a pleasure to play (assuming they're done right)

Reaper

06-05-2005, 11:53 PM

I think it looks cartoonish and very poorly done (the girl kills girl part). I don't think the scene is overly graphic, and the scene itself doesn't seem out of place. Hell, even if it is politically uncorrect, I don't see why anyone should give a rat's ass.

vivftp

06-06-2005, 12:43 AM

Reaper said:
I think it looks cartoonish and very poorly done (the girl kills girl part). I don't think the scene is overly graphic, and the scene itself doesn't seem out of place. Hell, even if it is politically uncorrect, I don't see why anyone should give a rat's ass.

Meh, considering the fact that so much of the video is incomplete material, it's possible they'll tweak scenes like that to be more realistic.

Michelangelo

06-06-2005, 03:10 AM

I just watched the vid for the second time and it looks better then the first time...>

It's using some new techniques which are long overdue http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

hell-angel

06-06-2005, 08:26 AM

Michelangelo said:
I just watched the vid for the second time and it looks better then the first time...>

It's using some new techniques which are long overdue http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Seconded. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I watched it for the 10th time (or something) and it still looks great. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

avatar_58

06-23-2005, 08:47 AM

I just watched the high quality video and it made me want prey even more than the shaky cam. Nice work 3dr and HH http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Orochi Avlis

06-24-2005, 08:52 PM

I just put it running on a projector during a LAN party at college.
Everybody thought it was incredible.

I must admit, it looks so good on a huge screen.

Soilwork

06-24-2005, 10:05 PM

Orochi Avlis said:
I just put it running on a projector during a LAN party at college.
Everybody thought it was incredible.

I must admit, it looks so good on a huge screen.

Good man.

Orochi Avlis

06-24-2005, 10:19 PM

They were horrified, but at the same time amazed, at the little girl scene.

Soilwork

06-24-2005, 10:28 PM

Why the ***** do people get so freaked out over that scene?

As gamers, we've seen much, much worse.

I just don't see the big deal in it, but then again.. i'm a sadistic s.o.b.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Orochi Avlis

06-25-2005, 06:50 PM

They thought it was brutal, but they still loved it.

Looks just freakin incredible on the big screen.

hell-angel

06-27-2005, 01:29 AM

Soilwork said:
Why the ***** do people get so freaked out over that scene?

Because most people are wimps. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/devilish.gif

Descent

06-27-2005, 06:59 AM

That looks actually good, but I'm going to be honest:

It didn't make alot of sense, in that bar for example, why the hell did that space ship take you?
Then, suddenly after like 10 seconds you have a weapon and you're exploring some space station.

The other thing, is that I think that all the animations are "cartoony-like". The enemys attack like they have uberpowers, if they would be able to throw a ball with that speed, the ball would burn up after 10 meters in the air.

Else it looks brilliant! good job 3dr! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kristian Joensen

06-27-2005, 07:15 AM

And don't forget Human Head Studios. Also as I understand it those aren't connected scenes. The elevator scene is as I understand not rigth after the bar scene.

hell-angel

06-27-2005, 09:22 AM

Kristian Joensen said:
And don't forget Human Head Studios. Also as I understand it those aren't connected scenes. The elevator scene is as I understand not rigth after the bar scene.

correct, that was just some stuff from actual gameplay and the only thing those "scenes" have in common is that they come from the same game, they where NOT connected to each other. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I wouldn't be supprised if they where not chronological as well. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Don't fear, I am ure that they come up with a plausible way for you to get a gun. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Cerberus_e

06-27-2005, 09:56 AM

hmmm... good point hell-angel, what plasible way will they think of to give you a gun?

I hope it's not the cliched *smash a guard and take his gun* way

the chronicles of riddick had a good excuse

FireFly

06-27-2005, 01:06 PM

It's easy. The gun is just lying there. Is that so bad?

Descent

06-27-2005, 01:20 PM

Well, in normal environments guns aren't lying around wasting :P

But that's not a normal environment, so I guess this is okay.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Cerberus_e

06-27-2005, 02:16 PM

FireFly said:
It's easy. The gun is just lying there. Is that so bad?

HUH???
have you played the chronicles of riddick?
you had to put your DNA in the computer first before you could get a gun.
that was something special

FireFly

06-27-2005, 02:48 PM

Yes, I've played it. However you still just picked up a guard's gun, as it is in every other game. In fact weapons were introduced first in the dream level, when a guard shot you with an empty shotgun! Realism? Hah!

Damien_Azreal

06-27-2005, 03:01 PM

Everytime I download it I only get sound, but no picture. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif And everywhere I go I get windows media player only.

I'm not a member of IGN, but are they the only place that has the 280MB high res Quick time version?

Cerberus_e

06-27-2005, 03:33 PM

FireFly said:
Yes, I've played it. However you still just picked up a guard's gun, as it is in every other game. In fact weapons were introduced first in the dream level, when a guard shot you with an empty shotgun! Realism? Hah!

but that's the training http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I mean, there are games where you have to pickup a gun by just hitting the enemy with a crowbar, chroicles of riddick makes it more realistic and fun and exciting by letting you insert your DNA

FireFly

06-27-2005, 03:55 PM

Cerberus_e said:
but that's the training http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Yeah, but it's part of the games story, so according to me it's part of the game.

I mean, there are games where you have to pickup a gun by just hitting the enemy with a crowbar,

No, that's not how you get your first weapon in HL and Deus Ex http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

chroicles of riddick makes it more realistic and fun and exciting by letting you insert your DNA

But it doesn't change the fact that you're still just killing a guard and taking his weapon.

It felt good when you finally got a firearm in your hands, and the explanation was a nice touch, but it's still the same 'kill guard and take his weapon' mechanic.

Descent

06-27-2005, 04:17 PM

chroicles of riddick makes it more realistic and fun and exciting by letting you insert your DNA

But it doesn't change the fact that you're still just killing a guard and taking his weapon.

It felt good when you finally got a firearm in your hands, and the explanation was a nice touch, but it's still the same 'kill guard and take his weapon' mechanic.

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That's one good thing, when you play the game, you aren't meant to actually remember that, it's created to just impress the player with some visual goodies!

vivftp

06-27-2005, 04:35 PM

How do you get your first gun? Easy, some redneck left his gun in that pickup truck we see get brought onto the alien ship, and yoiu find it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Since they're sucking up so many times, it's very plausible to think that there might be some things you could use as a weapon that'd be sucked up as well.

Cerberus_e

06-27-2005, 05:20 PM

organic guns sucked up from earth? not too sure http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

because you don't fight with guns from earth in prey

Cerberus_e

06-27-2005, 05:37 PM

Damien_Azreal said:
Everytime I download it I only get sound, but no picture. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif And everywhere I go I get windows media player only.

I'm not a member of IGN, but are they the only place that has the 280MB high res Quick time version?

just download it off X-stream, you have the internet connection for it now....

and btw, maybe you don't have the correct codecs, maybe the video uses divX I don't know...

vivftp

06-27-2005, 07:31 PM

Cerberus_e said:
organic guns sucked up from earth? not too sure http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

because you don't fight with guns from earth in prey

Well there's a wrench, so at least SOMETHING got sucked up from Earth you can use as a weapon http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anyways, I don't think we ever really got confirmation that EVERY weapon (other than the wrench) was an alien, organic style weapon. From what we've seen, that does seem to be the case, however

hell-angel

06-28-2005, 01:36 AM

I don't think we have any worries about weapons, 3DR have proved in the past that they are very capable of selecting a good "group of people" for a special type of game and guiding them real well. I have fait that they are doing the same to HH. That game will rock and all the weapons will fit the game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

As for a plausible way of getting a weapons, maybe we "spirit walk" our way through the beginning part of the game in order to get a weapon, or (more likely) we start with a bow and arrows which got sucked up from the bar we begin in. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

fritzchen1

07-01-2005, 05:25 AM

I did watch the highquality video at university lately.
I must confess I was amazed by the beauty of this game! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
Nothing compared to the lowquality video...

Good work HumanHead and 3DRealms!

hell-angel

07-01-2005, 05:29 AM

fritzchen1 said:
I did watch the highquality video at university lately.
I must confess I was amazed by the beauty of this game! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
Nothing compared to the lowquality video...

Good work HumanHead and 3DRealms!

Yeah, this game really rocks, I wonder what else they have thought of to put in the game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif