Maps Design (How to..!?)

[King]

Ok before lemme say that i'm a "NEWBIE" for the maps design... And I can't even make one! I'm trying but it's too much simple... I want it beautiful like the Alejandro's Maps images/icons/wink.gif

Okay... Okay... I can make sectors, make door (open and close [any styles]), make tranparent things... But I need to make it professionnal! I need a good Text file that explain (A TO Z), HOW TO MAKE COOL, NICE, GREAT, PERFECT, PROFESSIONNAL, GENIOUS MAPS!

Second thing, Each time I try to make one, after some day i'm working on them, the build seen to be "crashing" (the graphics are going same as a mirror... it fuc* like my old computer images/icons/mad.gif . Do you know what i'm talking about?). It append When i'm erasing a sector... (I'm moving a point on another one and this is erasing...). Can you tell me how can we erase a sector without any "Bugs"? Why this bug come? I try to be very serious but a bug come at the _Good_ moment.

Thanks yo guys images/icons/frown.gif

[B.T. Clegg]

Well, my friend, I don't know how much help I can be, but I will try...

I do not know anyone who did not start out great. Every builder I have encountered started out sucky, and went up from there with practice, practice, practice.

How to make a great map? Ehh...You can pick up tutorials (there are plenty out there, you just have to look) that will tell you everything Build is capable of performing. But other than that, you will have to piece a map together on your own. You know, practice.

I don't know of any good Build tutorial websites, but I'm sure any of these other fine gentlemen will gladly help.

-SpaceRanger3000

[alejandro]

For Build tutorials and stuff go to http://www.planetduke.com/jsbuild

To make a cool map imagine a cool room/area and then start building, and don't stop until it looks exactly as you imagined it.

[Guest]

^ My, that sounds familiar. images/icons/wink.gif

But yeah, the key is to NOT get impatient and move on to new rooms, focus on what you're doing and keep improving on it till it looks as good as it possibly can, then move on. OF course the first few times you do this you'll get ridiculously detailed, stupidly small maps, but as you gain experience you'll learn to distribute detail where it's needed most and make decent sized maps with awesome design.

[Mikko Sandt]

Yes spend lots of time with each room. Also take a look at other good levels and get inspiratoin and see what kind of styles they use - however don't copy.

[Phoenix]

Hello King, click on my sig (SST files) and download J. Bishop's Build FAQs, at the 'files page.

I only made(make) SST maps. I make drawings, and start building a map. I play it, and change the map until it plays very good. Then I do details, shading etc.
I think to have fun with Build is the main thing, 'cause in the end that is all what is left.

[Roger]

I second what BT said. We all sucked as mappers when we first started.

[King]

--Wow...

To make a cool map imagine a cool room/area and then start building, and don't stop until it looks exactly as you imagined it. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">--You're right!

Yes spend lots of time with each room. Also take a look at other good levels and get inspiratoin and see what kind of styles they use - however don't copy. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">--The time.... Someone can definate it ? My style? I want it looks like strange images/icons/grin.gif Like all the Moon Maps images/icons/wink.gif

Hello King, click on my sig (SST files) and download J. Bishop's Build FAQs, at the 'files page. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">--I'm a french... I can talk english easly but... Do you already read a French file if you are englich? Build docs are sooooo long images/icons/frown.gif

We all sucked as mappers when we first started. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">--So, I'm not the only one... oufff images/icons/tongue.gif . Seriously, How much time I can develop my ability? How much time I will be able to make a "GREAT" map?

Thanks you so much guys! images/icons/smile.gif All of you guys gave me the courage... I think I'll cry... images/icons/wink.gif

[Roger]

How long will it take for you to develop decent maps? It depends. It ranges from a week to about two months, I'd say. Took me about a month to get good, another month to get REALLY good. I use some rarely used stuff, including something whence the player can bust out a ceiling window and fall into an apartment, gradual shade changing as the player falls down a hole, and smooth shading. This stuff is not as difficult a beginner might think.

[King]

Okay images/icons/grin.gif

hmm someone know how to make a "sky" (like the Spin Cycle map in Duke Nukem)?

I searched but none docs about this...

Thanks images/icons/smile.gif

A map example with small Text file that explain hot to make it should be appreciated images/icons/wink.gif

Send it to:

( netzone@ca.tc OR My FTP ~FTP~ (ftp://duke:duke@dukezone.idleplay.net/) )

Thanks a lot! images/icons/wink.gif

[alejandro]

To make an sky press P and it's done images/icons/grin.gif

[Carger2000]

Deleting sector that way will get BUILD to crash...(indeed)

Joining sectors J->J is your best bet.

Or delete whole areas with R-Control+DEL. (Save first because its risky)

[sangluss]

Wel, if you are a French guy, then mail to Pascal Rouaud, I'm sure he can help you...Its a French also. mailto: pascalrouaud@hotmail.com

[sangluss]

Originally posted by alejandro:
To make an sky press P and it's done images/icons/grin.gif <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thats right...But he probably means that you only see a sky. If you press P you'll see the walls also.

No, you better first make one *very* (not needed to turn grid lock of) press p on the floor and on the sky, Then make another sector (bigger then the first one) also have two P's and press PAGE DOWN on the sky until your build sight is squished by the ceiling. Then go to 2D mode and look to the window...What do you see images/icons/grin.gif ?

[Roger]

Maybe this will help:
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Press ALT+S on the inner box from 2D map mode, which makes this an island sector.[/code]</blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Press "P" on all the floors and ceilings. Drop the outside sector to the floor, leaving no space. Make the red lines of the inner sector pink so that they are impassible. If you leave them red, that will allow the player to go into that sector but be crushed, which is useful for some things.

[ 04-16-2002, 08:23 AM: Message edited by: Roger ]

[sangluss]

Yeah, you can do it that way to, but isn'it easier if you do it my way?

I know, I know, you wouldn't be able to have a space ship there, but thats nothing to worry about...

[King]

Yes good idea images/icons/smile.gif I'm not the guy that "theif" the peoples's ideas... I just want to learn about "How to make a good map" images/icons/grin.gif

There is my email images/icons/smile.gif

d.dion1@sympatico.ca

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You can send me your own maps (for you all guys)

Thanks.

[Roger]

Download EDuke then download this tutorial (http://blaster_b4m.tripod.com/maps.tutorial.map) that I got from Map FAQ and updated.

[Kef Nukem]

Originally posted by sangluss:
Wel, if you are a French guy, then mail to Pascal Rouaud, I'm sure he can help you...Its a French also. mailto: pascalrouaud@hotmail.com<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think he will not appreciate this!

[sangluss]

Eh, why not?

King, together with Tijmen (a friend from the neigberhood) I'm making a city map...Give me your mail and I'll send you. Its not a good map, but it can give you some ideas...