GTA: Liberty City Stories (PSP) [Archive]

Hudson

06-28-2005, 07:28 PM

Just got the newest Official Playstation mag and it has a huge feature on GTA:LBS

- It is not a port of GTA III (an entire new game set in Liberty City)
- It takes place 2-3 years before the events in GTA III
- It's bigger than GTA III but smaller than GTA:VC
- Motorcycles have been confirmed
- You play as Toni Cipriani (remember him from GTA III?)

Backstory:

Cipriani clips a made man under orders of Don Leone and leaves town. As the dust settles, he returns to Liberty City and starts to work his way up the Leone chain of command.

I would love to dive into this but don't have the time at the moment, just thought you guys would want to know.

I'll scan the whole article and upload it somewhere as soon as I get the chance.

Gryph

06-28-2005, 07:29 PM

Is this going to be on the PS3 or PSP?

Hudson

06-28-2005, 07:31 PM

I changed the thread title to not confuse anyone, It's a PSP exclusive.

Claws

06-28-2005, 08:15 PM

Who was Toni Cipriani again? I finished GTA3 but I can't remember...

John

06-28-2005, 08:24 PM

He was the guy who lived above that italian shop. His mother always nagged him about stuff. He was the first guy to get you fighting the Chinese gang.

pjohnsonjr

06-28-2005, 08:55 PM

Claws said:
Who was Toni Cipriani again? I finished GTA3 but I can't remember...

The character is voiced by Michael Madsen. Was the mob guy who had the momma complex in GTA III. His missions were at Momma's Restaurante in St. Marks area of Portland. He is the guy who calls Lazlow on Chatterbox complaining about his mom and getting mad at Lazlow for calling him Toni (even though he said his name at the beginning of the call).

In his missions he really wanted to stick it to the Triads.

on another note:

I hope this game only fills in any "holes" in the story weaved between GTA III, VC and SA and not re-do the storyline. I also hope that it's a strong story and takes alot of the "style" from GTA III because it fit that Modern day NY style.

Claws

06-28-2005, 10:15 PM

pjohnsonjr said:

Claws said:
Who was Toni Cipriani again? I finished GTA3 but I can't remember...

The character is voiced by Michael Madsen. Was the mob guy who had the momma complex in GTA III. His missions were at Momma's Restaurante in St. Marks area of Portland. He is the guy who calls Lazlow on Chatterbox complaining about his mom and getting mad at Lazlow for calling him Toni (even though he said his name at the beginning of the call).

In his missions he really wanted to stick it to the Triads.

on another note:

I hope this game only fills in any "holes" in the story weaved between GTA III, VC and SA and not re-do the storyline. I also hope that it's a strong story and takes alot of the "style" from GTA III because it fit that Modern day NY style.

Damn I still can't remember him, I do remember the triad missions though...

Paroxysm

06-28-2005, 10:32 PM

I hate how the draw distance is even shorter than the original PS2 GTA3. I know I shouldn't be too graphic focused, but for a 3d GTA it's kinda important.

pjohnsonjr

06-28-2005, 10:42 PM

I haven't read too much into it, what are they saying the draw distance is... Hypothetically if you're standing from the base of the Staunton Bridge near the basketball court in Chinatown, would you be able to see the skyrises in Staunton Island?

Meaning can you see from one island to another (not from the first to the third).

Mountain Man

06-28-2005, 10:50 PM

Short draw distance sucks for a game with such an emphasis on driving. The limited draw distance in Vice City for the PC drove me nuts because pedestrains and vehicles would appear out of thin air right in front of me.

pjohnsonjr

06-28-2005, 10:51 PM

Sounds like I wasn't the only one with that problem. Did you ever get points where you'd have a loading... box pop up because you were cruising and the objects couldn't refresh quick enough?

Hudson

06-29-2005, 01:38 AM

Alright I got the article scanned, I just need somewhere to host it. It comes out at 3.5mb

Hudson

06-29-2005, 02:28 AM

Fxck it, i'll upload the individual pages:

Cover Page (http://img170.echo.cx/img170/5647/opmcover2rn.jpg)

Page #1 (http://img170.echo.cx/img170/3594/feat014mr.jpg)

Page #2 (http://img170.echo.cx/img170/5020/feat024ne.jpg)

Page #3 (http://img143.echo.cx/img143/5770/feat036tc.jpg)

Page #4 (http://img197.echo.cx/img197/9961/feat042jb.jpg)

Page #5 (http://img204.echo.cx/img204/2875/feat059gh.jpg)

Page #6 (http://img204.echo.cx/img204/1192/feat068wh.jpg)

Page #7 (Interview with Dan Houser) (http://img107.echo.cx/img107/7531/feat070jt.jpg)

Page #8 (http://img179.echo.cx/img179/8695/feat088oq.jpg)

This game looks like it's going to kick some serious ass http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif The fact that it's on a handheld is mind blowing.

Ruger

06-29-2005, 03:18 AM

Thanks for those Hudson. I just wish I had the extra cash for a PSP. I'd buy it if they knocked a hundred bucks off the price maybe. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Nacho

06-29-2005, 09:20 AM

I may buy a PSP now.

Mr.Blud

06-29-2005, 11:07 AM

This and Burnout are the only reasons I'm considering buying a PSP.

I'll probably wait for a price drop or two though.

pjohnsonjr

06-29-2005, 11:18 AM

I wonder how or even if you can go into certain buildings of Liberty City, akin to the Mall in Vice City or the many buildings in San Andreas. I understand if they're saving that for PS3 or something, but as a fan of this series, especially the storyline I'd like to see what they can do with it to keep it fresh.

As long as it doesn't get to 70's Batman & Robin or Superfriends styleized, or like a fledgling show that brings in cameos of known people left and right to help the show... I'll be buying a copy.

Nacho

06-29-2005, 11:22 AM

Yeah, they never mentioned if you could go into buildings. It was something that bugged me because I want to be able to go into some.

seregrail7

06-29-2005, 12:41 PM

Hudson said:
- It is not a port of GTA III (an entire new game set in Liberty City)
- It's bigger than GTA III but smaller than GTA:VC

So Libery City shrunk in those 2-3 years? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

pjohnsonjr

06-29-2005, 01:07 PM

That's not what it means...

The game content will have more to do than III did, but not as much content as Vice City as far as the entire game missions.

Liberty City is a smaller map than Vice City. San Andreas overshadows both.

Hudson

06-29-2005, 02:00 PM

pjohnsonjr said:
That's not what it means...

The game content will have more to do than III did, but not as much content as Vice City as far as the entire game missions.

Correct.

seregrail7

06-29-2005, 03:17 PM

I know, I was only kidding. I suspect they'll have opened up some of the buildings though. I hope it's good, are Rockstar Noth developing it? Or another part of Rockstar?

Nessus

06-29-2005, 03:29 PM

I hope the put alot of effort into making just googing around fun. More often than not I think I'll be going on crime spree's and such with no goal in mind. To me San andreas is the worst of them all for just driving around.

When is this out?

JackpotDen

06-29-2005, 05:21 PM

seregrail7 said:
I know, I was only kidding. I suspect they'll have opened up some of the buildings though. I hope it's good, are Rockstar Noth developing it? Or another part of Rockstar?

Think max payne.

Remedy made, 3dr overlooked the progress (with the general R*) and R* released (to my knowledge)/

This is:

R* Leeds makes, R* North overlooks, R* main publishes.

Dr. Kill

06-30-2005, 02:08 PM

they should've made it for ps2 at least. I'm not buying another handheld, I hate those little screens. This really pisses me off cause I want the game, just not the hand held... this sucks!

Lengis

06-30-2005, 02:42 PM

Dr. Kill said:
they should've made it for ps2 at least. I'm not buying another handheld, I hate those little screens. This really pisses me off cause I want the game, just not the hand held... this sucks!

Great idea, lets not make any good games for the PSP. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

People buy consoles because they want a game that's exclusive to that platform. If they made it for PS2, no one would be motivated to buy a PSP, which is what Sony wants. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

John

06-30-2005, 03:04 PM

Pffffffft, my PSP is already playing N64 games. Whatchu talkin bout Sir Gix Alot? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

(This is a joke... I Dont even own a PSP. But when I do...the bastards gonna play N64 games!!!!)

Lengis

06-30-2005, 03:29 PM

Lol, but why not wait for the revolution for N64 games? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

John

06-30-2005, 03:35 PM

Because something tells me that the new games for that won't match the old games they give away.

Which is probably the only reason they are giving all of their old games away. (Although we don't know if its officially FREE yet.)

Let's say Nintendo isnt stupid. Let's say they know that they have slipped in the game department, but they also know kids and adults alike will buy a system that gets them free NES-N64 games.

Now, I'd be completely happy with playing awhole catalogue of games from 1985-2000. But I'd still feel cheap if Nintendo themselves weren't still producing GOOD AND ORIGINAL games, rather than the same stuff from Gamecube.

Dr. Kill

06-30-2005, 07:15 PM

Lengis said:

Dr. Kill said:
they should've made it for ps2 at least. I'm not buying another handheld, I hate those little screens. This really pisses me off cause I want the game, just not the hand held... this sucks!

Great idea, lets not make any good games for the PSP. (that's what I say)

People buy consoles because they want a game that's exclusive to that platform. If they made it for PS2, no one would be motivated to buy a PSP, which is what Sony wants. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

yeah, but I say f*ck the psp. It's not going to sell too good from what I see cause the damn thing is $260 at least. It's the next N-Gage. I see no point in owning a handheld that does ps2 graphics. That's like playin a ps2 on a 2 inch screen. It just seems like a complete waste to me, that's all. If you want it, get it, but I'm keepin my $260 cause the XBox 360 is out this year.

Reaper

07-01-2005, 12:43 PM

John said:
Which is probably the only reason they are giving all of their old games away. (Although we don't know if its officially FREE yet.)

Actually, "we" have known for quite some time that there will be a fee for downloading their older games. I believe it was stated in an interview with someone from Nintendo, which was conducted by 1up.

John

07-01-2005, 03:28 PM

Ok then my point is made further.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

They are trying to make more money on games made ten years ago, inwhich case they have already profitted from once.

Imfamous

07-01-2005, 04:23 PM

I think a lot of the blame on the GC's failure can go to Capcom-soft. Capcom was originally going to work with Nintendo exclusively the way they dead in the SNES days. Then, they kinda stabbed em in the back, and Nintendo didn't have a Plan B.

Uisor

07-03-2005, 10:30 PM

Imfamous said:
I think a lot of the blame on the GC's failure can go to Capcom-soft. Capcom was originally going to work with Nintendo exclusively the way they dead in the SNES days. Then, they kinda stabbed em in the back, and Nintendo didn't have a Plan B.

That exclusive was only for Resident Evil games and it had a a small print that allowed Capcom to release the RE games to another platforms as well.

Lengis

07-04-2005, 12:12 AM

Ya know, I can't really knock what's happening to Nintendo these days. They really did some devious things back in the 80s, and early 90s. They would force developers to develop only for their console, or they couldn't develop for it at all, causing an illegal monopoly. After the gov't found out, they changed the paper work so that the titles would be exclusive to their platform (the NES) for 6 years (more than the lifespan of a console).

After that, they would condemn violent videogames so that stores would not carry Sega's violent games which hit Sega hard, but later became hypocrites when the released MK2 with blood (mostly because the Genesis version of MK1 sold better because the blood was in).

And finally, they kinda screwed over Sony with the whole SNES CD add on thing. Course, Sony got them back in the long run.

John

07-04-2005, 02:11 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong; Sony was originally working for Nintendo back in the SNES days. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

See, now that is irony Cerebreus_e. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

pjohnsonjr

07-04-2005, 05:47 AM

C'mon guys lets not derail this thing with stories of Nintendo allowing commercial access to older incarnations of their IP brands, or Sony's past relationship with Nintendo (they were partners for a time yes. Nothing more to it)...

Back to Liberty City Stories...

I've been looking at the specs of the PSP, and the estimated load it would have to carry to run the game, and by the way Dan Houser was talking, they have a good loading scheme. With the capability that Sony has boasted about their PSP discs, I see the aspect of interiors quite a possibility, Which is good. Maybe we can finally see what Luigi's really looks like or Momma's Restaurante (maybe they'll enhance Leone's mansion, who knows? I'm intrigued and want to know more. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif But all in due time).

Also I'm hoping that each step Rockstar took towards getting accustomed with their technology they were using will show in this, as it'd be nice to see Liberty City in a way where the mechanics of gameplay have been taken cue from SA or VC. Dan Houser himself said that GTA III was them getting their shit out with the problems they faced and trying to get a grasp on their tech. Even today playing GTA III, though the game is great, I do have to admit its stiff and rigid for many reasons (which I will not say here, and besides the game is still great with them in it).

I don't expect them to add to the map, but I really do think that the blocked off tunnel in Shoreside Vale can allow for an expansion, if ever needed (or could be the tunnel to the Carcer City, which was where Claude gets left for dead by that psycho Catalina).

I'm expecting big things from Rockstar North (who really is the lifeforce of the GTA series) in the future, with this game and others. Here's to the future of the series http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Dr. Kill

07-04-2005, 07:37 AM

John said:
Correct me if I'm wrong; Sony was originally working for Nintendo back in the SNES days. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

See, now that is irony Cerebreus_e. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

That's true. And guess what that SNES cd add on was going to be called... the Playstation. Nintendo chickened out of the deal... big mistake. It was supposed to come out in 93 or 94. It was basicly going to be the Nintendo version of Sega CD. Another ironic thing is that with what I just said, Nintendo tried to copy Sega, and now they might end up just like sega (just developing games, not consoles). I guess Nintendo thought the Virtual Boy was a much better idea. Because of this, in the mid 90's, everyone said all at once "wtf, I can only see shades of red, and my eyes hurt!" Another big gaming deal that didn't work out was one that Atari (the REAL one) had with nintendo in the mid 80's. I forget the specifics. All I know is there was a dispute with some unauthorised release of Donkey Kong, and it died. EGM wrote a little about it last month. Remember though, Atari still went on to do great things, like the Jaguar! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

John

07-04-2005, 12:25 PM

I still want a PSP.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Expensive little bastards

avatar_58

07-04-2005, 12:27 PM

Actually, if the SNES had actually gone through with the plan and made the cd add-on it would have kicked ass! It would have been some wierd N64/Playstation hybrid wouldn't it?

Of course, I can think of many games that might never have come out on the n64 if that happened...since the Playstation couldn't handle them so what hope did the snes-cd have?

Lengis

07-04-2005, 12:30 PM

Dr. Kill said:

John said:
Correct me if I'm wrong; Sony was originally working for Nintendo back in the SNES days. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

See, now that is irony Cerebreus_e. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

That's true. And guess what that SNES cd add on was going to be called... the Playstation. Nintendo chickened out of the deal... big mistake.

From their standpoint, it was a good idea because just look what happend with the Sega CD. The big mistake was making an enemy out of Sony, not so much as not making the SNES Playstation.

John

07-04-2005, 12:37 PM

avatar_58 said:
Actually, if the SNES had actually gone through with the plan and made the cd add-on it would have kicked ass! It would have been some wierd N64/Playstation hybrid wouldn't it?

It was probably a SNESx32 type of deal. The same thing as a SNES but definitely more space to uppen the graphics, sound, visual quality of videos, etc.

Thats the only edge SEGA cd have over SNES (original SNES). Sega CD could play little mini movies between each level of 2d graphics. Nothing more; it could not produce real 3d at the time, but it could hold more data as in music and such.

avatar_58

07-04-2005, 12:43 PM

I never touched sega's many consoles and looking back at how many upgrades etc were released I'm glad I didn't! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Then again, the N64 didn't have that many great games. There were a few, but not many.

Anyway...isn't this thread about psp?

John

07-04-2005, 12:53 PM

More accurately, it's about GTA:Liberty City Stories.

I guess the history of Nintendo and Sony got caught up and now Sega is thrown in the mix. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

pjohnsonjr

07-04-2005, 12:54 PM

It's about GTA Liberty City Stories...

Nacho

07-04-2005, 01:06 PM

*ahem*

Back on topic.

Do you think they will add a better plane!? Or are planes out of the game now?

If planes are still in do you think you will be able to fly higher? I really liked the parachute idea in SA, so I hope that is in.

John

07-04-2005, 01:22 PM

Something tells me this is going to be more of GTAIII, because they don't really have the ability to add more to such a huge game anyways.

It's not going to be GTAIII exactly, but it'll be set in the same area, etc. I don't think they'll try to overdo themselves with amazing vehicles and such because well, it isn't really Rockstar making the game, it's one of their new side companies.

I'll still want it. GTAIII was great and I loved Libery City ahell of alot more than Vice City.

pjohnsonjr

07-04-2005, 01:25 PM

I think there will be improvements from GTA III, though Rockstar Leeds is devloping this, Rockstar North has a big sway and say in this game. So I think we'll see some better things to do.

Paroxysm

07-04-2005, 05:24 PM

Nacho said:
*ahem*

Back on topic.

Do you think they will add a better plane!? Or are planes out of the game now?

If planes are still in do you think you will be able to fly higher? I really liked the parachute idea in SA, so I hope that is in.

No aircraft.

Nessus

07-04-2005, 06:27 PM

I cant wait for this game. So far I think all the PSP games suck, I'm leary to buy any more so GTA will be great. I forget the PSP even does games sometimes. I was just in the park watching Goodfellas and then flicking through pics and listening to music, I really love this thing.

John

07-04-2005, 06:33 PM

Yeah, I was at the local wal-mart electronics section and I was looking at all of the PSP games/etc. There were about 5 games, and 20 UMD movies.

Nessus

07-04-2005, 06:36 PM

And all the UMD movies SUCK. When Kill Bill is the best movie you know there are problems.Theyre all corporate crap pumped out by Sony so they can make money on both ends. Im hoping the put some better movies like Star Wars or something that I will actually watch more than once. In the meantime I got a 1 gig stick and I'm going to do high quality rips of all the really great movies.

John

07-04-2005, 06:37 PM

Will highquality movies really fit on a 1gb stick?

Nessus

07-04-2005, 06:41 PM

Well I havent got all the ripping prgrams yet, I can only do 5 minutes at a shot but by my calcualtions I can get all of Goodfellas which is 2:25 minutes in very good quality at about 900 megs. So far the best resolution available in the converter program is is 368x202 which looks pretty damm good. The UMD's look better but yes you can get a whole movie in really good quality on a 1 gig stick. 10 minutes of really good quality runs about 64 megs but you can get that down to 28 megs if you dont mind the boxy mpeg distortion.

Basically with a 1 gig stick and a few disks you can entertain yourself for hours with video, pics, games and music. And lets not even get into how awesome porn looks on this thing, its the most entertaining toy I've ever had.

Nacho

07-04-2005, 08:17 PM

*ahem*

GTA: Liberty City Stories thread not a PSP one.

John

07-04-2005, 08:21 PM

Ok.

So, whats up with that GTA: Liberty City Stories game?

pjohnsonjr

07-04-2005, 08:24 PM

I haven't seen too much of media, but it's suppose to be released sometime this fall. I suspect they're holding media until closer release, because I haven't seen too much of the way of it, except for that article I believe Hudson placed up on the thread here.

I'd like to see more so I can see what all we will see in the game.

But to spark thought, do you think there's more than one set of hidden packages to find?