Squaresoft Does Henti?

[DudeMiester]

Warning, some nudity:

http://gyusyabu.ddo.jp/MP3/1986/ALPHA1.html

Heh, who knew. Umatseu did the composing too btw.

[LeadBullet]

It was made in 1986 from what the page says. I think back then they would do anything to stay in business.

[pjohnsonjr]

That was before there ever was a Final Fantasy. By a year.

Back then they were predominantly a japanese company and didn't go to foreign markets in the interactive entertainment. This was back before most interactive entertainment companies had to adhere to stringent (though games with adult themed content were not sold to kids) guidelines of content. Also know that markets over here and over there are two entirely different beasts. In Europe it's common to have topless females in tabloids, in America that would land you in a opaque packaging on the top shelf of a magazine rack.

Different generation, different time, and different tastes. Squaresoft has become more concious with their marketability and their appearance for consumers. This was back before they were a juggernaut in the interactive entertainment industry.

I haven't checked the link, I'll check it later (work). But I'm telling you if it is or isn't them, things have come along way as far as standards of interactive entertainment.

[Steve]

$%*# yeah!

[Ecmaster76]

If that has nudity than so does DN3d.

Nudity isn't as big a deal to the Japanese (I think), and that isn't even anything. Worst (best?) case is Square made an adult oriented game for a console. Wow

[Parkar]

Ecmaster76 said:
If that has nudity than so does DN3d.

Nudity isn't as big a deal to the Japanese (I think), and that isn't even anything. Worst (best?) case is Square made an adult oriented game for a console. Wow



Yea right, that's why japanese pornos has the genetals blured.

[Orochi Avlis]

Parkar said:
Yea right, that's why japanese pornos has the genetals blured.


The only blurring I see is on the guy's penis, and that's alright with me.

[Synti]

Orochi Avlis said:

Parkar said:
Yea right, that's why japanese pornos has the genetals blured.


The only blurring I see is on the guy's penis, and that's alright with me.



I haven't even seen that! Only some comics do that.

[Orochi Avlis]

I've have some japanese porn where it's like that. Oddly enough, it's involves cosplay......

[Ecmaster76]

Yeah, but a lot of anime that is considered children's shows in Japan has to be edited before it can be shown on TV in america. Off the top of my head there was nudity in Tenchi Muyo for instance.

[laffer]

I just found out that hentai girls color all their hair. If they have green hair on their head, well.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Spyd]

About anime, I didn't believe it when I read than in the USA, Dragon Ball was censored, ripping some hilarious scenes like when Goku first discovers what is a girl, scenes where Goku is nude (while he only has child genitalia), and other slightly sexual scenes.
Here in Spain the series was aired without any editing.

And Square doing Hentai games, you had to know that "Final Fantasy" (the first one) was called "Final" because it had to be the last game Square did, because they were in serious financial trouble.
They had luck that the game was really good and sold like hot cakes.
So I guess that the need makes you do lots of things that you can be ashamed of later.
This remembers me of a real lame video of Vin Diesel starring in a 80's video of "how to break-dance" I had seen some weeks ago...

[WarHammer]

It's a completely different set of moral standards. Most anime is aimed at teens in Japan, except for shows such as WB! fare like Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh, which are aimed at pre-teens. Although Tenchi Muyo! had the most blatant nudity it was an OVA (Original Video Animation a.k.a. direct to video) in Japan so most younger teens would not be able to see it. However there was milder nudity in Tenchi Universe, which was a TV series. Generally TV anime showing nudity will be drawn with no nipples, etc. and broadcast late at night. Something that has become popular of late to add new scenes, often bumping up the nudity/detail in TV series for it's Japanese video release to encourage sales. For example, Girls Bravo, the TV version had neck-high peasoup fog in all the (frequent) bath scenes, which was completely removed for the DVDs.

As far as the censoring of genitals in Japanese Porn, it's a messed up law. It applied only to the visual censoring of genitals and pubic hair and nothing else. If you ever have the displeasure of seeing japscat you will no doubt notice that while the vagina is mosaiced out, the anus and it's, uh...streaming contents...are not. This bizarre contradiction is actually the result of an old post-war decency law imposed by the Allied forces occupying Japan at the time. So the next time you go to wank off to Asian pr0n only to discover pixeled p*ssy you can thank the US and Great Britain for that.

And just to retain some semblance of on-topicness, a little nudity doesn't really qualify it as hentai.

[motionblur]

WarHammer said:
And just to retain some semblance of on-topicness, a little nudity doesn't really qualify it as hentai.


Indeed. Actually I wouldn't describe the game as hentai at all judging by those screens - as the main focus isn't on sexual actions but rather on (as seems) the game itself. It *does* have some sexual content, it seems but - meh. Nothing I'd get upset about.
People outside of japan seem to be a little fast with their definition of hentai.

[Karthik]

Damn Americans! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Reaper]

Yes, because it's all our fault for living on the other side of the world, and everyone is exactly as stupid or smart as the next one of us.

Stereotypes are for shit.

I, for one, try not to think of japanese cartoons as "anime," because that is just a sloppy englishanism.. or some such. I've no idea what this "hentai" stuff is from my recollection.. isn't it just a different drawing style?

And on the topic of adult themed vg, I think the ESRB should loosen ratings or Walmart should drop its stiff regulations. Hell, all of North American society could take a hint or two from these new fangled European organisms. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[shiranui]

DudeMiester said:
Warning, some nudity:

http://gyusyabu.ddo.jp/MP3/1986/ALPHA1.html

Heh, who knew. Umatseu did the composing too btw.



Henti? I suppose you spell Samurai "samari"

Umatseu? A name like that cannot even be written in Japanese... Give Mr. Uematsu a little more respect.

[motionblur]

shiranui said:

DudeMiester said:
Warning, some nudity:

http://gyusyabu.ddo.jp/MP3/1986/ALPHA1.html

Heh, who knew. Umatseu did the composing too btw.



Henti? I suppose you spell Samurai "samari"

Umatseu? A name like that cannot even be written in Japanese... Give Mr. Uematsu a little more respect.


Heh - I didn't even notice he also spelled Uematsu wrong http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Reaper said:
I've no idea what this "hentai" stuff is from my recollection.. isn't it just a different drawing style?



Not quite. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hentai)

[Reaper]

shiranui said:

DudeMiester said:
Warning, some nudity:

http://gyusyabu.ddo.jp/MP3/1986/ALPHA1.html

Heh, who knew. Umatseu did the composing too btw.



Henti? I suppose you spell Samurai "samari"

Umatseu? A name like that cannot even be written in Japanese... Give Mr. Uematsu a little more respect.


Yes, the Dude is quite notorious for his atrocities towards the constructs we call language.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Ecmaster76 said:
If that has nudity than so does DN3d.

Nudity isn't as big a deal to the Japanese (I think), and that isn't even anything. Worst (best?) case is Square made an adult oriented game for a console. Wow


In Japan censorship is really strange. Some hentai is censored, some is not. Or so I hear.
Other things aren't. Final Fantasy 6 anyone? Remember Kefka going: "I HATE HATE HATE ... HATE HATE YOU!" Well it's more like "F*ck you!" in the Japanese version.
Ahh, American censorship is just as bad.

[Ecmaster76]

Well, no, that would probably be Nintendo of America's fault (and not America in general) for censoring the F word.

It is not used on broadcast TV or radio, but if you pay for a movie or a cd or a game its not too hard to find uncensored materials.

Now I will admit it is a problem that a lot of parents would see the cartoony graphics of a game like FFVI and assume its harmless (and would become hysterical if it turned out otherwise). Its understandable that Nintendo would want to avoid such controversy and can be indirectly blamed on America's culture, but Nintendo could have let a more faithful translation (assuming that it really translated to the F word) out to market and maybe just put some sort discalimer on the box.