Quake 4 In Game Video

[Evil Angel]

Looks quite good. Prey still looks better though. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Click Click Clickety Click (http://www.big-boys.com/articles/q4preview.html)

[FireFly]

This was released at Quakecon, and no gaming news sites really took notice of it. The gameplay shown is pretty uninspired.

[dark_angel]

Link Link Linkety Linky (http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=922689&an=0&page=2#922689)

you are an evil! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Phait]

Boring video.

[Cerberus_e]

FireFly said:
This was released at Quakecon, and no gaming news sites really took notice of it. The gameplay shown is pretty uninspired.



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

there is no gameplay in the video

[FireFly]

What do you think the player is doing with his gun then?

[Cerberus_e]

FireFly said:
What do you think the player is doing with his gun then?



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

he's just walking around in an empty multiplayer level.

[FireFly]

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/q4preview.html

This video?

[Orochi Avlis]

I loved the single player video.

The Strogg assembly line is just brutal. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Cerberus_e]

my apoligies, I thought it was the video of that teenager playing the multiplayer without opponents, because someone linked to that thread when it was already posted http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I think the video looks great, can't wait (well, I can wait, but it would be better if I didn't have to http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

[Beelze]

The multi-player ought to be pretty fun, as I enjoyed Quake 3 a lot. What we've seen of the single-player doesn't seem that interesting.

[Roger]

FireFly said:
This was released at Quakecon, and no gaming news sites really took notice of it. The gameplay shown is pretty uninspired.



Are you referring to the singleplayer or the multiplayer? If the former, it's spite speaking through you again. I haven't seen the multiplayer video.

[gungriffon geona]

I don't care much for the video. All I'm hoping as this will be easily moddable. I say screw the regular weapons when you can have the infamous Head Launcher brought back from SDMQ1

[avatar_58]

Apparently the DVD version comes with quake 2 and some mods/expansions. That sounds interesting.

I'm still up in the air on this one though....it may take a demo of single player and multiplayer to change my mind.

[Damien_Azreal]

avatar_58 said:
Apparently the DVD version comes with quake 2 and some mods/expansions. That sounds interesting.

I'm still up in the air on this one though....it may take a demo of single player and multiplayer to change my mind.



I'm getting it, already decided. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'm a FPS junkie and ID and Raven make great FPS's IMHO.

And if there's a DVD version that has a shitload of goodies... I'm sold.

[avatar_58]

Yeah, but I've never been a quake junky. I'm more of a doom person. Although I should probably play through Quake 1 and Quake 2 to try to see if I would like it....

[Roger]

Quake 1 really has nothing to do with Quake 2; just the name. It's a different experience. Feels kind of bland for me, personally. I thought Quake 2 was kickass, and I love the soundtrack. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[gungriffon geona]

I personally thought Quake 1 was redeemed as a good game when the Nehara project made the ultimate mod and movie. but DAMN was the actual Nehara mod a pain in the ass to play. HARD.

[Roger]

Hehe, Nehahra did kick ass.

[Destroyer]

Roger said:
Quake 1 really has nothing to do with Quake 2; just the name. It's a different experience. Feels kind of bland for me, personally. I thought Quake 2 was kickass, and I love the soundtrack. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif


quake 2 was also my favorite. I didnt like quake 3 because it didnt have a linear gameplay with a story.

[FireFly]

Roger said:
Are you referring to the singleplayer or the multiplayer? If the former, it's spite speaking through you again. I haven't seen the multiplayer video.


Singleplayer.

I want it to be great game, and I thought the battle going on around the player looked awesome, but the gameplay was nothing new to me.

[Orochi Avlis]

FireFly said:
I want it to be great game, and I thought the battle going on around the player looked awesome, but the gameplay was nothing new to me.


See, this is what I don't get.

They say Quake 2 is one of their favorite games, but look doubtful on Quake 4.
Quake 2 never had much gameplay, but that doesn't mean it wasn't good mind you.
Quake 4 looks to have improved in every area of Quake 2, but how come there is so much doubt?

[Cerberus_e]

seriously, when was the last time you saw new gameplay in a game? very long ago for me

[FireFly]

Orochi Avlis said:
They say Quake 2 is one of their favorite games, but look doubtful on Quake 4.
Quake 2 never had much gameplay, but that doesn't mean it wasn't good mind you.
Quake 4 looks to have improved in every area of Quake 2, but how come there is so much doubt?


Because it has to compete as a modern FPS. I think there's a good chance it can do this and I hope the player's 'change' will be an opportunity for Raven to introduce some interesting gameplay mechanics.


Cerberus_e said:
seriously, when was the last time you saw new gameplay in a game? very long ago for me


Last year in HL2, Riddick, Far Cry and UT2k4 to lesser or greater degrees. I'm not talking about having a completely new gameplay element but a new kind of gameplay experience. For example, in Riddick you had the addition of a first person melee fighting system, with a whole set of first person 'counters'.

As far as upcoming games go, both FEAR and Prey feature novel gameplay dynamics. FEAR has slo-mo, Prey has wall walking, spirit walking and death walking.

[X-Vector]

FireFly said:
Singleplayer.

I want it to be great game, and I thought the battle going on around the player looked awesome, but the gameplay was nothing new to me.



Funny, I posted almost exactly the same thing after seeing the video earlier, thought I was the only one.

Then again, if Quake 4's singleplayer really turns out to be a bore, it will be a worthy successor in that respect.

[Cerberus_e]

x-vector, if you don't like FPS, why bother following the latest news about them? I don't follow the latest news about sport or racing games or RPG's too

[Duoae]

FireFly said:
Last year in HL2, Riddick, Far Cry and UT2k4 to lesser or greater degrees. I'm not talking about having a completely new gameplay element but a new kind of gameplay experience. For example, in Riddick you had the addition of a first person melee fighting system, with a whole set of first person 'counters'.

As far as upcoming games go, both FEAR and Prey feature novel gameplay dynamics. FEAR has slo-mo, Prey has wall walking, spirit walking and death walking.



I'm kind of confused about your new gameplay element list...

HL2 - facial animations... ok
Riddick - fair enough, fighting experience...
FarCry - Nothing new here, Chrome did it all before.
UT2K4 - ? UT2K3? Other vehicle combat multiplayer mods?
FEAR - has nothing new as far as i have seen. Slowmo is old and used often in today's games.
Prey - wall-walking and dynamic portals are new so yeah.

What were the elements you were referring to in FarCry and UT2k4? I'd like to know as i'm afraid i missed them....

[Cerberus_e]

well... HL2 has a gravity gun. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

[FireFly]

Duoae said:
I'm kind of confused about your new gameplay element list...


As I said it's more about the gameplay experience, because many of these features have already appeared in games in general.


HL2 - facial animations... ok


And the physics based gameplay.


FarCry - Nothing new here, Chrome did it all before.


I haven't actually played Chrome, but I was considering the relative non-linearity of the gameplay, and also some of the vehicular segments involving boats and hang gliders.


UT2K4 -


The Onslaught gametype - linking up, custom node layouts, locked nodes. Novel weapons like the Energy Bolas or the Manta's jumping ability.


Slowmo is old and used often in today's games.


Not in FPS, although I'll admit ROE had this feature.

[SyntaxN]

The only innovative game from last year was Riddick, it changed some core gameplay elements of the normal shooter gameplay http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[dark_angel]

It will take a great amount of time for any game studio to innovate in gameplay.

At least 8 years! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Duoae]

FireFly said:

FarCry - Nothing new here, Chrome did it all before.


I haven't actually played Chrome, but I was considering the relative non-linearity of the gameplay, and also some of the vehicular segments involving boats and hang gliders.


UT2K4 -


The Onslaught gametype - linking up, custom node layouts, locked nodes. Novel weapons like the Energy Bolas or the Manta's jumping ability.




I actually see Chrome as one of the greatest games many people have never played. It had all the elements of FarCry (vehicle handling was the same as well, though the vehicles tended to be a bit slippy) and it had effects like slow down (slowmo) and other "jedi-like" powers (come to think of it, slowmo was in the jedi knight series long before FEAR was even in development) such as focus (additional aiming accuracy etc), damage reduction etc.

There was some physics in the Jedi Knight series, as well as FarCry and many other games. They just lacked the gravity gun. For me the character detail was much more revolutionary. The gameplay wasn't any more physics-based than FarCry, you just lacked the ability to intervene in a harsher way in that game.

UT2K4, i can see your point. I never really played the onslaught and because i wasn't in a clan, the link cannon was pretty much useless (with regards to linking) when playing on a public server.

[Damien_Azreal]

We can't really judge the gameplay from that video, yeah all he does is shoot things but this is a shooter.

We don't know what lead up to that, the story, objectives or anything.

[Roger]

People who complain that "all you do is shoot things" are normally the type who frankly are better off playing RPGs.

[Dr.Dude]

I love the background atmosphere going on in that video, with the war raging on around you. Really makes the whole idea of the Strogg/Human war seem more convincing.

It's also interesting in how it makes the player character seem more like a soldier in the war instead of a messianic lone hero, which has a lot of potential in immersing the player into this game's whole futuristic, completely alien landscape.

[Cerberus_e]

Dr.Dude said:
I love the background atmosphere going on in that video, with the war raging on around you. Really makes the whole idea of the Strogg/Human war seem more convincing.



I agree, that's what I loved most about medal of honor: allied assault.
in quake 4 it will be even better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Roger]

I see I'm not the only one who got the MOH feel from it. o/\o

[Damien_Azreal]

Dr.Dude said:
I love the background atmosphere going on in that video, with the war raging on around you. Really makes the whole idea of the Strogg/Human war seem more convincing.

It's also interesting in how it makes the player character seem more like a soldier in the war instead of a messianic lone hero, which has a lot of potential in immersing the player into this game's whole futuristic, completely alien landscape.



Couldn't agree more.

It really adds to the atmosphere to see other marines fighting, the explosions shaking the screen. Hearing other soldiers yelling orders.

IMO the gameplay itself can be a bit of a throwback if it's solid. I mean looka t Doom 3 and Painkiller... they held it through based on atmosphere.
I think Quake 4 will be the game that brings Raven teh respect they deserve. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[SyntaxN]

Damien_Azreal said:
I think Quake 4 will be the game that brings Raven teh respect they deserve. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif


They got my personal respect when they released Jedi Knight 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
But Quake 4 can catapult them up to the same level of id and Valve for the mainstream gamers http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Malgon]

If Raven make something solid and playable, with some nice mood and plot elements then I believe that they would start to get more recognition as id or valve rather than a second rate dev. I hope they do the strogg universe a favour, and make it with that feeling of fighting in the trenches feel. with futuristic weapons of course. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Destroyer]

I think we can count on Raven, though those videos dont look too promising. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Cerberus_e]

Destroyer said:
I think we can count on Raven, though those videos dont look too promising. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



why not?
why is it different from other FPs games?
if your answer is "there is no difference, and that's the problem".
2 answers in that case:
- you are tired of FPS, go play fifa 2006 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
- well, tell me another game where it's martians vs humanity in one big fight with tons of scripted sequences everywhere, like in medal of honor, to simulate a real battlefield?

[FireFly]

I wouldn't say it indicates that someone is tired of FPS, just that they have a different taste, and they want something more 'fresh'. Would you tell someone who's not impressed by a particular album that they're getting bored of music?

[Cerberus_e]

good comparision. sorry destroyer http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
but destroyer, to know if you will like quake 4, play quake 2 (1997).
I played quake 2 for the first time in my life a couple of weeks ago, and finished it.
it was GREAT, so I will like quake 4 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Reaper]

I think the MP looks quite scintillating, even without players in the arenas. The SP does look uninspired, though.

The Quake 2/4 bundle does pique my interest, though.

I think I'm already sold. Even though I disliked HM:F2 (which Raven developed, AFAIK) it had some solid gameplay elements, and I look forward to things like that in the next drip from the Quake IV.

[X-Vector]

Heavy Metal: Fakk 2 was developed by Ritual; too much cheekiness in there for it to have been a Ravensoft title anyway.

[Damien_Azreal]

I read somewhere that John Carmack said if you can run Doom 3 you could run Quake 4 with no worries.

I'm a bit more relaxed about it now. And I just pre-ordered my DVD edition with all the goodies. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Damn I'm gonna be busy this October.

[Cerberus_e]

quake 4 comes in october?
aarggh, serious sam 2 and FEAR too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerberus_e said:
quake 4 comes in october?
aarggh, serious sam 2 and FEAR too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif



Not 100% sure about that, but that is the release date Gamstop is showing... and they are pretty reliable.

But, I know... SS2, FEAR also Timeshift (I'm looking forward to that one). All in October. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Time to become a hermit.

[Duoae]

Damien_Azreal said:
Not 100% sure about that, but that is the release date Gamstop is showing... and they are pretty reliable.




Yeah, hopefully q4 for the PC will be out around the same time as it is for 360. I predict it will slip to sometime in late november/early december for the PC.

I looked on my usual preorder site and had a laugh when i read the blurb (no release date though.... it'll probably be later over here):

"Quake 4 is the first game to utilize id Software's revolutionary Doom 3 technology."

Surely they're missing the obvious?

[Damien_Azreal]

Duoae said:

Damien_Azreal said:
Not 100% sure about that, but that is the release date Gamstop is showing... and they are pretty reliable.




Yeah, hopefully q4 for the PC will be out around the same time as it is for 360. I predict it will slip to sometime in late november/early december for the PC.

I looked on my usual preorder site and had a laugh when i read the blurb (no release date though.... it'll probably be later over here):

"Quake 4 is the first game to utilize id Software's revolutionary Doom 3 technology."

Surely they're missing the obvious?



The first game? Hmmm... so Doom 3 wasn't a game? What is it then?

[FireFly]

A tech demo.

[SyntaxN]

FireFly said:
A tech demo.


http://doom3.planet-multiplayer.de/forum/html/emoticons/lol.gif (had to do that)
It´s a game for showing ids new engine for sure, but when you call that just a tech demo... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

FireFly said:
A tech demo.



The first game on any engine is technically a tech demo, but it's still a game.
Far Cry was a tech demo, same thing with Painkiller and Half-Life 2. But they were still games.

[FireFly]

I know. I'm sure it was just an honest mistake, or maybe just bad English.

[Damien_Azreal]

I'm going with honest mistake.

I hope. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif