Halo... is a good or a bad game?

[Spyd]

I'm just curious about Halo being a good or a bad game after viewing the Halo 3 thread.
When I played it, it was when was released to the PC. The graphics didn't impress me, and I found the game repetitive and boring, and at last I lost interest and leaved it unfinished.

So, how you liked it?

And please, remember that what I'm asking is a opinion; write down yours and respect the other ones. Thank you.

[Phayzon]

I may have played the PC one in the past, I dont remember, but i never played the XBox Halo(2), as a dont have an xbox http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[necroslut]

Halo was kinda fun to play in splitscreen, but anything is fun in splitscreen. The PC port was bad.

[FireFly]

I played it first when it came out on the PC and liked it a lot. It's far from perfect, but the core mechanics are brilliant, and I think the outdoor sections make up for the poor quality of the interior levels.

[Simon Charles]

Never understood why people like this generic shooter. I guess I just don't see what they see. To me, it was at best briefly entertaining when you were on the jungle island with the beaches, the water and the jeeps. The rest was a bore.

[Cerberus_e]

TodesZiege said:
The PC port was bad.



if it's bad on the PC, it is also bad on the Xbox, I don't see the difference: levels are the same, enemies the same, everything is the same (possible exception is that graphics are better on the PC, but I'm not sure if they increased graphics quality).

[Duoae]

I have it on PC and liked it. The story was a bit clichéd, but it's a game.... what do you expect after years of playing them?

My favourite bits? Levels with marines, the Banshee and multiplayer. I loved CTF.

[EDIT] Thing i hated about it, no co-op... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Destroyer]

good as a console game, horrible as a PC game, most levels are made up of 3-4 rooms just connected together, so the whole time your going through Identical rooms as before, kinda like Wolfenstein 3D.

[necroslut]

Cerberus_e said:

TodesZiege said:
The PC port was bad.



if it's bad on the PC, it is also bad on the Xbox, I don't see the difference: levels are the same, enemies the same, everything is the same (possible exception is that graphics are better on the PC, but I'm not sure if they increased graphics quality).



The graphics aren't any better on the PC (except the resolution) and the framerate is worse. +you don't get the splitscreen.

[scorpion]

Cerberus_e said:

TodesZiege said:
The PC port was bad.



if it's bad on the PC, it is also bad on the Xbox.


If you havn't played both you shouldn't say that. because imo and experience the console version is better then the pc. The controls for the xbox i thought were pretty good, mouse and keyboard makes things to easy i think. My graphics card wasn't the greatest so it was horrible to look at on my pc. But the main thing is that Halo is one of the few great fps for a console. it brought something new to the table for console users. of course all the pc people bitch and complain about the game on pc because it's like every other fps. But nothing beats playing Halo 2 system link deathmatch with your friends http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

[Hudson]

Halo sucks.

[Cerberus_e]

I played the HALO demo on medium on PC and it wasn't too easy.

[Duoae]

Cerberus_e said:
I played the HALO demo on medium on PC and it wasn't too easy.



No autoaim.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Opus131]

Destroyer said:
good as a console game, horrible as a PC game



Are console games horrible then ?

[Dave-ros]

Much more limited than PC games - smaller levels, fewer models etc.

I've played the Halo demo, and frankly I didn't enjoy it. It didn't run badly, but I just wondered what the point was... I suppose it's a bit Starship Troopers in that you're part of a team fighting a team of enemies, but that's not my scene - I prefer fighting alone and not having to cover someone else's back!

[Duoae]

Dave-ros said:
Much more limited than PC games - smaller levels, fewer models etc.

I've played the Halo demo, and frankly I didn't enjoy it. It didn't run badly, but I just wondered what the point was... I suppose it's a bit Starship Troopers in that you're part of a team fighting a team of enemies, but that's not my scene - I prefer fighting alone and not having to cover someone else's back!



A lot of the game is on your own.....although there are a lot of levels with friends, but you can choose to discard them or let them die...

[MentalSentinel]

It's an absolutely horrible game. Never played anything worse. The banshee was quite fun, though.

[FireFly]

Cerberus_e said:
I played the HALO demo on medium on PC and it wasn't too easy.


And yet you say HL2 on hard is too easy? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif If you haven't played on 'Heroic', you haven't experienced Halo IMO.

[Cerberus_e]

FireFly said:

Cerberus_e said:
I played the HALO demo on medium on PC and it wasn't too easy.


And yet you say HL2 on hard is too easy? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif If you haven't played on 'Heroic', you haven't experienced Halo IMO.



halo is a lot harder than HL2.
but why should I play on hard when medium is good for me? do I have to be frustrated before liking it? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Maybe it's because I'm not really experienced to the gameplay type of HALO.
HL2 is a straightforward shooter (like I already play since wolf3d)
halo is... different (not to be confused with "something new" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)


Duoae said:

Cerberus_e said:
I played the HALO demo on medium on PC and it wasn't too easy.



No autoaim.... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



well, you still have the bullets that track enemies... I felt like a Revenant http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[FireFly]

Cerberus_e said:
Maybe it's because I'm not really experienced to the gameplay type of HALO.


But you went through Far Cry fine. It makes no sense - I thought Far Cry was tougher than Halo. I guess it's more subjective than I thought.

[Kev_Boy]

Halo was one of the only games in recent years that I haven't finished. That says enough...

[mysteryperfecta]

Halo is a good console shooter. The gameplay and presentation are very polished and professional. The co-op and multiplayer were both fun modes. The core gameplay is very solid.

I do make the distinction between a console and PC shooter, however. Halo is one of the best console FPSs ever, but it's pretty standard for PC shooter fare.

[Cerberus_e]

FireFly said:

Cerberus_e said:
Maybe it's because I'm not really experienced to the gameplay type of HALO.


But you went through Far Cry fine. It makes no sense - I thought Far Cry was tougher than Halo. I guess it's more subjective than I thought.



or I had a bad day? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

but no, I remember the main problem was me without ammo, and stuck with bad guns, like those little green thingies... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
the difficulty occured when I found the "map" (or whatever my objective was in the demo)
and then lots of aliens spawned and came to get me http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[SyntaxN]

It´s an very good game on XBox...
The PC version is ok, but the feeling isn´t nearly as good as it is with the controler in front of an TV http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[avatar_58]

I tried the demo and its okay, but nothing special. The sheild enemies just seemed annoying....and on "easy" the enemies take one too many shots to kill. Half the time I had no ammo and just beat them to death with the weapon. The animations aren't fluent at all...but thats not really a main fault. It also has red faction syndrome....I don't like anti-grav jumping no matter how justified. It makes the game seem like its in slow motion.

I don't know...basically I just don't see what the hype was all about. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are still the king of Console shooters.

[SyntaxN]

Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are still the king of Console shooters.



True, Perfect Dark>>>>all http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Cerberus_e]

SyntaxN said:

Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are still the king of Console shooters.



True, Perfect Dark>>>>all http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



didn't you say was the best shooter IYO? in another thread? yes you did http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[jimbob]

i hate the game with a passion. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

i still dont see why people praise it as much as they do. everything about the game strikes me as off. the only thing i likes was the way you handled vehicles and thats it. the level design was forgetable, no real interesting thins other than corridors and some big open generic outdoor spaces, the enemies are forgetable, the main character wich suposedly has to look "cool" or something looks incredibly lame IMHO

the weapons felt weak and underpowered the sounds were pretty dull too. the guns themself are forgetable.

[Ivan]

Hudson said:
Halo sucks.



We'll never repeat it enough for people to understand. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Night Hacker]

Multiplayer wasn't too bad. Single player sucked. I wasn't too crazy about the weapons, limited selection, lack of ammo, etc... etc... etc...

[RugerMK1]

Halo.



Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

[SyntaxN]

Cerberus_e said:

SyntaxN said:

Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are still the king of Console shooters.



True, Perfect Dark>>>>all http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



didn't you say was the best shooter IYO? in another thread? yes you did http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Well, I think I said that more than one time http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Perfect Dark is just.....uber awesome, I hope that´s no problem for the PC fans http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif


the weapons felt weak and underpowered the sounds were pretty dull too.


That is really ridiculous imo, but it´s your opinion...

[Duoae]

I don't understand how people could have a lack of ammo in Halo... you pick up the weapons of enemies you kill! The weapons weren't particularly underpowered... maybe you just tried engaging from a distance where the reticule would be showing you that the scatter lies mostly around enemies.

Hell, i'm playing it on Heroic and have a full machinegun clip and a plasma rifle. I tend to get caught out by those invisible sword-carrying elites. One-hit kills suck IMO. And the little green, chargeable gun? It's kickass if you know how to use it. Charge it up, let it lock and go.... switch to your main weapon and kill the enemy in heatbeat while it's stunned and sheidless. Repeat until empty....

Oh, and HL2 on hard is as easy as Halo on medium difficulty!

[Dr. Kill]

A lot of people love it, but compared to all the other fps I've played, I thought it sucked. I don't even think it was worth my $6 rental (I remember the days when a rental was $2!)

[Cerberus_e]

I would pay 6 dollars (4-5 euros?) for halo, definitely.

[Damien_Azreal]

Hudson said:
Halo sucks.



Hudson speaks the truth. I bought the thinking "If all the guys with X-box's are raving about it so much, it has to be a little good."
Damn was I wrong.

This was one of my biggest let downs. The graphics were okay, buy IMO they didn't warrent the system requirements. And the games biggest faults are nemy design and level design.

I got tired of seeing the same place and fighting the same guys. The Flood was only a cheap trick to try and change up the enemies a bit.

This is all IMHO only.

[FireFly]

Yeah, I thought The Flood were horrible, and the Library was one of the worst levels of any FPS.

[Cerberus_e]

it isn't the first time i hear the library is bad http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
what is the flood?

[Damien_Azreal]

The Flood was a lame attempt to give you new enemies to fight about half way through the game. But it was only a modification to the exsisting enemies.

[FireFly]

The flood are like zombies - Zombie Covenant and Zombie Humans.

http://halosquad.com/halo/enemies.php

[Opus131]

The only bad thing about Halo is that Bungie shelved the Myth series because of it... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[someguy2435]

It's really good for a console game, but sub-par on the PC. The Xbox and PC experiences are quite different IMO, and it's better on the console. The singleplayer kind of sucks, but co-op rocks and so does the split-screen multiplayer.

Halo 2's multiplayer more or less sucks. Whereas in Halo, I felt that you could go into a fight with almost any weapon and not one was ridiculously overpowered (yes, including the infamous Halo pistol). In Halo 2 almost all of the good weapons in Halo were downgraded and the sniper rifle's power was increased drastically. The battle rifle is a horrible weapon, and the mixed akimbo feels like a gimmick that doesn't fit into the whole Halo experience.

[cladinshadows]

I only played HALO on multi-player mode....single player
bored me pretty quickly; even on the console version I wasn't too impressed. I think it's over-rated. But that's just me.

[Dr. Kill]

Damien_Azreal said:

Hudson said:
Halo sucks.



Hudson speaks the truth. I bought the thinking "If all the guys with X-box's are raving about it so much, it has to be a little good."
Damn was I wrong.



I'm one of the biggest fans of the XBox, and i've even been called a fanboy by some (Not true, I like tons of other systems. I have 9 total), and I think Halo is total crap. All hype. I thought "If all the guys with X-box's are raving about it so much, it has to be a little good." too, that's why I rented it. I only rented it cause I had a feeling it wouldn't be good, and I didn't want to waste $30. Hell, Red Faction is still one of my favorites. I'll play it any day over Halo. Actually, maybe I'll go play RF now. (puts Red Faction disc in DVD drive)

[kylemf88]

Red Faction was a alright shooter. I mean it tried new things that no one saw before. Thats why I'll give it credit and not a other console shooter that this topic might just be about. Also I do think halo might have taken a small bit of ideas from red faction.

[Tang Lung]

Halo is quite good...If it was on the PC it would've been taken in by the PC crowd as a cult classic. However, due to it being on the Xbox and marketed to irritating little 10 year olds it's widely hated by the PC crowd.

It offers nothing new to FPS games, but it's occasionally fun..the multiplayer especially. It had the best vehicle handling in any FPS I've seen.

[kylemf88]

... It is on the pc also. You just got to understand the pc crowd wants something more. There are just so many shooters out there and we are looking for something new because we have seen so many strong games. But halo wasn't bad but had nothing new or creative. So most the pc world will just look over it. I know a guy that hates fps games. He just got to play hl2 and loved it. Not for its game play but its creative story and the style that puts you into the cut scenes. See that’s a special point in that game. I have another friend that is a big third person horror game fan. But when doom 3 came out he gave it a try and found himself in love with it. See these games have special aspects to them. Halo is just another mindless shooter. That’s what makes pc fans angry.
(Sorry far cry fan boys I don't have any good stories for it... But it is the reason I upgraded my pc. Does that count?)

[SyntaxN]

It´s interesting to see how many Halo "haters" are here, I don´t know a board with so many people who don´t like it....

[Paroxysm]

Tang Lung said:
It offers nothing new to FPS games,


I'd argue that the combat design with the limited weapon capacity and sheild encouraged a different type of play that seperates it form other FPS'

There's alot of hate in this thread. I find it confusing. I've never liked Halo but I'm a pretty harsh critic on games. I can't see how people can see it as rubbish though. It's quite quality, although not great mainly due to obviously rushed level design. I don't really get the rabid hatred though. It's like listening to me talk about Sony; Rabid anti fanboy'ism (although I'm justified in my stance against sony.... hehehehe :P )

[SyntaxN]

I think the hate comes from Halo´s success, many people love the game and when you don´t love or even like it, it turns out that you´ve to hate it... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[scorpion]

I think this thread (and like 100 others) is the proof that most die hard pc people don't like halo. I think it's obvious no one is changing there opinion.

[Scream]

I think that the last two threads and every other thread about Halo (and even a lot of threads NOT about Halo that Halo gets mentioned in) prove that love it or hate it, people like to talk about Halo. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Logic Bomb]

Seeing as most of the people on this forum are die hard pc elitests i wouldn't really consider the poll results to be a fair representation but imho it's a good game. I enjoy halo2 online and play it often.

- LB

[Yatta]

What is a good game? To me a good game is a game that keeps boredom away and manages to have me continue playing. Though I'm not fond of Halo 2's multi player system, it has fulfilled the position of a good game.

[avatar_58]

Yatta said:
What is a good game? To me a good game is a game that keeps boredom away and manages to have me continue playing. Though I'm not fond of Halo 2's multi player system, it has fulfilled the position of a good game.



Basically. However I just didn't find Halo interesting enough to keep me playing. I doubt its because of the port, because I've seen the console version in action and the controls are the only difference really.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yatta said:
What is a good game? To me a good game is a game that keeps boredom away and manages to have me continue playing. Though I'm not fond of Halo 2's multi player system, it has fulfilled the position of a good game.



I found HALO boring and not very compelling. The only reason I finished it is because I spent money on it.

But it took me at least two weeks to beat it. I would stop playing after only 20 or 30 minutes.

[Little Conqueror]

Halo 2 was okay, but the whole "let's try to render the bump-mapping right now and maybe it won't look all crapped up by the end of the cutscene" approach really was a turn off for me. That, and the lack of any sort of ENDING was disappointing.

[Destroyer]

Opus131 said:

Destroyer said:
good as a console game, horrible as a PC game



Are console games horrible then ?


console FPS are IMO.

[Yatta]

Well Damien, to each his own taste. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I hated getting lost in purple hallways but that was only a small part of Halo 1. The outdoor levels were tons of fun.

[Damien_Azreal]

It started interesting enough... but soon just died for me.

[Logic Bomb]

Little Conqueror said:
Halo 2 was okay, but the whole "let's try to render the bump-mapping right now and maybe it won't look all crapped up by the end of the cutscene" approach really was a turn off for me. That, and the lack of any sort of ENDING was disappointing.



You must hate star wars episode 4 then? How about lord of the rings? It was meant to have a sequal, i hated it to but only because it kept me wanting more.

- LB

[Travis]

Halo is by no means a bad game, [for Xbox, I haven't played the PC version].
But it is vastly, vastly overrated. Vastly. Wow, I sound so vast now.

[kylemf88]

SyntaxN said:
I think the hate comes from Halo´s success, many people love the game and when you don´t love or even like it, it turns out that you´ve to hate it... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Oh no questions about it dude. It drives allot of pc fans nuts seeing a game like this sell so much when we have seen more innovative games sell less. I'm one of those people who are driven nuts about it. But unlike some I’m willing to admit halo is a good console shooter. I just think it lacks comparing to the other top pc shooters. But like I said in the other topic the word OPINION means everything on this subject.

[Dr. Kill]

Destroyer said:

Opus131 said:

Destroyer said:
good as a console game, horrible as a PC game



Are console games horrible then ?


console FPS are IMO.



For the most part, I have to agree with that. I've seen/played so many stale looking fps, like the Halo series, Half Life (only played it on ps2, hated it. Doom 3 is like what Half Life wanted to be), Red Faction 2, Project Snowblind (same game as RF2, only worse ), TimeSplitters series, Turok: (De)Evolution, Deus Ex: Invisible War (Worse than Halo, better than Project Snowblind... slightly. Very slightly)... Like I said before, the first shooter I liked on a console (and not just for gore like Soldier of Fortune 2) since Red Faction, was Doom 3. They just rush them out anymore, and hope someone buys them. Hopefully the next gen systems will get more quality fps, and less crap.

[widowmaker]

IMO Halo isn't a bad game but it doesn't live up to the hype.

Is that diplomatic enough?

[FireFly]

Well, what does live up to 'the hype'?

[widowmaker]

FireFly said:
Well, what does live up to 'the hype'?



Very true. Lets see.
Soul Calibur 2.
Dead Or Alive 3.
World of Warcraft

There are few but they do exist.

[SyntaxN]

widowmaker said:

FireFly said:
Well, what does live up to 'the hype'?



Very true. Lets see.
Soul Calibur 2.
Dead Or Alive 3.
World of Warcraft

There are few but they do exist.


Those games may lived up the hype for you.... (I was never interested in one of them)
Halo 1&2 also lived up the hype for millions, there must be a reason why they sold so strong, just like some of the games you mentioned above http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[FireFly]

Did World of Warcraft receive that much hype? It seems it only really made a name for itself after release. Of course obviously, any game can live up to its hype if there isn't much of it to begin with!

I notice that there are no FPS in that list.

[widowmaker]

FireFly said:
I notice that there are no FPS in that list.



I couldn't think of one that met or exceded expectations, not in recent memory anyways.

[kylemf88]

SyntaxN said:
Those games may lived up the hype for you.... (I was never interested in one of them)
Halo 1&2 also lived up the hype for millions, there must be a reason why they sold so strong, just like some of the games you mentioned above http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Well Halo also lets down millions. But you can't deny the fact that a console game is a lot easier to sell more than a pc. Hell I've show people games on my pc and they couldn't believe what they see. Believe it or not but allot of console owners I’ve met thing pc graphics stay at free online games. They just get a laptop or a cheap dell for word perfect. Console fan boys really don't know what a game can really be at times. But I think the reason halo sold is because the lack of good console games. Not at all because it was a great game. Just because it didn't have much to beat. So you give an average shooter to console fans and its great. You give an average shooter to pc fans and it’s an average shooter. That’s my theory.

[scorpion]

What!? i never met anyone that pc stupid. You must know some of the dumbest people lol. And i think it disappointed thousands not millions. millions seems kinda high. I accept the fact you don't like halo or consoles. So why can't you except some people do like it and your not gonna change there opinion.

[kylemf88]

lol Yeah I do know some pretty dumb to pc people though. But if you think halo didn't have million disappointed you really don't know how big this world is son. It’s not that small of a world after all. It’s a big big place. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

But yeah no opinions are going to change here because no ones is wrong or right really. Yes it is a fact that halo isn’t the most revolutionary game. But that’s not what this is about. No one ever claimed halo did anything for the fps world in that way. It’s really all about if you find it fun or not. Witch is nothing but opinion so it can’t he decided.

Truly I think allot of people find it refreshing for the simple game modes in mp. Everything is trying to top each other these days. Halo just did what it did and it seemed to work. Also I think halo is a really easy game to pick up. Allot of games have you needing to learn new things. When I got halo I picked up almost right away. (It seems allot of people I talk to aren’t really into halos sp as much as its mp)

But time for how I end everything I say on this topic. I don’t think halo is bad but with all the other great fps titles out there trying to do new things it just doesn’t stand its ground.

But you got to understand I do like consoles. I also never one time said halo is a bad game. I'm just trying to say I think there are better. You might want pc people to except your opinion but at the same time you don't want to listen to theirs. See what I mean? Anyways I'm pretty in the middle when it comes to the halo sucks and halo rules thing. I really don't love or hate the game.

[Scream]

Why are all the teenagers on this site calling each other "son"? I'm 36 and I'm not even condescending enough to call someone here "son".

Cut it out boys. It's annoying. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[kylemf88]

Scream said:
Why are all the teenagers on this site calling each other "son"? I'm 36 and I'm not even condescending enough to call someone here "son".

Cut it out boys. It's annoying. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif I was saying it as a joke. Because you have to be pretty oblivious to the world around you to not know stuff like this is easily millions. It’s just such a big world.

[scorpion]

Ok fine millions. I can admit I was wrong earlier, but there are still more in the like category http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. And i'm not your son i'm about a month and a half older then you. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[kylemf88]

Maybe I pulled a Kyle Reese or something. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Yeah but like I said before the reason it is easier for it to have fans it because consoles are cheaper than good pcs. But I'm getting bored of talking about this because there is no right and wrong.

[Little Conqueror]

Logic Bomb said:

Little Conqueror said:
Halo 2 was okay, but the whole "let's try to render the bump-mapping right now and maybe it won't look all crapped up by the end of the cutscene" approach really was a turn off for me. That, and the lack of any sort of ENDING was disappointing.



You must hate star wars episode 4 then? How about lord of the rings? It was meant to have a sequal, i hated it to but only because it kept me wanting more.

- LB



Um, hello? What part of "was okay" DON'T you understand? Stop freaking put words in my mouth. I never said I hated Halo 2, only that ending it with an anticlimatic boss fight and a cutscene that makes you think you're about to be playing a decent finale (like in Halo 1) was a disappointing choice.

You need to start reading the whole post. You even went through the trouble of quoting it. Don't you read what you put up?

[Dr. Kill]

Logic Bomb said:
You must hate star wars episode 4 then?



I know no movie by that title.

[Mongorian]

Dr. Kill said:

Logic Bomb said:
You must hate star wars episode 4 then?



I know no movie by that title.



Then you must live under a rock :P

[Dr. Kill]

Mongorian said:

Dr. Kill said:

Logic Bomb said:
You must hate star wars episode 4 then?



I know no movie by that title.



Then you must live under a rock :P



No, I mean I know a movie called "Star Wars", but not one called "Star Wars: episode 4" I go by the real titles of the films:
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi

That's what they were before that butcher renamed them in the early 90's. Even though episode 3 was almost as good as the original 3 (before they were ruined in 97), it's still not part of the trilogy to me.

[Detharin]

I played through halo once on PC on legendary difficulty. I enjoyed it. It was challenging, it was a pain in the butt at times but i beat it and i felt incredibly satisfied doing so. Added into the little references to marathon for a nostalgia kick and i enjoyed Halo. Was it Game of the Year material, no. But the game mechanics made it fun to play.

[Mongorian]

Dr. Kill said:

Mongorian said:

Dr. Kill said:

Logic Bomb said:
You must hate star wars episode 4 then?



I know no movie by that title.



Then you must live under a rock :P



No, I mean I know a movie called "Star Wars", but not one called "Star Wars: episode 4"



I thought you said you didn't know what we were talking about, yet CLEARLY you have a grasp of what he meant? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Gatinater]

I didn't play enough to be able to fully critique it. I just played it and within a few a minutes I hated it. I just didn't like it. It's one of those things that you either hate or like. It's an apples or oranges situations. You like it or you don't.

It had and has the feel of a bandwagon game and that perception vastly effected my view of Halo.

[Twin]

don't like halo 1 or 2...why?

well it was the most over hyped, overrated game in the entire universe...when a game it hyped THAT much then you expect something *VERY special from it. but all i played was just your normal average first person shooter...there was nothing unique or special about it

single player wise all u done was watch the cut scene then run and shoot to the next cut scene right the way to the end of the game and that was it! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

first person games on pc have spoilt me rotten...to me a game has to be AS immersive as half-life 2 to be any good

[Logic Bomb]

Twin said:
don't like halo 1 or 2...why?

well it was the most over hyped, overrated game in the entire universe...when a game it hyped THAT much then you expect something *VERY special from it. but all i played was just your normal average first person shooter...there was nothing unique or special about it




Getting rid of the health system, implementing a shielding system, making grenades an integral part of the game rather than another weapon to ignore, forcing only 2 weapons at a time, making vehicles a viable transportation option for almost every level instead of just a quick "hop on, attack a bit, go here" ride, allowing a 1-hit kill sneak attack if you hit anyone in the back, making melee a highly-used and viable option rather than an ignorablly weak attack, relatively smart ai (now i haven't played every pc or most of the newest titles but it's been a long time since i've seen an enemy hurdle himself out of the way of a grenade or scream in anger when stuck with one), excellent mix of wide open outdoors levels with clsoe quarter in-doors levels.

Ya man i know what you mean, you see this shit in EVERY game, makes things SO dull to see it again in such an average game. Honestly i don't know what part of halo you guys consider average (except level design which i will totally give you credit for on some of the interior levels).

Someone please tell me what makes a PC's fps unqiue and fresh?

- LB

[widowmaker]

Logic Bomb said:
making vehicles a viable transportation option for almost every level instead of just a quick "hop on, attack a bit, go here" ride


I like your version of Halo better than the one that came on my XBox CD. :P

[SyntaxN]

widowmaker said:

Logic Bomb said:
making vehicles a viable transportation option for almost every level instead of just a quick "hop on, attack a bit, go here" ride


I like your version of Halo better than the one that came on my XBox CD. :P


Well, you played the wrong game then, I think I played Logic Bombs version http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
And something I always wanted to say, when you don´t try to get in the game it´s pretty clear that it can´t be awesome....

[Logic Bomb]

You can jump on a ghost and use it as an attack vehicle for entire levels almost in some cases. Warthogs too. Or get out and run. Never is it a short lived "well that sucked" kind of ride.

- LB

[Dr.Dude]

Halo isn't a bad game, honestly... just an amazingly overrated one. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

There was a period of time where I'd constantly hear Halo being referred to as if it was the be-all-end-all of first person shooters. Maybe this colored my perception a bit, but the whole way through I just couldn't help but feel disappointed while playing the game.

There was some good gameplay ideas in the game and the multiplayer was alright, but it's still one of the most overrated games imaginable IMO.

[kylemf88]

Hell even gamepro and game informer say its over rated.

[Scream]

Dr. Kill said:

Mongorian said:

Dr. Kill said:

Logic Bomb said:
You must hate star wars episode 4 then?



I know no movie by that title.



Then you must live under a rock :P



No, I mean I know a movie called "Star Wars", but not one called "Star Wars: episode 4" I go by the real titles of the films:
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi

That's what they were before that butcher renamed them in the early 90's. Even though episode 3 was almost as good as the original 3 (before they were ruined in 97), it's still not part of the trilogy to me.



Actually, Star Wars was renamed Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope with the theatrical re-release of both it and The Empire Strikes Back in a double-bill before Return of the Jedi was even released. Would have been 1981 I believe.

[Logic Bomb]

kylemf88 said:
Hell even gamepro and game informer say its over rated.



Well as long as magazines say it's overrated... I listen to myself first, other fans second, and ratings last.

- LB