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crunchy superman
09-14-2005, 08:01 AM
It's about time!! Still, I think it's gonna be R2 only atm due to all that cross-studio licensing crap here in the states. I have a region-free player, so I don't care http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Coming for Halloween!


09-14-2005, 10:42 AM
Very nice. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

09-14-2005, 11:44 AM

Awesome, I want it.

09-14-2005, 12:50 PM
If only the movies were of as high quality as that box (well, sphere).

09-14-2005, 03:49 PM
Looks very, very cool. I never dug part 3 so much, but I've always wanted #2 on DVD, and the bonus disc sounds good as well. Still, I've never bought a Region 2 PAL disc before, only dealt with Region 2 NTSC. So can anyone tell me how that would work? I get the feeling I could play it alright on my computer but might have problems on my TV...

crunchy superman
09-14-2005, 04:04 PM
If you need one, go here (http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks) and see if there's a region hack for your player. Most have one listed there somewhere. Once it's set to region 0, it'll pretty much play anything.

09-14-2005, 04:13 PM
I'm alright on playing different region DVD's, but I thought the different TV standard would present a problem? Thus far I've only bought Japanese DVD's, which use the same NTSC standard as the US. If PAL formatted stuff will play fine on my NTSC TV, then great.

09-14-2005, 05:43 PM

09-14-2005, 05:55 PM
If your country uses PAL, you won't be able to view NTSC on your TV, and vice versa.

I'm just learning about this as I get into video/editing as well. From what I vaguely recall - PAL has more resolution than NTSC, and runs at 60Hz, while NTSC runs at 50Hz. It has to do with different standard voltages per country...

crunchy superman
09-15-2005, 04:53 AM
I watch R2 discs from the UK all the time.

09-15-2005, 06:51 PM
Me too. I have ABUK's Hellraiser-cube as well, which did suffer a lot of problems upon release, which flawed discs and all (I'm afraid that mine are still the first printing). I'm sure they've gotten past that by now, plus this one looks a lot sturdier than that flimsy cube (which had rather qestionable disc holders, too).

After a while of contemplating, I decided to drop a pre-order to my nearest DVD retailer. What can I say, I am a whore for fancy DVD boxes when I get the chance. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

09-16-2005, 12:01 AM
I'm getting conflicting reports here. This is what a google turned up:

"What are PAL, NTSC, and SECAM standards?

PAL, NTSC, and SECAM Standards refer to the mhz that a signal is recorded at or sent. In the USA, and other NTSC countries, we use a 60 mhz signal. Unless we travel abroad we don't come into contact with these other signals. In much of Europe and South America it's PAL or 50 mhz signal. France, Russia and a few other countries use SECAM. What this means is a DVD disc or videotape and TV must be of the same standards type to view properly. I.E. A PAL recorded dvd or videotape will not play properly on a USA-made NTSC TV- it will actually appear in b&w and will roll vertically uncontrollably. For the same reason, you can't take your USA made NTSC TV to Europe with you and watch their PAL TV signal.

Thus aside from being regionally coded, DVDs are formatted for different TV systems. Most codefree dvd players can output both formats but cannot switch the format from PAL to NTSC or visa versa. But in order to watch both, with most modified multiregion players, your television must be capable of playing both PAL and NTSC formats (Multistandard TV) or the player must be connected to a signal converter."
- http://www.dvdshippers.com/information.htm

So do you guys have "Multistandard" TV's or region free players with built in signal converters and not know it? Because that's what it sounds like.

09-16-2005, 04:04 AM
That's supposed to be Hz, not MHz.

Anyway, the situation seems rather interesting; almost all new TV sets sold in europe support both PAL and NTSC signals (at least through the SCART connector), allowing us Europeans to view dvds of both systems even if our players were not capable of doing the conversion themselves.

However, in the US, it is almost impossible to find a TV set that would support PAL in *any* way.

I myself have two DVD players, one that has a built-in signal converter and another that doesn't, but which is connected to a TV that can process NTSC signal, so there.

09-17-2005, 02:52 PM
So it looks like I wont be getting this after all, as I can't afford a new TV or region free player with signal converter. Hopefully Universal will relent and Phantasm 2 will hit DVD stateside eventually.

10-20-2005, 04:19 AM
A review!


10-20-2005, 04:42 AM
PAL sucks.. I hate that we don't have NTSC in Norway http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
It's especially bad with videogames (that's why I import all my games).. they run slower and has lower image quality too.

10-20-2005, 05:00 AM
PAL is much better quality then NTSC, if I remember right the main difference was because the US decided to go for the 110-120V/60Hz AC power while Europe (and most of the rest of the world) went for 220-250V/50Hz AC power.

The original TV got the refresh frequency straight from the mains. But now it is all done electronically it has been quite easy to produce both a 50Hz and 60Hz signal and allow TV's to work on both systems. As stated above most European countries have been selling TV's that work on any system for years. Probablly something to do with the multiple formatts of PAL throughout Europe.

But I think it has been one of the drawbacks of having an insular attitiude in the US that caused them to continue selling TV's with only NTSC for much longer, probabbly saving them a few cents on production. But now that and the region coding, which was mainly there to ensure the Americans got everything first, is working against the US when they want to buy stuff not released in the US.

After so many years of the reverse it's quite hard to feel sorry for anyone who has to got out and buy a new TV and DVD player to play something they realy want from outside the US.

Getting back on topic.

Phantasm has got to be the film(s) I have thought about watching the most but never got round to it, the have always had nice boxes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Are they any good?

10-20-2005, 06:12 AM
laffer said:
PAL sucks.. I hate that we don't have NTSC in Norway http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
It's especially bad with videogames (that's why I import all my games).. they run slower and has lower image quality too.

I don't know about video games (I don't do consoles), but as for movies, NTSC and PAL both have their advantages.

Since film is converted to NTSC via 3:2 pulldown (http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/production_a_z/3_2_pulldown.htm), this means that the film speed remains authentic to the original (I'm sure this applies to the video games too), whereas PAL conversion is done by the 4% speed-up (film runs at 24fps, PAL at 25fps). This of course has it's effect on sound too, as PAL either has to suffer from the pitch increase or speed-decrease (which usually results into various different problems, the best-known examples being the SEEs of LotR trilogy). However, due to the method which is used to convert film to NTSC, the picture may appear a little "twitchy".

Then of course, PAL has the advantages of higher resolution and more fluid playback, so it's all really up to viewer's preference.

My personal preference is, of course, to get the BEST version of any movie I can, which is when I rely to websites like dvdcompare and dvdbeaver, and I often ignore the differences between NTSC and PAL, especially since they sometimes may appear as almost identical (except for the film speed of course).

10-20-2005, 06:35 AM
the box (ball) set looks awesome... pitty im not really into phantasm

10-20-2005, 06:55 AM
I've never even seen Phantasm, and I pre-ordered this one anyway...I'm such a whore for fancy box-sets. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

10-20-2005, 07:44 AM
My TV has NTSC and PAL switch! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif