Is the soul of Keen gone?

[Guest]

Has Keen's soul been murdered? Where is the essence of Keen? Does anyone really care anymore? Help! Keen needs serious help to stay alive, and he's not getting enough of it.

[Guest]

Remember, Commander Keen died for the good of his people in back in Doom II, and now he is in a place where the Cyberdemons and Dopefish of the world can't hurt him. May he rest in piece.

[Guest]

Maybe id software can resurrect...nah http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif

[Uncle Duke]

John, hush. Don't be crazy, you don't know what you're talking about.

[Guest]

Come on guys, don't get your hopes down. Keen is far from dead. Just because ID won't do another game, doesn not mean his soul is dead. As long as there are fans like us out there, he will continue to live! Some day, there will be both a good programmer, and also a big Keen fan in one person, some day. No one knows when this day will be, but it WILL come! There are still a few unofficial projects being developed as we speak, although I don't want to say anything, or it all goes down the drain. If people get told about this stuff, it means 1000s of emails saying "can I beta test" or "send me it" or "when will you be finished". Meanwhile, we can just keep on learning more and more about our hero, Commander Keen!

[Flaose]

This is just a rumour I heared, so it could be false, but anyway. 'Id doesn't hold the rights to Keen, John Romero does, and he's thinking about doing Keen 7 for the N64, and Keen3D for the Computer.' Just something I heard, I might e-mail him, but I doubt he'd e-mail back. http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif

[Joe Siegler]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>'Id doesn't hold the rights to Keen, John Romero does, and he's thinking about doing Keen 7 for the N64, and Keen3D for the Computer.'<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

False.

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[Guest]

Right!
I just mailed Tom Hall.
(and they DO mail back!!!)
He is willing to make a new Keen Game,
but he told me that ID holds the rights.
And when Tom makes a new Keen Game,
he wants total control.......

That's all for now...:-)

[Guest]

When you're hired as a programmer or any other type of designer in software companies, the general rule is, anything you develop in-house becomes the intellectual property of the company and not the person who created it.

Even if you were to develop a product outside the company, but used company ideas, or company equipment, the company is entitled to royalty fees.

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[This message has been edited by Andre Viens (edited 11-12-98).]

[Guest]

Keen WILL LIVE even if I have to become a programer myself to recreate him, keen will live
C.K.

[Guest]

I'm http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif there's still so much interest out there. Hopefully the right mix of keen and programming will come along.

[Guest]

Keen did not die in DoomII, it was meirly an illusion created by the evil daemons, to demoralise humanity. But Keen did return, apon the holy Dopefish!

Sorry, I'm a little bored.

[Guest]

And if ID killed Keen........
ID should be banned, and I mean this seriously...
We know for a fact now that they do
not reply to any message, and they
think they can get away with it.
I'm thinking of starting an anti ID sort
of thing...
Who do they think they are...
(Yes, I'm pissed...)

[Thea]

Yeah.. since when do you not answer people who talk to you?
It's downright rude, and Gert's definately got a point!

[Uncle Duke]

DEATH TO CARMACK!!! http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif Just kidding. Why don't you guys lighten up? Do something useful and start a petition or something. Why start a hate group. You fear that another Keen game won't be made, right? Like a small green guy I once knew said:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate . . . leads to suffering.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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[Flaose]

Hey Gert, we can't "ban" Id software, but we sure as hell can Boycott them. In other words, don't buy their products, demand that they hand over the rights of Keen to 3DRealms or ION Storm, and tell your friends to follow.

[TerminX]

um yeah dont by their products....hmmm come to think of it i've never actually bought an id product....and yes the soul of Keen is gone. when you think about it all he was is a lil' stroke 8 yr old...btw if they make a new keen game it better be as fukn bloody as Blood II. hey thats an idea. Keen 7 : Revenge of the Dopefish. presented to you on the LithTech engine. that would rock. think about it Joe...big ol' Dopefishes that would bite you...in fact you could have an level where you get swallowed by the Dopefish. http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif

[Guest]

Hey Flaose, you're OK!
I'm looking for ways to get to ID...
And for the guy above me....it's
not anger or hate, it's just NOT right
that ID does not reply to ANY mail...
Why do they have e-mail, if they do not use it!
They obviously do not want to speak to
possible buyers......stupid....hahahaha...
See how dumb they are....hehehe...

[Guest]

At least there's still a lot of interest out here. Look at the new keen sketch! It rocks!

[Aurora51]

Gert: I've emailed Paul Steed once and got a response back rather quicky. Just asked him some stuff on Max3d. But you cant expect id software to reply to every email they get. U have any idea how many emails they get? Try emailing Metallica or Bluesnews. You think you gonna get a reply on the dime? dont think so..

[Joe Siegler]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>and yes the soul of Keen is gone.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tom Hall is still alive. As long as Tom is alive, the soul of Keen is not gone.

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Joe Siegler
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[Guest]

Yay Joe!!! (somebody needs to get Tom Hall in here...)

[Guest]

Huh?? I tried another subject in a mail
to ID, they responded within a day???
Aurora, they just don't talk Keen there, the
rest is OK....
hehehe...

[Guest]

Hey, heres a question: Why does ID own the rights to keen? they make to money off of it, or maybe just royalties when they use dopefish.


Doc Zing
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Chunky Monkey.

[Guest]

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[This message has been edited by Mort McMire (edited 01-11-99).]

[X-human]

Tom Hall.
In complete control?
DEAR GOD! Has to world gone mad? The unlimited ideas that come out of Tom's head can strike fear in the hearts of any gaming company that he doesn't work for. Commander Keen can't die ever, becuase believe it or not, insane ppl like Tom are out there, and they aren't locked away.

About id Software. Ever try to even download something from their ftp!?!?!?!?! Their pop3 account must crash once a week with all the email they get. And some stupid stuff too. They do have jobs after all, Quake 3 Arena, not dealing with Comander Keen fanatics.

About John Romero. He has stated in an interview that he wants to make a new Comander Keen game, and that it's right up n64's alley, weather it will be made for that system is not decided, but John really really wants to make a new keen.
Interview: http://www.users.fl.net.au/~simsy/keen/interview-jr.htm

Oh and TerminX, having a level inside the dopefish like in Zelda (Jaboo-Jaboo) or Super Mario World 2 (inside the frog's tummy) is a great idea. Comander Keen vs. The Mother of all Dopefish, and then some. It eats islands for snacks. It's burping can cuase and earth quake.

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[Guest]

yes i care

[Uncle Duke]

Where the hell did you dig this up? LaserBeams hasn't been to these boards since August last year. I think.

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[Alex]

Well, at least the soul of Keen lives on http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif

[Guest]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Where the hell did you dig this up? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Exactly my thoughts, I think there should be a rule that if no one's replied to a post for a month then it's automatically locked

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[Scotty]

My 2¢: that idea sucks, for lack of a better word.

[Sith]

LaserBeams hasn't been here since November (just look at when this topic was started).

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[Guest]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>My 2¢: that idea sucks, for lack of a better word.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And apparently lack of reason, too http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/grin.gif!

[Guest]

Well, what would be the benefits of an automatic topic locker? If someone needs to post, they obviously think the topic should stay alive. If you don't, don't post. If noone posts, then there's no need to KEEP people from posting.
Well, now you've done it, you've made me confuse myself! http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif