Failed Console Extravaganza!

[Hudson]

Post your favorite ill-fated consoles of all time!

First: THE INDREMA! (http://archive.gamespy.com/devdiary/october00/indrema1/)

http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/indrema.jpg

[Maximum]

It hasnt even been released yet... but i think itll fail, horribly... cause not everyone has access to a broadband connection and the hardware is outdated compared to the new consoles. It looked promising... but i think doomed to fail. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Phantom (http://www.phantom.net/)

[Fat John]

http://segacheats.com/Images/Dc1.jpg

*cries*

[Joonas]

Fat John said:
http://segacheats.com/Images/Dc1.jpg

*cries*



*joins in agony*

[Phayzon]

Nowadays most consoles/handhelds DO fail if they arent Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, and even then its possible they will fail.

[gamejunkie]

Nintendo's Virtual Boy, what a shame. I liked that thing http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Dave-ros]

Blast from the past (1991): the Amstrad GX4000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amstrad_GX4000) - I had such high hopes for it beating the NES and Sega Master System... unfortunately, Amstrad forgot to have enough actual games available for it and it flopped badly http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Carger2000]

Joonas said:

Fat John said:
http://segacheats.com/Images/Dc1.jpg

*cries*



*joins in agony*



Me three http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Geir]

Carger2000 said:

Joonas said:

Fat John said:
http://segacheats.com/Images/Dc1.jpg

*cries*



*joins in agony*



Me three http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



I'll join in.

[Nacho]

Dreamcast was ahead of it's time. It really shouldn't of died the way it did.


I really wish Sega would try again.

[MeatWagon]

Are there any Virtual Boys floating around anywhere? I've always wanted on purely for the sake of owning a failed console.


Oh yeah I guess you could say Any Neo-Geo console and the
3do, anybody here ever own one of those?

OH Atari Jaguar

[Hudson]

I still have an Atari Jag (just for AvP purposes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Water12356]

http://www.computercloset.org/Sega32XBox.jpg

First time I played Doom was on a 32X. A watered down version but still doom!

[MeatWagon]

I always wanted to play AvP for the jaguar, I hear its pretty damn good. Are there any Jaguar emulators around?

[Hudson]

Project: Tempest (Jaguar Emu) (http://pt.emuunlim.com/)

[Vivi]

Soooo many failed consoles. Too many to list. Too many to even think up of one.

[Gryph]

/me sheads tear for Dreamcast. I have mine right next to my computer connected via VGA box. I love it.

But my favorite failed console would have to be the Phantom Gaming Service. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Neptune]

Carger2000 said:

Joonas said:

Fat John said:
http://segacheats.com/Images/Dc1.jpg

*cries*



*joins in agony*



Me three http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



*sobs uncontrollably*


I actually had to sell mine the other week. So sad, it was such a good little system.

[Mountain Man]

What dumbass engineer thought having to remove the battery to access the cartridge slot was actually a good idea? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Eddy Willson]

http://www.museo8bits.com/vboy.jpg

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Vivi]

the virtual boy controller looks like the gamecube controller... i just noticed that.

[Carger2000]

Yeah that was rather dump. But I have one and still like it.

[Gatinater]

The Sega CD, 32X, CDX, Saturn and Dreamcast failed because of poor marketing, lack of advertising, no hot games, and undesirable prices.

Without the image of best system on the market you can't beat the competition. For Years SEGA always had the games and advertised like crazy. Even though the SNES was a superior system the Genesis still kicked Nintendo's ass, because SEGA had a cooler image.

Now Microsoft & Sony are the shit. Nintendo & SEGA had their day. Just like Atari had it's day. Sony and MS are the FADs.

[Dr. Kill]

Gatinater said:
I don't consider the dreamcast a failure.



If it didn't fail, then we would be getting new games for it right now. Also, if you look on gaming websites (ebgames.com as an example), it's listed as a "classic" system. It's listed by the NES, SNES, and Genesis, and it was supposed to be part of this generation of consoles. At least it's listed, though. They don't even sell Sega Saturn games at any game retailer anymore. It's as if it never existed.

Hmm... my fav failed console is probably a tie:
Sega Saturn (the forgotten system)
Sega Dreamcast

and just cause nobody mentioned it (or maybe I'm just blind)

Turbo Grafix 16

[Gatinater]

I wouldn't Say it's a failure as it way over sold the sales quata and so did most of the original Games.

I also don't like to consider it a failure out of optimism. The DC was modest and another game system came along and crushed it. That happens in any business.

I don't agree with putting into a league or degree of failure with all of those other lameass systems and devices no one recalls. Everyone knows what a dreamcast is.

The system wasn't a failure. SEGA was the failure. As said it was released ahead of it's time. If SEGA would have just spent more time developing, it would have been much better, but they wanted to be first on the market.

Plus I think the name killed it too. Who wanted a system named Dreamcast? It sounds a bit faggy or eccentric.

[avatar_58]

Gatinater said:
Without the image of best system on the market you can't beat the competition. For Years SEGA always had the games and advertised like crazy. Even though the SNES was a superior system the Genesis still kicked Nintendo's ass, because SEGA had a cooler image.



They did? Maybe my love for the SNES is clouding my mind, but didn't nintendo have all the support and the best games? When I think Sega I think sonic....nothing else really caught my eye. It was like an elaborate NES just without the games. This is all subjective mind you, and might stem from the fact that I've never had much experience with the genesis.

[Gatinater]

Everybody here had a Genesis and few had the SNES. I had one along With a Genesis. I got the Genesis when it was newer. There was constantly SEGA commercials on TV. Remember the voice "SEGA!!!!"

[Dr. Kill]

Yeah, Sega was "the shit" in the early to mid 90's. I got an SNES for Super Mario World, and then when I played Sonic 2, I was like, "god damn, I need a Genesis". I actually went from the more powerful system to the less powerful one, but I didn't care. The Genesis had lots of great exclusive games, along with versions far superior to the crappy SNES versions. Some examples:

Road Rash Series
Desert Strike series (series sucked on snes due to bad porting, except Desert Strike. In Desert Strike only some violence was removed, but the game played the same. Jungle and Urban Strike are shit on SNES. They play slow, and the music sounds wussy.)
Madden (again, ported very badly on SNES)
Streets of Rage series
Sonic
Mortal Kombat (even though it visually sucked, it had more responsive controlls, and all the blood the arcade one had)
Vectorman
World Series Baseball 95

I still liked the SNES (still do), and bought a lot more games for it, but the Genesis had more aggressive sounding music (I hate SNES music), more aggressive games, and no edited crap like SNES did.

[avatar_58]

Ah that would explain it, I didn't care much for those games. My fighter was Street Fighter 2 Turbo http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I had tons of games for the SNES back in the day and most of them were exclusives, or else worse on the genesis.

Now that you mention it I do recall the mortal Kombat "comparisons" made by my friends at school way back when. I just stayed out since I never played that game and was too busy with SNES http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Carger2000]

Gatinater said:


The Sega CD, 32X, CDX, Saturn and Dreamcast failed because of poor marketing, lack of advertising, no hot games, and undesirable prices.





Umm yeah..right.
No hot games?! Are you kidding? Maybe the 32X. Even the Sega CD had plenty of good games. (Sonic CD, Snatcher, Lunar, Final Fight CD, Secret of monkey island, Thunderstrike..) and plenty of 'better than the already good Genesis ports' such as Ecco 1&2, Pitfall, Mickey Mania, The Terminator, Batman Returns).

As for the Dreamcast and Saturn do you want the 1 or 2 page list?

Also, yes, the Saturn had a ridiculous launch price but the Dreamcast had a real sensible $199 tag. The Dreamcast failed because by the time it was beating the PS2 hands down (Xmas 2000) SEGA's debts already were too huge to continue, especially because of the failures of the Sega CD, 32X and Saturn. If SEGA didn't released the first two (Sega-CD & 32X) we might still have new DC releases these days..

[avatar_58]

Speaking of the many sega consoles, does anyone have a list explaining when and what each one was? At the time I kept hearing about the next sega attachment or hardware and eventually was confused as to which one did what.

It seems to me Sega was trying to compete on every level regardless of how badly it hurt them or customers. People probably got sick of buying so many consoles they went for the Sony route.

[Carger2000]

Add Alladin to that list as well.

[Carger2000]

avatar_58 said:
Speaking of the many sega consoles, does anyone have a list explaining when and what each one was? At the time I kept hearing about the next sega attachment or hardware and eventually was confused as to which one did what.

It seems to me Sega was trying to compete on every level regardless of how badly it hurt them or customers. People probably got sick of buying so many consoles they went for the Sony route.



See HERE (http://www.eidolons-inn.net/segabase/)


And that other thing's very true, they just shot themselves in the foot by doing so..
Still.. it's a collectors dream; all that different hardware.

[LeadBullet]

Nacho said:
Dreamcast was ahead of it's time.



So if they released it a year or so later it would have been a success? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Neptune]

Not to mention the Dreamcast had Resident Evil code veronica, one of the years top selling games, IIRC it even one a handful of 'game of the year' awards.

PLus, the dreamcast had INSANE graphics. had that power been tapped now adays, like the ps2 is, you'd see stuff that was amazing.

ah well....

[cladinshadows]

Eddy Willson said:
http://www.museo8bits.com/vboy.jpg

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



I'm with you, I love my Virtual Boy.

[Riddlewire]

In case anyone needs a refresher, here's a list of consoles.
Uh, pretty much ALL of them. Ever.
http://darkwatcher.psxfanatics.com/console/nameindex.htm
Includes some history about each one, too.

[Gatinater]

Carger2000 said:

Gatinater said:


The Sega CD, 32X, CDX, Saturn and Dreamcast failed because of poor marketing, lack of advertising, no hot games, and undesirable prices.





Umm yeah..right.
No hot games?! Are you kidding? Maybe the 32X. Even the Sega CD had plenty of good games. (Sonic CD, Snatcher, Lunar, Final Fight CD, Secret of monkey island, Thunderstrike..) and plenty of 'better than the already good Genesis ports' such as Ecco 1&2, Pitfall, Mickey Mania, The Terminator, Batman Returns).

As for the Dreamcast and Saturn do you want the 1 or 2 page list?

Also, yes, the Saturn had a ridiculous launch price but the Dreamcast had a real sensible $199 tag. The Dreamcast failed because by the time it was beating the PS2 hands down (Xmas 2000) SEGA's debts already were too huge to continue, especially because of the failures of the Sega CD, 32X and Saturn. If SEGA didn't released the first two (Sega-CD & 32X) we might still have new DC releases these days..



I said " LACK OF HOT GAMES" not LACK OF GOOD GAMES" HOT means everybody wants it and runs out to get it.

[CD Racing ZX6R]

Don't leave the Phillups CDI out. System was overly priced compared to the compeition so none bought it.. Except me.. And I loved the system. Graphically it was way better than Sega CD, but it only had like 5 games. So it died a horrible death.

[Eddy Willson]

The Apple Pipin

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Pippinfront.jpg

[Dr. Kill]

Never heard of it.

Another classic failed system was the 3do. One of my friends bought it cheap cause he heard they were making an add on to make it 64 bit. They never made that add on.

[Eddy Willson]

Dr. Kill said:
Another classic failed system was the 3do. One of my friends bought it cheap cause he heard they were making an add on to make it 64 bit. They never made that add on.



Heres a pic:

http://www.consoledatabase.com/images/consoleinfo/3do/3doconsole.jpg

[Dr. Kill]

haven't seen one in years. Thanks! That is the first system I played Road Rash on. After that, I was hooked, and got all the other Road Rash games for Genesis. Interesting how similar the 3do controller is to the Genesis one.

[Kev_Hectic]

Oh yeah I guess you could say Any Neo-Geo console



I don't know about that, I don't think the Neo-Geo was a total failure. SNK released that console in 1990 (or 1991, or so...) and continued to make games for it up till about 2003. That thing had a 12-13 year lifespan.

The Neo-Geo Pocket on the otherhand was a pretty big failure...

http://www.tcp.com/~prisoner/sdh/ngpc.gif

They made it to compete with the Game Boy Colour, and just like every other non-nintendo made portable that came out before it, it got squashed.




Other hand held console failures...

Atari Lynx...
http://data.over-blog.com/lib/2/7/15372/pics/copie-1-lynx.jpg

I always thought this thing was pretty cool. It came out the same year the original Game Boy did, but it was technically far more advanced. It never caught on though, it costed too much money, and had poor battery life.


Turbo Express...
http://www.atari7800.com/turbo/webimages/core_exp.png

This was a portable version of the Turbo Grafix 16, which was a home console that had a luke warm sucess in the early 90's.


Sega Nomad...
http://download-a-saco-2k2.galeon.com/seganomadp.jpg

And this system here was essentially just a portable Sega Genesis. Yeah, the Genesis was a big success, but this was not.

[Dr. Kill]

Sega Nomad is still cool. It was $85 online last time I checked.

[Mountain Man]

Not really a console, but it seems appropriate for this thread: the Coleco Adam.

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2258/dscn19473dc.th.jpg (http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn19473dc.jpg)

[crunchy superman]

Commodore Amiga CD-32
http://www.particles.org/amiga/DSCF0053.JPG

http://amiga.emugaming.com/cd32.html

[MeatWagon]

God damn it, I'd love to start a collection of failed consoles. So far the only thing I have that comes close is a sega saturn. I really should get it back from my friends dads house.

[Joe Siegler]

http://www.computercloset.org/neogeocd.jpg

[XPM]

Neptune said:

Carger2000 said:

Joonas said:

Fat John said:
http://segacheats.com/Images/Dc1.jpg

*cries*



*joins in agony*



Me three http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



*sobs uncontrollably*


I actually had to sell mine the other week. So sad, it was such a good little system.



Im missing the white cable that goes into the laser head that controls it and the cd-spinning-engine-thing is busted...I could always replace it but I need a new cable...and the laser is worn down http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif *CRY*

[Dr. Kill]

Joe3DR said:
http://www.computercloset.org/neogeocd.jpg



that has a similar shape to the Sega Saturn...

[avatar_58]

Its funny how nowadays so few companies have tried to oppose the big boys. I keep expecting to see someone new come out and wow us, but they never do. The last name I recall is N-Gage...which basically flopped big time. (Does anyone own one?)