DOD: S Official Discussion

[Dogy]

It's out, gentlemen. 1 min left on the update. Will posts screenies.

[Balgias]

fine, tell me if its worth the 20$ http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

Balgias said:
fine, tell me if its worth the 20$ http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif


A friend of mine says he loves it. He likes the HDR affects as well.
He says the sun blinds him when he looks up into it.

[Simon Charles]

Balgias said:
fine, tell me if its worth the 20$ http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif



Gah, it's not free anymore? I thought it came with Half-Life 2. I must've been smoking the carpet again.

[Orochi Avlis]

It comes with the Gold and Silver package.

[kylemf88]

It's hard as hell to get on a server. Most of them are locked and the few that aren't have high ping. But the little bit I did play says it's worth the 20 bucks. I'd wait maybe a week so people can set their servers up.

[Dogy]

Only screenie I could take:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2685/dods19lt.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dods19lt.jpg)

That was before I took HDR off. Yes, I can confirm this is REAL HDR. I went on dod_avido (Whatever the name is), went to the beach, and the sand reflected the light off. And, I went into the water, got out, and had a tremendous amount of bloom for a split second.

I can easily say that Source is now at 75% of it's power.

[Orochi Avlis]

Cool.

[Sir Lemonhead]

What will 100% be?

[Balgias]

Orochi Avlis said:

Balgias said:
fine, tell me if its worth the 20$ http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif


A friend of mine says he loves it. He likes the HDR affects as well.
He says the sun blinds him when he looks up into it.



Thats pretty cool, if you have a video card that supports HDR that is http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

also btw, some cs:source maps also now support hdr

[Orochi Avlis]

Which ones?

[Balgias]

Orochi Avlis said:
Which ones?



err, i think de dust 2 does, im not sure ill have to look it up http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Mountain Man]

HDR is definitely one of those things that is impossible to appreciate in a static screenshot. I played for a few minutes and found the effect to be so subtle and natural to the point that I quickly stopped noticing it. It's pretty cool running past a doorway and not being able to see inside the building until your "eyes" adjust to the indoor light. Really makes you wary about charging through doorways since there could be an enemy soldier hiding in the shadows.

[Daveman]

After playing pretty much all night:

1. HDR has a surprisingly small performance hit. Less than AA. And if you use HDR on full with no AA, the light bloom makes it so you hardly notice the jagged edges.
2. At first I had my doubts, but when you get used to the Garand and BAR, it's the same old DoD. At first everyone was SMG and spraying.
3. MG42 + Ragdolls = Satisfaction. The ragdolls are very bottom-heavy (probably realistic) so when you shoot someone, they drop, but not straight down like in CS:S. They get flung to the side very hard. VERY satisfying with a machine gun or rifle.
4. On the Axis side, the MP44 is too weak (3 hits to a kill, BAR is 1-2) and the MP40 is too powerful for the lack or recoil it has (1-2 hits is a kill, easier than with the MP44 because there's almost no recoil).
5. I still hate Avalanche http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Fraeon Waser Duhni]

Drat. I really really want this, since DoD was all I played when I still had HL.

[IgWannA]

Daveman said:
5. I still hate Avalanche http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif



avalanche was my favourite map http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Synti]

Fraeon Waser Duhni said:
Drat. I really really want this, since DoD was all I played when I still had HL.



Yup, I'm sure it is worth the 20 bucks. The question is wether I can buy it in a store or not! DoD kick(ed) ass!

[Cerberus_e]

Sir_Lemonhead said:
What will 100% be?



Quake 3 level http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ADM]

Here's a cool video taken from some dude at shacknews playing through it, it shows off HDR in action as well:

http://dko5.shackspace.com/vids/dodsource.avi

It's around 82mb and you have to click on the link (no save target as) and it downloads through fileshack.

Or you can just right click and save target these seperate videos, though I don't think HDR is enabled in these ones:

http://dko5.shackspace.com/vids/dods_1.wmv (9MB)
http://dko5.shackspace.com/vids/dods_2.wmv (8MB)
http://dko5.shackspace.com/vids/dods_3.wmv (17MB)
http://dko5.shackspace.com/vids/dods_4.wmv (13MB)

[Maximum]

Quite impressive from those videos. Wonder how COD2 multiplayer will be http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Dogy]

Sir_Lemonhead said:
What will 100% be?



Something 2x better then Doom 3.

[Sir Lemonhead]

Dogy said:

Sir_Lemonhead said:
What will 100% be?



Something 2x better then Doom 3.



If you mean the Doom 3 engine and not the game, then you'd be totally taking the piss if you thought that Source is already more technologically advanced than that..

[Orochi Avlis]

Sir_Lemonhead said:

Dogy said:

Sir_Lemonhead said:
What will 100% be?



Something 2x better then Doom 3.



If you mean the Doom 3 engine and not the game, then you'd be totally taking the piss if you thought that Source is already more technologically advanced than that..


Let's not get into this discussion, please?

[Mountain Man]

Ah, man, and here I was looking forward to another "my dick is bigger" flame war. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Little Conqueror]

Meh. I tried it at a friend's house and got bored after three maps, and the HDR didn't impress me that much. Maybe I'm just not into FPSes anymore?

[FireFly]

This game needs to be played competitively to be appreciated, I feel. On the public servers I've played on so far, it never feels like there's a collective effort to capture points, and there's rarely an extended period of contention where both teams fights back and several the points switch back and forth.

[big fat lazy]

I got mine for $10 cause I got it silver package. I wouldn't get it for more than that unless you're already a big DOD fan.
I miss the garand buttsmack and kar bayo http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif, the ironsights seem unnecessary.
BTW I reccomend turning off the map and head icons, only nubs use them http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Daveman]

FireFly said:
This game needs to be played competitively to be appreciated, I feel. On the public servers I've played on so far, it never feels like there's a collective effort to capture points, and there's rarely an extended period of contention where both teams fights back and several the points switch back and forth.



That's less a problem of public servers and more a problem of big servers. As with most games, play a game with 16-24 people and it's a lot better than with a full game. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Mountain Man]

It's really the luck of the draw when it comes to public servers. I just finished playing several rounds on a 32 player server that was almost full, and it was intense. Each round lasted close to 20 minutes as each capture point was hotly contested, changing hands several times before one team would finally break through to the next capture point. It was really a lot of fun.

[Dogy]

Great screenie I managed to take before the HDR went "natural."

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3807/hdrdods1dl.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hdrdods1dl.jpg)

[Mountain Man]

I love HDR. Everything else just looks so flat and unnatural.

It's also significant that Valve worked hard to come up with their own HDR algorithms that allows one to have HDR and antialiasing enabled at the same time. Previous solutions by other developers made it impossible for AA and HDR to coexist, but I'm not sure of the exact technical reasons why.

[Orochi Avlis]

I think it's due to similiar algorithms.
Just a thoery though.