My map's screenshots

[ultra tree 85!]

Here are some screenshots of my level for Duke 3D that I'm building. What do you think of them? Suggestions?
Here is the first one.

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And the next-

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The 3rd-

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the 4th-

[NetNessie]

Um, did you take these shots with a digital camera?

[zilppuri]

Yaeh.. they look like they were taken with camera or something...
You know you can JUST press F12 in game to take screenshot.

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zilppuri said:
Yaeh.. they look like they were taken with camera or something...
You know you can JUST press F12 in game to take screenshot.



That has to do with how I changed it from a pcx file to a jpg. I printed them out, and scanned them back in, which ended up making them look worse.

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Here they are again-

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next-

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These should look better, they're higher detail.

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3rd again-

[Parkar]

ultra tree 85! said:

zilppuri said:
Yaeh.. they look like they were taken with camera or something...
You know you can JUST press F12 in game to take screenshot.



That has to do with how I changed it from a pcx file to a jpg. I printed them out, and scanned them back in, which ended up making them look worse.



Why on earth would you go through all that trouble to get it to a jpg (not to mention the crappy quality) when there is tons of free software that gets the job done.

[Blade Nightflame]

ultra tree 85! said:
3rd again-



I use MSPAINT and I get BETTER quality than that. Geez.

[Cerberus_e]

haha yes, it's funny http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
well, at least it has 2 battlelords at the same time... but they look so big, are you sure they are the mini boss version?

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Parkar said:

ultra tree 85! said:

zilppuri said:
Yaeh.. they look like they were taken with camera or something...
You know you can JUST press F12 in game to take screenshot.



That has to do with how I changed it from a pcx file to a jpg. I printed them out, and scanned them back in, which ended up making them look worse.



Why on earth would you go through all that trouble to get it to a jpg (not to mention the crappy quality) when there is tons of free software that gets the job done.



I know, it's not a good way to get it transferred to jpg. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'll have to get one of those programs, especially if I want to get my map actually up on these forums.

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Cerberus_e said:
haha yes, it's funny http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
well, at least it has 2 battlelords at the same time... but they look so big, are you sure they are the mini boss version?



yes, they are the mini boss version, and there are actually 4 of them right there. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif One of them is way off in the distance where the crosshair is pointing, and the other is behind the dying battlelord.

[Rider]

about the images...

use this, works fine for me: http://www.gimp.org/windows/

About the level

It looks ok, although I swear I saw a flying pigcop somewhere (is that intended?)
IMO there is still some work to do..

[Boinky]

OT: Happy Bday Rider.
Back ON topic: Level seems rather small from the SS's and whats up w/ the one where your just facing a wall. Would like to see more, but Battlelords always = a plus http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Boinky said:
OT: Happy Bday Rider.
Back ON topic: Level seems rather small from the SS's and whats up w/ the one where your just facing a wall. Would like to see more, but Battlelords always = a plus http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



There's more to the level than what was shown in the shots, and the one screenshot was actually looking into a dark room, but you can't see much in that one, I'm not really sure why I took that screenshot. I'm not anywhere near finished, so there will be lots more than there is now. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Unfortunately, if I wait untill it's done before I put it on these forums, it'll be too big of a file.

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Now I have a working security camera in that area, and I also put in an extra defense system. I'll try to get some updated screenshots on these forums soon.

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Here's the same area now. The wall is a lowerable defense system, and the battlelord was just killed by the laser shooter. I'm standing in the ship.

[Boinky]

realism 1, map 0. He is just standing inside of space. If he floating it'd a different story, but he's just standing there. Whats the background on your map, is this a city inside of a large spaceship (AKA Dyson Sphere) or whats the deal?

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Boinky said:
realism 1, map 0. He is just standing inside of space. If he floating it'd a different story, but he's just standing there. Whats the background on your map, is this a city inside of a large spaceship (AKA Dyson Sphere) or whats the deal?



That part of the map is Duke's spacecraft that can launch nukes to destroy things on the earth part of the map(which has a vacation setting-swiming pools, beach, water rides, etc). http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif The battlelord has been launched from an enemy ship to destroy Duke. That screenshot no longer accurately represents that area, I've changed some things.

[Boinky]

Alright thats cool.. It just looks wierd tbh.. He's walking on space http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Boinky said:
Alright thats cool.. It just looks wierd tbh.. He's walking on space http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



He's not actually walking on space right now, a few hours after that screenshot was taken, I put him on a space platform, to make it more realistic. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[GodBlitZor]

Looks ok, for a first map. Work hard.

[Blade Nightflame]

ultra tree 85! said:
Here's the same area now. The wall is a lowerable defense system, and the battlelord was just killed by the laser shooter. I'm standing in the ship.



Now that I think about it.. The gritty ness of the screenshots, AKA, the quality could be a pretty good filter for the cameras in the level...

[ultra tree 85!]

here's another area on my level. There's a sector effector 4 for random lights in the room.

[Little Conqueror]

Make sure you put an exact copy of that SE 4 in every sector in the room then.

[NetNessie]

Please oh please just convert the image file.

[Ding Bat]

From your screenie, it looks like the toilet and urnal are made for giants. Chaeck your scale.

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Ding Bat said:
From your screenie, it looks like the toilet and urnal are made for giants. Chaeck your scale.



Thanks for the tip, I made it smaller. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Now I'm putting sprite-bridges in.

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NetNessie said:
Please oh please just convert the image file.



Converted. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Symok]

NetNessie said:
Please oh please just convert the image file.



Yes, please. Are you still doing the print-and-re-scan thing?

There are free programs out there to convert picture formats, or even just open it in some proram that supports pcx and resave it...

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Symok said:

NetNessie said:
Please oh please just convert the image file.



Yes, please. Are you still doing the print-and-re-scan thing?




No, I'm not doing that anymore. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ultra tree 85!]

I just switched my level over to Duke 1.5. There are a lot of great new textures/items in there. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Here's a new screenshot of my level. I'm looking out at the pool from the diving board.

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Another new screenshot-

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Here's a screenshot of my spinning light.

[Ding Bat]

ultra tree 85! said:
Here's a new screenshot of my level. I'm looking out at the pool from the diving board.



It's hard to tell from the screenie, but in the pool shot, is the water level, level with the walk way? If it is, you should lower the water level a step or two.

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Ding Bat said:

ultra tree 85! said:
Here's a new screenshot of my level. I'm looking out at the pool from the diving board.



It's hard to tell from the screenie, but in the pool shot, is the water level, level with the walk way? If it is, you should lower the water level a step or two.



Thanks, I'll lower it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Phayzon]

You know, you could just use the PrintScreen button and Paste it in paint for extremely better quality.

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Phayzon said:
You know, you could just use the PrintScreen button and Paste it in paint for extremely better quality.



Thanks for the tip. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ultra tree 85!]

here's the back area that I showed before in the other se36 thread. Is the texturing better this time?

[Cerberus_e]

the floor and ceiling textures of that bar is the same as the floor and ceiling textures of the room itself. weird

[DavoX]

Yeah, imagine you have a table where you eat dinner and its made of the floor's ceramic lol, whats made of wood, make it wood, whats made of metal make it metal, etc http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[oak man]

Yeah you should change it...Post a wip! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif I wanno see your map

[DavoX]

I want to see it finished, come on! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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DavoX said:

I want to see it finished, come on! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



I'm making progress with it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I have a large parking lot area now. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I also made a vehicle you can enter because the roof is made of sprites. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[DavoX]

ultra tree 85! said:

DavoX said:

I want to see it finished, come on! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



I'm making progress with it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I have a large parking lot area now. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I also made a vehicle you can enter because the roof is made of sprites. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif




Way to go http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[DavoX]

I - WANT - THE - MAP http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ultra tree 85!]

Here are some more shots. The level is now at 98kb.
http://home.att.net/~dukenuke/DUKE0000.JPG
http://home.att.net/~dukenuke/DUKE0001.JPG
http://home.att.net/~dukenuke/DUKE0002.JPG
http://home.att.net/~dukenuke/DUKE0003.JPG

[Iggy]

Hard to tell anything about the map, those screenshots are pretty small for my liking.

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Here they are enlarged. :)
http://home.att.net/~dukenuke/DUKE0000.GIF
http://home.att.net/~dukenuke/DUKE0001.GIF
http://home.att.net/~dukenuke/DUKE0002.GIF
http://home.att.net/~dukenuke/DUKE0003.GIF

[ultra tree 85!]

Just had a very violent and bloody Dukematch in my level with bots.
It was very cool. I like how the aliens re-spawn, it makes it really intense.

[oak man]

Hey could you post more screens of your map?

[ultra tree 85!]

Here are some more shots. :)

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More-

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Even More-

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I'll change the texturing on the benches in the locker room. Also, I need to finish adding detail to the parking lot. :)

[oak man]

Cool Cool nice work;)

[GodBlitZor]

Its looking pretty good. But.. here are some suggestions

DETAILS!! Add some sprites here and there.
Work on youre texturing a little. Some stuff looks really weird and unrealistic. Also try making things more realistic, height and distance wise. Some things look kind of weird.

[ultra tree 85!]

Thanks oak man and GodBlitZor. :) I'm adding detail and yes, some of the texturing is strange. :D It should be fixed soon though. :)

[oak man]

yeah you need to retexture some things

[ultra tree 85!]

More screenshots-

[GodBlitZor]

Its getting better. But still, remember, REALISM. ;)

[oak man]

It's gettin' better and better

[ultra tree 85!]

It's gettin' better and better

Thanks. :)

Here are some more recent shots-

[oak man]

In the second shot there is a wall in the back with the blue sky texture, is it meant to be that way or do you not know how to make a wall parallax sky?

PS stiiiiillllll look forward to playing it;)

[Pappi_men]

To make it even better. Put some trash in streets.
Try do more details.

[mikenet2005]

To elaborate on what oak man said, making a wall appear non exsistant under a paralex sky is a great skill to aquire in mapping with both build and mapster.
It is also easy as pie, basicaly what you do is create a thin sector just inside the wall you would prefer to not apear and you parallex the ceiling of this new sector and drag it down to ground level. Make sure both sectors have the same sky texture.

The way I do it is not by making this new sector independent of the wall you wish to block, but by making it adjacent to the wall you wish to block.
I do it like that because it keeps the wall count down, athough I do believe it would work if you use an isolated sector as well.

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Well, I'd like to make the wall a parallax sky, but when I started the map, I used the city skybox. I'd like to change the skybox used by the whole level to the blue one, but as far as I know, there's no way to do that without corrupting the skybox completely. So, I can't parallax any of the blue sky areas. :(

[mikenet2005]

Ohhh, I see. You can use multiple sinlge frame sky textures in the same map but if any sky texture you use is composed of more than one frame then no. I get ya, Such as the city texture your using. I think the way around that would be to rid of all the multiframe sky textures, but I dont ever remember needing to do this myself but at the least its worth a try.

There is another alternative but it would require the use of editart. People have gone as far as to do there own sky textures in editart, Multiframe sky textures are most difficult because you have to match the frame pattern of an exsisting multiframe sky textures from 3d realms, for the seems to blend properly. Single frame sky textures are a breeze if you have a good photo editing program to work with.

[oak man]

^^
yeah I like making my own single frame skies:)

[ultra tree 85!]

Thanks for the advice. :) I'll think about doing my own sky texture, because getting rid of all the textures that I don't want never worked for me when I tried it before. :(

Here are some screens of a bathroom that I added in, a secret area in a ventilation duct, and a fish tank. :)

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Here are the others-

[Sang]

Doesn't look too bad - Although in the first pic the vents need to be darker as there is no lightsource. Also I'd change that white texture with the orange-ish stripe in the middle to something else ;)

[Jim]

Here are some screens of a bathroom that I added in, a secret area in a ventilation duct, and a fish tank. :)
You're telling us where the secret areas are? :confused:

[Telee]

Very nice - although I'd recommend using glass for that fish tank rather than a force field.

[ultra tree 85!]

You're telling us where the secret areas are? :confused:

Sorry about that, but only one of the places in the shots is actually a secret area. :) There are lots more secret places. :) Some of them are easy to find, and some have no clues and you just have to be lucky to find them.

[ultra tree 85!]

Very nice - although I'd recommend using glass for that fish tank rather than a force field.

Thanks for the comment :) , but I'm not sure I want to use glass because I tried making a blocked glass wall instead, and I was able to blow it out with a rocket launcher, and just walk into the tank, which was sort of weird.

[ultra tree 85!]

Doesn't look too bad - Although in the first pic the vents need to be darker as there is no lightsource. Also I'd change that white texture with the orange-ish stripe in the middle to something else ;)

Thanks :)

[Telee]

Thanks for the comment :) , but I'm not sure I want to use glass because I tried making a blocked glass wall instead, and I was able to blow it out with a rocket launcher, and just walk into the tank, which was sort of weird.

Use this glass:

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7082/glassph8.png

Than press T on it to apply transparancy.

[ultra tree 85!]

Use this glass:

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/7082/glassph8.png

Than press T on it to apply transparancy.

Ok, thanks. :) I'll put that texture in.

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Here's the new screen of that area-

[Ding Bat]

You're use of tile i think 126 is normaly a lighting fixture. The use of it around the frame of the fish tank and aas part of the air conditioning duct work with the fan is odd.

[Kef Nukem]

hey ultra tree, nice progress.

just let me give you one tip:
using shading!

You can do this by pointing at a wall and pressing "+" (=brighter) or "-" (=darker) and of course 'l in 2D on a wall.. I hope Im correct damnit its been years since I've used build :(

Anyways.. woohoo just wanted to celebrate with you guys that Ive been longer than 6 years on this forum damn.

Keep buildin'.

- Kuffi/ Kef_Nukem/ Kevin whatever.

[Telee]

hey ultra tree, nice progress.

just let me give you one tip:
using shading!

You can do this by pointing at a wall and pressing "+" (=brighter) or "-" (=darker) and of course 'l in 2D on a wall.. I hope Im correct damnit its been years since I've used build :(

Anyways.. woohoo just wanted to celebrate with you guys that Ive been longer than 6 years on this forum damn.

Keep buildin'.

- Kuffi/ Kef_Nukem/ Kevin whatever.

It's " + s for me (I use mapster)

EDIT: Just tested that, it worked :eek: Thanks, that'll help me out a lot too :)

[oak man]

ultra tree any progress man? I'd hate to here that you gave up :(

[ultra tree 85!]

ultra tree any progress man? I'd hate to here that you gave up :(

I'm still working on the map, and hopefully I will release it soon. All the keys/switches/ are in the level and it can be finished. I also have finally got enough weapons in the level so that you always have plenty. I'll have to stop and release it soon, because if I'm not careful I'll cross the sector limit. The map is currently 264kb, and has about 850 sectors. I'll try to finish it over the Thanksgiving holiday. :)

[ultra tree 85!]

hey ultra tree, nice progress.

just let me give you one tip:
using shading!

You can do this by pointing at a wall and pressing "+" (=brighter) or "-" (=darker) and of course 'l in 2D on a wall.. I hope Im correct damnit its been years since I've used build :(

Anyways.. woohoo just wanted to celebrate with you guys that Ive been longer than 6 years on this forum damn.

Keep buildin'.

- Kuffi/ Kef_Nukem/ Kevin whatever.

Thanks for the advice, I'm working on putting in more shading and more flashing light areas. :)

[ultra tree 85!]

You're use of tile i think 126 is normaly a lighting fixture. The use of it around the frame of the fish tank and aas part of the air conditioning duct work with the fan is odd.

Thanks, I changed it to a different texture. :)

[ultra tree 85!]

I finally finished it. Here's a link to the map on filefront. :)

http://files.filefront.com/darkbeachzip/;6413711;;/fileinfo.html

[Boinky]

This post has lasted forever!

[oak man]

wow its pretty good, and Im glad I finally got to play it, although for your next maps, texturing needs to be a little better, good job

[ultra tree 85!]

wow its pretty good, and Im glad I finally got to play it, although for your next maps, texturing needs to be a little better, good job

Thanks for playing it. :)