The Vehicles Thread [Archive]

Gideon

10-10-2005, 05:34 AM

I was just wondering if we'd be seeing any unique vehicles in DNF that most developers have ignored.

The main thing I'd really like to see in DNF is a large Hovercraft like the one in Rumble in the Bronx. That would totally kick ass to drive a hovercraft through a city, or desert. It would also be nice to drive a police cushman, I know it doesn't seem like much, but it might be fun. A segway? Hoverboard? Moller Skycar?

What are some other vehicles that other developers have truly ignored?

hell-angel

10-10-2005, 06:21 AM

UFO's and then I am refering to a Flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kalki

10-10-2005, 08:22 AM

How about any vehicle without the top down? Vehicles in shooters mostly always give you an open view of the sky because otherwise it's too confined-looking. Hence the jetskis, motorbikes, dune buggys, etc. An interior view of a car from a FEAR video puts it among the only recent games I saw that's an exception.

Gideon

10-10-2005, 10:03 AM

hell-angel said:
UFO's and then I am refering to a Flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

We already knew we were gonna get to fly that. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Mr.Sociopath

10-10-2005, 10:11 AM

Skies would be unique if he goes in snow , and would look like james bond http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
a big truck, is not usual..
delta plane.. there were one or two in far cry..but still unusual..
an helium proppeled balloon..
a "sledge" pulled by dogs..
a big mutant dog..
magic mushroom could be considered as vehicules http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
he could go to badgers world when taking them.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Cerberus_e

10-10-2005, 10:28 AM

rollercoaster cars http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif (for in a rollercoaster http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

phreak

10-10-2005, 10:30 AM

...

<_<

...

>_>

...

MULE!!!!

...

0_0

Suppressor

10-10-2005, 01:25 PM

What about a caterpiller?

big fat lazy

10-10-2005, 05:37 PM

Kalki said:
An interior view of a car from a FEAR video puts it among the only recent games I saw that's an exception.

I heard they took that part out http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif.

The only vehicles I really want in DNF is the motorcycle and mule.

Ras

10-10-2005, 07:52 PM

How about a souped-up version of the flying car from Duke Nukem 2.

EmperorZorn

10-10-2005, 08:02 PM

I want Duke to ride on Georges' back.

Gideon

10-10-2005, 08:51 PM

EmperorZorn said:
I want Duke to ride on Georges' back.

There's one for the best of the UBB. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Catipillar was a good one, maybe a bulldozer would also be nice. Parachute? Not really a vehicle, but you could control it. hanglider? A huge alien walker like the striders?

I can't wait to play this game.

Yatta

10-10-2005, 09:08 PM

I'd like to be able to fly a helicopter. It may be more difficult to handle than other vehicles, but I get the satisfaction of hovering above the alien bastards while shooting them to their demise.

Original ideas I liked that I read in above replies:

UFO/Flying Saucer
Airplane
Balloon
Sledge Pulled by Dogs (snow level?)
Cerberus, I'm not sure what you mean by rollercoaster cars but I'd like to see Duke riding coasters and doing drive by's in them and such.

I agree with Kalki in regards to interior viewing of the vehicle. Although there should be an option for the user to switch to third person. In the E3 2001 video the Jetski and Motorcycle were driven in first person view, and I think it should stay that way as the primary mode.

I would have Duke ride on George's back under the following conditions:

George will not have a bad back as a result. He won't be able to make any more sequels otherwise.

He shouldn't get tired too often. Duke can be a handful if you know what I mean.

I'd like to be able to do drive-by's while on George's back.

Duke should be curteous to George if he's going to get a ride from him. No whipping, kicking, or insults.

hell-angel

10-11-2005, 01:25 AM

Gideon said:

hell-angel said:
UFO's and then I am refering to a Flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

We already knew we were gonna get to fly that. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

We do?? Where did you read that?? It would be cool though since I have never seen a game where you could control a flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kalki

10-11-2005, 02:01 AM

Suppressor said:
What about a caterpiller?

How about the giant desert worm from the '01 video? Something cool for Duke to tame...

One vehicle I haven't heard suggested in a while (it used to be a big favourite among the DNF forum crowd), would be the M-M-Monster Truck.

hell-angel

10-11-2005, 05:12 AM

Kalki said:

Suppressor said:
What about a caterpiller?

How about the giant desert worm from the '01 video? Something cool for Duke to tame...

One vehicle I haven't heard suggested in a while (it used to be a big favourite among the DNF forum crowd), would be the M-M-Monster Truck.

hehe, that would fit duke allright. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Micki!

10-11-2005, 05:21 AM

hell-angel said:

Gideon said:

hell-angel said:
UFO's and then I am refering to a Flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

We already knew we were gonna get to fly that. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

We do?? Where did you read that?? It would be cool though since I have never seen a game where you could control a flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

There are flying saucers in the PS2 game Destroy all humans... And in the old PC game Incomming... (the UFO's in Incomming were pretty cool... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif)

Gideon

10-11-2005, 05:49 AM

hell-angel said:

Gideon said:

hell-angel said:
UFO's and then I am refering to a Flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

We already knew we were gonna get to fly that. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

We do?? Where did you read that?? It would be cool though since I have never seen a game where you could control a flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nobody said it for a fact, but you know we're gonna want to fly one, George know's we're gonna want to fly one.

We've got to get into the mothership somehow. This game is all about Area 51 and aliens. How could they not let us fly a flying saucer?

Rider

10-11-2005, 06:26 AM

I want to drive Duke's personal Hummer! (as seen in one of the '98 Screenshots)

hell-angel

10-11-2005, 07:27 AM

Gideon said:

hell-angel said:

Gideon said:

hell-angel said:
UFO's and then I am refering to a Flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

We already knew we were gonna get to fly that. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

We do?? Where did you read that?? It would be cool though since I have never seen a game where you could control a flying saucer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nobody said it for a fact, but you know we're gonna want to fly one, George know's we're gonna want to fly one.

We've got to get into the mothership somehow. This game is all about Area 51 and aliens. How could they not let us fly a flying saucer?

hehe, that is true, but the fact that they should by all logical reasons let us fly one does not mean they are actually going to let us fly one. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

saNlty

10-11-2005, 10:46 AM

I'd be glad for the return of Dukes jetpack.

EmperorZorn

10-11-2005, 11:34 AM

You should be able to mount strippers.
And when I say strippers I mean motorcycles...

Congratulations, you are confused now.

Micki!

10-11-2005, 01:10 PM

EmperorZorn said:
You should be able to mount strippers.
And when I say strippers I mean motorcycles...

Huh..!? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Congratulations, you are confused now.

Thanks... It worked... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

hell-angel

10-12-2005, 01:23 AM

EmperorZorn said:
You should be able to mount strippers.
And when I say strippers I mean motorcycles...

Congratulations, you are confused now.

hehe LOL. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif So does that mean that the motorcylces are actually strippers or that they are stripped?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Micki!

10-12-2005, 01:52 AM

hell-angel said:

EmperorZorn said:
You should be able to mount strippers.
And when I say strippers I mean motorcycles...

Congratulations, you are confused now.

hehe LOL. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif So does that mean that the motorcylces are actually strippers or that they are stripped?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Maybe he meant that we're able to ride the strippers..! (OMG, HOT COFFEE!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif)

hell-angel

10-12-2005, 04:55 AM

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

EmperorZorn said:
You should be able to mount strippers.
And when I say strippers I mean motorcycles...

Congratulations, you are confused now.

hehe LOL. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif So does that mean that the motorcylces are actually strippers or that they are stripped?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Maybe he meant that we're able to ride the strippers..! (OMG, HOT COFFEE!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif)

sssst, don't say that so loud, what if hilary or tomphson hears this, DNF will be banned before it is even released. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

Micki!

10-12-2005, 05:00 AM

hell-angel said:

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

EmperorZorn said:
You should be able to mount strippers.
And when I say strippers I mean motorcycles...

Congratulations, you are confused now.

hehe LOL. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif So does that mean that the motorcylces are actually strippers or that they are stripped?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Maybe he meant that we're able to ride the strippers..! (OMG, HOT COFFEE!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif)

sssst, don't say that so loud, what if hilary or tomphson hears this, DNF will be banned before it is even released. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

:NOOO: (<-- we could REALLY need this one..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif)

Zaarin

10-12-2005, 06:20 AM

hell-angel said:
sssst, don't say that so loud, what if hilary or tomphson hears this, DNF will be banned before it is even released. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

If that happens, I'm going to invade United States.

hell-angel

10-12-2005, 07:08 AM

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

EmperorZorn said:
You should be able to mount strippers.
And when I say strippers I mean motorcycles...

Congratulations, you are confused now.

hehe LOL. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif So does that mean that the motorcylces are actually strippers or that they are stripped?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Maybe he meant that we're able to ride the strippers..! (OMG, HOT COFFEE!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif)

sssst, don't say that so loud, what if hilary or tomphson hears this, DNF will be banned before it is even released. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

:NOOO: (<-- we could REALLY need this one..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif)

True. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Zaarin said:

hell-angel said:
sssst, don't say that so loud, what if hilary or tomphson hears this, DNF will be banned before it is even released. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

If that happens, I'm going to invade United States.

Right behind you buddy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Cerberus_e

10-12-2005, 07:58 AM

hell-angel said:

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

EmperorZorn said:
You should be able to mount strippers.
And when I say strippers I mean motorcycles...

Congratulations, you are confused now.

hehe LOL. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif So does that mean that the motorcylces are actually strippers or that they are stripped?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Maybe he meant that we're able to ride the strippers..! (OMG, HOT COFFEE!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif)

sssst, don't say that so loud, what if hilary or tomphson hears this, DNF will be banned before it is even released. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

:NOOO: (<-- we could REALLY need this one..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif)

True. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'd rather have a :shy: emoticon, I really feel need to use one sometimes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

hell-angel

10-12-2005, 07:59 AM

Cerberus_e said:

hell-angel said:

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

EmperorZorn said:
You should be able to mount strippers.
And when I say strippers I mean motorcycles...

Congratulations, you are confused now.

hehe LOL. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif So does that mean that the motorcylces are actually strippers or that they are stripped?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Maybe he meant that we're able to ride the strippers..! (OMG, HOT COFFEE!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif)

sssst, don't say that so loud, what if hilary or tomphson hears this, DNF will be banned before it is even released. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

:NOOO: (<-- we could REALLY need this one..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif)

True. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'd rather have a :shy: emoticon, I really feel need to use one sometimes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

In short, we need more emoticons. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Sterko

10-27-2005, 04:54 AM

What vehicules will Duke use?

I've seen a donkey and a motorcycle in the 2001 trailer... Will those things be part of the game? Are any others planned?

thx

Micki!

10-27-2005, 04:59 AM

I hope there will be a Harley in DNF..!
But i wouldn't want all kinds of drivable vehicles... That just doesn't seem Duke-like...

But a few sequences with special vehicles like Jetplanes, or similar woulnd't be too bad..!

I also don't think that vehicles only will play a part in the game on special events/missions..! (if there are ANY vehicles in DNF that is)

hell-angel

10-27-2005, 05:11 AM

The deliverator was seen in the 99 screenshots IIRC. But I think that DNF will most likely be mostly on foot. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif And that's the way I like it because there is no way you can kick ass while you are in a vehicle. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

SyntaxN

10-27-2005, 06:52 AM

hell-angel said:
The deliverator was seen in the 99 screenshots IIRC. But I think that DNF will most likely be mostly on foot. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif And that's the way I like it because there is no way you can kick ass while you are in a vehicle. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

85-90% on foot and 15-10% in vehicles please http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif (and not just one type...)

hell-angel

10-27-2005, 07:09 AM

SyntaxN said:

hell-angel said:
The deliverator was seen in the 99 screenshots IIRC. But I think that DNF will most likely be mostly on foot. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif And that's the way I like it because there is no way you can kick ass while you are in a vehicle. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

85-90% on food and 15-10% in vehicles please http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif (and not just one type...)

food?? it's a game, not something to eat.

oh, you must mean foot http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Just joking, and I think your numbers sounds nice for DNF. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

SyntaxN

10-27-2005, 07:28 AM

hell-angel said:
food?? it's a game, not something to eat.

oh, you must mean foot http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Just joking, and I think your numbers sounds nice for DNF. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

f*cking typos...they all deserve to die http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

hell-angel

10-27-2005, 08:07 AM

SyntaxN said:

hell-angel said:
food?? it's a game, not something to eat.

oh, you must mean foot http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Just joking, and I think your numbers sounds nice for DNF. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

f*cking typos...they all deserve to die http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

hehe I hear you men. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

dudetheman19

10-27-2005, 08:26 AM

SyntaxN said:
85-90% on foot and 15-10% in vehicles please http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif (and not just one type...)

Would love to see scooters, skateboards, bikes and some really odd ones too :-) Vehicles that do "stuff"

hell-angel

10-27-2005, 09:06 AM

nah, those things are not cool enough for Duke IMO. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Megami

10-27-2005, 03:03 PM

I'm going with most of it on foot with vehicles here and there

1) Jetpack (does this count as a vehicle?)
2) Not something big to drive, just ride in
3) Motorcycle seems Duke to me
4) The jetski's in the 2001 trailer were a nice touch http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

X-Vector

10-27-2005, 03:07 PM

A tank, of course.

SyntaxN

10-27-2005, 03:13 PM

X-Vector said:
A tank, of course.

Surprisingly....a tank came never in my mind, but the idea is pretty cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

X-Vector

10-27-2005, 03:23 PM

Duke could 'borrow' a tank at pig cop HQ and give 'em a taste of their own medicine!

Echo Black

10-27-2005, 03:33 PM

X-Vector said:
Duke could 'borrow' a tank at pig cop HQ and give 'em a taste of their own medicine!

Hopefully the armored tanks from Duke3d http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif The ones the pigcops drove at the Duke Burger level.

trackit

10-27-2005, 03:33 PM

i would like to drive vehicles from time to time, but

1) there have to be enough space to drive them.
2) make driving then cool and easy... even if you have to sacrifiy the "realism" factor.
I dont want to get stuck by every stone or small tree.... I want to ride and blast http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Cerberus_e

10-27-2005, 03:38 PM

if ti's on a par with water hazard and highway 17 I'm very happy.

SyntaxN

10-27-2005, 03:42 PM

Cerberus_e said:
if ti's on a par with water hazard and highway 17 I'm very happy.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif
I expect something which is better, possibly shorter but better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

trackit

10-27-2005, 03:56 PM

Cerberus_e said:
if ti's on a par with water hazard and highway 17 I'm very happy.

acutally i liked far cry vehicles more... except that in far cry you couldnt see the road so well...

Sterko

10-28-2005, 03:44 AM

X-Vector said:
A tank, of course.

Yeah, a tank suits perfectly with duke...

According to the 2001 trailer, it seems there will be planes in the game. Is Duke going to remake an "hollyhood holocaust" crash? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Cerberus_e

10-28-2005, 09:49 AM

SyntaxN said:

Cerberus_e said:
if ti's on a par with water hazard and highway 17 I'm very happy.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif
I expect something which is better, possibly shorter but better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

what would you have improved on water hazard then?
I really liked it, its length was just right.
as soon as I thought "it was cool, but now it's enough", white letters "black mesa east" appeared on my screen.
so don't say any generic stuff like "making it shorter" just say what you would have improved http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif be specific http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

trackit said:

Cerberus_e said:
if ti's on a par with water hazard and highway 17 I'm very happy.

acutally i liked far cry vehicles more... except that in far cry you couldnt see the road so well...

I liked far cry's vehicles better as well because at least the screen also turns sideways when one of your vehicle's sides (left or right) is more upwards http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

laffer

10-28-2005, 12:13 PM

I hope can take a ride on some babes at least.

SyntaxN

10-28-2005, 12:34 PM

Cerberus_e said:

SyntaxN said:

Cerberus_e said:
if ti's on a par with water hazard and highway 17 I'm very happy.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif
I expect something which is better, possibly shorter but better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

what would you have improved on water hazard then?
I really liked it, its length was just right.
as soon as I thought "it was cool, but now it's enough", white letters "black mesa east" appeared on my screen.
so don't say any generic stuff like "making it shorter" just say what you would have improved http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif be specific http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

This *whatever it might be* vehicle don´t feels good in any way, that´s my main problem with watar hazard!
Highway 17 is just stretched, the *cool* moments are to far away from each other http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
The whole thing should have been compressed to ca. 2/3 of it´s length...

Sigma

10-28-2005, 12:35 PM

Personally, I'd enjoy gameplay in which the player could pilot the following:

*An AV-8 Harrier II
*Some kind of alien hovercraft, preferably through long-abandoned subway tunnels
*One of those attacking rocket craft from Lunar Apocalypse
*A gigantic spacecraft large enough to qualify as a level unto itself
*A forty-foot Alex Trebek mecha

Sang

10-28-2005, 01:08 PM

Sigma said:
*One of those attacking rocket craft from Lunar Apocalypse

This one might be pretty cool actually, but it should be saved for the last levels, when you have to go destroy Proton's (well is he still the bad guy?) base or something like that and you'd have alien crafts all over you... And you'd be flying in space, near the earth, on the moon...Yes, that would be quite something.

Big poppa

10-29-2005, 07:13 AM

I certainly hope Duke won't fly no hovercar.

Kalki

10-29-2005, 11:28 PM

Why not? It might be cool with the ability to glide over difficult terrain.

Tixus

10-29-2005, 11:37 PM

I had a dream that I was playing DNF (Hmm, I've had an awful lot of them lately), in a portion that involved a hovercar. Only the cool thing was, you didn't need it at all. It was just there because some guy left it there, and you could walk up and drive around in it--it wasn't required for anything at all. Well, it was a cool vehicle in my dream, anyway.

Mr.Sociopath

10-30-2005, 02:12 PM

I just had an uber mega great idea!..a pedal boat and a tiny tricycle!

hell-angel

10-31-2005, 01:35 AM

Mr.Sociopath said:
I just had an uber mega great idea!..a pedal boat and a tiny tricycle!

that sucks. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Needle

10-31-2005, 01:49 AM

There's only one ride that would do Duke justice.

http://digilander.libero.it/WhySoMuchHate/scorched/kongdrop.jpg

Micki!

10-31-2005, 03:57 AM

Needle said:
There's only one ride that would do Duke justice.

http://digilander.libero.it/WhySoMuchHate/scorched/kongdrop.jpg

HAHAHA..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

roryok

11-14-2005, 03:48 PM

hell-angel said:
there is no way you can kick ass while you are in a vehicle.

Of course you can kick ass in a vehicle. You can even literally kick someones ass while on a bike. Just stick your foot out!

Imagine how cool it would be to flatten pigcops with the duke boot while flying past on a harley!

I-Ninja

11-14-2005, 07:10 PM

Duke should have a motercycle. Or a tank. Or a segway.

hell-angel

11-15-2005, 01:26 AM

roryok said:

hell-angel said:
there is no way you can kick ass while you are in a vehicle.

Of course you can kick ass in a vehicle. You can even literally kick someones ass while on a bike. Just stick your foot out!

Imagine how cool it would be to flatten pigcops with the duke boot while flying past on a harley!

True, but then again, harley owns. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And I specifically said in a vehicle, not on. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

roryok

11-15-2005, 01:18 PM

hell-angel said:

roryok said:

hell-angel said:
there is no way you can kick ass while you are in a vehicle.

Of course you can kick ass in a vehicle. You can even literally kick someones ass while on a bike. Just stick your foot out!

Imagine how cool it would be to flatten pigcops with the duke boot while flying past on a harley!

True, but then again, harley owns. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And I specifically said in a vehicle, not on. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Alright then. I was gonna start splitting heirs and talking about kicking someone's ass onboard a moving airplane, but lets just say you were right.

Still think there should be vehicles tho. regardless of literal ass kicking potential therein.

colmtourque

11-15-2005, 02:41 PM

OK why is it that a paddle boat or trike seem right like kinda mockery funny---but a segway seems so gay?
...I don't even have anything against a segway.

roryok

11-15-2005, 02:50 PM

colmtourque said:
OK why is it that a paddle boat or trike seem right like kinda mockery funny---but a segway seems so gay?
...I don't even have anything against a segway.

Pedal boats are hilariously slow
Trikes are hilariously small

Segways are just... gay

Big poppa

11-15-2005, 03:11 PM

I just wanna ride my motorcyc...le.

Murder

11-15-2005, 04:45 PM

Something like the beta movie from FEAR,if anyone can remember (the part in wich your chief drives )

Some half-life 2 type speedboat,i would love too see something that would really take advantage of the physics.

roryok

11-17-2005, 07:10 AM

Murder said:
Something like the beta movie from FEAR,if anyone can remember (the part in wich your chief drives )

Some half-life 2 type speedboat,i would love too see something that would really take advantage of the physics.

heres a few vehicle ideas.

1. Some kind of hard core truck, a hummer or something that can bash stuff out of its way. With room in the back for any stuff duke wants to move, or passengers (ie. chicks!)

2. A harley. For definite. I think Vice City proved that nothing's more fun than weaving a bike around traffic and firing at things in your way

3. A hovercraft (small one), with mounted guns. One that uses proper physics w/momentum, so you can spin the thing on its axis to face behind you and fire at the bad guys while still moving forward

4. Some sort of wacky gyrocopter like the one from mad max 2

5. Jet Skis? Saw em in the 2001 vid, still like the idea

Murder

11-17-2005, 07:20 AM

Good ideea's

Something fitting i think would be a monster truck.

Assault

11-17-2005, 09:45 AM

How about mounting a Pigcop. Jump on his back and ride him for a few seconds, before he manages to hit you or you manage you blast his face.

hell-angel

11-18-2005, 01:34 AM

Assault said:
How about mounting a Pigcop. Jump on his back and ride him for a few seconds, before he manages to hit you or you manage you blast his face.

Bad idea, I don't think that mounting an enemie would be usefull, would be cool in a movie or something, but we all know that will not be in since the game will be through dukes eyes only. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

roryok

01-07-2006, 10:24 AM

hell-angel said:

Zaarin said:

hell-angel said:
sssst, don't say that so loud, what if hilary or tomphson hears this, DNF will be banned before it is even released. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

If that happens, I'm going to invade United States.

Right behind you buddy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Me too. Prepare to be liberated! Anyone who opposes us is a freedom hating anti-american. Or worse, from canada.

Denz

01-07-2006, 10:27 AM

phreak said:
...

<_<

...

>_>

...

MULE!!!!

...

0_0

Agreed

Mule is Simple and original and fun. What more?

roryok

01-07-2006, 11:41 AM

it'd be cool alright, a vehicle that gets tired!

Simon Charles

03-09-2006, 06:12 PM

When the bike slides underneath the truck and comes out on the other side, is that scripted or can the player really pull off those maneuvers in realtime? I've been watching the video recently and I can't tell.

Seraph

03-09-2006, 06:19 PM

I hope you get this answered...

Been bugging me as well.

SyntaxN

03-09-2006, 06:35 PM

Well, I hope that totally controlable vehicles are still in!!!
Driving Duke´s Harley while shooting enemies with the desert eagle... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Commando Nukem

03-09-2006, 06:37 PM

I think we can all guess it was a real vechile. There were several vechile sections in the 2001 edition. (The Jet Ski, The tunnel car, the camel/donky, the EDF jeep/truck, the harley.)

I believe they had a driveable hummer in DNF 98. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

DavoX

03-09-2006, 06:59 PM

I don't mind scripted vehicle sequences or action sequences, it could even use Indigo phrophecy's Keys system to go through the sequences. check out Indigo Phrophecy AKA Fahrenheit, its really good and its keys system would be a great addition to the game.

Kalki

03-09-2006, 11:29 PM

DavoX said:

I don't mind scripted vehicle sequences or action sequences, it could even use Indigo phrophecy's Keys system to go through the sequences. check out Indigo Phrophecy AKA Fahrenheit, its really good and its keys system would be a great addition to the game.

Sequences are one thing, scripting special vehicle moves for sequences is another. That is messing with gameplay and I don't want it. Moves like that should be handled within the vehicle's physics parameters.

hell-angel

03-10-2006, 02:31 AM

Simon Charles said:
When the bike slides underneath the truck and comes out on the other side, is that scripted or can the player really pull off those maneuvers in realtime? I've been watching the video recently and I can't tell.

It's a good question, but not really relevant since that build is removed and the game is restarted. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Still, it would be nice to know the answer. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Asmodeusz

03-10-2006, 04:41 AM

I am almost sure it is scripted.

The bike makes an 180 degrees rotation while going under the truck - to perfect and slick, for me.
Secondly I guess George said the 2001 video was a benchmark of what they could do. A very few (if any) things from the trailer, were actually in game.

Commando Nukem

03-10-2006, 04:47 AM

Almost all the shots are from Dukes perspective as hes in combat. I simply cannot buy that most of that stuff seen in the trailer was scripted. Why is it so hard to believe that bike was the player? Looks like it handles just like the buggy in Half-Life 2. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

hell-angel

03-10-2006, 04:57 AM

Commando Nukem said:
Almost all the shots are from Dukes perspective as hes in combat. I simply cannot buy that most of that stuff seen in the trailer was scripted. Why is it so hard to believe that bike was the player? Looks like it handles just like the buggy in Half-Life 2. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

I agree, maybe it is scripted but a player could do that as well. Remember that they make several shots and pick the one they like best. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Also, I don't remember GB saying that most of the video was benchmark.

Cerberus_e

03-10-2006, 05:14 AM

Even if the player can pull that off in realtime I don't think it will ever happen. Everyone will either brake, or turn around. The opportunity has to be SO coincidental to make such events possible http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

roryok

03-10-2006, 05:23 AM

Cerberus_e said:
Even if the player can pull that off in realtime I don't think it will ever happen. Everyone will either brake, or turn around. The opportunity has to be SO coincidental to make such events possible http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

nu-uh, the truck could be scripted without the bike being scripted. Maybe you spin round a corner, and the truck pulls out, and u have a choice brake, slide, or crash.

Kinda like in hl2 / waterhazard:
there are loads of places where things are scripted to fall or get in the way so you have to go around or under, but the control is ultimately yours.

Also, if I was recording demo footage, I'd sure as hell slide under the truck rather than brake like a sissy.

hell-angel

03-10-2006, 06:23 AM

Commando Nukem

03-10-2006, 06:29 AM

Well they were going for an Action movie trailer motif. Im sure they werent playing the game quite "right" during the video capture process.

Little Conqueror

03-10-2006, 06:49 AM

It could very well be necessary to slide under the truck: perhaps there's some sort of time limit or enemy chasing you.

Montykoro!

03-10-2006, 08:04 AM

In HL2 in the "lost coast" the enemy blows up a Chimney and you can choose.... brake... or pass under...

is a mix....the explosion is scripted but the player choose...goin under...brake...

Cerberus_e

03-10-2006, 08:48 AM

But still, some mines falling from the sky are easier to script that way as a truck. no player will know it's possible to slide under it even.

DHDF

03-10-2006, 08:50 AM

Commando Nukem said:
I think we can all guess it was a real vechile. There were several vechile sections in the 2001 edition. (The Jet Ski, The tunnel car, the camel/donky, the EDF jeep/truck, the harley.)

I believe they had a driveable hummer in DNF 98. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

i hope we get both the hummer and the harley in the final summer 2006 version...

trackit

03-10-2006, 10:19 AM

DHDF said:
i hope we get both the hummer and the harley in the final summer 2006 version...

i hate to disappoint you, but you wount get even a bicycle in summer 2006 version http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Haravikk

03-10-2006, 11:04 AM

I'm pretty sure the bike is scripted, but Duke probably isn't, so Duke controls the bike, while you make him fire at enemies.

I honestly don't think that a full action bike sequence would work in a first-person view, controlling it would be hard, too much going on, and to make it believable, you'd die if you hit ANYTHING, or at least fall off and roll quite a distance.

All the vehicle scenes in the 2001 trailer look to me like the vehicle (or donkey) is scripted while player is controlling the view/weapons.

Commando Nukem

03-10-2006, 11:38 AM

Duke cant use weapons on the bike, hes got both hands on the sticks. A friend of mine and I had a pigcop hover craft in an HL mod that we never released without any trouble, it was easy as hell to control. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Haravikk

03-10-2006, 05:46 PM

Yeah but a hover-craft is fundamentally easier to control, and in most games 'dumbed down', so that if you hit something you just strafe out the way or something. If you're on a motor-bike and you hit something, you fall off, and (with some luck) pick yourself up, pick your bike up, aim it away from the obstacle and carry on.

Think bikes in GTA, it's VERY hard to drive those well, and they have a 3rd person view of your surroundings and limited firing control.
You'd need a huge stretch and some devilishly good controls to make it work, I'm fairly skeptical if it CAN work. I think if anyone can do it, it's 3dr, but I think it's fundamentally something that might not work, if you strive for a balance between speed, action and ease-of-control then you're going to suffer in one or more of those, as the more speed and action, the harder the control etc.
Whereas a scripted bike solves ease of control because you don't have to do anything at all.

IMO it makes sense anyway, as this is a first person shooter, not a vehicle simulator, or a first person driver =)

Also, Duke doesn't HAVE to have both hands on the handle-bars, he can take one hand off and fire. Hell, he can take both hands off to fire if he really wants, he's the Duke!

DavoX

03-10-2006, 06:05 PM

You CAN ride the bike, control it and cause mayhem all over the place, not necesarily with guns but maybe kicking stuff that trigers something,i dunno, but you can drive a bike full speed and experience a lot of action in my opinion. if you get killed in a crash its very simple, load and retry, all games had been always that way in difficult parts.

Commando Nukem

03-10-2006, 09:20 PM

Haravikk said:
Yeah but a hover-craft is fundamentally easier to control, and in most games 'dumbed down', so that if you hit something you just strafe out the way or something. If you're on a motor-bike and you hit something, you fall off, and (with some luck) pick yourself up, pick your bike up, aim it away from the obstacle and carry on.

Think bikes in GTA, it's VERY hard to drive those well, and they have a 3rd person view of your surroundings and limited firing control.
You'd need a huge stretch and some devilishly good controls to make it work, I'm fairly skeptical if it CAN work. I think if anyone can do it, it's 3dr, but I think it's fundamentally something that might not work, if you strive for a balance between speed, action and ease-of-control then you're going to suffer in one or more of those, as the more speed and action, the harder the control etc.
Whereas a scripted bike solves ease of control because you don't have to do anything at all.

IMO it makes sense anyway, as this is a first person shooter, not a vehicle simulator, or a first person driver =)

Also, Duke doesn't HAVE to have both hands on the handle-bars, he can take one hand off and fire. Hell, he can take both hands off to fire if he really wants, he's the Duke!

Well not to be technical but John Wayne is "The Duke" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anomalous Entity

03-11-2006, 04:44 AM

John Wayne's dead, thus making Duke Nukem the real Duke. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

And as for vehicles, I would much prefer the Harley being controlable rather than scripted. The vehicle I really want was the mine cart though, it was so cool.....

Halcyon

03-11-2006, 05:41 AM

Anomalous Entity said:
And as for vehicles, I would much prefer the Harley being controlable rather than scripted.

I agree and I don't think it was scripted. As Little Conqueror said, the bike sequence could have been some sort of chasing sequence with a time limit or something like that.

Oh, and yes, the minecart scene looked damn cool. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Commando Nukem

03-11-2006, 10:05 AM

roryok said:

Cerberus_e said:
Even if the player can pull that off in realtime I don't think it will ever happen. Everyone will either brake, or turn around. The opportunity has to be SO coincidental to make such events possible http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

nu-uh, the truck could be scripted without the bike being scripted. Maybe you spin round a corner, and the truck pulls out, and u have a choice brake, slide, or crash.

Kinda like in hl2 / waterhazard:
there are loads of places where things are scripted to fall or get in the way so you have to go around or under, but the control is ultimately yours.

Also, if I was recording demo footage, I'd sure as hell slide under the truck rather than brake like a sissy.

The truck aint moving, its parked. Duke has to go under it to go through that area, I went through that sequence frame by frame. They had him do the 180 for fun. Its clearly a player controlled vechile. As far as I know 3DR doesnt want Instrusive gameplay mechanics.

The Minecart is a completely different story. As it seems you are even able to control the movement of that to some extent. (Tilting it, probably "breaking" it too).

On that same token, the jetski is very obviously a player controlled vehicle.

BTW, it never even crossed my mind that they werent Player Controlled, and i've looked over the videos frame-by-frame many times. They ring no differently then they did in Half-life, Red Faction, the old Terminator FPS (which let you drive a jeep and a Hunter Killer I believe)

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

roryok

03-11-2006, 10:11 AM

Haravikk said:
Yeah but a hover-craft is fundamentally easier to control

Says the guy who's never tried to control a hovercraft...

They go all over the place! you end up sliding sideways half the time. Hovercraft are very difficult to control.

In the real world at least.

Commando Nukem

03-11-2006, 10:17 AM

Well the hovercraft we had designed for the HL mod was still pretty early when we went down. But you could go up and down and fly on the horizontal axis (your mouse didnt really have any control over your flight path as I remember). It appeared to handle no differently then the bike in the E3 2001 video. In fact, I could (and often did) perform that turn. Come around and blast some dude with rockets and lasers. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

lonestar

03-11-2006, 11:37 AM

sounds good, commando nukem. do you still have some pics of it?

Commando Nukem

03-11-2006, 11:48 AM

Unfortunatly no, the entire mod was lost about... Sheesh, like two years ago. Both of us had some pretty crappy computer trouble. (Not to mention a drop in actual development). Worse with him because he was the coder, I couldnt code to save my life.

But it was fun, considering it was buggy. We had basically copied a lot of the stuff from the 2001 video. I think we even had plans for a bike too. But there was no modeling done for it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Nessus

03-11-2006, 11:52 AM

I always figured that if you turned hard and applied the brake that the bike did a 180 slide around. Pretty much exactly how a car will do the same thing if you pull the emergency brake and cut the wheel.

roryok

03-12-2006, 06:57 AM

Commando Nukem said:
Well the hovercraft we had designed for the HL mod was still pretty early when we went down. But you could go up and down and fly on the horizontal axis (your mouse didnt really have any control over your flight path as I remember). It appeared to handle no differently then the bike in the E3 2001 video. In fact, I could (and often did) perform that turn. Come around and blast some dude with rockets and lasers. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

oh , ok so you're not talking about an actual hovercraft, but rather some sort of sci-fi antigrav hovering vehicle.

ok. get it now.

Commando Nukem

03-12-2006, 12:00 PM

The PigCopcar thingy basically yeah.

But on that note, if you compared footage of other vehicles (Like the Half-Life 2 buggy and so on) to the Duke Bike, you can just see the guys at 3D realms REALLY tweaked the handling on the bike to make it fun and easy to control.

DavoX

03-12-2006, 12:11 PM

GB already said "fun over realism"

Acid

03-12-2006, 01:13 PM

I just hope the harleys still in the game , and drivable.
Imagine how it would look now ..and the sound of that engine as you start it up.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

jazgour

03-12-2006, 05:34 PM

I think it would be so awesome if Duke could pick up flag poles and Joust with them on his bike/impale pig cop or another enemy.
Followed by a Duke one-liner. Ex: "gave that guy the shaft"

http://www.indygear.com/props/images/lcbike.jpg
Some of you may get a better picture by reminiscing this scene from Indian Jones:The Last Crusade.

MetametheusX

03-12-2006, 05:35 PM

What would be awsome is for some areas that use like a bike or a car or something you can drive or operate and choose whether or not you want to use them rather than being forced to use it. Imagine walking down main street putting a .44 or .50 caliber round through reckless alien drivers windshields as they try to run you down and jumping the bull as they fly at you. Sure it would make the scene go from a 2 - 10 minute level go to a 20 - 40 minute level but thats something to think about right?

hell-angel

03-13-2006, 02:09 AM

Yeah, that bike is cool. I would love to be able to ride that in DNF. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

roryok

03-13-2006, 06:27 AM

hell-angel said:
Yeah, that bike is cool. I would love to be able to ride that in DNF. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

with bombshell in the sidecar, blasting away pigs following on cop bikes!

hell-angel

03-14-2006, 02:12 AM

roryok said:

hell-angel said:
Yeah, that bike is cool. I would love to be able to ride that in DNF. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

with bombshell in the sidecar, blasting away pigs following on cop bikes!

hehe, that would be cool, but Duke can do that himself as he will play chicken with the pig cops in a tank and still win. He is that good. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Commando Nukem

03-14-2006, 02:14 AM

He'll ram that tank, get out. Slip atop the tank and tap twice. "Little pig, little pig, let me in! Or i'll huff, and i'll puff, and kick your ass in!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ultra tree 85!

03-14-2006, 08:59 PM

Commando Nukem said:
He'll ram that tank, get out. Slip atop the tank and tap twice. "Little pig, little pig, let me in! Or i'll huff, and i'll puff, and kick your ass in!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I loved that Duke line.

Commando Nukem

03-14-2006, 09:24 PM

The man doesnt know how to say something lame.

"That aint gonna be virgin wool."

"So, who wants to dance?"

"So, there *is* life after death."

"Oh Silverback, one more thing, i'm going to enjoy PISSING on your dead body!"

"Im not gonna fight you... Im going to kick your ass!"

It'd be funny if Duke had specific to-the-bike taunts.

"CRUNNNCH!!!"
"Thats gonna leave skid marks..."
"Its time to paint the highway red!"

(Im going on a quoting spree me thinks!) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Montykoro!

03-15-2006, 08:54 PM

Hey in GTA San andres...you drive a "bike" and shoot... yes is in 3dr person...but It's te same in first... you drive with " W A S D" and space for hand brake... fire? yes! whit mouse.... but limited only pistol... a sub o shotgun is imposible to shoot in a bike (only Norris...:) )

For me is Simply...you can drive the Harley and kill Pigs

Commando Nukem

03-15-2006, 09:27 PM

You also could drive bikes in Vice City.

The difference is Duke isnt a GTA style game. The mechanics are different. In the video his hands are clearly locked to the mesh of the bike. There is no sign that they could move. Chances are they wouldnt want Duke to do anything but driving while on the bike.

hell-angel

03-16-2006, 02:05 AM

Commando Nukem said:
You also could drive bikes in Vice City.

The difference is Duke isnt a GTA style game. The mechanics are different. In the video his hands are clearly locked to the mesh of the bike. There is no sign that they could move. Chances are they wouldnt want Duke to do anything but driving while on the bike.

What he said. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Besides, who says the bike doesn't have rocket launchers on it. Like from the cartoon, biker mice from mars.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Montykoro!

03-16-2006, 07:47 PM

hell-angel said: biker mice from mars.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

That cartoon is a "Blue screen" for your mind....

hell-angel

03-17-2006, 01:53 AM

Montykoro! said:

hell-angel said: biker mice from mars.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

That cartoon is a "Blue screen" for your mind....

Nah, it rocks. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Gotta love the quote:
"Let's rock, and ride!!!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

the longest death

04-15-2006, 06:24 PM

Malgon

04-16-2006, 09:54 PM

^
Maybe the Duke can. ;)

Montykoro!

04-17-2006, 03:04 PM

Nah, it rocks. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Gotta love the quote:
"Let's rock, and ride!!!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

A wannabe of the Mutant ninja turtles...

ON topic:

For me is toooo simple...

Duke see bomb shell racing in a "sport bike", duke said... MMM fancy bike...fancy girl...

Duke jump in harley an chase bomb shell... in the middle duke shoot pig cops... and "evade" a "cryo tanker" (Terminator II :p) Finaly Bomb shell blow a bridge Duke jump the gap (maybe shout: Born to be wild) and broke the harley... bomb shell escape...

hell-angel

04-18-2006, 05:20 AM

vehical seqences in fps usually dont work all to good, there repetative and boring. i hated the boat in half-life 2 but the buggy was ok, the harley seems like a good idea but then you cant ride a harley and shoot at the same time.

Put a gun (or turret) on the bike. :D ;)

Like the dual mounted rocket launchers from the mule. ;)

Micki!

04-18-2006, 01:17 PM

I want a jet-turbine powered bicycle... :cool:

hell-angel

04-19-2006, 02:11 AM

I want a jet-turbine powered bicycle... :cool:

hehe, or just a bike with a V10 engine of an viper on it. ;)

Micki!

04-19-2006, 06:02 AM

This reminds me of the Afterburner in Carmageddon TDR 2000 (this wasn't as good as the two previous games imo)
The afterburner simply made you fly all over the place in ridiculously high speeds... You couldn't even make turns with the car... :D

Uhm, we better get back on topic...

IF the bike is in DNF, i personally think it's because you should get somewhere in a hurry, or because you're fleeing from something...
Events like this would seem perfect with a vehicle like this...

But fights on it, would be too annoying i think... You'd be better off on foot by killing enemies than riding a Bike while doing so...

hell-angel

04-19-2006, 06:44 AM

Micki!

04-19-2006, 09:49 AM

And of course, Duke DOESN'T flee. ;)
Yeah, let's call it: "Duke's finding a better spot to fight in..." instead...:cool:

hell-angel

04-20-2006, 02:15 AM

Yeah, let's call it: "Duke's finding a better spot to fight in..." instead...:cool:

No, Duke simply kicks ass, and when he can't find an ass to kick, he will go to a different place and kick ass there. That in the trip to that different place he will find more ass to kick is not his fault. ;)

Xerxes

04-20-2006, 08:42 AM

But fights on it, would be too annoying i think...
What if you got to run over them instead of shooting them?

And if they couldn't hurt you, you could just ignore them if you didn't want to fight them..

Micki!

04-20-2006, 01:59 PM

Running into one or ywo enemies wouldn't be too bad... But it would feel all too un-varied if that's the only way to beat them... And ignoring enemies (in case there might be fights on it) wouldn't be very good... I mean, enemies hurt you, so if you don't manage to kill them, or dodge them, you'll obviously get damaged... :o And i don't like it in games, if you can't avoid geting damaged in certain occations...

Xerxes

04-20-2006, 09:20 PM

you'll obviously get damaged...
You could be in a big metal car with no openings.

Then the car would get damaged, unless it were indestructable.

Micki!

04-21-2006, 01:56 AM

Sure, that wouldn't be too bad, but the subject is about the motorcycle... ;)

hell-angel

04-21-2006, 01:58 AM

And ignoring enemies (in case there might be fights on it) wouldn't be very good...

If an enemie is there you should kick his ass. ;)

Micki!

04-21-2006, 02:03 AM

Yeah, exactly, another case why you can't ignore them... :D
Especially if you would have an equal chance of getting all enemies in a map killed... (in case there would be a stats screen or something, like in Duke3D)
I wouldn't want to live through an event where it is harder to kill all remaining enemies becasue i'm moving too fast... :tinyted:

hell-angel

04-21-2006, 02:07 AM

Micki!

04-21-2006, 02:16 AM

hell-angel

04-21-2006, 05:07 AM

But then it has not to be too hard... As i said, you should have an equal chance in getting all enemies (well, more or less, but it shouldn't be occations, where you got almost all enemies, and then an event which is hard to get the last remaining one happens... That would be annoying imo)...

I don't agree, making some enemies hard to get/find makes gives it a bit more replayability IMO. :) But of course, this should not go for half of the enemies. ;)

Micki!

04-21-2006, 06:16 AM

hell-angel

04-21-2006, 08:01 AM

That's my point... I wouldn't mind if it was whole level like this... But if you've killed all enemies on the first half of the level, it would suck if you suddenly should get past the second half which is all different, and therfor missing some enemies when ending the level...

You could for instance forget to quicksave just before such an event (if there is no autosave on that location that is)
So if you by accident miss this last half part of enemies, you'd have to play the WHOLE level again, which is both the first, AND the last part of enemies because you missed them the first time...

But as we agree with, it wouldn't be too bad if it was a whole leel by itself, since you'd only have to replay that one part... I'd however, rather find, and use a Motorcycle in the middle of a level, rather than having this level being the "motorcycle part" which will only be available in this particular level...

Well, apart from the motor cycle D3D had the same. Most enemies can be found and killed, but for some you have to go through some extra trouble to find them. And if you then saw you missed some you still had to replay the level. That is how it is allways done and I wouldn't want it any other way. (of course, saving before the level end and then ability to then go back is a possibility, like in D3D )

ReadOnly

04-21-2006, 08:18 AM

What's the big deal in killing everyone? Of course it's better to kill all(and I check every room) but it won't be a tragedy otherwise. If I drive in a fast vehicle then I don't see a point in turning back to kill somebody if I missed him.

Micki!

04-21-2006, 08:23 AM

I didn't like the fact that enemies which are located on a secret location counts as a total... I still can't find most of the secrets in Duke3D... :(

I'd rather have the enemies placed throughout the level being the ones that count... And Enemies in secret areas will add a extra kill to the total count...
Say, you have to kill 36 enemies in the first level, and 4 of them being somewhere in a secret... You could get a total count just by killing 36 enemies... Which would be 36/36
But if you also kill the secret enemies, you get a 40/40... And if you miss 1 enemy from the regular level and killed all the "secret" enemies, the count would say 39/40...

And of course, if you discover a secret with 1 enemy in it, and you miss that enemy, but kill all the regular levels enemies and all other secret enemies (except this 1 enemy), you also get 39/40...

Man, i explained it all in every detail, i hope you understand my point... :D

[EDIT:]
What's the big deal in killing everyone? Of course it's better to kill all(and I check every room) but it won't be a tragedy otherwise. If I drive in a fast vehicle then I don't see a point in turning back to kill somebody if I missed him.

That's just a "stats screen" thing... If the stats screen ain't in, i wouldn't care at all...
But it's something that makes you want to replay a level becasue it tells you if you actually missedsomething, and therfor giving you a reason to try the level again, or several times, to overcome yourself...
Especially if you want to see how fast you can go through the level, or how fast you can do it while killing every enemy... It's like a challenge that you decide yourself if you wanna participate... :cool:

Of course it would be cool if you got some sort of reward for achieving something from the stats screen, but that would be unfair for players who simply aree unable to reach them i think... (Not sure about this last part though)

hell-angel

04-21-2006, 08:55 AM

I didn't like the fact that enemies which are located on a secret location counts as a total... I still can't find most of the secrets in Duke3D... :(

I'd rather have the enemies placed throughout the level being the ones that count... And Enemies in secret areas will add a extra kill to the total count...
Say, you have to kill 36 enemies in the first level, and 4 of them being somewhere in a secret... You could get a total count just by killing 36 enemies... Which would be 36/36
But if you also kill the secret enemies, you get a 40/40... And if you miss 1 enemy from the regular level and killed all the "secret" enemies, the count would say 39/40...

And of course, if you discover a secret with 1 enemy in it, and you miss that enemy, but kill all the regular levels enemies and all other secret enemies (except this 1 enemy), you also get 39/40...

Man, i explained it all in every detail, i hope you understand my point... :D

Yeah I got it. I just don't agree. ;) For me it adds to the replayability of the game.

But like you said, it is only a "problem" if the stats screen is in. :)

Can be partly fixed by putting enemies in secret locations on a secret enemies list. But not completely because you will also still have those enemies on the hard to reach places which are not secret, but also not required to pass though so you still miss them. ;)

Micki!

04-21-2006, 09:10 AM

ReadOnly

04-21-2006, 11:21 AM

I have to think of scripted sequences now... What if an enemy (or several) are running by some unreachable location, and you're not able to kill them...

I also don't like that (IF there is a stats screen that is) because logically, you should count that/those enemies too...

Nope. Logically only enemies you're able to kill must be in the stats screen.

Btw, I seriously doubt about these stats screen after every level since levels mostly will be, as I think, seamless continuation of each other. Only load screens. But if there'll be like several parts of the game(not episodes) logically divided then between them stats will be appropriate. Or, the better solution, stat screen will be in in-game menu. If you want - you'll compare count vs total.

Micki!

04-21-2006, 11:43 AM

Nope. Logically only enemies you're able to kill must be in the stats screen.

That's my point there... You see an enemy, and therby have in mind that he's in the level, but he's not...

I could understand if it was a boss...
But regular enemies should "really" be in the actual level if so...

Also, anyone could anytime use some sort of clipping cheat (since there won't be any cutscenes in DNF), and killing the enemy by going to that unreachable area...
That way, you would kill an enemy, which actually isn't part of the total enemy count in the stats screen, and that would result in 1 count too much...

hell-angel

04-24-2006, 05:17 AM

I have to think of scripted sequences now... What if an enemy (or several) are running by some unreachable location, and you're not able to kill them...

I also don't like that (IF there is a stats screen that is) because logically, you should count that/those enemies too...

But in general, i like such scripted sequences...
Maybe 3DR won't even add a stats screen becasue of all these possible "issues", but what do i know, this is just pure speculation... :o

*Ahem
We better talk about the Motor Cycle again...
I agree, but my final comment.
You can put the stats screen on a computer at the end of the level or in the beginning of the next level. So players can choose to see it. ;)

Micki!

04-24-2006, 10:09 AM

^^
Hah, that would be fun... With a Duke3D layout just for fun... :D

hell-angel

04-25-2006, 02:10 AM

^^
Hah, that would be fun... With a Duke3D layout just for fun... :D
I love the idea allready. :D

Micki!

04-25-2006, 08:32 AM

I love the idea allready. :D

Yeah, it's like someone just finished a game of Duke3D, and then the stats for DNF show up instead... Would be fun, but i somehow doubt it'll be in..

People could always mod it though...:o

hell-angel

04-26-2006, 02:19 AM

Yeah, it's like someone just finished a game of Duke3D, and then the stats for DNF show up instead... Would be fun, but i somehow doubt it'll be in..

People could always mod it though...:o

True. :)
Still, I would like to know if there are still stat screens. :)

LiquiD

12-09-2007, 08:15 PM

I just came up with an idea for DNF while driving vehicles. Something that I thought was annoying in Crysis but would have been an easy feature to include but its very Duke-ish so thats why I thought i'd put the idea here and hope to see it.

While driving a vehicle when someone shoots at your windscreen it shatters and u can't see shit. So I thought wouldn't it be cool you could press the kick button and duke kicks the screen out so u can see clearly again. Very cool and seems easy to introduce. Patent pending :O :)

What do u guys think? :)

Steve

12-09-2007, 08:24 PM

What do u guys think? :)

That's a great idea!

hark

12-09-2007, 08:53 PM

Seems a little trivial. Also, wouldn't that sort of weird, driving while kicking the windshield?

Steve

12-09-2007, 08:58 PM

Seems a little trivial. Also, wouldn't that sort of weird, driving while kicking the windshield?

If they want an action movie feel then I think it's a great idea. :)

ZuljinRaynor

12-09-2007, 09:53 PM

Sounds Chuck Norris-y.... I like it.

Airtraffic

12-09-2007, 10:13 PM

You can't kick but you punch out the broken windshields in Crysis!

Kalki

12-09-2007, 11:10 PM

In which case, all Duke has to do is hawk a loogie at it and it'll shatter.

Duke phlegm > nano-augmented punch. :p

Kicking sounds like a good idea. Nice touch.

Steve

12-09-2007, 11:25 PM

You can't kick but you punch out the broken windshields in Crysis!

Well there you go :D

trucedAnimal

12-10-2007, 02:14 AM

i prefer 3rd person view in vehicles. actually I never drove a car in crysis in 1st person view so I never had that problem.
And Duke drives a harley anyway!

Malgon

12-10-2007, 02:58 AM

That's still a cool idea, even if you can do something similar in Crysis. It's little additions such as these that help enforce the idea that a game is polished and well thought out imo.

Haravikk

12-10-2007, 04:20 AM

I think it makes sense, especially since everything is supposed to be through Duke's eyes so third-person isn't likely to be in the game.

It seemed to me from the 2001 video that the vehicles in that were driven for you, so you probably just got relegated to a shooting role. That I wouldn't mind if the driving is done reasonably well and with enough cool factor to support it. Duke games in my opinion aren't the kind where driving vehicles is an essential aspect.

peoplessi

12-10-2007, 07:31 AM

Kicking doesn't make sense in this case, I guess the thread poster hasn't driven a car. Fist would make sense.

KaiserSoze

12-10-2007, 07:37 AM

Danule

12-10-2007, 12:01 PM

its a pretty cool idea :) i hope little things like that are in the game.

LiquiD

12-10-2007, 05:19 PM

Yes Peoplessi I've never driven a car in my life because I've never punched a screen out. Well you can show me how its done. Being a martial artist I wouldn't think punching a screen out would be cool. Plus people might think you've never played a duke game as we all know the MIGHTY FOOT is awesome!

Alternatively I guess you can melee attack the screen with the butt of the gun which would be less work.

But honestly who wouldn't wanna see the mighty foot in action? I remember the bug where you could kick with both feet while running and shooting... Those were the days! ahhaha

Micki!

12-10-2007, 07:16 PM

I think his point is, that it's anatomally impossible to drive a vehicle, while sitting correctly on the drivers seat, while kicking the windshield... It would be so problematic moving his body in the right position to perform a kick, that it would be alot less stressfull, if he just used his hands...

Of course it would be cooler with a kick, but i can see this interfering with my field of view, overall control, and immersion factor from the overall game experience...

Count on there there is full body awareness, and you'll have to make the whole body animate without any serious clipping errors, and looking cool too...
I wouldn't want Duke to crawl up and away from his seat, because i want a solid overview of where i am driving Moving my whole body (and my head, thus my field of view) only makes me lose grip of the situation... And a foot that just grows up before me, and kicks out the windshield beyond the steering wheel, just seems off...

Seriously, a hit with his weapon would be so much more effective, less time consuming, and not block your field of vision (for long) either...

I agree that a kick is the coolest thing ever though, but when i watch an Action movie (i believe it's fair to cmpare it with that) i can't see a main character there, kicking the windshield, even if that looks so much cooler...

Malgon

12-12-2007, 03:14 AM

^Good point, especially with the FBA animations to go with it. Still I want it though. :D

Kalki

12-12-2007, 05:35 AM

Well it is possible to push up from the seat and bring your leg around to kick the windshield out. As you wouldn't be driving at the time(hands off wheel), the vehicle would move on its own inertia for the duration of the kick. Basically if it's a quick three-second animation and if your view is locked on a track like during an interaction, I'd say it's doable.

Micki!

12-12-2007, 09:25 AM

I don't liked locked controls though...:tinyted:
I didn't even like that with the shrinker in Duke 3D... as much as i loved that weapon (i still do) i absolutely hated that my controls were locked once i approached the victim i shot at... i get this cool effective squishing move, and funny animation where i crush my enemy... But what about those around me, shooting at me while performing this move..!?

Exactly the same case here, except, you'd only have to do it once... Who knows if you crash during some turn in those 3 seconds, and what if you could have avoided a rocket..?!
Smart people would kick it away/break it before even driving at all of course, but some people might not do this... Which would suck, if it's such an easy thing to avoid...
But, it probably IS do-able :o it just will be sorta annoying i guess...

I wonder if there'll be any vehicles at all, or if that's gonna be like "vehicle missions" in DNF...

Kalki

12-12-2007, 10:14 AM

Well as you would be electing to quick-kick (~) to perform the move, you have to decide whether it's worth the effort given the situation you're in. I think the risk factor in moves like that can be fun, as long as we have the choice to go for it or not. I'm a big fan of Duke performing short fatalities for ego benefits, even in combat.

Keeping a vehicle's windshield intact for a time may help absorb some of the weapons fire that would otherwise hurt you. So you either wait for the windshield to be completely obliterated by the enemy or kick it out yourself.

I think vehicle missions like HL2 would be great with levels designed for long range vehicle use. The Harley can have smaller urban levels for bike stunts (E3 2001 trailer). Gus' mule with its good hearing and better sense of smell could help detect threats early, but given its speed riding doesn't have to be as necessary as with the other vehicles.