You're probably tired of Jack Thompson, but...

[someguy2435]

..... (http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5883)

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Jack Thompson will give $10,000 to charity if any videogame company makes and releases a game based on a scenario he created.
Miami, Florida Attorney Jack Thompson, a long-time outspoken critic of violent and sexually explicit videogames, has done something totally unexpected. Thompson today actually proposed a violent videogame, and will pay $10,000 to the favorite charity of Paul Eibeler (the Chairman of Take-Two Interactive) if any videogame company will "create, manufacture, distribute, and sell a video game in 2006" based on a scenario he created.

Thompson's proposal is titled A Modest Video Game Proposal and has been sent to members of the press and apparantly to Douglas Lowenstein, President of the ESA.

Here's Thompson's proposal (italics are his, not ours):

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." The Golden Rule

This writer has been saying for seven years that violent video games can be "murder simulators" that incite as well as train some obsessive teen players to be violent.

I've been on 60 Minutes and in Reader's Digest this year explaining how an Alabama teen, with no criminal record, shot two policemen and a dispatcher in their heads and fled in a police car--a scenario he rehearsed for hundreds of hours on Take-Two/Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto video games.

I have sat with boys in jail cells, their lives over because of murder convictions, after they, with no history of violence, have killed innocents while in a dreamlike state. Said one cop who investigated such a murder in Grand Rapids, Michigan: "The killing was like an extension of the game."

The video game industry, through its lawyers, its spokesmen, and its head lobbyist, Doug Lowenstein, the president of the Entertainment Software Association, all say it is utter nonsense to suggest that what is dumped into a kid's head hour after hour, day after day, year after year, could possibly have behavioral consequences. Cigarette ads can persuade kids to smoke, but interactive simulators in which these same kids punch, hack, bludgeon, and maim affect not a wit their attitudes and behaviors, notwithstanding the findings of the American Psychological Association, published in August 2005.

The video game industry says Sticks and stones can break my bones, but games can never hurt me. Fine. I have a modest proposal for the video game industry. I'll write a check for $10,000 to the favorite charity of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc's chairman, Paul Eibeler - a man Bernard Goldberg ranks as #43 in his book 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America - if any video game company will create, manufacture, distribute, and sell a video game in 2006 like the following:

Osaki Kim is the father of a high school boy beaten to death with a baseball bat by a 14-year-old gamer. The killer obsessively played a violent video game in which one of the favored ways of killing is with a bat. The opening scene, before the interactive game play begins, is the Los Angeles courtroom in which the killer is sentenced "only" to life in prison after the judge and the jury have heard experts explain the connection between the game and the murder.

Osaki Kim (O.K.) exits the courtroom swearing revenge upon the video game industry whom he is convinced contributed to his son's murder. "Vengeance is mine, I will repay" he says. And boy, is O.K. not kidding.

O.K. is provided in his virtual reality playpen a panoply of weapons: machetes, Uzis, revolvers, shotguns, sniper rifles, Molotov cocktails, you name it. Even baseball bats. Especially baseball bats.

O.K. first hops a plane from LAX to New York to reach the Long Island home of the CEO of the company (Take This) that made the murder simulator on which his son's killer trained. O.K. gets "justice" by taking out this female CEO, whose name is Paula Eibel, along with her husband and kids. "An eye for an eye," says O.K., as he urinates onto the severed brain stems of the Eibel family victims, just as you do on the decapitated cops in the real video game Postal2.

O.K. then works his way, methodically back to LA by car, but on his way makes a stop at the Philadelphia law firm of Blank, Stare and goes floor by floor to wipe out the lawyers who protect Take This in its wrongful death law suits. "So sue me" O.K. spits, with singer Jackson Brown's 1980's hit Lawyers in Love blaring.

With the FBI now after him, O.K. keeps moving westward, shooting up high-tech video arcades called GameWerks. "Game over," O.K. laughs.

Of course, O.K. makes the obligatory runs to virtual versions of brick and mortar retailers Best Buy, Circuit City, Target, and Wal-Mart to steal supplies and bludgeon store managers and cash register clerks. "You should have checked kids' IDs!"

O.K. pushes on to Los Angeles. He must get there by May 10, 2006. That is the beginning of "E3" -- the Electronic Entertainment Expo -- the Super Bowl of the video game industry. O.K. must get to E3 to massacre all the video game industry execs with one final, monstrously delicious rampage.

How about it, video game industry? I've got the check and you've got the tech. It's all a fantasy, right? No harm can come from such a game, right? Go ahead, video game moguls. Target yourselves as you target others. I dare you.

Jack Thompson is a Miami lawyer who has for 18 years been involved in efforts to stop the marketing of adult entertainment to minors.

It is unlikely that Thompson's proposal will actually be turned into a game, as most videogame companies do not simply accept proposals from individuals. We'll keep you updated, however, as it is very likely that there will be some sort of response to Thompson's proposal from members of the videogame industry.

[Shlubalubs]

I bet when jack was a young boy, he played on an arcade machine wich kicked his ass. what a wacko

[Phait]

I think it's amusing, not because "hey look Crazy Jack Thompson!" but because he has a point.

[Shlubalubs]

Point? he aint attacking the head of the snake, it aint the video games companys fault if some under age phsyco lays their hands on a game then goes on an insane massacre of some sorts
But an interesting challenge none the less...

[Rider]

My Forecast:

No-one will release the game, or even glimpse at it
although maybe EA might see a good deal in it...

[X-Vector]

His timeframe is off, 14 months really isn't enough to build a decent game from the ground up these days.

[Zaarin]

If somebody should get his head checked, it's Mr. Jack "Full of shit" Thompson, 'cos that guy has serious problems. He seems to take his "crusade" against gaming industry way too personal and his target is wrong: he should haunt parents who doesn't raise their children properly, but no sir! My guess is that Mr. Thompson is a lousy parent, who dosn't give a shit what his children does and thinks it's the societys problem to deal with them, not his.

"Protect our children from their idiot parents" should be the issue, not mockin the gaming industry.

If I only had the money to make that damn game...

[Phait]

Zaarin said:
If I only had the money to make that damn game...



Open-source stand-alone game with GPL'd source (Q3 anyone?)

[IgWannA]

i think someone needs to explain to jack thompson that video games cost considerably more than $10,000 to make http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif more like $10,000,000 minimum. it sounds like a crap game anyway - maybe 3 hours gameplay? his design is just pretty shoddy.

and somehow i really very much doubt that if such a game was ever made it would actually inspire people to kill those certain people he obviously wants dead. i mean, there's a bit in san andreas where you kill will smith (well obviously they don't call him will smith but he looks just like him) - but as far as i know he's still alive.

jack thompson please just sit the ***** down!

[Thriller]

phait said:
I think it's amusing, not because "hey look Crazy Jack Thompson!" but because he has a point.

Of course he has a point, but he is so far beyond the point that its hard if not impossible to take him seriously.

[Kalki]

Doesn't sound feasible as a full game but as a mod...

We could call it "Hot Osaki"

Sounds boring and pointless without being given the choices. Include soccer moms and pontificating lawyers as alternatives to the greedy game publishers and see who the gamer chooses to kill. On second thoughts, include netstats so the results can be posted online.

[JackpotDen]

http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php?t=archives&date=last

The man sodomizes giraffes! We cannot let his game be made!

[Logic Bomb]

Satire in videogames... that's an odd approach.

- LB

[Karthik]

JackpotDen said:
http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php?t=archives&date=last

The man sodomizes giraffes! We cannot let his game be made!


Same old **** different era. It's just like how people complained TV was the invented by the devil.

[Orochi Avlis]

Karthik said:

JackpotDen said:
http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php?t=archives&date=last

The man sodomizes giraffes! We cannot let his game be made!


Same old **** different era. It's just like how people complained TV was the invented by the devil.


And porn, and rock and roll, and the internet.

Somebody should make this game, and make it the most violent one ever just so that he can shut the f*ck up.

It should have a secret bonus level that let's toture Jack. He'd be tied up to a chair and some of the instruments we could use are:

A Whip
Razorblades
Broken Glass
Baseball Bat
and the Truth

[Mblackwell]

Wow, I've heard ideas for some shitty games, but that takes the cake.

[Opus131]

Shlubalubs said:
I bet when jack was a young boy, he played on an arcade machine wich kicked his ass. what a wacko



http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-08-08

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[Kristian Joensen]

Mblackwell said:
Wow, I've heard ideas for some shitty games, but that takes the cake.



Someone such make this game just for the heck of it(and ofcourse the 10000$) They could use he Quake 3 engine, also Jack didn't say anything about quality, cost or length ?

How about a VERY short VERY bad game ?

Perhaps 30 minutes - 1 hour of gameplay ?

[Logic Bomb]

After actually reading that game idea it sounds like he came up with it in about 5 minutes. I could write a better game based in the world of satire if i sat down for 2 hours and thought about it...

The fact that he was trying to duplicate "A modest Proposal" (which i hope to god most of you were tought in school) to seem witty is just rediculous expecially since it's littered with garbage a 12 year old could write better...

- LB

[Logic Bomb]

http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/20051012.jpg

AWSOME.

- LB

[Zaarin]

^^ Right on! Now let's all spam Jackie-boy's email with that. On second thought, let's not, 'cos he would sue us.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

I wonder if Jack Thompson has made any more german bukake video's lately?

[Dave-ros]

I read Jack Thompson's address on a letter on another website, and found it in Google Earth... hmm, looks like the perfect setting for a murder simulator... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

(N.B. I wonder how long it'll be before this gets taken down by the mods because Jack's angry we know where he lives!)

[Dr. Kill]

I don't know if this if fake or real (it's lame either way), but here's Jack's web site, with info on how to contact him: stopkill.com (http://www.stopkill.com/)

This is from the page, and mentions one of my all time favorite games, Manhunt http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif I think I'll go play it now, but anyway, get a load of this shit:


One current horrific example is a video game made available by Sony and Take-Two Interactive called Manhunt. This game allows you to train yourself to kill people by placing plastic bags over their heads while you watch them struggle while suffocating.



"Train you to kill people with plastic bags"... lol! Anyone with brains knows that. No "training" required. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif


You may be a parent whose child is addicted to video games. You may know someone harmed by someone addicted to violent entertainment who copycatted that violence. The victim, whoever it is, needs help. Jack Thompson will assist in getting that person help. Please fee free to use the below contact information.



How come when someone likes videogames it's always and "addiction", but when it's movies or tv, it's entertainment?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Here's a classic: "If you have kids, have them start shooting hoops instead of humans." What a loser! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

btw, read the article just now... JT smokes lots and lots of Krack!!! God damn! What a crazy bastard!

[Logic Bomb]

Hockey trains people that fights are not only okay but encouraged and rooted for.

Interest in government affairs teaches fraud and lies.

Even practicing law shows that you can get away with murder as long as you can get off on a technicality if evidence was collected wrong or whatever.

Seriously, theres nothing you can't think of that has negative undertones. Jack's an idiot.

- LB

[Kristian Joensen]

Someone should make a game MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more violent than ANY game EVER released in the history of gaming and I am talking MUCH MUCH MUCH more violent than the top 10 combined and have it take place in his neighbourhood with him as the enemy.

[Dr. Kill]

Kristian Joensen said:
Someone should make a game MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more violent than ANY game EVER released in the history of gaming and I am talking MUCH MUCH MUCH more violent than the top 10 combined and have it take place in his neighbourhood with him as the enemy.



I could design such a game!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Put it this way, Manhunt, State of Emergency, all 6 GTAs, and Soldier of Fortune 2 are not violent enough for me. I need more detail in the blood and gore. More torture! More executions. Manhunt would look like a kid's show in comparison! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mongorian]

Dr. Kill said:
I need more detail in the blood and gore. More torture! More executions.



Why? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Simon Charles]

This has to be a fake.

[Logic Bomb]

Mongorian said:

Dr. Kill said:
I need more detail in the blood and gore. More torture! More executions.



Why? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif



For the same reason people like Ninja Scroll, because people are sadistic and like seeing mindless violence for some reason.

Personally as long as a game is fun i don't care about how i can't see brain particles after a headshot. Although quotes like his fuel soccer moms and we end up where we are now http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

- LB

[Dr. Kill]

Mongorian said:

Dr. Kill said:
I need more detail in the blood and gore. More torture! More executions.



Why? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif



Why not?! I'm f***ing sadistic! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I can't wait til next gen games... Rockstar is going to make pure gold on next gen. Manhunt 2, please!

Current gen still has some nice bloody games coming too. The Warriors and Blitz the Leage (finally, a football game with all the blood and dirty hits that I've wanted for years!) look kick ass!

LB, I wouldn't worry about soccer mom's hating my quotes. They would shit if they saw the Blood and Gore pack! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Cerberus_e]

You're probably tired of Jack Thompson, but...




I'm not! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
bring the news on! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Dr. Kill said:

Kristian Joensen said:
Someone should make a game MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more violent than ANY game EVER released in the history of gaming and I am talking MUCH MUCH MUCH more violent than the top 10 combined and have it take place in his neighbourhood with him as the enemy.



I could design such a game!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Put it this way, Manhunt, State of Emergency, all 6 GTAs, and Soldier of Fortune 2 are not violent enough for me. I need more detail in the blood and gore. More torture! More executions. Manhunt would look like a kid's show in comparison! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



suppose you were a famous individual, and everyone knowing you like everyone knows who michael jackson is.
would you dare to create your violent game where the main goal is to kill YOU in one of the tortorous ways you have in mind? yes, modelled after you, and your name pasted on it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I wouldn't.
I just wouldn't feel easy.
of course I would never make a game where the point is "to kill someone", because that would be a very weak storyline and atmosphere http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif but let's ignore that.
suppose that I make a game in the future, none of my models or names would be modelled/named after people from real life.
of course for a president that gives you briefings etc it's OK, but not if the objective is to kill the person.
it's not that this article brainwashed me, I would never have done that anyway, not even with an NPC modelled after jack thompson.
violence would be fully accepted in my game of course, but only on models that represent no one from real life.
not mainly out of fear that someone would actually do something to that person in real life, just out of respect.

besides, something like this has already been done.
aren't the enemies in rise of the triad scanned pictures of 3DR employees at that time? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Dr. Kill]

Gary Coleman said it best: "Go ahead. Kill me. It's only a game!"

[Mblackwell]

http://www.penny-arcade.com/news.php?date=2005-10-12#2826

[avatar_58]

Mblackwell said:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/news.php?date=2005-10-12#2826



If that isn't fake then this isn't a man....he's a spoiled brat who is trying to make everyone's life miserable.

[Orochi Avlis]

My email sig had my phone number in it. Jack actually just called and screamed at me for a couple minutes. He said if I email him again I will “regret it”. What a violent man.


What a freakin douchebag.
He talks loud to make him sound smart and with reason.

Looks like this isn't the first time he goes apenuts at somebody. Scott from VG Cats comes to mind.

[Mblackwell]

avatar_58 said:

Mblackwell said:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/news.php?date=2005-10-12#2826



If that isn't fake then this isn't a man....he's a spoiled brat who is trying to make everyone's life miserable.



I believe he's sent penny arcade threatening e-mails in the past. Too lazy too look it up though.

Anyways, I doubt it's fake.

[Burfid]

Couldn't you kill the Running With Scissors employees in Postal 2? And none of them were killed by kids who played the game in real life.

Jack Thompson is hilarious and it would be pretty darn funny if someone took him up on his offer and made the game, and then when the makers don't get gunned down by someone Jack Thompson will look like more of a fool because his plan failed...or he'll gun them down and try and claim the game made him do it in an attempt to proove he was right, he just might be that crazy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Dr. Kill]

Burfid said:
Jack Thompson is hilarious and it would be pretty darn funny if someone took him up on his offer and made the game, and then when the makers don't get gunned down by someone Jack Thompson will look like more of a fool because his plan failed...or he'll gun them down and try and claim the game made him do it in an attempt to proove he was right, he just might be that crazy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Haha... I wouldn't doubt it. He is a f***ing nut! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nessus]

I thought this was pretty funny. You gotta admit it's a nice zing that he's asking game companies to put themselves up to being murdered just like they do to cops. I dont agree with him on most things but I got a kick out of this, if it's true that is.

[Phait]

Dr. Kill said:
Here's a classic: "If you have kids, have them start shooting hoops instead of humans." What a loser! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



So kids with no developed sense of right & wrong and reality, should be playing violent video games?

I think not.

[DudeMiester]

I think Jack was being sarcastic. Someone should tell him sarcasm doesn't work on the internet.

[avatar_58]

DudeMiester said:
I think Jack was being sarcastic. Someone should tell him sarcasm doesn't work on the internet.



Not without smilies anyway... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

Burfid said:
Couldn't you kill the Running With Scissors employees in Postal 2? And none of them were killed by kids who played the game in real life.



Somebody should mail him the game and ask for the 10 000. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Neptune]

You know whats funny?

Given some more thought, this would actually be friggen hilarious, and, possibly, one of the best video games ever.

Get, like, John Romero on it. I could see it all now:

Butch (i hated that name O.K. so i renamed him Butch) attacks E3. He shows up, possibly in full 'Punisher' attire. It's sunny and bright outside. he walks up to the front door, and immediatly blows away a little kid who's playing Crash bandicoot on his DS. See, he's so far gone that he can no longer tell the difference between 'safe' games and 'evil' games. So he shoots the child right between the eyes. Suddenly the mother begins screaming at the top of her lungs, an d the father charges Butch. Butch immediatly shoots the father down. Perhaps blowing out his knee caps, as the father screams in pain and crawls toward the child. He is then shot dead. butch remarks that the 'virus of video games has spread to him, too'. He then enters E3.

CUE METAL GEAR SOLID BOSS MUSIC!

Butch pulls out his machine gun and runs through the (very well done, and nearly photo realistic E3) killing execs and on lookers in grissly ways. The execs begin to fight back. But since all they have are their bare fists they can simply only get in small hits. But Butch is in a race against time. He's heard about a new GTA-inspired game that will 'infect' the world. He rushes through E3 looking for this gamers booth.

Outside his followers (yes, he has actually created a cult, unintentionaly made up of bible thumpers and politicians) get into a massive riot with the game lovers. Since the cult (We'll call them Fathers Under Covert Kombat) brought guns and stuff they begin to merciclessly destroy the gamers, slaughtering both gamers and on lookers alike. We see unbelievable amounts of voilence as blood runs through the streets.

Back inside E3 Butch finds the booth and mows the execs over. we see the mad look in his face, the crazed smile. Suddenly, we hear a gun shot. It shoots Butch right in the shoulder (instantly taking 1/4 health) Butch turns around to see....

Kevin! Kevin is his arch nemisis through out the game. Sorta like venom to Spiderman. He is a pro-violent video gamer. Armed to the teeth with guns and ammo he got from his 'uincaring and unloving father' the two rush at each other. This si the final battle.

The two fight all around E3 using booths as cover. Butch even uses booth babes as cover. he grabs them by the shoulders as they are rideled with bullets. Kevin screams out in anger as he shoots his own.Eventually Butch gets the upper hand and chases Kevin to the roof.

In the true final battle they have a fight on the crumbling building E3 takes place on, with riot as far as the eye can see on the ground. A truly spectacular sight. A fire rages on in the crowd, killing hundreds, as the two square off on the roof. Eventually a cut scene occurs where one of the banners promoting E3 comes loose and lands on the roof. In a truly awe inspiring moment the two combatents stare each other down as the E3 flag floats past. Then they run at each other. With nearly 3/4 of kevin's health gone, Butch thinks he has the upper hand. Suddenly Kevin begins to laugh. He has set a bomb in E3. If he couldn't play that game, then no one could. He presses the trigger and the building's roof begins to crumble. Butch drops his gun down into the bowls of E3.

It's a hand to hand fight on top of the crumbling E3. You can't stay in one spot to long, or it will fall down. So the two fighters duke it out. Finally, after an insanly hard match, butch prevails.

Kevin begins to fall into one of the wholes, but grabs on to the side. He screams for help. Butch smiles and, in true Resident Evil fashion, has that last one liner.

"Play this!"

He steps on kevin's hand, as the enemy plumbits down into E3, landing on the booth for that GTA game. he is immediatly impaled by the tip of the booth. his guts explode onto his chest, with one last sputter, kevin dies.

Butch looks down at his defeated foe. he then looks up at the sky, his mission over. he shuts his eyes, and we hear him pray to Jesus.

Suddenly, his forehead explodes. A bullet hole appears on his temple and he flops over. He stares off into the distance, looking at the crumbling E3.

Far away we see a sharp shooter. Another man stands over him and pats him on the shoulder. The sharp shooter sighs.

"It looks like all that VR simulation came in handy."

The other man looks on:

"yes. It's nice to see a system that works."

We see the other man walk off. As he does he flips open a phone. In true government conspiracy fashion he speaks into it:

"Report to CAPCOM. The trial version was a success. tell them we are intereste din buy more of their army Sims."

SLAM CUT TO CREDITS!!!

Sure it needs (alot) of work, but I could totally see this.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Kalki]

One thing about Jack (and that ctrl+alt+del comic gets it) is that he's not really attacking the game developers, he's attacking us, the gamers. We're the supposed retards who will do as we've been "programmed" to do.

[Zaarin]

Dr. Kill said:
I need more detail in the blood and gore. More torture! More executions.



Have you played the Punisher? You can shove criminals in piranha pool, bear trap, furnance...etc.
Cool game.

[Dr. Kill]

Yes, I've played it. Only a demo. Actually I've played 2 versions of the demo, the wussy, edited Official Playstation mag version ( LAME! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif ), and an unedited one I got from EBGames (I think). The unedited one was kick ass! Might have to buy it one day (too many games coming out now). Also, the game was made by THQ and Volition, the guys that made Red Faction http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif . I can't wait til their new XBox 360 game, Saint's Row. It looks great, imo.

[0marTheZealot]

Neptune said:
You know whats funny?

Given some more thought, this would actually be friggen hilarious, and, possibly, one of the best video games ever.

Get, like, John Romero on it. I could see it all now:

Butch (i hated that name O.K. so i renamed him Butch) attacks E3. He shows up, possibly in full 'Punisher' attire. It's sunny and bright outside. he walks up to the front door, and immediatly blows away a little kid who's playing Crash bandicoot on his DS. See, he's so far gone that he can no longer tell the difference between 'safe' games and 'evil' games. So he shoots the child right between the eyes. Suddenly the mother begins screaming at the top of her lungs, an d the father charges Butch. Butch immediatly shoots the father down. Perhaps blowing out his knee caps, as the father screams in pain and crawls toward the child. He is then shot dead. butch remarks that the 'virus of video games has spread to him, too'. He then enters E3.

CUE METAL GEAR SOLID BOSS MUSIC!

Butch pulls out his machine gun and runs through the (very well done, and nearly photo realistic E3) killing execs and on lookers in grissly ways. The execs begin to fight back. But since all they have are their bare fists they can simply only get in small hits. But Butch is in a race against time. He's heard about a new GTA-inspired game that will 'infect' the world. He rushes through E3 looking for this gamers booth.

Outside his followers (yes, he has actually created a cult, unintentionaly made up of bible thumpers and politicians) get into a massive riot with the game lovers. Since the cult (We'll call them Fathers Under Covert Kombat) brought guns and stuff they begin to merciclessly destroy the gamers, slaughtering both gamers and on lookers alike. We see unbelievable amounts of voilence as blood runs through the streets.

Back inside E3 Butch finds the booth and mows the execs over. we see the mad look in his face, the crazed smile. Suddenly, we hear a gun shot. It shoots Butch right in the shoulder (instantly taking 1/4 health) Butch turns around to see....

Kevin! Kevin is his arch nemisis through out the game. Sorta like venom to Spiderman. He is a pro-violent video gamer. Armed to the teeth with guns and ammo he got from his 'uincaring and unloving father' the two rush at each other. This si the final battle.

The two fight all around E3 using booths as cover. Butch even uses booth babes as cover. he grabs them by the shoulders as they are rideled with bullets. Kevin screams out in anger as he shoots his own.Eventually Butch gets the upper hand and chases Kevin to the roof.

In the true final battle they have a fight on the crumbling building E3 takes place on, with riot as far as the eye can see on the ground. A truly spectacular sight. A fire rages on in the crowd, killing hundreds, as the two square off on the roof. Eventually a cut scene occurs where one of the banners promoting E3 comes loose and lands on the roof. In a truly awe inspiring moment the two combatents stare each other down as the E3 flag floats past. Then they run at each other. With nearly 3/4 of kevin's health gone, Butch thinks he has the upper hand. Suddenly Kevin begins to laugh. He has set a bomb in E3. If he couldn't play that game, then no one could. He presses the trigger and the building's roof begins to crumble. Butch drops his gun down into the bowls of E3.

It's a hand to hand fight on top of the crumbling E3. You can't stay in one spot to long, or it will fall down. So the two fighters duke it out. Finally, after an insanly hard match, butch prevails.

Kevin begins to fall into one of the wholes, but grabs on to the side. He screams for help. Butch smiles and, in true Resident Evil fashion, has that last one liner.

"Play this!"

He steps on kevin's hand, as the enemy plumbits down into E3, landing on the booth for that GTA game. he is immediatly impaled by the tip of the booth. his guts explode onto his chest, with one last sputter, kevin dies.

Butch looks down at his defeated foe. he then looks up at the sky, his mission over. he shuts his eyes, and we hear him pray to Jesus.

Suddenly, his forehead explodes. A bullet hole appears on his temple and he flops over. He stares off into the distance, looking at the crumbling E3.

Far away we see a sharp shooter. Another man stands over him and pats him on the shoulder. The sharp shooter sighs.

"It looks like all that VR simulation came in handy."

The other man looks on:

"yes. It's nice to see a system that works."

We see the other man walk off. As he does he flips open a phone. In true government conspiracy fashion he speaks into it:

"Report to CAPCOM. The trial version was a success. tell them we are intereste din buy more of their army Sims."

SLAM CUT TO CREDITS!!!

Sure it needs (alot) of work, but I could totally see this.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



you forgot the slow motion. every game needs slow motion at some point

[Odin]

Orochi Avlis said:

My email sig had my phone number in it. Jack actually just called and screamed at me for a couple minutes. He said if I email him again I will “regret it”. What a violent man.


What a freakin douchebag.
He talks loud to make him sound smart and with reason.

Looks like this isn't the first time he goes apenuts at somebody. Scott from VG Cats comes to mind.



What does that have to do with anything? Jack's friends with Gabe and vice-versa. What is shown here is nothing more than a friendly spar that happens. Get over it.

[Orochi Avlis]

Odin said:

Orochi Avlis said:

My email sig had my phone number in it. Jack actually just called and screamed at me for a couple minutes. He said if I email him again I will “regret it”. What a violent man.


What a freakin douchebag.
He talks loud to make him sound smart and with reason.

Looks like this isn't the first time he goes apenuts at somebody. Scott from VG Cats comes to mind.



What does that have to do with anything? Jack's friends with Gabe and vice-versa. What is shown here is nothing more than a friendly spar that happens. Get over it.


What makes you think I was actually on it? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I was just saying that the guy is a douchebag.
Have you even read Jack's emails to Scott R. from VG Cats?

When he gets frusterated during an argument he can't win, he results to insults, just leaves or hangs up, or threatens the person with a lawsuit.
I don't like to be catgorized as an "idiot" or "pinhead" (by his definition) because I play violent games.

And what was that about Jack and Gabe being friends?

[avatar_58]

Odin said:
What does that have to do with anything? Jack's friends with Gabe and vice-versa. What is shown here is nothing more than a friendly spar that happens. Get over it.



No....Jack is nobody's friend. In fact he has built his rep as being our enemy.

[Dr. Kill]

yeah, that's true.

[Paroxysm]

Odin said:

What does that have to do with anything? Jack's friends with Gabe and vice-versa. What is shown here is nothing more than a friendly spar that happens. Get over it.



You're batshit insane

[Neptune]

you forgot the slow motion. every game needs slow motion at some point




Oh yeah! How could I forget slow motion??!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Ok, we'll toss in some uber-cool slow motion shot when Butch starts blowing up E3. yeah. That'd work.


THEN! Then, we could have a movie based off the game directed by Uwe Boll!!! YAY!

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Evil Angel]

Jack Thompson is a donkey******.

[Odin]

Orochi Avlis said:

Odin said:

Orochi Avlis said:

My email sig had my phone number in it. Jack actually just called and screamed at me for a couple minutes. He said if I email him again I will “regret it”. What a violent man.


What a freakin douchebag.
He talks loud to make him sound smart and with reason.

Looks like this isn't the first time he goes apenuts at somebody. Scott from VG Cats comes to mind.



What does that have to do with anything? Jack's friends with Gabe and vice-versa. What is shown here is nothing more than a friendly spar that happens. Get over it.


What makes you think I was actually on it? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I was just saying that the guy is a douchebag.
Have you even read Jack's emails to Scott R. from VG Cats?

When he gets frusterated during an argument he can't win, he results to insults, just leaves or hangs up, or threatens the person with a lawsuit.
I don't like to be catgorized as an "idiot" or "pinhead" (by his definition) because I play violent games.

And what was that about Jack and Gabe being friends?



Oh shit! Brain fart. I mixed up Tycho and Jack's names for some very odd reason. Sorry about that.

[someguy2435]

Read Tycho's newsposts (both of them) and the new Penny Arcade. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Odin]

someguy2435 said:
Read Tycho's newsposts (both of them) and the new Penny Arcade. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Yeah, those are great. Especially the link to the article.

[Parkar]

Some more Jack Tomphson news.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=12259

[Orochi Avlis]

Odin said:
Oh shit! Brain fart. I mixed up Tycho and Jack's names for some very odd reason. Sorry about that.


It's cool.


Conversation one is where Jack Thompson asks Gabe if Gabe has ever donated to charity. Of course, we have - it's usually a couple Gameboys a year for Child's Play, but the "take" from the distributed gamer metamind is over five hundred thousand dollars in two years. This answer did not satisfy him. He suggested that if Gabe mailed him again, he would be sued so fast that his head would "spin," and that he, Jack Thompson, had given more to charity that Gabe could even imagine. Gabe isn't very good at math, so he may have a point. I'm told that humbers larger than ten give him a headache. What's more, his donations were more valuable, because he wasn't some flush-with-cash game company. Which I guess is relevant to us, because... Well, I guess it's not relevant.


This guy thinks highly of himself.
Of course the purpose of charity is to give the most valuable donations then shove it into people's faces.

[Krid]

Know what? I think that somebody needs to make this game. It doesn't have to be wonderful, it doesn't have to be advanced, it just needs to meet his criteria.

Heck, many of the resources are already ready for those willing to put them together:
The Q3 engine is available under the GPL so there wouldn't be any licensing fee for it's use. Givin the short time available for development and the poor projected sales, the GPL would probably be of benefit since 3rd parties could write code for patches and just have a simple peer-review system. (As well as a warning saying "This patch is not a product of [Developer], who is not in any way responsible for it.")
Sound effects are available for free in many places online, even for commercial products.
I'm sure that the people working on the HRPs would gladly consent for their work to be used this way, so much of the content would already be done in a decent quality (Sans bump-maps).
That basically leaves some minor code changes (Weapons, level transitions, etc...), maps (Probably the most intensive work of the entire project), and specific models. I'm sure that many third parties would let thier models be used, and maybe even some Take Two employees would be willing to provide models based on themselves.

Of course, it would be a quagmire of legal issues if somebody kept any revinue from the sales (Aside from rembursement for distribution), so it would probably be best if it went to one of more charities - such as the EFF or ACLU (Both of which are stalwart defenders of free speech and the games industry - Have them start "The Jack Thompson fund for the protection of objectionable speech" with the money), or Child's Play.

Now, here's the part that is the REAL killer: Credit as much of the the game as is legally reasonable to Jack Thompson.
Co-creator: Jack Thompson
Original story by: Jack Thompson
Written and directed by: Jack Thompson
Commissioned by: Jack Thompson
Creation Funded by: Jack Thompson

And, of course, a BIG label on the front saying "Content approved by Jack Thompson".

I think 3DR should consider doing it. If not as an official on-the-clock thing, then as an on-break getaway from other projects - since it's not being made for profit, it doesn't need to have meticulous detail or a serious tone and could be used as an escape from serious work, and as a breeding ground for in-jokes, cameos, gags, and other easter-eggs.

Actually, come to think of it, the cost of manufacture and distribution are probably tax-deductable if the proceedes go to a non-profit charity...

[Orochi Avlis]

Have you guys noticed that old Jackie boy here is quick to yell at people and call them name, but will sue anybody for harassment if they don't agree with him.

[Krid]

That's because it's his buisness model.

He convinces people to sue companies. If he ever wins, he gets a cut of the take. If he loses, he can use that to further the image of a fat-cat game industry by claiming that they were hiding behind their lawyer army and don't give a damn about children - He also gets paid by the people he talks into suing.

People tend to think that the most violent, angry, and loud jerk is correct, and he knows that if he quieted down and argued from a strictly rational and reasonable position, he would be so utterly embarassed that he wouldn't be able to steal people's money. He threatens harrassment lawsuits because it lets him say that he cowed people into submission with "the facts", and it keeps him from having to answer questions that could become evidence against him.

Yep, that's right, he's a bastard that makes his living by going around and taking advantage of distraught and grieving families. He's a leech on society, and the posterboy of the bad reputation that lawyers get.

Most of the reason I want to use his challange to stain his reputation is because he's the worst kind of subhuman bottom-feeding scum. I want to see his buisness model collapse, I want him to no longer be able to hurt people.

[Shaam]

http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2002-11-05

http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/20021105.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[someguy2435]

lol because webcomics reflect reality

[Dr. Kill]

Parkar said:
Some more Jack Tomphson news.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=12259



Boy, Jack sure is an a**hole. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Opus131]

someguy2435 said:
lol because webcomics reflect reality



Because that was the point of the comic...

[Krid]

Dr. Kill said:

Parkar said:
Some more Jack Tomphson news.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=12259



Boy, Jack sure is an a**hole. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif



Hence the reason somebody needs to take him up on his offer just to stain his reputation.

Besides, letting 'yourself' get shot in a game has a powerful symbolic message - it says that you believe so strongly that your product isn't harmful that you would stake your own life on it, and taking that stance undermines his claim that game developers 'knowingly sell a dangerous product'.

Besides, I think it would be a kick to have boss battles where you take-on each studio's stars before you can kill the corporate heads. Heh... "To win the game you must kill me, John Romero. ... Also, a space marine."

[Paroxysm]

Krid said:

Dr. Kill said:

Parkar said:
Some more Jack Tomphson news.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=12259



Boy, Jack sure is an a**hole. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif



Hence the reason somebody needs to take him up on his offer just to stain his reputation.

Besides, letting 'yourself' get shot in a game has a powerful symbolic message - it says that you believe so strongly that your product isn't harmful that you would stake your own life on it, and taking that stance undermines his claim that game developers 'knowingly sell a dangerous product'.

Besides, I think it would be a kick to have boss battles where you take-on each studio's stars before you can kill the corporate heads. Heh... "To win the game you must kill me, John Romero. ... Also, a space marine."



Running with sissors lets you kill them in the game. In fact there's quite a few examples throughout gaming such things, including john romero's head on a pike in Doom2.

[Krid]

Paroxysm said:

Krid said:
Hence the reason somebody needs to take him up on his offer just to stain his reputation.

Besides, letting 'yourself' get shot in a game has a powerful symbolic message - it says that you believe so strongly that your product isn't harmful that you would stake your own life on it, and taking that stance undermines his claim that game developers 'knowingly sell a dangerous product'.

Besides, I think it would be a kick to have boss battles where you take-on each studio's stars before you can kill the corporate heads. Heh... "To win the game you must kill me, John Romero. ... Also, a space marine."



Running with sissors lets you kill them in the game. In fact there's quite a few examples throughout gaming such things, including john romero's head on a pike in Doom2.



Yes, but he can selectively ignore that - he's done it so far.

However, ignoring it in a game that he paid people to create would be impossible.

[Dr. Kill]

I was looking at an article about this on Gamespot, and at first thought "Old news.", but in the middle part, it added more of Crazy Jack's bullshit:




Thompson, who has in the past made headlines for comparing Entertainment Software Association Douglas Lowenstein to Adolf Hitler, responded to Walsh's letter Friday in a letter sent to GameSpot, among others.

"Dr. Walsh's efforts are funded by Target and by a foundation run by Best Buy lawyer and Best Buy Director Elliot Kaplan," Thompson wrote, later adding, "I am suing Target and Best Buy over the Bully game, which both Target and Best Buy are pre-selling. (good luck, nutty! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif ) You connect the dots."





(I didn't know he was going to try to sue Best Buy and Target, if it's old shit, sorry)

[Odin]

Dr. Kill said:
I was looking at an article about this on Gamespot, and at first thought "Old news.", but in the middle part, it added more of Crazy Jack's bullshit:




Thompson, who has in the past made headlines for comparing Entertainment Software Association Douglas Lowenstein to Adolf Hitler, responded to Walsh's letter Friday in a letter sent to GameSpot, among others.

"Dr. Walsh's efforts are funded by Target and by a foundation run by Best Buy lawyer and Best Buy Director Elliot Kaplan," Thompson wrote, later adding, "I am suing Target and Best Buy over the Bully game, which both Target and Best Buy are pre-selling. (good luck, nutty! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif ) You connect the dots."





(I didn't know he was going to try to sue Best Buy and Target, if it's old shit, sorry)



I didn't know that. Then again, I don't read much gaming news.

Anyways, good luck on suing Best buy and Target. Also good luck on finding a case.

[avatar_58]

Maybe we'll get lucky and the two stores will win. Then Jack will just be another homeless bum complaining about the world.

[Paroxysm]

Jacks only ever won one case as far as I know and that was over the whole cop killer album. So losing doens't stop his shit.

[Dr. Kill]

"Cop Killer!!!"

[Orochi Avlis]

This is what I find really funny:

There is a very clear passage in the New Testament in which believers are admonished that if they have a problem with someone, to go to that person in private and try and work it out. He didn't do that. He did not want to do that. What he wanted to do it seems is ingratiate himself with some of the folks that fund his organization, so that he will continue to be considered 'a responsible critic'--one who can be counted upon not to go too far with his criticism


He is quoting the bible. THE BIBLE, PEOPLE!

And what gaming company actually funds this group?

This is what I don't get.

First off, he says he is not against the gaming community but against the rating system. But he offends every gamer and continues to talk smack about the industry.

Second: like what I refered to before, his hypocritical stance on harrasing people. He himself does it, but anybody who dares to even try and talk to him a second time gets a warning before he slaps a class action suit on their ass.

Third: Does this guy do any actual research?

Fourth: Where does this guy keep getting money from to continue this "crusade"?

EDIT: It would be funny if Jesus called him and asked him not to refer to the bible, himself or christianity. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Dr. Kill]

I found out today that stopkill.com (www.stopkill.com) really IS Jack Thompson's official web site, and not a fake. On Gamespot.com they had something about ol Jack, and it mentioned that that this family organization (forget the name) is against him posting a link to them on the site. I checked Stopkill.com, and it had their link on it. Right now I checked again, and he took their link off, and redesigned the site. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Jack is the nation's bitch.

[Odin]

It's funny because Jack Thompson is getting no major news coverage at all. It's like he's trying hard to wiggle his ears, but for some reason he can't do it.

[Sofa]

Tycho said:

It was only a matter of time until a mod team took Jack Thompson's disgusting revenge fantasy and made it flesh - and, just as I suggested, it was deemed insufficient.

Thompson now claims that his repellent suggestion was "satire," and we must conclude that his financial offer was also satire, some new breed of satire apparently that I'm sure is just hilarious to people in need.

You know what, Jack? We're going to be the men you're not. You said that your insulting, illusory ten thousand dollars would go to the charity of Paul Eibeler's choice. We've got a good guess that he'd direct your nonexistant largesse toward The Entertainment Software Association Foundation, a body that has raised over six point seven million dollars over the last eight years. We've just made the donation you never would, and never meant to. Ten thousand dollars' worth. And we made it in your name.



Penny-Arcade > most things > everything else > Jack Thompson.

[Dr. Kill]

Two violent games are coming out tomarrow, but Jack doesn't seem to care since they aren't as hyped up (points to sig) as others. Typical. Anyway, I can't wait til Bully comes out early next year. With the release of Bully and Bad Day LA early next year, he's going to shit his pants and it's going to be pretty funny, although completely predictable. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

Evil people sometimes have to be stopped, or at least their evil has to be stopped. You can cite all the studies and all the findings and keep giving your video game report card to Congress, and it will not matter unless somebody gets into the trenches and stops these people.


Evil?
Oh the WW2 cliches never cease. No wonder NIMF didn't want to be associated with him.


Liberals, like you, love to label things and then think that the labeling has accomplished something. If that had been the case, then Churchill's calling Hitler a Nazi would have ended the war. But no, people like me had to get into the trenches and stop the Nazis.


This guy actually thinks that he is a hero fighting this evil entity.

This label analogy makes no freakin sense.

[Dr. Kill]

If those are Thompson's quotes than he gets crazier every time I read more about him. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Thanks for that, I needed a laugh, and Jack always supplies. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

Here's the link. (http://biz.gamedaily.com/features.asp?article_id=10830)

Apperently the $10,000 donation was total BS. (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000743063662/)


But that’s not all: not only is he unsatisfied with the mod, he claims his earlier proposal was merely intended as satire, to “highlight the patent hypocrisy and recklessness exhibited by the video game industry’s willingness to target cops, women, homosexuals, and other groups with some of their violent games.” (So the $10K offer to charity was satire, too?)

He then proceeds to ridicule gamers and the “video game community” for their lack of insight into his keen wit


Wit?
Wasn't he serious about his proposal?
Keep it up JT, pretty soon no one will listen to you.

[someguy2435]

Orochi Avlis said:
Wasn't he serious about his proposal?



Yes (http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000103062744/#c509245) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Dr. Kill]

<font color="red">THAT GOD DAMN FRAUDULENT A**HOLE!!!</font> http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

That's not right to tease a charity like that!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif May he drink the vomit of 1000 dead hookers and burn in hell!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

btw, long live the Fighting Hellfish! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Dr. Kill]

Hey, look at what I just found on a GTA site!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

CJ has a new ride! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Here's the quote from the site:

"Also known as "Hotride", this mod turns the Faggio into a woman that you can "ride" around town. Jack Thompson will love this one!"

[Odin]

Dr. Kill said:
<font color="red">THAT GOD DAMN FRAUDULENT A**HOLE!!!</font> http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

That's not right to tease a charity like that!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif May he drink the vomit of 1000 dead hookers and burn in hell!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

btw, long live the Fighting Hellfish! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Long live the Fighting Hellfish! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif *arm pumps*

And I agree, not giving 10 grand was a big ***** mistake. He might not even have that much, judging from all his losses.

[Dr. Kill]

as soon as I get a better videocard I think I'll install that bike mod, and the hot coffee mod. That would be some funny shit! That bike mod puts a new meaning to "Pimp My Ride"!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

There's also a great mod that makes all cars lowriders.

[ZuljinRaynor]

What a bloody wanker. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[Odin]

Brad Wardell of Wincustomize.com rants about Jack Thompsky on PowerUser.tv (http://www.wincustomize.com/articles.aspx?SID=1&AID=89576&c=1).

[avatar_58]

It was only a matter of time until a mod team took Jack Thompson's disgusting revenge fantasy and made it flesh - and, just as I suggested, it was deemed insufficient.

Thompson now claims that his repellent suggestion was "satire," and we must conclude that his financial offer was also satire, some new breed of satire apparently that I'm sure is just hilarious to people in need.

You know what, Jack? We're going to be the men you're not. You said that your insulting, illusory ten thousand dollars would go to the charity of Paul Eibeler's choice. We've got a good guess that he'd direct your nonexistant largesse toward The Entertainment Software Association Foundation, a body that has raised over six point seven million dollars over the last eight years. We've just made the donation you never would, and never meant to. Ten thousand dollars' worth. And we made it in your name.

(CW)TB




http://www.penny-arcade.com/news.php?date=2005-10-17

[Krid]

I still say it should be made, even if he won't cough-up the cash.

Think about it: Even if satirically, he suggested the game's creation. Therefore it could legally be stated that he is ultimately responsible for it.

If he tried to sue over the use of his name, a simple friend-of-the-court submission of Jacko's open letter would be enough to scuttle his suit.

[Kristian Joensen]

Orochi Avlis said:

Evil people sometimes have to be stopped, or at least their evil has to be stopped. You can cite all the studies and all the findings and keep giving your video game report card to Congress, and it will not matter unless somebody gets into the trenches and stops these people.


Evil?
Oh the WW2 cliches never cease. No wonder NIMF didn't want to be associated with him.



What is the NIMF ?

[Orochi Avlis]

Is the abbreviation of the family media group that is conducting studies to see if violent media affects kids.

I saw it somewhere, I don't know the organization's full name of by heart.

[Burfid]

Kristian Joensen said:
What is the NIMF ?



the National Institute on Media and the Family http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Jack's made a fool of himself again (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6135979.html) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

Good luck with that JT.

Love the fact that he shows such a professional tone in his letters.

Oh, gotta love the selective statements as well.

Penny Arcade has the said letter on their site. Here's a passage:

There are a bunch of computer geeks that think that the video game industry has a constitutional right to paint a bullseye on your back and on your officers' backs....


Funny, funny guy.

[Logic Bomb]

I find it hard to believe that a LAWYER can't even f**king spell check or grammar check is own things.

He spells penny arcade wrong, "there" instead of "they're". god...

I hope he is publically humiliated one of these days. Pie to the face style on videotape or something.

Big red letters across his house that says "or else"

- LB

[Tang Lung]

It all seems like one huge joke...it just seems too ridiculous.

[Odin]

Thing is, it's not a joke. Jack Thompson is a real man, although using the word "man" to describe him only makes humanity look dumber.

I have to say though, the phrase "moral midgets" is a choice piece of insultry.

[Burfid]

Odin said:
I have to say though, the phrase "moral midgets" is a choice piece of insultry.



Yea it's right up there with calling people names by rhyming their name with another word even if the word is completely made up. Like Raymond=Gaymond or Zack= Crack http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[GodBlitZor]

"Jack, you know, your stupid is showing?"

*covers crotch*
"AHHH where~!?!1" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Wamplet]

Burfid said:

Yea it's right up there with calling people names by rhyming their name with another word even if the word is completely made up. Like Raymond=Gaymond or Zack= Crack http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif




Everyone loves Gaymond. \o




PS: I'm Asian.

[bert123]

Wamplet said:

Burfid said:

Yea it's right up there with calling people names by rhyming their name with another word even if the word is completely made up. Like Raymond=Gaymond or Zack= Crack http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif




Everyone loves Gaymond. \o




PS: I'm Asian.



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[Wamplet]

bert123 said:

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



It's a joke about the TV show.

Just don't let Rogar see this post. \o

PS: I'm Asian.

[Duoae]

Jack was interviewed by Spong recently. I think the interview is a good source of how arrogant this guy is. He has MAJOR double-standard issues and i'm pretty sure that defamation and whatever else he practices with other people's/organisation's names is not normally allowed in a legal sense. If anyone called him crazy in an interview then i'm pretty sure he'd bring out his bat and "chastise" them.

Anyway, link (http://spong.com//detail/editorial.jsp?eid=10109308&snapBack=t)

I think my favourite bit was:



Videogamer opinions are like noses. Everybody has one. Videogamers are the only people I know who think that using a product makes you an expert in law cases about which you know nothing and about psychology even though they have no degrees. The US Supreme Court in Roper vs. Simmons and in Rice vs. Paladin has affirmed the legitimacy of our lawsuit in Alabama. We'll see what happens there.



It's amazing how this logic applies to those instances but when it's:


Columbine was the Pearl Harbor of the culture wars, because it was the moment at which pop culture contributed to the worst school killing in American history. Red Lake was the newest Columbine, whose perp, Weiss, played and trained on GTA.




It's completely legitimate to use a game as a training tool or "murder simulator" to plan your attacks etc.

It's illogical thinking.

I also liked this bit:



Namely that countries that sell these games that don't have armed populaces are less likely to see copycat shootings. Kind of obvious, right? Did you know knifing murders are up in Japan?



Huh?! Why'd he pull that random fact out of the hat? So what? Maybe marital abuse cases are skyrocketing in the US or somewhere else. How many games are about knifing people? There's a knife in counter strike.... one in far cry, Planetside (not that i ever use them). I'm struggling to think of any other mainstream games that do. But also, what kind of games do people in Japan tend to play? Certainly, it tends not to be the western-style games that Jack's probably aware of.

Besides the point, every country has knives widely available. If people are getting more stressed due to lifestyle (and therefore a correlation with murders, fights etc) eg. Overcrowding, stressfrom work etc. then the most easily accessed weapons will be wielded, whether planned or not. I doubt that many people pick up a knife and plan to go to a school and kill people.

Random.

[Orochi Avlis]

I found humorous the part where the interviewer asks what game he was playing and to which he responds Take Two, and that he was winning.

Really? What has he won?

[widowmaker]

Odin said:
I have to say though, the phrase "moral midgets" is a choice piece of insultry.



I have a good response to that. How about Mental Midget. He uses the simplest forms of english hoping that we have less thana grade school education and do not pick up on the fact that he is trying very badly to get us to agree with him.

The letter to the police is one such bit of trash. He attempts to convince them not that there is a crime being committed but that he is doing them a favor and they should do the same for him. Isn't that a breach of some oath he took as a lawyer?

The game idea and donation gimmick was intended for us to say that it woudl be a bad idea. Thus having him publicly note we agree with him. Although I must ask Jack where he got his degree in game design because I've seen better ideas from a 3 year old.

That would an "In your face Jack" in response to his comments on gamers not having degrees in Law or psychology. And so he speaks of what he knows nothing as if he was an expert.

I say we setup a national debate between the Pennie Arcade guys and Jack. Put them on a serious show though. Like have them face off on CNN. But chain Jack to the desk so he cannot just jump and run when he starts to lose.

[laffer]

I would so LOVE to discuss with this guy in person!

[widowmaker]

laffer said:
I would so LOVE to discuss with this guy in person!



In a Tony Soprano kind of discussion.

[Dave-ros]

laffer said:
I would so LOVE to discuss with this guy in person!


It would resemble this:
http://www.casual-gamers.de/cg/images/postimages2/arguing29bw.gif

[Odin]

Dave-ros said:

laffer said:
I would so LOVE to discuss with this guy in person!


It would resemble this:
http://www.casual-gamers.de/cg/images/postimages2/arguing29bw.gif



You win an Internet.

[Neptune]

Dave-ros said:

laffer said:
I would so LOVE to discuss with this guy in person!


It would resemble this:
http://www.casual-gamers.de/cg/images/postimages2/arguing29bw.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

Wow... and I thought Jack Chick was bad...

[someguy2435]

I have half a mind to just go ahead and create his modest proposal game, even though he already admitted it was bull****. Now if only I knew how to mod...

[Logic Bomb]

someguy2435 said:
I have half a mind to just go ahead and create his modest proposal game, even though he already admitted it was bull****. Now if only I knew how to mod...



Did you not already hear it was made by a mod team?

- LB

[Kristian Joensen]

For which game/engine ?

Where can you download it ?

[Orochi Avlis]

Kristian Joensen said:
For which game/engine ?


It was for GTA:SA.
Fitting really.



Where can you download it ?


I'm trying to find that myself, but I think they took it down to huge server overflow.

Anyways, looks like God wasn't on his side after all. (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051019-5458.html)
Ole Jackie boy is under investigation.
Not his first incident with the FBA mind you.

[Mariamus]

Wouldn't it be so awesome if he got his license to threathed with legal babble revoked?

he would have been owned by the geek community.

[Logic Bomb]

I believe he would still sue and represent himself which is entirely within his rights.

It would still be nice to see him not able to practice law professionally though. He then wouldn't be much of a media icon hopefully.

- LB

[someguy2435]

Logic Bomb said:

someguy2435 said:
I have half a mind to just go ahead and create his modest proposal game, even though he already admitted it was bull****. Now if only I knew how to mod...



Did you not already hear it was made by a mod team?

- LB



of course I did. Notice the bold. He admitted it in the same article about the GTA:SA mod

[Odin]

Orochi Avlis said:
looks like God wasn't on his side after all. (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051019-5458.html)
Ole Jackie boy is under investigation.
Not his first incident with the FBA mind you.



Ahahahaha! May I be the first to say...

JACK THOMPSOWNED

[Darth Darthy]

Any man who wants to be taken seriously in the arena of public debate probably shouldn't insult his opponent to the extent that JT does. It makes him look incredibly naive and ignorant.

[Dr. Kill]

with pulling out of the "$10,000 to charity" deal, he really made himself look like an ass! Nobody will take him seriously now, and in the end, he will probably just help his enemy (gamers/people who think for themselves) win the war.

[GodBlitZor]

Darth Darthy said:
Any man who wants to be taken seriously in the arena of public debate probably shouldn't insult his opponent to the extent that JT does. It makes him look incredibly naive and ignorant.



Sorry for the OT -but did you make that Pipebomb Revolution thing on YTMND? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Neptune]

Odin said:

Orochi Avlis said:
looks like God wasn't on his side after all. (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051019-5458.html)
Ole Jackie boy is under investigation.
Not his first incident with the FBA mind you.



Ahahahaha! May I be the first to say...

JACK THOMPSOWNED



Bwahahahahahaha...


That was THE most creative thing I've read all day! Thanks, guys!

[avatar_58]

Will Jack represent himself in court? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

Neptune said:

Odin said:

Orochi Avlis said:
looks like God wasn't on his side after all. (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051019-5458.html)
Ole Jackie boy is under investigation.
Not his first incident with the FBA mind you.



Ahahahaha! May I be the first to say...

JACK THOMPSOWNED





Somebody needs to make that picture of Jack with Rockstar and Penny Arcade in there somewhere.

[Roger]

Wamplet said:

bert123 said:

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif



It's a joke about the TV show.

Just don't let Rogar see this post. \o

PS: I'm Asian.



YUO = SUX.

[Dave-ros]

avatar_58 said:
Will Jack represent himself in court? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif


Well, they do say that a man who acts as his own lawyer has a fool for a client, and nowhere would it be truer than in his case!

[Dr. Kill]

[b]Thompson strikes again! (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6136318.html)[b] http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[someguy2435]

sigh

[ZuljinRaynor]

I want one of those T-Shirts. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[avatar_58]

Dr. Kill said:
Thompson strikes again! (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6136318.html) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif



What a fricken loser. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif I hope Thompson really gets burned in this and learns his lesson once and for all. You can't just threaten people with legal action for no apparent reason. F*cktard.....

[Orochi Avlis]

Lets hope the feds crack down on this guy for his false claims. They don't like it when people waste their time. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Maybe him getting his license revoked might not be such a irrealistic outcome afterall.

I bet he would blame the gaming community for his downfall which he provoked.

[Dr. Kill]

Orochi Avlis said:
I bet he would blame the gaming community for his downfall which he provoked.



wouldn't doubt it. Crybaby.

Ok, so he used to bitch about rap music in the early 90's. Now gaming. So after the gamers win, what will he bitch about next?! Hockey? Skateboarding? Soccer moms for "not supporting him enough"?! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Perhaps he will commit suicide and the someone else like him will blame that on the gaming community/developers. He might even commit suicide just to get that reaction to it.

[PlayfulPuppy]

It's good to know that other people thought he was nuts (http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/outthere/otthompson.html) even BEFORE this whole video-game nonsense.

What's not so good to know, however, is this guy is still practicing law. If you read the link above, you'll find that he's done other things in a far more public eye and far worse than what we've had to deal with, including public blackmail and (If I understand the definition correctly) extortion.

We haven't seen the least of it, and he's STILL practicing law. That's a might bit disturbing indeed.

[Dr. Kill]

I remember reading that article. He's a f***ing wacko! Tomarrow he's going to try to sue nature cause the sun is killing him slowly with UV rays! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Orochi Avlis]

Holy crap.

I knew about the Reno lesbian incident, but damn.


So I will grant you that you do bring to the present case an understanding of the various ways to hide evidence.


And you sir, do a very find job of being ignorant of the facts.