The Call of Duty 2 Thread

[ZuljinRaynor]

Well, the game is out already and I know I'm getting it for Christmas, but I wanna know if any of you picked it up yet?

I'm kinda upset with the scores Gamespot and IGN gave it. I hope PCG gives it a better score because if the full game is like the demo, then it is way better than CoD 1. Demo score from me is 98%.

[Lethe]

ZuljinRaynor said:
Well, the game is out already and I know I'm getting it for Christmas, but I wanna know if any of you picked it up yet?

I'm kinda upset with the scores Gamespot and IGN gave it. I hope PCG gives it a better score because if the full game is like the demo, then it is way better than CoD 1. Demo score from me is 98%.



Yeah..demo really kicked ass.. Demo was IMHO better than whole call of duty 1 game

[Nessus]

I have it and it's excellent. 6 CD's I should have requested the DVD, I started to take it for granted that that's what it would be. With the full detail on the models it really looks good too. You should see the snow effect in the opening Stalingrad level, it looks really good, snow blows around like in real life.

I didn't see a save feature, I may have missed it but it's not really needed anyway with the health regeneration and and constant autosaves. I did run into one problem with that though. The Germans were retreating and then they set themselves and were really pounding us I kept getting killed in the onslaught so I decided to rush them and see if I could weather the storm and break their line and slaugher them closeup. Of course that had no chance of working and I got killed, no big deal right? Wrong. I must have went through an invisible checkpoint and when I respawned each time I was in a hail of fire and died almost instantly. At that point I got frustrated and switched to multiplay.


Multiplayer is great. I dont really play these war games, I'm more of a UT guy but goddam this is good. When you get killed they have a feature where you see your death through the eyes of the guy that killed you. I dont know if thats new but it's the first time I saw it, pretty neat. Needless to say it looks fantastic and the whole experience is really immersive.

[big fat lazy]

I'm thinking of getting it. I mean, I WILL get it for sure, but I'm not in any hurry.
The demo ran VERY good for me, better than Far Cry, HL2, and much better than Fear. And I heard the full game runs even better than the demo!
I should add something else but I can't think of anything.

[Nessus]

The full game runs worse than the demo for me, I think because of the extra detail in the full game models. All in all it still runs really well for something that looks so good.

[Komb.at]

I'm going to get this as soon as f*cking possible. I fear though, that it will be quite a few days until it hits Austria. Grrr, and i pray to god i'll get a DVD version, and primarily the english version....

Must ... have .... COD .... fix ....

ah well, i still have to finish Q4 , that should take at least a day to tie me over

[Cerberus_e]

some questions

- does the ammo part of the HUD still disappear and reappear? that annoys the hell out of me.

- huge fights on a par with stalingrad and the red square from COD, or some of the UO missions like the first russian mission, or the mission where you defend that big house against lots of approaching enemies and tanks? no descriptions please, it's a yes/no question so I expect such an answer http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif and I hope it's a yes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

- health bar?

- does the screen shake as much as in the demo when you shoot your SMG? annoys me as well.

the demo kind of disappointed me, most missions from COD & UO were way better.

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerb, the HUD setup in demo is one thing Infinity Ward was really trying for. Trying to eleminate the HUD, and make it more intense and realistic.

It's the same way in the final game.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Play with the console Cerb.

[Cerberus_e]

Damien_Azreal said:
Cerb, the HUD setup in demo is one thing Infinity Ward was really trying for. Trying to eleminate the HUD, and make it more intense and realistic.

It's the same way in the final game.



they're not eliminating it, they're making the HUD more apprent so it kills the immersion even more.
normally a hud doesn't kill immersion for me, but in cod 2 it does because the ammo part of the hud appearing and reappearing is really distracting for me

[Damien_Azreal]

Honestly I never noticed that the HUD was disappearing until someone mentioned it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I like having it gone most of the time.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Cerberus_e said:

Damien_Azreal said:
Cerb, the HUD setup in demo is one thing Infinity Ward was really trying for. Trying to eleminate the HUD, and make it more intense and realistic.

It's the same way in the final game.



they're not eliminating it, they're making the HUD more apprent so it kills the immersion even more.
normally a hud doesn't kill immersion for me, but in cod 2 it does because the ammo part of the hud appearing and reappearing is really distracting for me


Play around with the console, I say it again. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Cerberus_e]

I hate cheating, if it's the developer's intention to distract me, then so be it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
but if they remove it, or create an option for it, in the menu, it's even better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ZuljinRaynor]

They don't care about your opinion Cerb. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
the health bar is practically useless even if you make it show up. As for the ammo, why don't you try playing CoD 1 with the realism mod? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Nessus]

Jeez, just hit the reload key if you need to see info, I like it gone, In fact I hadnt really noticed one way or the other, I dont even look at ammo count, I keep track of that mentally.

[Cerberus_e]

Nessus said:
Jeez, just hit the reload key if you need to see info



the problem is not I can't see it, the problem is when it reappears, it draws all my attention, unwanted.
way to hit next to the issue http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Nessus]

Well if that bothers you it bothers you, me I haven't been noticing it I dont look at anything but the little mission map thing. I have to say I',m finding that lack of any manual save system really annoying. I was just in an intense battle for about 5 minutes and when I thought it was winding down I progressed and got killed by a grenade, I had no choice but to start the whole battle over, I just stopped playing. My comrades keep yelling, "Get the fascists" and all I can think is, "The fascists made the game!" I dont like not having choices.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Maybe we should ask Infinity Ward to make a patch that adds saving normally?

[Cerberus_e]

oh I don't mind the lack of a save feature, it's funny http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I don't need a save feature, but need an option to keep the HUD static.
you guys need a save function, and like how the HUD is http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Komb.at]

I might get it today, i'll see if i can leave work for an hour or so... there's hope i guess...

however i think i'll start the game on hardest difficulty, makes the game more tactical

[Komb.at]

Got it yesterday, and i'm pretty far i think (somewhere in caen).

So far i love it, but does anyone else feel that the higher difficultys are ridiculous hard? Not COD1 or UO kind of hard, but WTF-hard. You can hardly poke your head out of cover, you get INSTANTLY shot at from about everyone, making out targets is allmost impossible, and staying behind your cover for to long (especially when defending your position) leads to beeing overrun VERY fast. I had to switch to normal in Caen, because i just got frustrated.

And i think there's a ludicrous low amount of russion missions http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif (unless there are more at the end of the game, which i don't think since i got the message that i've completed the russion campaign)

[Dash 9]

I was just in an intense battle for about 5 minutes and when I thought it was winding down I progressed and got killed by a grenade, I had no choice but to start the whole battle over, I just stopped playing.



That's why there's often multiple paths to win a mission.This is certainly a key change from the previous WW2 shooters where there was but one path. Although there are some very tough spots the key is to have a good understanding of your surroundings.

As for the lack of manual save,well, it hasn't bothered me so far. Only a very hard piece of mission (British) in Tunisia got me grinding my teeth but when I got a better understanding of the area it became much easier.

The only thing that made me frown a tiny bit was the use of "Pavelchekovism" when the characters talk in the Soviet missions. Having real chatter in Russian would have been nice (with subtitles, of course). But like I said, it's a really minor gripe. The lack of health indicator and the lack Patch-U-Up grocery bags might put you off but it's only a matter of finding good cover if your vision goes red.

I bought the game yesterday and I've already finished the Soviet and British missions. All I can say is that this game is truly worth every penny and then some. Simply put, take the toughest and most chaotic missions from CoD and plaster their intensity wall to wall into CoD2.

[Nessus]

I agree Dash, except for that one incident the save system has not been an issue since, although I would still have preffered to have control. I think I'm near the end of the russian campaign, I cant wait to get out of the snow even though it looks cool. I'm kinda surprised how unpopular this thread is as this is a totally kick ass game with awesome sound, graphics and action. Well, back to the motherland......

[Cerberus_e]

so cod2 has battles on a par with stalingrad?

[Opus131]

Nessus said:
I agree Dash, except for that one incident the save system has not been an issue since, although I would still have preffered to have control. I think I'm near the end of the russian campaign, I cant wait to get out of the snow even though it looks cool. I'm kinda surprised how unpopular this thread is as this is a totally kick ass game with awesome sound, graphics and action. Well, back to the motherland......



If only it ran on the Doom3 engine...

[Fraeon Waser Duhni]

Hmmmm...I was doubly sure that I was sick and tired of WW2 but holy hell... I might just download the demo to try it out.

[jimbob]

i`ll pick it up when it drops i price, or if i get a lucky break financially http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Nessus]

Cerberus_e said:
so cod2 has battles on a par with stalingrad?



The game starts off back in Stalingrad in the snow and yes it's on par with the first game. Although so far there hasn't been a moment quite as dramatic as running behind the flag. The graphics and immersion are amazing though, the snow effect is by far the best ever seen in a game. And you should see all the bump mapping, it's on almost everything. But dont worry about it being epic enough, there are tons of large scale intense battles where it really feels like you're in a war, or at least what I imagine it to be like.

[GrkFire611]

Just finished the British mission "Operation Supercharge," where, as an infantryman, I had to escort the armor through a veritable gauntlet of anti-tank support. It was freakin' intense.

This game is absolutely gorgeous, by the way. Right now it runs pretty smoothly at 800x600 screen resolution, 2x AA, all dx9 shaders enabled, and texture resolution set to its highest. The atmosphere in the Soviet missions was spectacular, and I do agree that the snow effect was the best I've seen in a game yet. The British missions look awesome as well, with beautiful skyboxes and sunlit environments that really show off the excellent shadowing and bumpmapping.

I can't wait to play more.

http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/333/shot00270tl.th.jpg (http://img326.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot00270tl.jpg)

[Komb.at]

Well i finished it yesterday. Really good game.

The good:
Amazing graphics, very cool chaotic war feeling, very good sounds, smoke stuff looks great, it's DOD!

the not so good:
harder diff's are hard the wrong way, enemys sometimes respawn to fast (they don't let you enough time to advance, and one time they even respawned just for fun, when i was looking out of a window on the first floor i saw about 30!!! krauts wating down below), not enough russion missions, not enough US missions, not enough "holy shit" events like in UO

my favourite maps where repairing the wire, point du hoc (initial attack and fallback) and the attack on hill #xy.

[Airtraffic]

Just started it (3rd level complete),nice graphics and runs awesome @1280x1024 all turned up (so far not even a slowdown)

I'm playing it on "hard" not hardest as i read this thread and figured it might be too much for me (getting old you know http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif )

Anyway,cool game so far...think i'll give MP a try now

[WestSeven]

Wow - this is the first game that has really made my system struggle. What hardware do you have AT?

[Airtraffic]

WestSeven said:
Wow - this is the first game that has really made my system struggle. What hardware do you have AT?



Hmmm,didn't think it would be a "taxing" game but my rig is fairly powerfull.

intel 3.4
ATI X850 PCI-e
2 gig ram

[December Man]

Tried the demo. Didn't impress me at all. And I LOVE WWII games.

The graphics aren't that good(almost max details set).
The health system is strange. I didn't die even once on medium difficulty. In CoD I could feel that I can die any moment and surviving is pure luck(like in real war), while in CoD2 I feel invincible.

To sum up:
It's just CoD with better graphics + some minor changes. One man army(+ some dummies i.e. your friends) vs. Krauts. The feeling of being Rambo was lesser in the first game, it's much bigger and noticeable here(due to the health system).

Even if the full version is better, the demo didn't convince me to buy it.

[GrkFire611]

Playing on hardened is really tough. Playing on veteran is nearly impossible. Medium just isn't the way this game is meant to be played. If you needed health packs to heal up in this game on veteran, the game would literally be impossible. No doubt about it.

Also, your squadmates are extremely helpful -- again, I chalk this up to you playing the game on medium. On harder difficulties, they're invaluable, spotting enemies for you, relaying information back to you, tossing grenades back at the enemy, throwing smokes when you don't have any, and being excellent shots. I didn't think it felt like Rambo at any time. There aren't even any S.A.S. missions in the game, they all feature full squads of teammates.

Also, as far as the graphics not being so good -- are you sure you don't have it on dx7 mode? You'd be missing all the dx9 goodies like bump-mapping, weather effects, etc. The game has it on "auto" by default, set it to dx9 just to make sure. I think the game looks fantastic in all aspects.

If your gripe is with the health system, then so be it. It's a large change from CoD and most FPS in general, but I find it to be a definite boon once you get used to it. The game would be impossible to beat otherwise, and as it is, it doesn't take you out of the action to search for medkits. Shots to the head and chest still kill you in one hit on harder difficulties, and in multiplayer the damage scale REALLY ramps up - a rifle shot to your upper torso and head will kill you outright, and anything else will pretty much take you down close to zero, rendering you slow and bleeding on the battlefield scrambling for cover.

Different strokes for different folks, though. I'd recommend giving the full game a try at least when the price drops, if not sooner. It's the best FPS I've played in a long time, and by far the best WWII FPS out there.

[December Man]

Squadmates:

Tell me they're not scripted and the developers are gods. But I strongly doubt they're not. After Brothers in Arms scripted teammates and minor events(artillery shells, squadmate deaths etc.) are pathetic(maybe that's too strong of a word).

The difficulty issues you're telling about made me think that the setting is somewhat f**ed up. If there are no quick saves available and on higher settings the game is becoming incredibly hard, this takes us to the conclusion: medium is too easy, hard is...well, too hard.

In multiplayer a rifle shot near the head was always a kill in CoD. The things you say make me believe multi hasn't changed much.

None of the games lately released amazed me with their graphics. Not even FEAR. So CoD2 has no chance to do that.

[GrkFire611]

I never said squadmates or enemies weren't scripted. A.I. in all its forms has to be scripted to an extent. It's far less noticable in CoD2 than it was in the first game, though. When squadmates toss out phrases about where enemies are in relation to them, it's on the fly -- I've died enough times to notice different things being said in the same situations. Personally, I'm less idealistic about having free-thinking A.I. in any future FPS games. I find that scripted sequences are the only way developers can get a real feeling of intensity across to the gamer. Call them "setpiece" battles if you wish, but I find those the most rewarding, instead of an A.I. system that could potentially deliver something cool but 9 times out of 10 delivers something lame.

But that's not to say that the difficulty settings are messed up. They're extremely reasonable. Just notice what they say when you mouse over them -- you've got "for newcomers to FPS games" on greenhorn, which is true. Medium is, well, a happy medium between the easiness of greenhorn and the intensity of hardened and veteran, as it should be. It's not that hard at all, but it's not exactly a cakewalk either. Hardened is described with "your skills will be strained," and it's true -- my skills were definitely put to the test, but not in an unfair way. I quickly learned from my mistakes, like how I was running around in the open too often or taking things too quickly and being too gung-ho in general. It's a big step up from Medium, but it should be, considering it's intended for people who have played CoD and know the sort of style you need to play it well. Veteran comes with the tagline "you will not survive," but if you played the original game you'll know they aren't kidding. When I mentioned it being impossible, I meant that it would be if they kept the medkits in -- it's clear that IW tailored the difficulty levels around the new health system, so it's easy to conclude that if you didn't have the new health system, you'd get your ass handed to you every single time. Veteran is for just that, "veterans" of the game who know its ins and outs and are ready to invest a lot of time into it. It's damn fun and crazy intense.

All of it chalks up on higher difficulties to never giving me a sense of Rambo, which is my point. On medium, you take your hits and chill out for a while, perhaps propogating that feeling of invincibility. On hardened and veteran, you take your hits and either die outright or shit your pants in fear whilst hauling ass for cover, all the while frantically wondering what your next move will be or where the shot came from.

I like the abolishing of quicksaves, as the autosave system is smart and never leaves you playing more than 5 minutes back from your death at a time. I hate having the luxury of quicksaving in FPS games. It makes me use it and in turn diminishes the experience in my eyes.

And it's true that multiplayer hasn't changed much. Outside of the regenerating health system (which isn't a major deal because of how steep the damage model is), there's new guns, new maps, the new graphics, and integrated VoIP. But I don't see that as a problem, because the original CoD's multiplayer was golden to me. I get some new toys to play with, but the core gameplay remains the same, and I'm all the happier for it. If you were expecting something radical, though, then it seems like you're out of luck.

And I guess graphics are in the eye of the beholder. I rate graphics based on how well they immerse me in the environment, and I haven't played too many games recently that can do it like CoD2 does. Everything, the visuals, the sounds, the intensity -- it all adds up to one majorly atmospheric package. If it's not your cup of tea, then that's fine. It's up to you if you want to give it a chance or not. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

P.S., if anyone's on multiplayer, my tag is GRman116. I'll be playing this weekend, so if anyone's up for some matches, say the word and I'm there!

-mike

[Airtraffic]

December Man said:
Tried the demo. Didn't impress me at all. And I LOVE WWII games.

The graphics aren't that good(almost max details set).
The health system is strange. I didn't die even once on medium difficulty. In CoD I could feel that I can die any moment and surviving is pure luck(like in real war), while in CoD2 I feel invincible.

To sum up:
It's just CoD with better graphics + some minor changes. One man army(+ some dummies i.e. your friends) vs. Krauts. The feeling of being Rambo was lesser in the first game, it's much bigger and noticeable here(due to the health system).

Even if the full version is better, the demo didn't convince me to buy it.



Maybe it's just me but people shouldn't throw stones at a game based on a demo....either play the full game or clam up http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

BTW,the graphics are better than Doom3 on my system,runs very smooth and overall a very fun game.

[Nessus]

December Man, this is pretty much as good as graphics get, you should judge games by what actually exists not by what might be out in a few years.

I'm halfway through the brit missions, great game so far and I have to agree this is one of the most system taxing games I ever played.

[avatar_58]

I tried the demo yesterday. My opinion? Well first let me say that I usually hate World War FPS type games. I don't know why, but the games just never do it for me.

However, this game here seems amazing! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif The graphics, sound and gameplay was true to war and very hectic. I didn't quite understand the health system and thought I was immortal (I played on easy...) until I checked the readme and learned that they just didn't tell you a % number. I think thats pretty cool, it makes you actually duck for cover more than just glancing at 85% health and saying "Aw, I have enough for a rush-in gun fight".

I might pick this game up if the price drops. This just adds another game to my growing list. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[WestSeven]

I have to say I love it! It has absolutely amazed me. Team mates work really well and far from a Rambo style of game play I sometimes feal like I am cowering in a corner while my team mates are holding off the enemy. I think the graphics and sound are incredible - really the most immersive game I've played. I love the things your team mates shout while they're fighting...

"Rather you than me than me fascist"
"I'll thaw you out in the spring Fritz"
"Look out. Potato masher!" (grenade)

[Cerberus_e]

avatar_58 said:
I tried the demo yesterday. My opinion? Well first let me say that I usually hate World War FPS type games. I don't know why, but the games just never do it for me.

However, this game here seems amazing! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif The graphics, sound and gameplay was true to war and very hectic. I didn't quite understand the health system and thought I was immortal (I played on easy...) until I checked the readme and learned that they just didn't tell you a % number. I think thats pretty cool, it makes you actually duck for cover more than just glancing at 85% health and saying "Aw, I have enough for a rush-in gun fight".

I might pick this game up if the price drops. This just adds another game to my growing list. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



haven't you played medal of honor: allied assault + both expansions and call of duty 1 + expansion?
shame on you! those are the exceptions on the "WW2 = boring" rule http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
you can download demos of them

[WestSeven]

I just can't believe how good this game is! You really feal like you're part of the war. I'm well into the British capaign now and it's just amazing. There are times when it is absolute chaos and total carnage. The war is going on all around and you're just one small part of it. I really don't get how anyone can see this as a 'Rambo' experience. I guess it's not for everyone - but this is easily the best FPS I've played. It's so exciting!

I guess technically the engine might not be the best and I haven't noticed any physics - but still it is just amazing! Everywhere you look there are people fighting, stuff exploding, smoke, chaos, carnage, more smoke, tanks, planes - this is war!

[commandguy]

Yeah,I bought the game too,just for the sake of even having it,because I own the first game too.

And the game runs better than i thought on my system.
I'm way below minimum and run on medium to high details on DX7 mode.
The game is simply amazing in every way,can't say more about it than that.

[Komb.at]

I wonder why it says on which difficulty you beat each level in the level selection menu. Is there any bonus you get if you beat them all on veteran?

No watter if, i'm replaying it on veteran right now, still in the middle of the russion campaign, but for now, it feels a LOT less rambo-like. As in general, leaving your cover with more than 2 enemies still around will be your certan death.

[Fraeon Waser Duhni]

I got to test this one on the X360 and was bored out of my socks. Nope, still can't stand WW2. Done, redone, regurgitated and re-redone again for the record. Thankfully the same machine had Kameo or it or I would've had to queue for the other machines to test it...

PDZ looked scrumptious, though. But that's a story for another thread...

[Damien_Azreal]

I saw it out at the store yesterday.

But I didn't pick it up. Why? I'm not sure, maybe I tihnk I'v epsent enough on games this month. I really want it... but for some reason I keep stopping myself from picking it up.

And no, it's not financial...I have more than enough money. I'm somehwat confused as to my reason to hold back. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[avatar_58]

Damien_Azreal said:
I saw it out at the store yesterday.

But I didn't pick it up. Why? I'm not sure, maybe I tihnk I'v epsent enough on games this month. I really want it... but for some reason I keep stopping myself from picking it up.

And no, it's not financial...I have more than enough money. I'm somehwat confused as to my reason to hold back. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif



I have enough money to technially get every new game out there.....however I know better than to just throw away my cash like that. Maybe once I get a job http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

The thing is I have a job.

Still confused. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[WestSeven]

Hey Damien_Azreal IMO you really should get it. It is just the most amazingly immersive game I have ever played. I have to say WW2 games are kind of my thing anyway - but this is just mind blowing goodness.

You really get the fealing the war is going on around you "Hey Fritz, have a pineapple", "That's it Jerries run! Tell Rommell you were beaten by the boys of the 7th!"

Fantastic! But I really do need a new video card!

[Nessus]

I was just playing multiplayer which basically turned into a sniper battle in bombed out Stalingrad in the snow. It was one of the most immersive experiences I've ever had gaming, the illusion of reality was never so complete. This game looks incredible.

[Destroyer]

just saw this game on Xbox 360 today at compusa. it looks pretty sweet IMO. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Well, I took my girl friends advice... and bought CoD 2 this afternoon. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif God I love her, she just looked at me and said,
"I'm surprised you haven't picked up call of duty 2 yet."

I said, "Yeah, but I already have so many games from last month."
Then Bon said, "Well, just go buy it." http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[g-dog]

^^^^^^^^
Sounds like a keeper to me!!!!
(Can I borrow her???) lol... I joke...I joke http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[jimbob]

i want it too http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif but i can get it at the end of the month at best http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Komb.at]

I've dragged my ass to the silo level now. Damn veteran is sure hard as hell. The retreat of point du hoc was hell. When the tank first showed up i just smoked the whole area with 4 smokers and ran like hell (after failing 40 times to fight)

[Damien_Azreal]

Okay... I've got a damn problem. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I can run the game great. High details, 1024*768, 2xAA and it runs smooth as butta!
But... I've finished the russian campaign, and get into the British campaign. But once I reach the level "The Beginning of the End" It crashes.

After the loading screen, I get the black screen... the text scrolls on and the sounds freezes and it crashes. I have to then reboot my PC.

But once I start up CoD 2 again, my controls are gone, and all my progress in the game is gone as well. It's happened twice and I'm getting pissed.
And this appears to be a common problem, other users have talked about this in forums... but no solution has really popped up.
I want to play the rest of the British levels and reach the American levels, but this damn problem has prevented me from progressing any further. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

All my drivers are up to date, and I have no problems with any of games at all. And Cod 2 runs great until I reach that level load... it's got to be a bug.
But I figured I would ask in case.

System specs....

Pentium 4 3.0GHZ FBS 800mhz
2 gig PC-4200 DDR2 Ram
128MB ATi Radeon x800
Sound Blaster Audigy 2

Thanks in advance.

[GrkFire611]

Haven't heard about that bug. It might help if you check out the Infinity Ward forums: Infinity Ward Forums (http://www.iwnation.com/Forums/index.php)

[Cerberus_e]

Damien_Azreal said:
Okay... I've got a damn problem. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I can run the game great. High details, 1024*768, 2xAA and it runs smooth as butta!
But... I've finished the russian campaign, and get into the British campaign. But once I reach the level "The Beginning of the End" It crashes.

After the loading screen, I get the black screen... the text scrolls on and the sounds freezes and it crashes. I have to then reboot my PC.

But once I start up CoD 2 again, my controls are gone, and all my progress in the game is gone as well. It's happened twice and I'm getting pissed.
And this appears to be a common problem, other users have talked about this in forums... but no solution has really popped up.
I want to play the rest of the British levels and reach the American levels, but this damn problem has prevented me from progressing any further. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

All my drivers are up to date, and I have no problems with any of games at all. And Cod 2 runs great until I reach that level load... it's got to be a bug.
But I figured I would ask in case.

System specs....

Pentium 4 3.0GHZ FBS 800mhz
2 gig PC-4200 DDR2 Ram
128MB ATi Radeon x800
Sound Blaster Audigy 2

Thanks in advance.



it deleted your savegames? I find that hard to believe.

[Damien_Azreal]

It didn't delete them, they are still in the directory... but the game doesn't show them when I restart.

Other people are having the same problem, just on different levels. Half-way through the British campaign seems to be a spot, and starting up the American campaign is another.

Still no reply back from Activision tech support... *******s.

[Nessus]

I'm half way through the American mission. The fighting in the French towns was freakin insane, falling back behind all those walls in the smoke and rain getting flanked and flanking them, that was some of the most intense gaming I've ever done and it looked incredible, this game is a graphic whores dream.

[ZuljinRaynor]

What about us who'd play it with unsupported video cards?

[Nessus]

What video card do you have? I hope it's powerful because this game is a resource hog. I had to turn down to 2xAA because it was runiing a little slow (6800GT). I wish I had a little more RAM and processor I have 512MB and 1.7P4.

[Cerberus_e]

ZuljinRaynor said:
What about us who'd play it with unsupported video cards?



can't you run it in dx7? there is a demo

[Cerberus_e]

Nessus said:
What video card do you have? I hope it's powerful because this game is a resource hog. I had to turn down to 2xAA because it was runiing a little slow (6800GT). I wish I had a little more RAM and processor I have 512MB and 1.7P4.



he has a geforce 2.
and I think it's your RAM making 4*AA impossible.
I'll have 1024 mb ram and 6600GT next week, I'll keep this thread informed http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ZuljinRaynor]

Cerberus_e said:

ZuljinRaynor said:
What about us who'd play it with unsupported video cards?



can't you run it in dx7? there is a demo


I know I can run it 0-40 FPS depending on what is happening. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nessus]

Well with a Gefroce 2 he is pretty much screwed in Call of Duty 2, everything will have to be minimum and even then it may run slow.

I think youre right about not enough RAM. I used to have 1024 and games ran much better but one of my chips burnt and RDRAM is like 200 bucks for another stick.

[Damien_Azreal]

Check the iwnation.com forums.... there are a few fixes for the piss-poor frames.

Turns out there is a bug with SLI support, something about it enabling even if it's set to off. Plus Nvidia is working on new drivers, but ATi has release 5.11 which has giving many gamers a good 10 to 20 FPS increase.

Luckely, I haven't had FPS problems. I run it a 1024*768, 2xAA, all effects on at Max textures. Runs smooth as hell.

Now, if only Infinity Ward would release a patch... I could continue playing the game. That damn bug has made it to where I can't progress without cheating past that level.
And it's the f*cking demo level as well!! So I've played it, but I can't find any cheast to skip it... and I don't know which level is actualy next. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Nessus]

The next level after the demo level is Crusader Chase, it's the first of the tank levels. I looked though the graphic tips and the simplest one was to enable SLI regardless of what you have, I do think it helped.

[ZuljinRaynor]

CoD 2 Demo, playing it again... it is so much better than Call of Duty 1. I'm gonna have to replay CoD 1 again.

[Damien_Azreal]

Dammit. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif I just recieved an e-mail from Activision's tech support, stating that because they haven't heard anythign out of me in over 96 hours... my problem must have been solved.
And my question is now closed.

F*CK!!

How could they hear anythign out of me? The only other e-mail I got from them was the automatic one they sne dout, and it says "Do not reply to".

This is really just past the point of totaly pissing my off. But we've discovered something at the iwnation forums.

There is a thread in the help section called "Crashin in American Campaign", or something like that. They describe the same problem.
Other people have replyed stating the same problem.

And all of em have ATi cards. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif CoD 2 was optimized for Nvidia cards. So, there is a common problem with ATi cards on some point. All they need to do is find it.

I want a patch. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Cerberus_e]

wow Damien_Azreal. I'm happy I have a nvidia card (though it could still be coincidence, but I doubt it).
but I'm VERY PISSED OFF about how they treated you.
I'd send them an angry mail, and I'd even include pieces of text from some US law website stating you HAVE to support your costumers in trouble to show you mean business. if it doesn't help, fill a complaint at one of special offices in the US that don't do anything else than occupying them with suing companies that don't support their costumers.
there is no reason to think that "because they didn't hear anything from you", that the problem is solved... maybe damien_azreal was just being patient, activision? just a thought.
that's past the line of what's acceptable.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, I'm gonna e-mail them back... but I'm gonna wait until I calm down about it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif That way it's a bit more collected.

I've pretty much shelved CoD 2 for the moment. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I might try it on Bon's PC, it has an Nvidia card so if it works there.... who knows. I will have to cut the settings down from what I'm playing on this PC. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Cerberus_e]

Damien_Azreal said:
Yeah, I'm gonna e-mail them back... but I'm gonna wait until I calm down about it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



then they'll reply:
"your second e-mail was 72 hours later than our reply, we think you are joking. closed."

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerberus_e said:

Damien_Azreal said:
Yeah, I'm gonna e-mail them back... but I'm gonna wait until I calm down about it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



then they'll reply:
"your second e-mail was 72 hours later than our reply, we think you are joking. closed."



Probably. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

I've always hated Activision.

[Damien_Azreal]

Well, CoD 2 works fine on Bon's PC.

And I'm pretty surprised on how well it handles it. I played it how it auto set, 800*600, 4xAA, Max texture detail, Dirext 7 forced.

Ran pretty damn smooth, would bog down when there was a lot of smoke on the screen though.

Dammit, I'll have to play it on that PC until a patch is issued to fix whatever problem there is. BTW, Bon's PC runs a FX 5600 Ultra.

[avatar_58]

Damien_Azreal said:
Dammit. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif I just recieved an e-mail from Activision's tech support, stating that because they haven't heard anythign out of me in over 96 hours... my problem must have been solved.
And my question is now closed.

F*CK!!

How could they hear anythign out of me? The only other e-mail I got from them was the automatic one they sne dout, and it says "Do not reply to".

This is really just past the point of totaly pissing my off. But we've discovered something at the iwnation forums.

There is a thread in the help section called "Crashin in American Campaign", or something like that. They describe the same problem.
Other people have replyed stating the same problem.

And all of em have ATi cards. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif CoD 2 was optimized for Nvidia cards. So, there is a common problem with ATi cards on some point. All they need to do is find it.

I want a patch. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



Sounds like what Ubisoft did to me http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif Do they use that annoying online form submit system? The one that looks like a forum? It sounds like it, because they "assumed" my problem was solved even after they told me nothing and wouldn't reply.

Believe me, I'm at the point where I'm very picky about what I buy from Ubisoft. I hate that kind of tech support.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Damn automated Tech support.

[avatar_58]

ZuljinRaynor said:
Damn automated Tech support.



Its worse, a rep basically told me my problem was unsolvable and there was nothing they could do. In fact, NCsoft didn't solve my problem with Guild Wars either, and basically gave up.

I hate it when they do that.....

[Fraeon Waser Duhni]

Well, I still went as far as to download the demo and it felt loads better this time around, buuut...what's with the almost total lack of physics in this game? I thought that was a given in games today (especially FPS!). Or am I just blind?

[ZuljinRaynor]

They said they rather script the deaths and not use ragdolls.

[Nessus]

I had a problem like that with an ATI x800Pro, it would lock in Painkiller so that I had to cold boot the system. I even had the power on a dedicated rail.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, everyone having this problem has an ATi card, but people using Nvidia cards are having no problems.

I can play the game great on my girl friends PC with a GeForceFX 5600 Ultra. But, I would like to be able ot play it on my PC... just makes sense ya know. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Besides, my PC has spoiled me... it looks so much prettier on mine. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[dark_angel]

It is time to get a new card D_A, at least a high end 256 MB one.

Make sure to get an Nvidia card just to avoid in the future such things http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

/me hugs my Geforce 6800GT http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, I'm thinking about it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Niap!]

I've almost finished the game, haven't had any problems like the one your having.. i'm using an ati card too, maybe its a bug specific to the x800 pro?

my specs: A64 3000+, x800xl with 1 gig DDR ram. I'm still using the catalyst 5.10's, haven't gotten around to updating to the 5.11's yet, will do that shortly.

[Damien_Azreal]

I don't have a Pro, x800 GT and I'm using 5.10.

Other people having the problem are using 9600's and 9800's and x800's. But it's not happening with everyone using ATi cards.

I've just noticed that the only people having this problem have ATi cards.

[Phait]

I downloaded the demo wth GetRight up to about 85% and resumed it today and it won't connect. Bah.

[Nessus]

Finally finnished it, best WW2 game yet. It got repitive but it was cool. The animations were top notch, the enemy always moved in groups and performed as a squad. You would see some really cool things through the sniper scope.

[Wamplet]

I was quite impressed with the demo last night and since I saw they ditched the Q3 engine this time around and Best Buy had it for 25 gold this morning, I bought it. \o

[ZuljinRaynor]

Wamplet said:
I was quite impressed with the demo last night and since I saw they ditched the Q3 engine this time around and Best Buy had it for 25 gold this morning, I bought it. \o


I bought it too. Still haven't fired it up cause my new X700 Pro is still in its box. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[8IronBob]

Saw the demo of CoD2 on XBox 360 yesterday at Wal-Mart, and thought it looked rather good. Was the PC version of CoD2 supposed to be just as impressive with the right hardware? Such as using high-end graphics and sound cards, etc...?

[ZuljinRaynor]

I dunno but I'm loving how it looks on whatever settings I got it at.

[Cerberus_e]

8IronBob said:
Saw the demo of CoD2 on XBox 360 yesterday at Wal-Mart, and thought it looked rather good. Was the PC version of CoD2 supposed to be just as impressive with the right hardware? Such as using high-end graphics and sound cards, etc...?



it looks even better on PC, of course http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[8IronBob]

Okay, I'll find that out once I upgrade my graphics card this week sometime. I'm probably gonna go after that nVidia 6600 from Circuit City this afternoon, if it's not sold out by now. The only one I saw was the 256 MB one, not too sure if they would carry the 128 MB one or not, but at least it's worth the try. Just as long as it's PCI-E, and can support HD Graphics, I'm not complaining. CoD2'll rock regardless of that.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Cerberus_e said:

8IronBob said:
Saw the demo of CoD2 on XBox 360 yesterday at Wal-Mart, and thought it looked rather good. Was the PC version of CoD2 supposed to be just as impressive with the right hardware? Such as using high-end graphics and sound cards, etc...?



it looks even better on PC, of course http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Yeah but Gamespot gave PC an 8 and 360 a 9 for graphics so the System Wars place went crazy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

My GeForce 2 CoD2 > Xbox 360 CoD2
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

8IronBob said:
Saw the demo of CoD2 on XBox 360 yesterday at Wal-Mart, and thought it looked rather good. Was the PC version of CoD2 supposed to be just as impressive with the right hardware? Such as using high-end graphics and sound cards, etc...?



I was playing CoD 2 at extra detail on my PC, and I played the 360 demo at Wal-Mart. I honestly think it's looks crisper, sharper and just better on my PC.

[FireFly]

That's strange because I've heard a lot of people say that the Xbox 360 version looks better.

I wouldn't use IQ alone as an indication of the system's power though, because the Xbox 360 version is locked at 60 FPS.

[Cerberus_e]

FireFly said:
That's strange because I've heard a lot of people say that the Xbox 360 version looks better.



which people? Xbox360 fans that don't even own a decent PC?

[FireFly]

Well for example:

"The Xbox 360 appeared to show a slight advantage over the PC with a little more detail and slightly longer draw-distances, but the differences weren't drastic or that easy to see. Like we did, you'd have to stare at them side-by-side and critically compare".

http://pc.ign.com/articles/654/654988p1.html

"The first thing to note is that even when the console game is running side by side with a top of the range PC version, outputting in as high-resolution as it can muster, the 360 version has the edge visually".

http://217.158.191.134/pma/22283

"Graphics

First off, let me just say that Call of Duty 2 on the Xbox 360 is superior to the PC version of this great game".

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1059/Call-of-Duty-2/p3/

I think the two versions are probably very, very similar, but I haven't found a single review that claimed the graphics were worse than the PC version - every time there's a comparison, the conclusion is always that the Xbox 360 version "looks just as good" as its PC counterpart.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/callofduty2/review.html

[Nessus]

^ Those guys dont know what the hell they're talking about, It looks better on the PC for sure. I saw the demo running on the 360 and to me it looked like a PC running at 1024X768 with 2xaa and 4x AF with character models at meduim. The shading and bump mapping didn't look as good on the XBOX. I have to say though' people were blown away at the store, most people have never seen a high end PC in action and these kind of graphics were a revelation.

[ZuljinRaynor]

The AA in CoD2 360 is not even there. The game plays like no AA or AF.

[8IronBob]

Well, just picked up CoD2 this afternoon, might install it tomorrow. Might as well see where all the hype is coming from.

[Damien_Azreal]

When I played the demo at Wal-Mart it looked like it was running AA, but maybe 2xAA. And it wasn't a very good form of AA.

I could still see jagged edges on the gun in my hand and team mates right next to me.

For people that can't affourd a high end PC it's a good buy, but for those of us with good PC's... it's not worth it.

[Yatta]

Damien_Azreal said:
When I played the demo at Wal-Mart it looked like it was running AA, but maybe 2xAA. And it wasn't a very good form of AA.

I could still see jagged edges on the gun in my hand and team mates right next to me.

For people that can't affourd a high end PC it's a good buy, but for those of us with good PC's... it's not worth it.


Yeah I don't know why the hell it wasn't Anti-Aliased on the 360. A launch game like that shouldn't be using too much of the processing power unless they didn't do a very good job of optimizing it. I think AF was on, though.

[avatar_58]

Nessus said:
^ Those guys dont know what the hell they're talking about, It looks better on the PC for sure. I saw the demo running on the 360 and to me it looked like a PC running at 1024X768 with 2xaa and 4x AF with character models at meduim. The shading and bump mapping didn't look as good on the XBOX. I have to say though' people were blown away at the store, most people have never seen a high end PC in action and these kind of graphics were a revelation.



SHUT UP!!!! ITS ON A TV SO IT IS TEH BETTER GRAPHIX!!111oneoneone

/fanboy

People honestly don't even know what AA or AF is so they tend not to notice. I guess having a blurry TV tends to do that, making it "look" better. I wonder how they would feel comparing an HDtv to a PC? Both would be crisp and minor details such as AA would be easy to spot.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, the Wal-Mart here has is setup on a HDTV. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif And the AA effect still looked kindof crappy. You could tell that it is using AA... but it's not consistant looking.

[FireFly]

Well the Walmart demo was running an earlier, less optimised build of the game, so perhaps there are some graphical differences as well.

The game probably just has 2xAA enabled, which is effectively free for the Xbox 360.

[Jokke_r]

was ircing in my one of my usual channels and this dude who happens to be a game dev for EA (previously on Remedy) was wondering why there was no AA in COD2 on his x360, and when he says no AA i believe no AA. He played on a HD capable projector even

[Wamplet]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27959

What is this about? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Is this just some dumbass who just can't admit there are actually good people playing out there racking up kills and can't blame lag for losing, since he is on broadband instead of dial-up?

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I played the demo and had no problems. I didnt play multiplayer, but this just seems like someone whining to me. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Cerberus_e]

yes, I just read about that on gamer.nl, and if they don't get their demands they'll stop playing http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
haha, like they are going to make a difference.

[Wamplet]

Yeah, I mean really... who gives a ***** about an online protest? This isn't an MMORPG. They already got the money from the game and less people on the servers means less bandwidth, resources required. \o

MORE PING FOR MEH!

[Orochi Avlis]

Don't you find it funny that people are expecting patches for games now?
Shouldn't we have higher expectations than this?

I know it's normal (releasing patches), but the game seems to run fine.

I find 3, maybe 4, of the 5 questions are pretenious.

[Wamplet]

Orochi Avlis said:
Don't you find it funny that people are expecting patches for games now?
Shouldn't we have higher expectations than this?


Yeah ***** hilarious.

YOU BETTAR HAVE A PATCH ON RELEASE!!!!! OR ELSEEEE

MY MIGHTY CLAN OF 60 PLAYARS WILL NOT PLAY ONLINE FOR A SPECIFIED DATE.

rol.

[Cerberus_e]

it doesn't run fine orochi avlis... ask damien_azreal about it.
but it's still like Wamplet says: they're happy that 12 gamers will protest, then the 94863 others have more bandwith!

[Orochi Avlis]

Cerberus_e said:
it doesn't run fine orochi avlis... ask damien_azreal about it.



But isn't his problems with the single player part?

[GrkFire611]

The original Call of Duty wasn't released with AC support, and no one boycotted it then.

In fact, a lot of people on the official IW forums complained about the first patch since it took out bunny hopping and made the sniper rifles harder to use.

You just can't please people nowadays. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Orochi Avlis said:

Cerberus_e said:
it doesn't run fine orochi avlis... ask damien_azreal about it.



But isn't his problems with the single player part?



Yep.

British Campaign, mission "The Beginning of the End", but it doesn't happen on my Nvidia based rig.

Only my newer, faster, much more capable ATi based rig. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[ZuljinRaynor]

My ATI rig has no trouble. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The only problem was it didn't save my progress when I beat the First 2 British Missions and the first 2 Russian ones. I was playing the 3rd British Mission and thought it saved when I quit the game. Now I don't remember if I did end process. :/

I'm loving the British missions (aside from the tank) better than CoD 1 and even UO (which was a big improvement IMO over CoD1's.) The Russian Missions are better aswell. I like it how it spawns more Allies when you need them. I hated being alone in the Russian levels in CoD 1.

Awesome game. Get's my GOTY Award. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, there are lots of people with ATi based PC's not having any problems. But the people having this problem all have ATi cards.

We just havn't found any other connection. I hvae a x800, there are a few with 9600 and 9800. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Wamplet]

Guess it's a good thing i replaced my 9800 with a 6800 \o

[Damien_Azreal]

Wamplet said:
Guess it's a good thing i replaced my 9800 with a 6800 \o



Rub it in. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[ZuljinRaynor]

Damien_Azreal said:

Wamplet said:
Guess it's a good thing i replaced my 9800 with a 6800 \o



Rub it in. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



I got a X700 and no bugs. Must love Celerons... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[avatar_58]

I finally got to see COD2 on an Xbox 360. Its VERY smooth, so thats good. Unfortunately to make it that smooth, they removed AA (its very easy to tell on the big screen I saw) and the AF is very low since most texturtes didn't look so good.

So much for review sites and their "superior" xbox version. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Its definately not bad looking, and you'd be crazy not to be wowed by it...however I think the whole "360 versions have better graphics capabilities" was just hype.

[SyntaxN]

Do you have a HDTV setup?

[avatar_58]

SyntaxN said:
Do you have a HDTV setup?



I don't own the thing, I just was able to stand right next to a TV playing it, it was LCD.

[December Man]

I've got a question I need answered:

is the multiplayer like in United Offensive with antitank weaponry, tanks, rank system with Capture the Flag and such, or is it the old online game like in Call of Duty.

[ZuljinRaynor]

The last British level is pissing me off. Grr. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Balgias]

pfft, i expected this game to put up a fight preformance wise. im getting a near solid 50-60 fps at 1024x760 dx9 render and mid-high texture details on my radeon 8500 64, lol. seriously tho, ive only gotten some framerate drops when there was about 23-40 characters on the screen at once, but then again i could tone down some of settings....

At first i couldn't help but say, where the f*** is my health bar ? i do like the new health system a bit, but it does restrict the player to have to stick with the rest of the army and makes it much harder to dash behind their lines and sabotouge them, mostly due to the weapon inacuracy or the amount of sway your weapon has when you get shot. either that or its becuase im playing on hard...

The autosave system it has is nice and saves more often than i ever would think about.

Action wise its great, pretty immersive like what ive been hearing about it.

only real thing this game has going against is how the ww2 genra is getting old, feels like ive done most of the things in this game a few hundred times before. or a combination of seen(in movies) and done before.

If your thinking about getting this game, of course always get the demo, But if your worried about preformane, i find it hard to believe something abouve my hardware will chug from start to end, im getting a great framerate at the moment, unless the game changes later on and ends chugging. the performance has been the same after about 4-5 levels.

[Nessus]

Balgias said:
only real thing this game has going against is how the ww2 genra is getting old, feels like ive done most of the things in this game a few hundred times before. or a combination of seen(in movies) and done before.





I had the exact same feeling. I felt like a battle hardened veteran soldier from the opening scene, I've been doin this for years!

[Damien_Azreal]

Okay, anybody still playing this game. ZuljinRaynor... I'm looking at you.

While your playing could you minimize to your desktop and bring up your Task Manager. Look for this...

~e5.0001

Somebody on the IWnation forums thinks this is what is causing teh crashes for some people. He said that he had the same crash at the same levels... but once he found this file he did some looking around.
He said it's some kindo fgame protection software to stop people from using hacked copies.

Once he disabled and deleted this file the game worked fine. Only problem is... if I disable it through the Task Manager the games stops as well.
Plus I can't find the actual yfile anywhere in my directory.

Anybody here have any actual idea what this file is? I'm curious if this is actualy the cause, or if this asshat is just talking bullshit.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Yeah, the file was running, a big 2MB hog. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
I dunno where it is though but it exists. I haven't had any problems though.

[Hudson]

Nessus said:

Balgias said:
only real thing this game has going against is how the ww2 genra is getting old, feels like ive done most of the things in this game a few hundred times before. or a combination of seen(in movies) and done before.





I had the exact same feeling. I felt like a battle hardened veteran soldier from the opening scene, I've been doin this for years!



I just wish someone would make a decent Vietnam war FPS. Vietcong and BF:Vietnam were the only two standout titles and the BF one isn't even single player.

[Edit]: Damien, try deleting the file and using a NOCD crack, or just the crack.

[December Man]

The release date of PoP: The Two Thrones in Poland has been moved to January 5th. So, I will be getting this one for Christmas.

[Damien_Azreal]

Call of Duty 1.01 patch is now out. It's only 5.5MB and focuses on dual core, hyper threading support and performance increases.

But thought some of you might want to know.

http://www.gamershell.com/download_11991.shtml

[Cerberus_e]

does it ***** up savegames?

[Damien_Azreal]

Cerberus_e said:
does it ***** up savegames?



Nope.

I tried it out, noticed a little bit of a performance gain, but not enough to really brag about. Then again... I didn't have a lot of performance problems to begin with.

Now, if only htey would fix the ATi/DX9 bug. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[December Man]

A patch with new multiplayer maps, Punkbuster and(hope so) a sh!tload of bugfixes is scheduled for release in early 2006. But 'early 2006' can even mean March, so don't get too excited.

[Damien_Azreal]

December Man said:
A patch with new multiplayer maps, Punkbuster and(hope so) a sh!tload of bugfixes is supposed to be released in early 2006. But 'early 2006' can even mean March, so don't get too excited.



Yeah... I've already waited 2 months. I can wait more.

[Logic Bomb]

I own the game on a 360. I don't have a 50 inch plasma screen nor do i own a high end computer to play games on nor do i even have the system hooked up via any kind of component cords. Just figured i'de say this is the nicest game i've played in a long while graphically.

Regardless of nitpicks with AA or AF (whatever the hell that is) I personally thought the game was brilliantly detailed and played smooth and crisp as hell. Loading times to a minimum and really nothing to complain about with gameplay at all.

The game is fantastic, i'm going through the game on veterin now after finishing it on normal and only have a few levels left to finish. Not terribly hard on veterin - just need to take things one step at a time.

I don't know if the PC version has acheivements but I love them to death on the 360. Every 360 game will have acheivements you can do for points and since i'm a point-aholic I'm re-doing the game on veterin and really enjoying it - something i wouldn't of done had these not been given a point value. Personally I love it, i don't really care if you think it's gimmicky but it's exactly what i've been looking for in games. I like opening up a window and seeing my score in game x is higher than my friends. I love it so much.

The game is awesome regardless of what you play it on. It was really polished which is something I love seeing in any game.

- LB

[Cerberus_e]

This is the best game I've played in a while, WW2 shooters are among the only first person shooters featuring large scale battles (my favourite kind of battle in an FPS).
I don't understand the people saying the WW2 shooter genre isn't good.

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/7001/shot01848lg.th.jpg (http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot01848lg.jpg)

The D-Day mission is the best mission so far http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Logic Bomb]

Cerberus_e said:

I don't understand the people saying the WW2 shooter genre isn't good.




There's 100 of them, most of them are of sub-par quality and no matter how many games you play the war doesn't change.

It takes a game of specific refine to bring me into a war shooter.

- LB

[Cerberus_e]

I feel the same, I only like medal of honor and call of duty.
But the fact I like these games means there is nothing wrong with the genre, but instead with the quality of most of the games within the genre http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[December Man]

Got it, played it, finished it. I think IW overdid it. Too many 'epic' battles. The quiet levels in the previous CoD actually gave a breath of something different, while after playing CoD2 my head hurts.

And MP is f*cked up nicely. Well done IW. Couldn't have done it worse.

[Decker]

The SP campaign had way too much combat in urban environments during daylight. I would've liked much more winter scenarios, rain, nigh time combat etc. That's the kind of stuff that sets the mood much better than cramming every conceivable major offensive into the game and playing violins in the background.


December Man said:And MP is f*cked up nicely. Well done IW. Couldn't have done it worse.



Explain. I mean, did you like the multiplayer in the original (COD 1, that is)?

[December Man]

Decker said:

December Man said:And MP is f*cked up nicely. Well done IW. Couldn't have done it worse.



Explain. I mean, did you like the multiplayer in the original (COD 1, that is)?



In CoD1 alone it was better. But the peek of multiplayer enjoyment came when the expansion UO came out. New types of gameplay, new(deployable) weapons, vehicles, much larger maps, sprinting. All this is GONE in CoD2. There isn't even an anticheat(!!!).
What's more, the weapons are overbalanced. SMGs are both good at short and long ranges, rifles - the same(!).
The hitboxes are messed up, sometimes you are hit in the leg, but it says it was a headshot http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
There's health regenaration and no medpacks which totally messed up the overall gameplay.
Grenade and enemy indicators? Please...

The game has been totally noobified.

Of course there are mods which add healthbars and lengthen the health regenaration up to a minute, add sprinting and disable the nade and enemy indicators, but this is not enough. I think the most important is the weapon balance - if this will be not fixed in the upcoming patch, I'm just gonna leave the game on the shelf to collect dust.

[Wamplet]

I actually loved the urban combat, which was the primary selling point for me when I played the demo.

Although, I would have loved more winter maps and others as suggested.

The multiplayer seems pretty lame though. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Decker]

December Man: I see. You know, it's funny how much subtle changes can build up. None of the alterations really bothered me, but I completely understand those who have a gripe with it.

I thought the vehicles in UO sucked big time, especially the tanks which stole the focus entirely if used. The netcode wasn't at all fit for vehicles, they weren't used in ladder matches anyway. So I'm glad they're gone. I play Battlefield 2 for massive combats, UO's engine didn't scale to that end well enough to allow anything other than casual roaming about.

Aren't the MG's still in? Can't really comment on the hitboxes as I haven't had any problems in that regard. Also had no problem with lacking medkits/health indicators but that's no problem either way, since I normally play on servers where they are in.

In fact, most of the servers where I play have:

- nade cooking
- sprint
- health packs
- NO grenade and enemy indicators

So it's pretty much up to the person who runs the server. I predict the overall situation will improve as time passes. The lack of anti-cheat support is inexcusable. One can only guess how much Infinity Ward hurt themselves by leaving out PB from the initial release. That's about to be fixed as well, though.

From planetcallofduty.com (http://www.planetcallofduty.com/)

Santa Monica, CA – Dec. 21, 2005 – Activision, Inc. (Nasdaq: ATVI) and Infinity Ward today announced plans to release new multiplayer maps as part of a Call of Duty® 2 Windows® PC update that will also include PunkBuster™ anti-cheat software and additional support enhancements. The download is currently scheduled for release in early 2006 and will be available at www.callofduty.com. (http://www.callofduty.com.)



But to each his own.

[Cerberus_e]

Why do they call grenades "potato mashers"?
Isn't it easier, simpler, and shorter to say "grenades"?
they say "potato masher run!" way too much http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif it's ridiculous.

[Wamplet]

It turns you into mashed potatoes. \o

Plus, in the tutorial, you actually threw potatoes instead of grenades. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[December Man]

Oh yeah, I've almost forgot. IW is sick. I want to add to the "overbalanced weapons" topic. They're not EVEN overbalanced.
The PPSh is a meat grinder. It can snipe from long distances and can kill half of a team being in the hands of a total n00b. Me and 5 other guys(we're NOT n00bs) we're massacred by 3(!) PPSh wielding n00bs(!!!). Someone at IW MUST DIE.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Just give me a Thompson and I'll mow anyone down.

[December Man]

ZuljinRaynor said:
Just give me a Thompson and I'll mow anyone down.



The Thompson vs. The Ultimate Commie Laser Gun(TM)? No chances bud.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Too bad it's impossible since they're both Allie weapons.
I've had more luck with the SVT-40 than the PPSh.

[Delicieuxz]

I haven't played this game in a long time. I actually quit playing during the desert levels (these ones (http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2005/297/reviews/921995_20051025_screen023.jpg))because I was finding the game to be pretty dull and of little challenge with the health regeneration.

What I'm wondering is: is there a lot more to the game after the desert levels, or is that close to the end, and what kind of levels are after them?

I'm wondering this because I was thinking about replaying COD 2 to finish it, but wouldn't be interested if there wasn't anything especially good, or better, after the desert levels.

[ZuljinRaynor]

There are some more levels in the desert and then in France. USA Maps are all France I think.

[hanged_man]

france maps are real fun ...didnt like the desert maps

[Sang]

There are some more levels in the desert and then in France. USA Maps are all France I think.

Nah there are a couple levels in Germany as well.

But while the British levels are indeed quite dull, carrying on to the USA levels is great - I totally loved the feel of those maps.

[ZuljinRaynor]

I forgot about Germany. :o

[Delicieuxz]

Ok, sounds sweet! I just reinstalled the game, it's nice to know I have something to look forward to, and the time to kill.

[Phait]

Just how replayable is the COD 1 series and COD 2?

[Syph]

COD 1 would probably feel way too dated now. But 2 I think should still be quite enjoyable. If you mean replayable in the short term then that probably varies by person, but I'd certainly play through certain levels

[Nessus]

Just how replayable is the COD 1 series and COD 2?


I just loaded COD1 on my EEE PC. I forgot how excellent it is, it doesn't feel dated at all it feels crisp and fresh, just plainer graphics. The gunplay is awesome, the pacing is great, the levels are great, the sounds are way better than COD4. There's something very satisfying to the gunplay. It's still a great game, doesn't feel old in the slightest.

[Syph]

I may have to give it a go and see how I feel about that firsthand based on that.

[d3ad connection]

Funny, I started playing this about a week ago at school. It's alot of fun :D I started the Russian and British missions.

[Damien_Azreal]

COD 1 would probably feel way too dated now. But 2 I think should still be quite enjoyable. If you mean replayable in the short term then that probably varies by person, but I'd certainly play through certain levels

Very untrue.

Even though it's a bit dated graphically, it still holds up enough to be a visually pleasing game. And the gameplay still feels top notch, as is with all Infinity Ward made CoD games.

I played through CoD and CoD:UO a few months ago, and had a blast doing it. Still found them extremely fun, frantic and exciting. :)

[Syph]

yes I plan to go through it soon and see how I feel it holds up

[Damien_Azreal]

While my post is in my own personal views and opinions, I feel that the CoD games stand to hold up very well over time. :) Much better than say the MoH games.

[TBZ]

I played United Offensive for the first time a few months ago, and I had a blast, awesome expansion that still holds up today.

[Klaus Kinski]

CoD 1 is simply a very, very high quality game. Even if it is aging visually and technically, its gameplay is forever young. I can only recommend it to anyone interested in FPSs.
CoD:UO is one of the very best expansions too, even if it were shorter. I know only one that can hold up to it and that's HL:OP4.
CoD2 is awesome as well but it suffers from its rather weak british campaign (weak compared to the other two, mind you). Other than that, it's an awesome game as well.
Everything up to part 2 of CoD is just perfect. And soon I'll be able to enjoy part 4. :)

[ZuljinRaynor]

CoD 2's Britsh campaign is heads over heels better than the American one in CoD 2. The American campaign is probably the weakest in CoD 2. It was the best in CoD and UO. Oh and I'd say UO is the best expansion ever. Even better than the awesome, Opposing Force. (Which is another example of expansion better than original) :p

UO is also as long as the normal CoD. So it's just awesome.

[Damien_Azreal]

I would say, The Russian campaign is the best in CoD2... IMO, probably the best in CoD as well.

I enjoyed parts of the American campaign in CoD2 a lot more than the British one, but overall the British campaign just didn't feel as frantic or tense as the Russian or American ones.

[ZuljinRaynor]

The British was TOO frantic in the orignal one. Pegasus Bridge is the reason why. Russian one in CoD 2 was good, but I'll take USA UO any day.

Captain Foley and Sgt. Moody were so much cooler than Price who dies in Call of Duty 1.