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Drazula
10-31-2005, 01:24 PM
http://www.news0r.com/index.php?p=2718]PS3 delayed! Not really surprised but what's up with treating Europeans like second class gamers?

Also, They claim it is a heat problem but I wonder if this has to do with the Blu-Ray standard? Did HP's request for managed copy force the PS3 delay?
avatar_58
10-31-2005, 01:26 PM
Way to hand XBox and Revolution the winner medals. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif I knew something like this would happen. Lets just hope this doesn't screw blue ray any.....

I bet all the sony exclusive games will switch to the xbox (or rev if its any good).
Cerberus_e
10-31-2005, 01:30 PM
Drazula said:
Not really surprised but what's up with treating Europeans like second class gamers?




they are improving the console even more for us, europeans http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Logic Bomb
10-31-2005, 01:37 PM
avatar_58 said:
Way to hand XBox and Revolution the winner medals. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif I knew something like this would happen. Lets just hope this doesn't screw blue ray any.....

I bet all the sony exclusive games will switch to the xbox (or rev if its any good).



Be a good gamer and buy all 3 and appreciate them for what they are. Play games in front of you. If you like games on all systems, you never worry about handing medals around.

Look at it like this: Xbox/revolution are next gen. They will have been out a year or two and will be old-hat. Then sony comes in with this next-next gen. Quite frankly i like that disparity. Just as it's getting old BAM new tech. No way PS3 is going to be less powerful than things out a year before it, it would be suicide. Although that's my take. It's probably a strategic move more than anything to come out a year later. No direct system competitors, gamers looking for something new WITH money once again to blow. It's like a fresh launch rather than a heated one.

- LB
seregrail7
10-31-2005, 01:42 PM
Logic Bomb said:Be a good gamer and buy all 3 and appreciate them for what they are. Play games in front of you. If you like games on all systems, you never worry about handing medals around.


I would if I could afford it.
Kristian Joensen
10-31-2005, 01:54 PM
This isn't comming from Sony.
avatar_58
10-31-2005, 02:00 PM
Logic Bomb said:
Be a good gamer and buy all 3 and appreciate them for what they are. Play games in front of you. If you like games on all systems, you never worry about handing medals around.




Worry? I'm just stating the obvious. Personally I don't want any of them, I have my PC and can play games like the upcoming Oblivion just fine http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

You have admit from a marketting stand point Sony is digging themselves a grave. Xbox is probably the smartest, with a holiday release.
Logic Bomb
10-31-2005, 02:04 PM
There have been many arguments about how holiday releases are not good. There are 2 sides to that argument but it's hardly marketing suicide for either company with either approach. Both have strong backings and enormous marketing budgets.

- LB
Thewho
10-31-2005, 02:05 PM
The BBC has confirmed to Eurogamer that the PS3 release date mentioned in a recent news report was in fact "speculation."

The report, which appeared on the BBC News website, caused a flurry of excitement because it included a statement that the Xbox 360 was launching "22 months before PlayStation 3."

Which would mean, of course, that the PS3 was out some time towards the end of 2007 - and not spring next year, as has previously been suggested by the likes of Ken Kutaragi himself.

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But speaking to Eurogamer earlier today, the BBC journalist who authored the report said the 22 month figure was not the product of some "inside track" with Sony - it was "just speculation."

So there you have it - you should still get your shiny new Sony console next year after all. Depending on where you live, maybe...



Http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=61477
Logic Bomb
10-31-2005, 02:08 PM
seregrail7 said:

Logic Bomb said:Be a good gamer and buy all 3 and appreciate them for what they are. Play games in front of you. If you like games on all systems, you never worry about handing medals around.


I would if I could afford it.



Get a job. 500 dollars per system means you need 1000 dollars in 1 - 2 years. You need to make 83 dollars a month to have 1000 dollars in 12 months. That's NOTHING. You need to make 30 times less than an entry level position in almost any field (30k/year). And if you don't have a job you really don't have much right complaining about affordability. Push some carts or flip some burgers for a few months, you'll have your system and a bunch of games no problem.

- LB
Duoae
10-31-2005, 02:09 PM
avatar_58 said:
You have admit from a marketting stand point Sony is digging themselves a grave. Xbox is probably the smartest, with a holiday release.



I don't know. Sony (well playstation) has an established brand. As was said, it will be a new year and people will have more money. Just as people who had PS2's bought xboxes, people who have XB360's will buy PS3. I think it actually makes more sense to not have them competing. Who knows, maybe the price will be lower if the launch date is set back a whole year...
Wamplet
10-31-2005, 02:09 PM
Rol.

No offense to the BBC, but they have all sorts of typos every day.

I don't generally keep up with the consoles, but when was the ps3 supposed to be released after the xbox? 12 months, instead of a 22? If so, that would be an easy typo.

Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if it had to do with the DVD standard or more importantly firing your entire design team. Both are laughable even if it was true. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
avatar_58
10-31-2005, 02:16 PM
Well like I said, either way neither of them interest me. They just seem like iterations of their previous gen versions. I thought next gen consoles would be something more.....but it seems like consoles have run out of things to improve on besides graphics. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

The revolution, however, is the one to watch. Nintendo seems to be the only ones doing something new instead of rehashing.

Oh well....FEAR, SS2, Oblivion, etc is what I have to "settle" for http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Logic Bomb
10-31-2005, 02:22 PM
avatar_58 said:
Well like I said, either way neither of them interest me.



Then why are you replying to a PS3/xbox based thread? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

- LB
avatar_58
10-31-2005, 02:26 PM
I can't give my two cents? The last gen didnt interest me much either and yet I took part in discussions. I'm not a fanboy or anything....if I have something to say I'll say it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Don't read it if you don't like it.

My bro is probably getting the 360 eventually, so thats probably the one I'm going to see first hand.
Logic Bomb
10-31-2005, 02:39 PM
Well do as you please, i just find it odd that people go out of their way to contribute in discussions they don't care about. Generally i pass over them but that's just me.
avatar_58
10-31-2005, 02:45 PM
Logic Bomb said:
Well do as you please, i just find it odd that people go out of their way to contribute in discussions they don't care about. Generally i pass over them but that's just me.



Well, lets see....I'm a gamer and the future of gaming is heavily influenced by consoles. Thats enough to make me talk http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif After all, many games will be developed simultaneously for these consoles and PC. That means I really should care about how good these consoles really are.

After all quite a few games could have been better if they skipped the PS2.....but instead were scaled back. This time around it seems that won't be an issue with the 360 and PS3. I do like quite a few games which are ports from these consoles so I do tend to keep on eye on developments.
DudeMiester
10-31-2005, 02:59 PM
That all sounds like BS. Firing the entire team, because of a coolent issue, LOL! BS.
Cerberus_e
10-31-2005, 03:10 PM
Logic Bomb said:
Well do as you please, i just find it odd that people go out of their way to contribute in discussions they don't care about. Generally i pass over them but that's just me.



you forgot the - LB http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Scream
10-31-2005, 03:28 PM
Looks like this is purely speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out in the future that the PS3 won't be out in 2006. Much of what you read seems to point to the conclusion that Sony isn't ready yet. It will be interesting to see how things go with the roles reversed this time, MS with the big head start, and Sony with the better hardware when it's released.
Drazula
10-31-2005, 03:31 PM
DudeMiester said:
That all sounds like BS. Firing the entire team, because of a coolent issue, LOL! BS.


Agreed... but as it states in the article there are some issues in the statement that are not public knowledge. If they don't have SDKs and PS3s in developer hands by now, what are they going to launch in May 2006?
SyntaxN
10-31-2005, 03:36 PM
Nobody knows when the PS3 is coming and that´s it!
The rest is useless speculation.
DudeMiester
10-31-2005, 03:42 PM
Drazula said:

DudeMiester said:
That all sounds like BS. Firing the entire team, because of a coolent issue, LOL! BS.


Agreed... but as it states in the article there are some issues in the statement that are not public knowledge. If they don't have SDKs and PS3s in developer hands by now, what are they going to launch in May 2006?



If that's the case, then what was Epic and Squaresoft developing on for E3? lol. Also, I've read some posting by one of the guys working on Heavenly Sword, another PS3 game, and he's never said anything about this.
Wamplet
10-31-2005, 03:54 PM
Every game system should come with a Zalman or a water cooling system powered by Evian. \o
Lain
10-31-2005, 04:01 PM
Logic Bomb said:

seregrail7 said:

Logic Bomb said:Be a good gamer and buy all 3 and appreciate them for what they are. Play games in front of you. If you like games on all systems, you never worry about handing medals around.


I would if I could afford it.



Get a job. 500 dollars per system means you need 1000 dollars in 1 - 2 years. You need to make 83 dollars a month to have 1000 dollars in 12 months. That's NOTHING. You need to make 30 times less than an entry level position in almost any field (30k/year). And if you don't have a job you really don't have much right complaining about affordability. Push some carts or flip some burgers for a few months, you'll have your system and a bunch of games no problem.

- LB



Yeah like if i were to work selling hot dogs just to own 3 Consoles, one coming from microshit, another from Nintendo and another from Sony.

Yay, i can't stop jumping....
Gryph
10-31-2005, 04:03 PM
Some hardware definitely exists like the RSX and the CELL but I don't think they've really locked down any exact specs. They may see how the XBOX 360 does and adjust accordingly. I know that Epic and id have had a chance to work on PS3 dev kits (and probably a lot more we haven't heard about) unless they lied to us which is highly unlikely.
Kristian Joensen
10-31-2005, 04:04 PM
Doesn't there exist a GCC backend for the Cell processor ?
PsychoGoatee
10-31-2005, 06:44 PM
This article does seem a bit dubious, but it is intriguing. I'd like it if PS3 hits at least 12 months after Xbox360. That'd give us gamers more time to get ready for a new launch.

Speaking of which, when is Revolution supposed to be out?
Dr. Kill
10-31-2005, 09:08 PM
"Apparently, 300 PS3 Units were created and sent to various software developers to begin creating games for the new system. However, design flaws in the PS3 (specifically, not enough coolant) caused the systems to overheat and meltdown after moderate use by the developers." He continued, "According to my DM [District Manager], Sony went and fired the entirety of the PS3 Development Team for this flaw. In short, from what I've heard, if Sony gained anything from this experience, its minor technical knowledge on what the PS3 can handle, but for the most part they were sent to square one."



I heard that 3 months ago. Heard it from the owner of a local game store. Not surprised. This is exactly what he said, too. He mentioned that due to the processor, the thing overheated. He used the word "meltdown", too. I got this info so far in advance that I didn't completely believe it. I was starting to believe it though when I heard the same from an EBGames clerk. Every time I tried to find this article, I only got ones about "Sony might delay PS3 til 07 if XBox 360 not well recieved". If they are "back to square one", I sadly have little hope for the PS3 being released. And if it is released, I don't think it'll do as good as it could have.

Sony better get their shit together if they want to survive as a console developer. After heating problems with the slim PS2 (from what I hear, and from what my friend who had one says), they should've learned something.

I (along with my uncle, and many others) think Nintendo will become a software developer, but I hate to see Sony fail, too. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif


Look at it like this: Xbox/revolution are next gen. They will have been out a year or two and will be old-hat. Then sony comes in with this next-next gen.



That's a rather false way of thinking. If the earlier consoles are automaticly "old hat", then why does the PS2 still sell more than the XBox or Game Cube?! They came out a year later, and didn't do nearly as good. The Xbox 1 was damn near a generation ahead of the PS2 graphicly, but PS2 still sold way more. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Another example: The Sega Genesis came out in 89, and the SNES came out in (guess) 92. The SNES was way superior to the Genesis graphicly, but the Genesis was still favored by many.

It's all about the games, and from what I've seen, the 360 has a pretty damn good line up.

I'll probably get PS3 also, but we will see which is truely superior. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
SyntaxN
11-01-2005, 05:14 AM
If the earlier consoles are automaticly "old hat", then why does the PS2 still sell more than the XBox or Game Cube?! They came out a year later, and didn't do nearly as good. The Xbox 1 was damn near a generation ahead of the PS2 graphicly, but PS2 still sold way more.


The PS2 simply has a much wider range of genres...
But I still like my XBox more because I´m not so interested in many different types of gameplay http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Dr. Kill
11-01-2005, 12:11 PM
SyntaxN said:
The PS2 simply has a much wider range of genres...
But I still like my XBox more because I´m not so interested in many different types of gameplay http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



I like my XBox better, too. I have lost interest in PS2 due to grainyness and especially the load times. The XBox has almost all the games I like. I'm not interested in the PS2's exclusive games, either.
Taril
11-01-2005, 12:20 PM
Good, this should give MS a big upper hand.. Then by the time Sony releases MS will beable to cut the price on the 360 major, and hurt Sony some more.. Hopefully MS will take advantage of this.. As for me, im getting a 360 and maybe a Revolution.. Will definantly not get the PS3 whenever it comes out.. Screw sony.
Jeff
11-02-2005, 12:32 AM
I'll be waiting. It's gonna be good to get back into console gaming after what has it been? Ten years or possibly 15 by the time this thing comes out.