Staff Members - How Many? [Archive]

Annihilator

11-01-2005, 01:43 PM

Hi, i'v got an interesting questios, kinda more for beginig game programmers...

1) How many staff members are working on DNF (aprox.)

2) How Many Worked on DN 3D ? (aprox.)

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif: Duke Nukem http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

EDIT: Fixed up typos in title. - ADM

trackit

11-01-2005, 01:52 PM

yeah, thats an ineresting question... how many of 3DR is working on DNF and ho many just do stuff http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

ok ok, i wount make jokes on typos http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Kristian Joensen

11-01-2005, 02:36 PM

Around 30+ on DNF.

Inanimate Carbon Rod

11-01-2005, 02:58 PM

Staff ≠ Stuff

Iggy

11-01-2005, 03:06 PM

Annihilator said:
2) How Many Worked on DN 3D ? (aprox.)

14

FireFly

11-01-2005, 03:38 PM

It was 30 after Dave Ratti was hired, then two more level designers were taken on, but one left, so that makes 31.

Kristian Joensen

11-01-2005, 04:18 PM

Who left, one of the two hired ?

FireFly

11-01-2005, 04:26 PM

You know who left - Neil Alphonso.

SyntaxN

11-01-2005, 04:39 PM

FireFly said:
You know who left - Neil Alphonso.

He left 3dr to work on Killzone for the PS3....I don´t know if I should be angry or something http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

FireFly

11-01-2005, 04:43 PM

Why be angry?

SyntaxN

11-01-2005, 04:46 PM

FireFly said:
Why be angry?

I don´t know...but working on a Killzone game (ever played Killzone?) instead of DNF http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

Kristian Joensen

11-01-2005, 04:46 PM

FireFly said:
You know who left - Neil Alphonso.

Actually, I had completely forgotten about him, why did he leave ?

FireFly

11-01-2005, 04:58 PM

http://visceralflux.net/frames.htm

SyntaxN

11-01-2005, 05:11 PM

Work has been good the last few months, I've gotten to do some more ground-up work rather than polish and I think it's some of the stronger work I've done in my career so far. The issues that have plagued the production still linger around a bit to be sure, but we're still moving forward well. And apparently we're having some contact with the gaming press for the first time in ages, we'll see what comes of that in the near future.

Part of his blog...
So, looks like 3dr still isn´t (or wasn´t) "fast" enough http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Otherwise, that must mean that they´re still very ambitious...I hope that at least =)

Kristian Joensen

11-01-2005, 05:17 PM

" Happy *way* belated holidays. 3DR and I have decided to part ways, completely professional and nothing personal, I wish those guys the best of luck and am sad to be leaving so many friends. But not much to do now except move forward. Another move is now imminent (out of Dallas though, yay!), a few locations are at the front of the runnings but it's still early."

So it sounds like a VERY amicable parting.

ultra tree 85!

11-01-2005, 06:07 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
" Happy *way* belated holidays. 3DR and I have decided to part ways, completely professional and nothing personal, I wish those guys the best of luck and am sad to be leaving so many friends. But not much to do now except move forward. Another move is now imminent (out of Dallas though, yay!), a few locations are at the front of the runnings but it's still early."

So it sounds like a VERY amicable parting.

So they now have 31 developers+4 administrative people, which is 35 for the 3D Realms total. Do the 31 developers include Scott Miller?

It's good that Neil left on positive terms.

Joe Siegler

11-01-2005, 06:23 PM

FireFly said:
It was 30 after Dave Ratti was hired, then two more level designers were taken on, but one left, so that makes 31.

I'm not gonna confirm or deny anything, as George would probably castrate me if I detailed out the entire staff.

But I'm curious to know how you guys arrived at these numbers.

Otto von Keisinger

11-01-2005, 06:42 PM

Why would that be? I honestly don't see how it could reveal anything out of the game, and it would be simple enough mention those who don't want to be detailed only by name. At the very least, I think for most of us a simple number of those who are currently working on said project would suffice.

SyntaxN

11-01-2005, 06:53 PM

Joe3DR said:
I'm not gonna confirm or deny anything, as George would probably castrate me if I detailed out the entire staff.

Sounds like he is a really nice person to work with http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Kristian Joensen

11-01-2005, 07:29 PM

Joe3DR said:

FireFly said:
It was 30 after Dave Ratti was hired, then two more level designers were taken on, but one left, so that makes 31.

I'm not gonna confirm or deny anything, as George would probably castrate me if I detailed out the entire staff.

But I'm curious to know how you guys arrived at these numbers.

Well George has given the total number of people at different occasions, the rest is just a matter of adding people which have been known to be hired and subtracting anyone known to have left. There is also the fact taht when you hire for new positions you give a number for the position as game designer you say the following about the company: "Small close-knit company (30-ish people), that focuses all our efforts on one killer title at a time". So it would seem that Firefly's number is pretty accurate.

Joe Siegler

11-01-2005, 07:54 PM

Well George has given the total number of people at different occasions

You're assuming..

1) It's accurate

2) He's not trying to mislead you. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

There's always the possibility that I'm full of it, and don't know what I'm talking about. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

avatar_58

11-01-2005, 08:18 PM

Joe3DR said:
I'm not gonna confirm or deny anything, as George would probably castrate me if I detailed out the entire staff.

Would he make you pay the medical bill for such an procedure? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

Joe Siegler

11-01-2005, 10:58 PM

Probably.

Airtraffic

11-02-2005, 01:01 AM

hell-angel

11-02-2005, 01:56 AM

Airtraffic said:

Joe3DR said:

FireFly said:
It was 30 after Dave Ratti was hired, then two more level designers were taken on, but one left, so that makes 31.

I'm not gonna confirm or deny anything, as George would probably castrate me if I detailed out the entire staff.

But I'm curious to know how you guys arrived at these numbers.

Maybe he read the Wikipedia for Duke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_Forever) it states 31 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Yeah, and wikipedia is allways right http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Serious, this has been asked about 100 times allready and all times we arive at the same conclusion. No one from 3DR is willing to confirm anything. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Cerberus_e

11-02-2005, 04:14 AM

hell-angel said:

Airtraffic said:

Joe3DR said:

FireFly said:
It was 30 after Dave Ratti was hired, then two more level designers were taken on, but one left, so that makes 31.

I'm not gonna confirm or deny anything, as George would probably castrate me if I detailed out the entire staff.

But I'm curious to know how you guys arrived at these numbers.

Maybe he read the Wikipedia for Duke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_Forever) it states 31 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Yeah, and wikipedia is allways right http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

hey! firefly made it!
yes I know, it's now correct all of a sudden in your opinion http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

FireFly

11-02-2005, 04:48 AM

Well the good Annihilator asked a question. Should we not answer him just because our numbers may be slightly out?

In December 2004 George said that there were 27 team members and 4 administrative staff, and that they were bringing on a couple more people.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=dnf&Number=725578#Post725578

That makes it up to 29. We know there's been at least one addition to this figure. So I don't think it makes much difference if you ignore the job notices. However, I was going from the previous level designer notice.

http://www.coldmilk.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6805&sid=a783264143388243c56e3d36b86b9b62

hell-angel

11-02-2005, 05:17 AM

A couple can be any number of people (up to 10 IMO). So I think they have a number between 30 and 40 people working on DNF.

Cerberus_e said:

hell-angel said:

Yeah, and wikipedia is allways right http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

hey! firefly made it!
yes I know, it's now correct all of a sudden in your opinion http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Of course, firefly is allways right. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Micki!

11-02-2005, 05:23 AM

Joe3DR said:

There's always the possibility that I'm full of it, and don't know what I'm talking about. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Possibility..?!
I thought you were like that all the time, why doubt on it..!? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

FireFly

11-02-2005, 05:26 AM

Yeah, but the level designer notice I linked to was posted in April. I doubt it took those people more than 5 months to arrive at the 3DR HQ, and I doubt George or Scott would say they had 30 people on board when they really had 37 or 38.

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 05:41 AM

But why the change from the precise 30 to the vague 30-ish ?

Perhaps they have hired people without us knowing ?

They don't necessarily have to advertise it on the net perhaps some of the developer have known someone talentend which they have hired.

FireFly

11-02-2005, 05:44 AM

Well 31 would count for 30-ish, but so would 32 or 33, yes.

Micki!

11-02-2005, 05:49 AM

FireFly said:
Well 31 would count for 30-ish, but so would 32 or 33, yes.

Is that with, or without project leaders/co-owner/supervisors..!?

FireFly

11-02-2005, 05:53 AM

Just the DNF team members - Scott isn't included. I believe George counts himself.

Micki!

11-02-2005, 06:00 AM

FireFly said:
Just the DNF team members - Scott isn't included. I believe George counts himself.

So if around 30 is the number of DNF developpers, 3DR itself might be around 40 maybe even 50 people..?! (including the DNF team of course)

FireFly

11-02-2005, 06:09 AM

George said they had 4 administrative staff. If you add Scott then that makes 5 extra people.

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 06:44 AM

But where does that leave Joe ?

Does he count as administrative staff ?

How about Kevin Green and Bryan Turner ?

If they and Joe count as "administartive staff" and the administrative staff consists of 4 people then those 4 people are: Joe Siegler, Kevin Green, Bryan Turner and Steven Blackburn.

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 07:25 AM

I received some new information, there are 32 people working at 3D Realms, that is the total number including the 4 administrative staff.

FireFly

11-02-2005, 07:28 AM

Well that's a little disappointing.

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 07:33 AM

Well actually 33 including 5 administrative staff. Why is that disappointing ?

FireFly

11-02-2005, 07:38 AM

Because that leaves only 28 developers. That's one 1 more than George's previous figure, and we know at least three new people were hired.

Annihilator

11-02-2005, 07:52 AM

1) So anyone want's to tell that 30 people are enough to make, write so powerfull product like DNF game ???
is it possible ?

2) Do anyone have any photo of all (eprox.) 3d Realms stuff members at work or whatever ?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 07:59 AM

Who works at 3DR is secret for the most part, but we do know who some of the team members are.

SyntaxN

11-02-2005, 08:06 AM

Annihilator said:

1) So anyone want's to tell that 30 people are enough to make, write so powerfull product like DNF game ???
is it possible ?

With the right tools and skills...yes http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 08:11 AM

Annihilator said:

1) So anyone want's to tell that 30 people are enough to make, write so powerfull product like DNF game ???
is it possible ?

2) Do anyone have any photo of all (eprox.) 3d Realms stuff members at work or whatever ?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

Examples of this include FEAR, Quake 4 and Doom 3.

FireFly

11-02-2005, 08:13 AM

The Gears of War team is only 25 people, although obviously they have a seperate engine team. I think the key is to hire very efficient artists.

Joe Siegler

11-02-2005, 09:16 AM

hell-angel said:Serious, this has been asked about 100 times allready and all times we arive at the same conclusion. No one from 3DR is willing to confirm anything. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

That's my point precisely. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Cerberus_e

11-02-2005, 09:24 AM

George answered those questions in the past month, and he regrets it, now Joe is trying to help George by making us hesitate again, but it won't work
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ted.jpg

ADM

11-02-2005, 09:27 AM

FireFly said:
Because that leaves only 28 developers. That's one 1 more than George's previous figure, and we know at least three new people were hired.

See that's the reason why 3DR are so strict on releasing details like this, because people automatically compare the new details to old ones and jump to conclusions.

FireFly

11-02-2005, 09:36 AM

Well, everything I've said there is fact. I just expected the figure to be a little higher, that's all.

SyntaxN

11-02-2005, 09:38 AM

ADM said:
See that's the reason why 3DR are so strict on releasing details like this, because people automatically compare the new details to old ones and jump to conclusions.

There will always be conclusions, with or without new details...
But people are speculating like mad even without facts, and speculations can become facts pretty fast as we could see it with many examples, some details here and there don´t hurt anybody imo http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

ADM

11-02-2005, 10:01 AM

FireFly said:
Well, everything I've said there is fact. I just expected the figure to be a little higher, that's all.

Nothing is a fact unless it's said by 3DR themselves, and they haven't said anything that there are actually 33 people working there.

Not too sure where Kristian got that number from.

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 10:03 AM

Charlie, so that is actual 3DR information.

Lotan

11-02-2005, 10:19 AM

And is Charlie going to be castrated?

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 10:20 AM

No.

Evil_C

11-02-2005, 02:27 PM

Joe3DR said:

Well George has given the total number of people at different occasions

You're assuming..

1) It's accurate

2) He's not trying to mislead you. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

There's always the possibility that I'm full of it, and don't know what I'm talking about. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

You left out

3) All of the people at 3DR are working on DNF exclusively.

It's possible that a few of them may be doing some preliminary work on the next big project out of 3DR.

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 02:30 PM

We DO know that the only internal game in development is DNF. However they have already got designs on the next 3rd party IP. They haven't(AFAIK) contacted the developer on that one yet.

Evil_C

11-02-2005, 02:45 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
We DO know that the only internal game in development is DNF.

We don't KNOW squat -- and George likes to keep it that way (Areal 51 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ). Besides, I did say "preliminary". They could be testing some new technologies, gameplay mechanics, conceptual artwork and that kind of thing. Of course they probably wouldn't start in earnest until after DNF ships, and after whatever patches might need to be done, and most importantly after some serious R & R.

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 02:49 PM

Actually they told us that. I agree with what you say. I am sure they are ALWAYS thinking about game design ideas, but in a more general manner. However they might well be thinking/researching gameplay ideas and stuff in the context of their next game already. But that would be the EXTREMELY early research phases.

ultra tree 85!

11-02-2005, 03:41 PM

FireFly said:
Because that leaves only 28 developers. That's one 1 more than George's previous figure, and we know at least three new people were hired.

So two people left the company, then. One of them was Neil Alphonso, but I don't know who else left. At least 3D Realms is hiring again. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

ultra tree 85!

11-02-2005, 04:01 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
Charlie, so that is actual 3DR information.

I have a question, what is Charlie's username on these forums? I really like his Duke It Out in DC levels and I'm sure he has done a lot of great work on DNF. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

33 people is a good number to have, and should go up when 3D Realms hires the level director. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 04:04 PM

NotWieder3DR. I can't tell you ANYTHING except that he is a really nice guy and you made a wrong assumption in your post.

ultra tree 85!

11-02-2005, 04:08 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
NotWieder3DR. I can't tell you ANYTHING except that he is a really nice guy and you made a wrong assumption in your post.

I've seen NotWielder3DR, but I never knew that it was Charlie. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I guess my wrong assumption had to do with my guess on the developer number.

Micki!

11-02-2005, 04:11 PM

ultra tree 85! said:

Kristian Joensen said:
NotWieder3DR. I can't tell you ANYTHING except that he is a really nice guy and you made a wrong assumption in your post.

I've seen NotWielder3DR, but I never knew that it was Charlie. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I guess my wrong assumption had to do with my guess on the developer number.

He also has a profile called Wieder3DR...

His name is Charlie Wiederhold, hence the 'Wieder'..!

Kristian Joensen

11-02-2005, 04:11 PM

I won't tell you what it is, infact I regret mentioning its existence.

Edit:
Actually on second thought you didn't make any wrong assumption in your post, I was mistaken.

SyntaxN

11-02-2005, 04:15 PM

ultra tree 85! said:

Kristian Joensen said:
NotWieder3DR. I can't tell you ANYTHING except that he is a really nice guy and you made a wrong assumption in your post.

I've seen NotWielder3DR, but I never hknew tat it was Charlie. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

He´s undercover, so don´t tell that George http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

ultra tree 85!

11-02-2005, 04:16 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
I won't tell you what it is, infact I regret mentioning its existence.

That's fine. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

ultra tree 85!

11-02-2005, 04:22 PM

Kristian Joensen said:
I won't tell you what it is, infact I regret mentioning its existence.

Edit:
Actually on second thought you didn't make any wrong assumption in your post, I was mistaken.

Okay. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

hell-angel

11-03-2005, 01:26 AM

Joe3DR said:

hell-angel said:Serious, this has been asked about 100 times allready and all times we arive at the same conclusion. No one from 3DR is willing to confirm anything. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

That's my point precisely. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Maybe we should make a sticky with questions that have been asked and will not be answered anyway. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Micki!

11-03-2005, 01:56 AM

hell-angel said:

Joe3DR said:

hell-angel said:Serious, this has been asked about 100 times allready and all times we arive at the same conclusion. No one from 3DR is willing to confirm anything. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

That's my point precisely. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Maybe we should make a sticky with questions that have been asked and will not be answered anyway. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

A FUAQ..!? (Frequently Un-Answered Questions) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

hell-angel

11-03-2005, 02:04 AM

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

Joe3DR said:

hell-angel said:Serious, this has been asked about 100 times allready and all times we arive at the same conclusion. No one from 3DR is willing to confirm anything. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

That's my point precisely. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Maybe we should make a sticky with questions that have been asked and will not be answered anyway. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

A FUAQ..!? (Frequently Un-Answered Questions) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ah, I see we allready have a name for it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Micki!

11-03-2005, 02:07 AM

hell-angel said:

Micki! said:

hell-angel said:

Joe3DR said:

hell-angel said:Serious, this has been asked about 100 times allready and all times we arive at the same conclusion. No one from 3DR is willing to confirm anything. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

That's my point precisely. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Maybe we should make a sticky with questions that have been asked and will not be answered anyway. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

A FUAQ..!? (Frequently Un-Answered Questions) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ah, I see we allready have a name for it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

That said...
LET'S USE IT!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

colmtourque

11-04-2005, 02:11 PM

Did anyone read the original question here?
1 )The answer is clearly 0 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
2) Don't know, at least 1-George

stockboy

11-04-2005, 02:19 PM

FireFly said:
The Gears of War team is only 25 people, although obviously they have a seperate engine team. I think the key is to hire very efficient artists.

25 people devoted to level design, art and animation? efficient artists are good and all, but having a solid idea and storyline is a must.

Micki!

11-04-2005, 02:48 PM

stockboy said:

FireFly said:
The Gears of War team is only 25 people, although obviously they have a seperate engine team. I think the key is to hire very efficient artists.

25 people devoted to level design, art and animation? efficient artists are good and all, but having a solid idea and storyline is a must.

They surely hav someone else doing that..!
For instance, Feng Zhu (http://www.fengzhudesign.com/clients.html) the Concept artist... He isn't a part of the 3DR staff, but he's working on concepts anyways... (Is he still working with Concepts for DNF..?!)
That's exactly the same thing with Storyline and stuff i guess...

Sayantan

11-05-2005, 12:59 AM

Micki! said:

They surely hav someone else doing that..!
For instance, Feng Zhu (http://www.fengzhudesign.com/clients.html) the Concept artist... He isn't a part of the 3DR staff, but he's working on concepts anyways... (Is he still working with Concepts for DNF..?!)
That's exactly the same thing with Storyline and stuff i guess...

Feng Zhu was hired for DNF? Now that's news for me. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Micki!

11-05-2005, 02:45 AM

Sayantan said:

Micki! said:

They surely hav someone else doing that..!
For instance, Feng Zhu (http://www.fengzhudesign.com/clients.html) the Concept artist... He isn't a part of the 3DR staff, but he's working on concepts anyways... (Is he still working with Concepts for DNF..?!)
That's exactly the same thing with Storyline and stuff i guess...

Feng Zhu was hired for DNF? Now that's news for me. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

You can see 3DR and DNF being mentioned in the 'Cleints' Section...
There have been two concepts of two 'Pig' mutant-thingy's, which we believe are from DNF...

Halford

11-05-2005, 05:13 AM

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/jobs_display.php

They hiring two more people. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

ultra tree 85!

11-05-2005, 08:26 AM

Halford said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/jobs_display.php

They hiring two more people. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

That will almost bring the number of 3D Realms employees up to what we had previously thought! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

baff

11-05-2005, 01:40 PM

Feng Zhu was hired for DNF? Now that's news for me.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Of course he is, look at Joes chair.

Sayantan

11-05-2005, 09:00 PM

Halford said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/jobs_display.php

They hiring two more people. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Maybe they thought about it after going through this thread ...... just thoughts. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

George Broussard

11-06-2005, 04:25 AM

We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

The Count

11-06-2005, 04:50 AM

Halford said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/jobs_display.php

They hiring two more people. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

"like the crashing ship level in Jedi Knight", - which game is this level from ?

And George, we`re always here to help, you know that !

Sleep well http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Lucky Boy

11-06-2005, 04:53 AM

Yes we`re always here to help ! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

Micki!

11-06-2005, 05:41 AM

George Broussard said:
more, More, MORE!!!!

Yes, we all want more...

... Not exactly the same thing as you though... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

X-Vector

11-06-2005, 05:53 AM

The Count said:
"like the crashing ship level in Jedi Knight", - which game is this level from ?

Erm, he mentions the game in that very sentence; Jedi Knight (aka Dark Forces II).

There's a walkthrough available here (http://www.jediknight.net/trail/guide.html), look for level 15.
The Falling Ship is the most unique map in the game, but Jedi Knight contains very impressive level design all around, with an emphasis on vertically orientated architecture that I don't think has been rivalled by any other game before or since.
The JK demo (http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/jediknight/jedidemo.exe.html) (level 9, Fuel Station Launch) provides a nice sampling of this particular strength.

Alive

11-06-2005, 06:41 AM

I'm here.

If only the job description were a little different. Sounds you hired a bunch of Dilberts and even want one on top. Ain't it time for another Ratbert?

Was George Dogbert or Catbert... have to figure out later.. ouh, colored pencils... See ya later!

SyntaxN

11-06-2005, 08:22 AM

George Broussard said:
We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

Should I count that as an really serious comment... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Micki!

11-06-2005, 09:11 AM

SyntaxN said:

George Broussard said:
We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

Should I count that as an really serious comment... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Yes..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> I'm serious..!http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/nosmile.gif
</td></tr></table>

ultra tree 85!

11-06-2005, 09:33 AM

George Broussard said:
We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

Yes, having more developers is a good thing. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sayantan

11-06-2005, 11:56 AM

George Broussard said:
We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

I wish I would have stuck with level designing. Though even after that I would have failed miserably to prove myself. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Best of Luck George.

Simon Charles

11-06-2005, 12:19 PM

The Count said:

Halford said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/jobs_display.php

They hiring two more people. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

"like the crashing ship level in Jedi Knight", - which game is this level from ?

Um, Jedi Knight? The 'falling ship' is known among gamers as one of the most memorable levels of the game, if not of all Star Wars games, for many reasons. Some say it's frustratingly difficult, others say it's because it's fun, other say it's because of the crazy architecture.

You're in an imperial Destroyer that's crashing down on a planet. It's memorable because it's one of the first levels in a true 3D game to pit the player on uneven, sloped floors. The ship is careening down to its doom and you have to escape before it crashes. No game had succesfully done that kind of level design before and it stuck in gamers' minds.

I absolutely loved that level, and I'm glad 3DR is looking for designers who'd be able to recreate those kinds of experiences. Hopefully DNF will contain memorable levels as well.

Tang Lung

11-06-2005, 02:53 PM

George Broussard said:
We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

I can help you out, just send me a screenshot or a copy of the game and I'll tell you what you need to improve http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Jaapio

11-07-2005, 10:16 AM

They need staff members mayby I can do this as my school project...... NOOOO! Wait, Guerrilla, killzone 2 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif
Just kidding

The Count

11-07-2005, 01:24 PM

Simon and X-Vector,

thanks for the information.
There are several Jedi Knight-games which I never got to play so I didn`t know which one the subject was http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
I`ve heard before that Dark Forces II must be quite good. Will check it out... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Kristian Joensen

11-07-2005, 03:31 PM

Kristian Joensen

11-07-2005, 03:39 PM

Halford said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/jobs_display.php

They hiring two more people. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No you are wrong. It quite clearly says that they are looking a senior designer and level designers, plural not singular. So they are looking for more than 1 level designer.

Micki!

11-07-2005, 03:47 PM

ultra tree 85!

11-07-2005, 03:56 PM

Kristian Joensen said:

Halford said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/jobs_display.php

They hiring two more people. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No you are wrong. It quite clearly says that they are looking a senior designer and level designers, plural not singular. So they are looking for more than 1 level designer.

Great! Now 3D Realms will have even more people! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
They have 33 now, so at the end of this, 3D Realms will have at least 36 developers. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif That's exactly what I thought they'd have including Scott before I found out that 33 was the number. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

FireFly

11-07-2005, 04:18 PM

I don't see the point in using that figure when it includes administrative staff.

Sayantan

11-09-2005, 06:02 AM

Kristian Joensen said:

Halford said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/jobs_display.php

They hiring two more people. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

No you are wrong. It quite clearly says that they are looking a senior designer and level designers, plural not singular. So they are looking for more than 1 level designer.

I wish Carl was here. He is very good with UnrealEd. Unfortunately he's in Gearbox now; finished working on BIA a long time back and hopefully now working on the next one.

I miss you Carl. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

hell-angel

11-10-2005, 01:22 AM

George Broussard said:
We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

Well, I am willing to help. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

macke

11-15-2005, 06:53 AM

ultra tree 85! said:
Great! Now 3D Realms will have even more people! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
They have 33 now, so at the end of this, 3D Realms will have at least 36 developers. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif That's exactly what I thought they'd have including Scott before I found out that 33 was the number. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

33? 36? Blasphemy! Should be 42, what else? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

hell-angel

11-15-2005, 07:10 AM

macke said:

ultra tree 85! said:
Great! Now 3D Realms will have even more people! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
They have 33 now, so at the end of this, 3D Realms will have at least 36 developers. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif That's exactly what I thought they'd have including Scott before I found out that 33 was the number. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

33? 36? Blasphemy! Should be 42, what else? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Well, 3DR doesn't follow the rules of the gaming industrie (i.e. releasing within 4 years http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif ) so why should they follow the laws of the universe? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Inanimate Carbon Rod

12-03-2005, 12:37 PM

George Broussard said:
We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

I'll play test for free this summer.

Micki!

12-03-2005, 01:09 PM

Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

George Broussard said:
We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

I'll play test for free this summer.

The more people the better the result i guess..!
I'm joining you..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

Altered Reality

12-03-2005, 02:25 PM

Joe3DR said:
I'm not gonna confirm or deny anything, as George would probably castrate me if I detailed out the entire staff.

Why? Does he think that "working on DNF" would be a source of bad rep for a programmer, mapper or artist, so it must not be mentioned?

Denz

12-03-2005, 05:40 PM

George Broussard said:
We just need more help. more, More, MORE!!!!

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/624/28kb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here a concept art. /o\ http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

Man, if you put this image in a poster or image on a wall, in DNF,

i could kiss you

, like teh Russian said in Max Payne 2. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Plzkthxbye. http://img.presence-pc.com/forum/images/perso/le%20bistrot%20.gif

hell-angel

12-05-2005, 01:33 AM

Altered Reality said:

Joe3DR said:
I'm not gonna confirm or deny anything, as George would probably castrate me if I detailed out the entire staff.

Why? Does he think that "working on DNF" would be a source of bad rep for a programmer, mapper or artist, so it must not be mentioned?

3DR employee Job interview:
"So, you sound like a good programmer, let's see how you work, hmm, I see you worked on DNF, so you can't finish anything right? Well, no job here for you."

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif