If there was just one weapon

[Joe Siegler]

If there was just one weapon in the game, which one would you want it to be?

Now, I must state this due to the fact that people misinterpret most anything I say. This is obviously not happening. But a smart aleck post I made elsewhere got me to thinking about the question I posted.

[FireFly]

I think I'd select an Assault Rifle, because that would provide the most balance between short and long ranges. Unless of course there's an energy weapon that does the same, perhaps with a more interesting secondary fire.

[8IronBob]

Oh, just the old faithful RPG, I'm quite sure Duke's probably gonna have the RPG back in his arsenal again. Well, that's probably TOO obvious.

Well, maybe if there was a UNIQUE weapon, if that's what you're referring to, I'd probably go with a "Laser Taser" or something (where'd THAT come from?!). However, Laser Taser's my choice, and that's what I'm sticking with. Use a laser to shock the monster, and he's a goner in a pile of ashes and blood.

[hell-angel]

Although the devastator is the most fun weapon to use imo, it might get a bit boring if used to much. And there is also the close range problem for that. So I go with the M5 type of machine gun. Most balance between fire rate, distance and personal safety.

[Kristian Joensen]

If I could have only one weapon in DNF, I guess that would have to be the ripper.

[Micki!]

In a FPS game with only one weapon, i would have chosen some sort of machinegun (assault rifle or triple barreled.. I don't care) But i would want it to be funny to use...
I think the shrinker in Duke3D is really funny to use, but it's not as effective as a machine gun would be in certain moments... (killing from a distance for instance)
If the only weapon was a assaultrifle, with a shotgun mounted on it, i would chose that... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Btw, do you mean weapons from Previous Duke games..? Or overall weapons that could be in..?

[Tang Lung]

An assault rifle, like one of the ones from CS. But it has a single shot firing mode aswell as full auto, and a scope http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Cerberus_e]

devastator with machinegun as secondary fire http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Beelze]

How about the Fan Gun? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Seriously though, I'd probably pick the shotgun. That's a weapon I will always like.

[dudetheman19]

Loved the sticky bombs from SW, just timed!

1. You can make traps
2. You can turn enemies into moving timebombs
3. Can be used for many cool oneliners like the classic "Stickybomb liking you"

[Tang Lung]

Beelze said:
Seriously though, I'd probably pick the shotgun. That's a weapon I will always like.



Hm...im conflicted now...

How about a Jackhammer...then I'd have the efficiency of the machine gun with the hilarity of the high powered shotgun.

[Gaut]

I´d pick the type of weapon like the howitzer from Blood 2
wich is like the Juggernaught from shogo for them who havnt played any of the games its a sort of rocketlauncher but the explosions are a little smaller and arrive at the target the same time you shoot.

[ADM]

8IronBob said:
Oh, just the old faithful RPG, I'm quite sure Duke's probably gonna have the RPG back in his arsenal again. Well, that's probably TOO obvious.



I concur the RPG.. complete with major smoke trails. I want the rocket to be huge.. knock Duke back abit when he fires it with a big shockwave when it hits.

Unique weapons would have to be the tripmines from Duke 3D.

[Micki!]

Tang Lung said:

Beelze said:
Seriously though, I'd probably pick the shotgun. That's a weapon I will always like.



Hm...im conflicted now...

How about a Jackhammer...then I'd have the efficiency of the machine gun with the hilarity of the high powered shotgun.



I love Shotguns for thier power, but also for the pump action... It feels so great (sometimes)
Of course i like the way the Jackhammer works, but the pump action is missing... And i'd rather have a cool pump action than some reload move as every other weapon has...

[Montykoro!]

The migthy foot !!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[big fat lazy]

Golden Deagle, assuming it has sufficient damage and range, and has a powerful feel to it. Otherwise a good ol' pump-action shotgun.

[Tim. Just Tim.]

Shotgun Shotgun Shotgun.

Not just for DNF, but for any game if there is only one weapon then shotgun

[Water12356]

Tim. Just Tim. said:
Shotgun Shotgun Shotgun.

Not just for DNF, but for any game if there is only one weapon then shotgun



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Shaam]

Assault Rifle

Normal, tranqulizer and explosive bullets.
Single and auto fire modes.
Grenade Launcher attached ( Normal, Prox and Remote ).
Snipper scope ( Normal, Night, Heat and X-Ray vision).
Attachable Silencer.
Can also be used as a melle weapon.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Zaarin]

Duke's Enourmous Tool, unlimited ammo, but overheating is a problem...

[Cerberus_e]

Joe3DR said:
If there was just one weapon in the game, which one would you want it to be?



does this thread support the mentioning of a weapon which has much alternate fire modes as there are weapons in the normal DNF? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Little Conqueror]

The nuclear pistol from the first game.

[Orochi Avlis]

big fat lazy said:
Golden Deagle, assuming it has sufficient damage and range, and has a powerful feel to it. Otherwise a good ol' pump-action shotgun.

[Big poppa]

Serious Sam II style doublebarreled shotgun.

[Van Hamies]

Freezer(?) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[mysteryperfecta]

A good argument has been made for the assault rifle. I'd go with that. Although the RPG is a close second. Or maybe this S&W 50 caliber handgun:

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/user_images/pics/1/3635000/ngbbs418812db3cf2a.jpg

[SyntaxN]

I think it would be the allrounder assault rifle, possibly with a grenade launcher attachment http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
(the shotgun might feel much cooler but you can´t use it at long distances http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif)

[stockboy]

Pipebomb

[Suppressor]

The graviton in HL 2 was a cool weapon, and, well, this is my favourite...

[8IronBob]

What was that good pistol from CS:CZ? Oh yeah, the "hand cannon" Nighthawk .50c, that was awesome! One accurate headshot, then you put your enemy to sleep for a while, I can tell you, no pistol is better than that.

[The Count]

Water12356 said:

Tim. Just Tim. said:
Shotgun Shotgun Shotgun.

Not just for DNF, but for any game if there is only one weapon then shotgun



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



In actual fact Duke himself is The Weapon.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

but he can use a shotgun and I want monsters to be pushed away at close range by its blast http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[roryok]

Montykoro! said:
The migthy foot !!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



yeah it was definitely tempting to say, but then I got thinking, what the hell could duke accomplish with only his foot? Probably more than most of us, but there's bound to be something airborne.

I suppose he could always boot a projectile at them

but ANYWAY, I think id I had to choose a weapon it would be an assault rifle with single shot/full auto modes, a torch strapped on, and an alt fire grenade launcher slung underneath with variable ammo

Failing that, an m60 with explosive rounds, and an angle grinder bayonet

[Bud Bundy]

Assault Rifle (http://www.planetduke.com/images/image.asp?/duke4/images/screenshots/pcgamer1999/10.jpg)

[trackit]

some kind of machinegun.... minigun if you will http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Micki!]

roryok said:
but there's bound to be something airborne.

I suppose he could always boot a projectile at them





*KARATEEE*
Flykick's airborne enemies... "HAAIYAA" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Or Football maybe..?!
//Kicks football
*SMACK*
And when it hits the ground:
"Touch-down..!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[roryok]

Micki! said:

roryok said:
but there's bound to be something airborne.

I suppose he could always boot a projectile at them





*KARATEEE*
Flykick's airborne enemies... "HAAIYAA" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Or Football maybe..?!
//Kicks football
*SMACK*
And when it hits the ground:
"Touch-down..!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



Could be a mod.... take out all the weapons and just leave fists and feet.

[Nacho]

Get this, a 4 barrel shotgun.

[roryok]

Nacho said:
Get this, a 4 barrel shotgun.



why stop at four? have a six barrelled one, like the worlds biggest revolver! Sort of.

[colmtourque]

Suppressor said:
The graviton in HL 2 was a cool weapon, and, well, this is my favourite...



The only thing I like about that game...

Oh...I'd have to say the shotgun just because it seems right.

[Gryph]

The shotgun. Duke's pump action shotgun with the handle rules. Also, the weapon I use most in FPS is the shotgun (if the game has it, of course).

[lonestar]

that's a hard question, since different scenarios/opponents require different weapons, but in general the shotgun is very fun and useful. mmm.. still, duke3d had so many cool weapons to offer. tough decision...

[clayasaurus]

from the original duke:

the freezer. it looks cool, bounces, and it is fun smashing the ice with your foot and watching it break like glass.

something i randomly made up:

sound blaster. breaks all breakable items nearby, pushes enemies far away and causes their head to explode if you are close enough.

[Yatta]

Joe3DR said:
If there was just one weapon in the game, which one would you want it to be?


Painkiller had only 5 or 6 weapons, but each was multifunctional. Now if DNF were to have one weapon, I'd like it to be something that works well in close range as well as far away. It should allow the player to use it as a melee weapon too.

I really liked the gun Al Pacino uses at the end of Scarface to blow the shit out of all the gangsters. It has an alternate fire (grenade launch) and it looked pretty cool when he was shooting with it. Say hello to my little friend! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4387/258b8np.jpg

[bubba]

Duke should use his wit.
After all, without that, whats the point.

He's a laugh-a-minute and would kill the enemy with laughter.

rock 'n' roll baby.

[NutWrench]

Kristian Joensen said:
If I could have only one weapon in DNF, I guess that would have to be the ripper.



Same here. There's something very satisfying about a big, loud weapon that can unload a ton of hot lead into an enemy.

[cladinshadows]

The Shrinker complete with the ability to shrink portions of brick buildings (toward the bottom) and have the rest of the bricks tumble onto an enemy http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif - or collapse portions of the building by shrinking a part of a key structural point(s), killing your enemies inside.
What would also be cool is the abiliy to shriunk your enemies weapons and then shrink him while he's defenseless.

The gun is efficient and allows you to stomp your opponents like bugs - what else could I ask for?

[ultra tree 85!]

The Devastator. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[ultra tree 85!]

Nacho said:
Get this, a 4 barrel shotgun.



Duke had a four-barreled shotgun in Duke Nukem: Advance for GBA. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Roger]

Tim. Just Tim. said:
Shotgun Shotgun Shotgun.

Not just for DNF, but for any game if there is only one weapon then shotgun



Took the words right out of my mouth.

[JackpotDen]

clayasaurus said:
from the original duke:

the freezer. it looks cool, bounces, and it is fun smashing the ice with your foot and watching it break like glass.




YES! I agree!

[Imfamous]

Prolly a tacticle rifle with the option of being used in single-shot. I loved the M1 in Medal of Honor.

[The Frederick]

For practicality, probably a machine gun or similar. For fun? A water pistol. OH THE HILARITY!

[Alien Scum]

Joe3DR said:
If there was just one weapon in the game, which one would you want it to be?




That would have to be the shotgun, in my opinion. I've played through almost all of DN3D with only the shotgun (once it's collected, of cause).


Now, I must state this due to the fact that people misinterpret most anything I say. This is obviously not happening.



(Sarcasm on) You mean we're not even going to have even a single weapon in DNF? What's he gonna do, snarl at them ... use harsh language? (Sarcasm off) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[AlienAssKicker]

<font color="red"> THE MIGHTY FOOT! </font> http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[priador]

8IronBob said:
Oh, just the old faithful RPG, I'm quite sure Duke's probably gonna have the RPG back in his arsenal again. Well, that's probably TOO obvious.





RPG!

[Michelangelo]

Mosquito Repellent - Temporarily stuns enemies but too much makes them hyperventilate and die http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Mr.Sociopath]

just one weapon heh?.. makes me think of games like judge dredd which I liked.. or bloodrayne2(except melee and chain thingy) which deceived me..

1 weapon , but multiple type of ammo can work..
but personnaly I don't like that..
judge dredd was mostly fun because of the universe, not "weapon"..

so anyway.. 1 weapon no different type of ammo?.. i'd chose a melee weapon, like a flail, or katana..nunchuks.. or swordchucks like in 8-bit theatre.. with a hell of a good melee combat system..would be fine..

but still..i guess it's supposed to be a projectile throwing weapon..
so... i,d choose either a bow(bows a cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ) or some weapon that can shoot semi automatic or big blast if you hold the trigger..
or..the shock rifle from unreal tournament would be fun..

or somekind of fan-gun..i guess.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
well.. the painkiller's first weapon would do the trick

actually..the painkiller is the best weapon i've seen since a long time.. 3drealms should steal this idea.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Steve]

If there was just one weapon


Shotgun.

[Micki!]

Alien Scum said:
... use harsh language?


Aliens Quote:
"I'll keep this handy *CLICK-CLACK* for close encounters..!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Shotgun that is...
But as i said already... A single weapon has to be effective in a range too...
To make a shotgun kill from a distance, the spread would have to be dramaticly decreased... And a shotgun is NOT a 'shotgun' if it doesn't spread...

[jimbob]

Joe3DR said:
If there was just one weapon in the game, which one would you want it to be?


damn, thats a hard decission.

i like functional weapons, because what use does a cool looking weapon have it the damage it does is insignificant.

in most games i prefer all round weapons, like far cry`s assault rifle, single shot for long range shots, burst for close.

it also leaves me space to pick up other guns, instead of a shotgun for close range and a seperate sniper rifle for longe range.

so i gues, that i would definatly want an all round rifle. if its something original then that would be fine http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

i hate weapons that fire slow moving projectiles though, like the link gun in UT2K4 and the blue thinghy gun in doom 3, i just cant hit anything with it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[dudetheman19]

YOUR HANDS!!!

1. You can beat people/monsters with them
2. You can pick anything and use it as a weapon (axes, bats, apples, cheese)
3. You can make crazy gangster signs (YEAH! Westcoast!! - that'll scare anyone http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Cerberus_e]

jimbob said:
i hate weapons that fire slow moving projectiles though, like the link gun in UT2K4 and the blue thinghy gun in doom 3, i just cant hit anything with it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



the plasma gun, I love the high pitched sound when it reloads, and the smoke it creates around the reservoir http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
but I wouldn't want it in DNF... too many games have it already where it doesn't fit, see Serious Sam 2 (they actually ditched the green dual laser gun for that weak plasma gun that does nothing special: it fires a stream of blue bolts http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif).

[FireFly]

I want a laser rifle/blaster, à la Star Wars. Why don't we see more of them in games?

[Micki!]

FireFly said:
I want a laser rifle/blaster, à la Star Wars. Why don't we see more of them in games?



Because it's a starwars weapon..!? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif
Anyways, a laser weapon would be cool, as long it's done right..! For instance, it should work like a laser, not just like a energy crossbow thingy with the same effect as a pistol..!
Lasers would in reality go right through an enemy (depending on size though) and burn through certain objects..! And hit impacts on objects (or NPC's) should react different as well..! Bullets would blow a soda-can towards sky, while a laser would burn through it (and maybe push it slightly on impact)... That's how i'd like a laser to work in games... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Jabba the Hutt]

Desert Eagle.

[Denz]

When game is out why not trying using only one weapon to re finish the game? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif Like a challenge.

[megarust]

Definitely the shotgun.

[business]

pump shotgun FTW! different shells could make it effective in different situations: like you could only carry so many 12GA. slugs but when you loaded the shotgun with one, the animation would be dukes arm pumping the shotgun one-handed and catching the regular shell in his right hand, then tossing in a different colored shell in and pumping it shut.

[Wamplet]

Dual side-mounted RPG Saddle.

[Michelangelo]

Flamethrower http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Smoke39]

Pump-action shotgun, totally. An acceptable alternative would be the twirly-cocking kind.

[jaypo90]

I'd want this:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c336/jaypo90/supergun.jpg

You know, in case you run out of ammo, you can just jab his eye with a fork.

[Poltergeist]

Well, I'd pick one of those cartoon guns that shoot out every single gun EVER, then like yeah. We're winnars and teh losarz.

[big fat lazy]

FireFly said:
I want a laser rifle/blaster, à la Star Wars. Why don't we see more of them in games?


Because they suck.

[hell-angel]

Denz said:
When game is out why not trying using only one weapon to re finish the game? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif Like a challenge.



hehe, finish the game with the mighty foot only. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[FireFly]

big fat lazy said:
Because they suck.


Why?

[roryok]

FireFly said:

big fat lazy said:
Because they suck.


Why?



who knows? its just the way of things.

[The Doctor]

Anything that has rapid fire.

[Tim. Just Tim.]

business said:
pump shotgun FTW! different shells could make it effective in different situations: like you could only carry so many 12GA. slugs but when you loaded the shotgun with one, the animation would be dukes arm pumping the shotgun one-handed and catching the regular shell in his right hand, then tossing in a different colored shell in and pumping it shut.



Yeah! Im waiting for a game that allows different shells in the shotgun. For eg a slug for the bosses, buckshot for the pigcops, bird shot for pesky small enemies like rats or bees or something.

Or to be able to screw on a different choke for when you want the shot to have a tighter radius.

[RoveR]

if there was just one weapon... i'd choose a Shotgun.

Better, a shotgun with multiple types of shells (even some invented ones) and very different terminal effects...



one of the things that i'd like to see in a FPS is cross-usage of weapons.

like shooting a pigcop with a Taser, and blow his f*****g abdomen with your Mighty Foot!

in fact, i'd really like to see in DNF a context-sensitive Mighty Foot: used to flip tables for running in cover, used to break doors (or any "weak" object in a level)used to kick enemies in a lot of different ways (like kicking a villain in the leg and make him fall, or kicking his gun away, or kicking his groin... MUHHUUHU http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

uh, and yeah, weapons must have a melee attack, different to each other's one.

[IwantMORE]

Tim. Just Tim. said:
Shotgun Shotgun Shotgun.

Not just for DNF, but for any game if there is only one weapon then shotgun



couldn't put it better http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[big fat lazy]

FireFly said:

big fat lazy said:
Because they suck.


Why?


Because they're laser guns. 98% of laser guns in games suck.

[fofo.rider]

Atomic Explodo Molar http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[SID6]

I think a little creativity is in order here.

I realize that the weapon that I am about to describe has been used (kinda) in some games, however none has done it correctly.
As a veteran gamer I have a pretty descent idea of what would be fun in a FPS.

A weapon that has two settings (in Duke terminology of course) Copy and Alter, this weapon would be able to manipulate matter or Copy it (do you see what I am getting at yet) Copying for example would work like so:If I point my targeting reticle at something in the game, lets say a Car, I would be able to use the copy function on the car and materialize that object above an enemy. with the copy function you could also store several items in the weapons memory, and when you want to materialize that item to discover secrets and bridge gaps, etc.

other things that would be fun with this weapon would be copying a hat or a sheet and materializing it in the face of an enemy to distract it or materialize a hat on an enemies head for a little comedy, Etc.

The Alter function would work by absorbing a item and being able to reconfigure its atoms to form various objects, projectiles, etc.

I realize that it is probably a programmers nightmare to code such a complex feature (I work directly with my programmers, so I have a pretty good idea), but you have to think of the benefits of the final product.

This is no joke and if you think about it enough, it has a lot of potential if executed properly in a game, and I believe would have a higher fun factor than that of your competitions weapons.

I know it is not a perfect idea, but it is what came to mind when I read this post.

I love coming up with ideas for games.

I am seeing so many FPS games that are just duplicating each others efforts and contain to little original content, although from a marketing standpoint one may go with what works, on the downside that tactic will be played out so many times that people will eventually begin to lose interest in FPS.

Instead of just duplicating or creating rough equivelents of certain types of weapons, one should examine (with rescources permitting) all past FPS hits as well as current game titles and work off of the best features of those games, if you look around in enough forums and do many google searches, you could attain a pretty good average on which features were best in what games.

You have to keep in mind that the weapon is pretty much the star of the game, it is what you are going to be using until you have completed.

It is also one of those things were you have to exclude personal favorites that could spoil the game,

I have seen (and played) your company's past works and truly believe that you are spending a good amount of time mining for creative input, which in the end will produce as you say it "The Best Game Ever"

[DrafT]

A ZF-1 should be alright.

[hell-angel]

DrafT said:
A ZF-1 should be alright.



And that is??

[Soilwork]

Just one? ..the nuke weapon George hinted at. "BOOM!!!"

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

George hinted at a nuclear weapon ? Got any quote to back that up.

[FireFly]

I believe the quote was "Boom!" or something like that.

[Micki!]

I hope he was refering to the Explodo-molar..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[lonestar]

a weapon that causes a nuclear explosion like in ut included in duke nukem forever.

george confirmes that and i pay the maintenance costs for his hummer.

[hell-angel]

lonestar said:
a weapon that causes a nuclear explosion like in ut included in duke nukem forever.

george confirmes that and i pay the maintenance costs for his hummer.



You do know that is a bold statement?? He may put that weapon in then, but you can only use it in one ultra secret place and only usable in one level. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Montykoro!]

hell-angel said:

DrafT said:
A ZF-1 should be alright.



And that is??



The weapon used by "ZORG" in the Fifth Element Movie...

Is a multi weapon plataform in one "frame" you have:

Machine gun
Poison darts
Flametrower

ETC...

(Sorry im from Argentina and my English is Awfull) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[hell-angel]

Montykoro! said:

hell-angel said:

DrafT said:
A ZF-1 should be alright.



And that is??



The weapon used by "ZORG" in the Fifth Element Movie...

Is a multi weapon plataform in one "frame" you have:

Machine gun
Poison darts
Flametrower

ETC...



I remember, Cool weapon, but doesn't that qualify as multiple weapons?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



(Sorry im from Argentina and my English is Awfull) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Not really, just an "a" to many in platform, that's a typo that can happen to the best of us. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Montykoro!]

hell-angel said:

I remember, Cool weapon, but doesn't that qualify as multiple weapons?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif





MMMM First what do you mean when you said "Multiple weapons" ??

Ex. AK-47 with grenade launcher is a "Multiple weapons"?


hell-angel said:
Not really, just an "a" to many in platform, that's a typo that can happen to the best of us. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



"Typo" is an error when you type? a mistake?

Im glad to be here.... Duke is very popular in Argentina... many of us is awating for the "WID" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Cerberus_e]

hell-angel said:


(Sorry im from Argentina and my English is Awfull) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



Not really, just an "a" to many in platform, that's a typo that can happen to the best of us. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



and "I'm" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Tim. Just Tim.]

as cool as a nuke would be, I wouldnt actually want them to be in the game unless they actually destroyed everything like a real nuke would.
A nuke going off in downtown vegas would demolish tons of buildings, throw thousands of cars into the air, burn all trees/people/anything that burns, etc etc.

I dont think the engine would be able to handle all that. We already know that the engine doesnt support fully destructive environments, and I dont think even Meqon could handle all the objects that need to go flying and burn when a nuke goes off downtown.

The only way they would put a nuke in, is if its in the middle of the desert, where the explosion calculations would be really easy - basically just need a big mushroom cloud and a flash, not too much calculations required.

[8IronBob]

Tim. Just Tim. said:
as cool as a nuke would be, I wouldnt actually want them to be in the game unless they actually destroyed everything like a real nuke would.
A nuke going off in downtown vegas would demolish tons of buildings, throw thousands of cars into the air, burn all trees/people/anything that burns, etc etc.

I dont think the engine would be able to handle all that. We already know that the engine doesnt support fully destructive environments, and I dont think even Meqon could handle all the objects that need to go flying and burn when a nuke goes off downtown.

The only way they would put a nuke in, is if its in the middle of the desert, where the explosion calculations would be really easy - basically just need a big mushroom cloud and a flash, not too much calculations required.



Uhh, then you got Lo Wang's Nuclear Warhead plug-in for his rocket launcher, did you think that Duke was gonna have one attached to his RPG or Devestator?

[Assault]

The best pick would be a gun with all types of ammo, but that would be like cheating on this thread :P

If there were one weapon, the most useful would probably be any type of semi-auto rifle with explosives as a secondary fire. It's not anything new, it’s just a basic you would need if you cant find other weapons hidden in trashcans... like in real life.

[lonestar]

hell-angel said:

lonestar said:
a weapon that causes a nuclear explosion like in ut included in duke nukem forever.

george confirmes that and i pay the maintenance costs for his hummer.



You do know that is a bold statement?? He may put that weapon in then, but you can only use it in one ultra secret place and only usable in one level. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



george says a lot of things. people should have learned some things from the past.. rite?..

(i just prey, the future will make the past look stupid, you know... )

[jaypo90]

A laser gun could work. Imagine if you could slice off limbs with it (so it'd be a constant stream as oppose to bursts of laser). Of course, it'd take some balance, otherwise you'd just stand in the middle of a room and spin around xD

[YicklePigeon]

One weapon? Ok...looking at the replies so far it looks like everybody wants an Assault Rifle...not me though!

I'd prefer something like an giant sized inflatable banana! or a Classic Star Trek Phaser Type 2 or an electronic screwdriver...

Regards,

Yickle.

[Sterko]

The shotgun is the natural prolongation of Duke's arm.

[Micki!]

YicklePigeon said:
One weapon? Ok...looking at the replies so far it looks like everybody wants an Assault Rifle...



Actually, it seems most of us wants the shotgun to be in..!

[Denz]

WTF Double Golden Duke Eagles. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[roryok]

Micki! said:

YicklePigeon said:
One weapon? Ok...looking at the replies so far it looks like everybody wants an Assault Rifle...



Actually, it seems most of us wants the shotgun to be in..!



Ok, shotgun wins.

Joe, you can pass on the message to the boys to drop the other weapons and release the game.

=)

[tony]

Some type of weapon to manipulate the physics in the game. The ultra-gravity gun in HL2 is a good example. Except, I'd like it to be even more powerful and the things I launch could cause MASSIVE bodily harm to enemies. For example, pick up a vending machine, launch at something mean, *SPLAT* *BLOODGOESEVERYWHERE*

[Ivan]

Boots.

[Micki!]

Ivan said:
Boots.



Reminds me of that one thread where we discussed about addons for the boot..! (Jet boots, mountin climber bots, long heel boots etc http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)

[Funduke]

RPG

Greetings
Funduke

[oak man]

ASSULT RIFLE/ GRENADE LAUNCHER all the way!!!

[gungriffon geona]

Gaut said:
I´d pick the type of weapon like the howitzer from Blood 2
wich is like the Juggernaught from shogo for them who havnt played any of the games its a sort of rocketlauncher but the explosions are a little smaller and arrive at the target the same time you shoot.


You mean the Bullgut rocket launcher aka "portable hell"? I do remember that thing. wish there had been a way to dual weild it, so much fun to be had there. (of course, the Bullgut MK2 from the "greased with lovin" pack more than made up for that dillema.)

Yeah, I'd like to see a weapon like that. It's always fun to just launch a crapload of missiles straight at your opponent's head and watch em' go "splodey splodey funtime!"

[Contra]

I think you should remake this except make it a poll since it is so popular http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Anyways, I'd have to say the devastator, it is one of the most kickass weapons just like Doom II's double barreled shotgun http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. The only thing it lacks is accuracy, but then again, accuracy was never a concern for duke http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[hell-angel]

Montykoro! said:

hell-angel said:

I remember, Cool weapon, but doesn't that qualify as multiple weapons?? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif





MMMM First what do you mean when you said "Multiple weapons" ??

Ex. AK-47 with grenade launcher is a "Multiple weapons"?




Touche (which means you are right and got back at me in a friendly way. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )




hell-angel said:
Not really, just an "a" to many in platform, that's a typo that can happen to the best of us. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



"Typo" is an error when you type? a mistake?




Correct. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


Contra said:
Anyways, I'd have to say the devastator, it is one of the most kickass weapons just like Doom II's double barreled shotgun http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. The only thing it lacks is accuracy, but then again, accuracy was never a concern for duke http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif



That's right, who needs accuracy when you can simply lay down a curtain of missiles. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/devilish.gif

[Montykoro!]

hell-angel said:

Touche (which means you are right and got back at me in a friendly way. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )





OK a minigun (General electric "Vulcan") I choose...




hell-angel said:

"Typo" is an error when you type? a mistake?

Correct. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif






I'm A fast learner... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

"Saludos amigos desde Argentina!"

[Gaut]

gungriffon geona said:

Gaut said:
I´d pick the type of weapon like the howitzer from Blood 2
wich is like the Juggernaught from shogo for them who havnt played any of the games its a sort of rocketlauncher but the explosions are a little smaller and arrive at the target the same time you shoot.


You mean the Bullgut rocket launcher aka "portable hell"? I do remember that thing. wish there had been a way to dual weild it, so much fun to be had there. (of course, the Bullgut MK2 from the "greased with lovin" pack more than made up for that dillema.)

Yeah, I'd like to see a weapon like that. It's always fun to just launch a crapload of missiles straight at your opponent's head and watch em' go "splodey splodey funtime!"



No i mean the one that had just one instant-arriving explosion, its like a sniperrifle with explosive ammo.
the projectile have no traveltime and explosions are smaller than rpg.

[hell-angel]

Montykoro! said:

hell-angel said:

Touche (which means you are right and got back at me in a friendly way. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )





OK a minigun (General electric "Vulcan") I choose...



And a good weapon it is sir, 5000 rounds per minute to lay down a curtain of bullets to stop your enemie. And if you buy today, I throw in 100 enemies for free to try it out. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/devilish.gif




hell-angel said:

"Typo" is an error when you type? a mistake?

Correct. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif






I'm A fast learner... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Good boy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


"Saludos amigos desde Argentina!"


Does this mean something like "greetings friends in Argentina"?

[bittercold]

Easy question.

The assault rifle from Quake 4.

That thing was ungodly.

Extandaclip, scope, nice damage, good rof, great accuracy and a flashlight...

Just make the enemies have gore like Soldier of Fortune, and it'd be allllllright.

The problem with assault rifles is that too many games make them boring to use. The sound is weak, the enemy reaction is weak, the accuracy blows, you feel like you're using a peashooter with a wobbly barrel. Quake 4 got the assault rifle RIGHT.

I do agree that shotguns are good for versatility, but if shotguns were in, I'd choose a real shotgun, like one of those semi-automatic tac shotguns that can hold about a dozen shells. Also, a shotgun with enough choke to make it effective at medium ranges, i.e. further than 10 feet. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tinyted.gif

[Montykoro!]

hell-angel said:

And a good weapon it is sir, 5000 rounds per minute to lay down a curtain of bullets to stop your enemie. And if you buy today, I throw in 100 enemies for free to try it out. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/devilish.gif





MMMM sound very nice... I can choose the enemy type? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


hell-angel said:
Good boy. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif




MUEJEUJEUEJEUEJEEUE sounds like a pupy goin in the "sandbox" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

quote]hell-angel said:
"Saludos amigos desde Argentina!"

[/QUOTE]
Does this mean something like "greetings friends in Argentina"?

[/QUOTE]

Very close is "greetings friends from Argentina"

Now on topic...

If the weapon is a "Bullet time" and you can dodge the incoming fire and stab with a knife?

Another: remember the shield from the 2001 video... mmmm I like that... running towards the enemy yelling "Freeeeedom" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Tim. Just Tim.]

I really hope theres no bullet time in DNF.

Too many games do it (MP, MP2, Matrix, FEAR, Doom3, others). And I never liked it that much to begin with. Then again, I dont even like slow motion in movies. It makes it feel cheesy and corny and cheap and crappy.

Bullet time ruins the pace of the game. In fact, it forces the whole game to be a totally different game. For example, in FEAR, the game is really hard and you pretty much have to use bullet time for every battle. Thats just a bad idea. Keep bullet time out of DNF! It doesnt belong in a fast paced game. If anything, it should have the opposite of bullet time - extra fast speed! (roids, anyone?)

[hell-angel]

Montykoro! said:
If the weapon is a "Bullet time" and you can dodge the incoming fire and stab with a knife?




Well, with 5000 RPM, the better be a really powerfull bullettime (or even timestop) or else you are still toast. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Tim. Just Tim. said:
I really hope theres no bullet time in DNF.

Too many games do it (MP, MP2, Matrix, FEAR, Doom3, others). And I never liked it that much to begin with. Then again, I dont even like slow motion in movies. It makes it feel cheesy and corny and cheap and crappy.

Bullet time ruins the pace of the game. In fact, it forces the whole game to be a totally different game. For example, in FEAR, the game is really hard and you pretty much have to use bullet time for every battle. Thats just a bad idea. Keep bullet time out of DNF! It doesnt belong in a fast paced game. If anything, it should have the opposite of bullet time - extra fast speed! (roids, anyone?)



Unfortunately most people can't handle insane speed (not even sure I can) and the difficulty (opponent strength) must be decreased trimendously (sp?) inorder for the player to actually be able to kill them. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[BabyFace]

No question - a shotgun! To me, it's just the single most satisfying weapon to nail someone to the wall with.

BTW, one of the most funny shotguns was the sawn-off one in Action Half-Life. Shoot someone from below, and the guy will take a flight to the other end of the map (more or less). Made me laugh my ass off a lot. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[KaiserSoze]

the shrinker.

best.fps.weapon.evar.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Michelangelo]

The Dukenator http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

Got to be the shotgun.

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Hands down the most personal weapons in Duke's little world. I used that damn gun more than any other. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[hell-angel]

Michelangelo said:
The Dukenator http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif




never heard of it, what does it do??

[ggvw]

The sticky bomb of course!
Why? It's pure fun! Every time I got one on an enemy it put a smile on my face. One of the reasons why I liked shadowwarrior and duke nukem so much was that it had so many original weapons.

I did not choose the shotgun because I think that it has become a standard weapon in many fps games and I like to see something else for a change.

[Micki!]

ggvw, you're new i see... Welcome to our forums... Enjoy your stay... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

As for the sticky bomb..! I've never tried Shadow Warrior, but i doubt it'll be effective as the only weapon in a FPS game... (that also counts pipebombs)
Of course they can be funny, but they have to stay effective through a whole game in every possible situation... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[gungriffon geona]

Gaut said:

gungriffon geona said:

Gaut said:
I´d pick the type of weapon like the howitzer from Blood 2
wich is like the Juggernaught from shogo for them who havnt played any of the games its a sort of rocketlauncher but the explosions are a little smaller and arrive at the target the same time you shoot.


You mean the Bullgut rocket launcher aka "portable hell"? I do remember that thing. wish there had been a way to dual weild it, so much fun to be had there. (of course, the Bullgut MK2 from the "greased with lovin" pack more than made up for that dillema.)

Yeah, I'd like to see a weapon like that. It's always fun to just launch a crapload of missiles straight at your opponent's head and watch em' go "splodey splodey funtime!"



No i mean the one that had just one instant-arriving explosion, its like a sniperrifle with explosive ammo.
the projectile have no traveltime and explosions are smaller than rpg.



Oh you mean the Red Riot? I never liked that weapon much. it took too long to fire and the blast radius was really small compared to the ammount of smoke that thing launched from a hit.

[hell-angel]

ggvw said:
The sticky bomb of course!
Why? It's pure fun! Every time I got one on an enemy it put a smile on my face. One of the reasons why I liked shadowwarrior and duke nukem so much was that it had so many original weapons.

I did not choose the shotgun because I think that it has become a standard weapon in many fps games and I like to see something else for a change.



Welcome to the forums. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Have a drink and enjoy your stay. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

As for the sticky bomb, I like it and it's fun to use but unfortunately it is not very usefull in intense close combat so I prefer a machine gun type. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[BlindCarrion]

PIPEBOMBS!!!!

"Blowed out your ass!!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[BlindCarrion]

or maybe super soak´em.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Tim. Just Tim.]

BlindCarrion said:
PIPEBOMBS!!!!

"Blowed out your ass!!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif



I think its
blow it out your ass

[BlindCarrion]

sorry http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

whatever.. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Highlag]

Acid squirt gun http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

For melting oponents to bones. Or just limbs away.

A little pump action would make gun squirt for targets farther away.

[RoveR]

what about a "sticky Grenade".. a grenade that sticks to everything you throw at, including enemies...
this kind of weapon could be used in a lot of different and funny situations:

you stick a bomb to a parked car that you push down a hill.. the car crashes near some enemies, and you push the button... bang.

think about "sticking" a bomb to an enemy, that runs away totally frightened and screaming like mad... he reaches some other buddies that were approaching you...
then you press the remote button... and BANG! all gone http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

you put a sticky bomb into a metal case (something like that).. you grab and launch it ... in mid air you "push the button" and the metal case explodes to pieces, speading razor chips all around..



well, in conclusion, i think that DNF must really give "the joy of using weapons in alternative ways"... not just shooting with a big gun (even if is fun)...

[Gaut]

gungriffon geona said:

Gaut said:

gungriffon geona said:

Gaut said:
I´d pick the type of weapon like the howitzer from Blood 2
wich is like the Juggernaught from shogo for them who havnt played any of the games its a sort of rocketlauncher but the explosions are a little smaller and arrive at the target the same time you shoot.


You mean the Bullgut rocket launcher aka "portable hell"? I do remember that thing. wish there had been a way to dual weild it, so much fun to be had there. (of course, the Bullgut MK2 from the "greased with lovin" pack more than made up for that dillema.)

Yeah, I'd like to see a weapon like that. It's always fun to just launch a crapload of missiles straight at your opponent's head and watch em' go "splodey splodey funtime!"



No i mean the one that had just one instant-arriving explosion, its like a sniperrifle with explosive ammo.
the projectile have no traveltime and explosions are smaller than rpg.



Oh you mean the Red Riot? I never liked that weapon much. it took too long to fire and the blast radius was really small compared to the ammount of smoke that thing launched from a hit.



Im sorry to say you still got it wrong http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
its the JUGGERNAUGHT as i told in the first post, the red-riot was the nukegun.

[ishak540m]

Joe3DR said:
If there was just one weapon in the game, which one would you want it to be?

Now, I must state this due to the fact that people misinterpret most anything I say. This is obviously not happening. But a smart aleck post I made elsewhere got me to thinking about the question I posted.



Haven't read completely through but did anyone say the OICW?

http://www.hkpro.com/oicwstripped.jpg http://www.hkpro.com/oicwsoldier.jpg

[Malgon]

Holy shit! I've heard of that gun before, but I've never had a good look at it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Looks menacing.

[RoveR]

ishak540m said:

Joe3DR said:
If there was just one weapon in the game, which one would you want it to be?

Now, I must state this due to the fact that people misinterpret most anything I say. This is obviously not happening. But a smart aleck post I made elsewhere got me to thinking about the question I posted.



Haven't read completely through but did anyone say the OICW?




that's a cool weapon.. but, in fact, it will probably remain a prototype (and non-existent, in a way)...

i really can't imagine Duke wielding an OICW... i think that "hunter-killer-madman" guns will suit his personality better..

like:

a big handgun (Desert Eagle .50 AE (possibly gold plated http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ))

a shotgun ( a police issue shotgun would be the best thing, cause you will probably steal shotguns from pig cops' corpses http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif )

an all-rounder Assault Rifle (a rifle with possibly a grenade launcher (not much ammo) and a compact scope (4x at most, for preventing from people only "sniping" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

a SAW (an m60 would be a cool choice (think at duke grabbing it and unleashing a full load of pain to lots of enemies, yelling like Rambo http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif )


And anything you want as a gun..

[Kalki]

Kristian Joensen said:
George hinted at a nuclear weapon ? Got any quote to back that up.


FireFly said:
I believe the quote was "Boom!" or something like that.


I think it was more like "BOOM!!". That was all GB said while quoting the original poster who asked if Duke would use nukes.

Me, I pick the assault rifle in the E3'98 video. It could take down planes! Either that or the Devastator should do the job.

[Montykoro!]

MMMM the Robocop Gun Lot's of firepower!!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Zaarin]

Montykoro! said:
MMMM the Robocop Gun Lot's of firepower!!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



Beretta 93R with barrel extension, sissy nine-millie... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[hell-angel]

Montykoro! said:
MMMM the Robocop Gun Lot's of firepower!!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif



Yeah, that's one cool weapon. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif But only if we get the Robocop targeting visor with it. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[psyborg]

Haven't read completely through but did anyone say the OICW?

http://www.hkpro.com/oicwstripped.jpg http://www.hkpro.com/oicwsoldier.jpg



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif

[Montykoro!]

mmmmmm Duke have better acurancy... robocop run under win 95 http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[baff]

Multi player Banana skin.


or <font color="yellow">an iceslide effect for the freezer ray </font> . (on the stairs)

(Or from the roof door to the edge of the skyscraper).

[baff]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/chris.bayfield/Fun_GUN%5b1%5d.jpg

not this.

[Duke Rocks]

what is that, the suicide gun??

[Magnamuz]

AAAAAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJAAA!!!....not, wait, ajajajajjaAJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! ....god.


An Assault Rifle, no need of sofistication, just sight (accurate), automatic (trustful), and granade launcher or something like that (destructive), all a man need for his wife.....oh, sorry, and aliens.

[MareviQ]

Ummm...
take something like this:

http://www.sidkit.com/vashgun_img/vgan1.jpg
http://www.sidkit.com/vashgun_img/vgunan.gif

and increase the caliber (to .50 inch, or even better, 20mm).

Edit: formatting

[Micki!]

MareviQ said:
Ummm...
take something like this:

http://www.sidkit.com/vashgun_img/vgan1.jpg
http://www.sidkit.com/vashgun_img/vgunan.gif

and increase the caliber (to .50 inch, or even better, 20mm).

Edit: formatting



WHOAH!!! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/love.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
The suicide-gun made me laugh btw... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Odin]

I'd have a proton gun. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nethodus]

Potato gun

cept throughout some missions you could get pop cans from machines and use them for ammunition..or other stuff..whatever will fit in it.

[Gibaholic]

The gun I would choose would be all of the guns combined into one gun, either that or a magic genie who grants me wishes so I can wish for more then one weapon or wish every monster was dead.

[Contra]

wish that every monster were dead? Ooh boy sounds like some fun game, "Hey, why shoot these aliens with my machine gun, or smash thier brains out with my shrinker and mighty boot, heck or even blow their brains out with this rpg, when I can just "WISH" them all dead >_>

Anyways, for the most balanced in gameplay, gotta go with machine gun (ripper), but for complete alien ass kicking, the Devastator all the way!

[Gibaholic]

See, heres the thing. I can wish them all back too. I personally would prefer to wish to become asexual and make an army of my self and kill all the aliens with my army.

[Gatinater]

I'd have to say a tactical rifle or carbine, because as someone said before it has the best balance. Between versatility and power. Plus you could take a shotgun with a short barel remove the butt and attach it to the underside of the rifle. The two best shoulder weapons in the world combined into one.

I'd go with a benelli Super 90 or Remington 11-87 or even the best gas shotgun ever made.. The Beretta 1201 tactical. Have which ever one you choose converted or customized to take a removable box magazine feed. So that way you could reload it fast.

In games I guess the OICW would be fine, but it has proven to be a piece of crap, because it's so bulky. It's fine for an observer, but it's a horrible fighting gun. Besides Herstal beat Heckler & Kock to the punch with Fabrique National's model 2000. I don't who designed it. If it was Fabrique, Browning or some other designer outside of Herstal. I don't care either.

[Gibaholic]

These are some good choices, but in all seriousness id use this dandy thingamajigger called the spritemattic. Utilizing graphic converting technology this weapon will turn 3d aliens into 2d sprites rendering them obsolete. I dont know how this would kill them but id still use it.

[RedSplat]

The Holy Handgrenade of Antioch.

[Daedolon]

Something reliable and non-automatic, with lots of balls and a smooth animations. Like the revolver MareviQ posted (isn't it Vash's gun, from Trigun).

I've always hated automatic weapons in games, they are boring to use. Games should be about having fun, not just getting to the end of the level alive.

[Blade Nightflame]

I could sprite better weapons than that with my butt, FFS. >>;

[Deicide]

Even if that not really fit with the DNF universe, i suggest the Auto Assault-12 Shotgun with FRAG-12 High-Explosive Round Combo Weapon System (http://www.defensereview.com/article741.html). Or ... The hand-ported automatic grenade launcher CZW 40 (http://czechweapons.com/topics.php?aTopicId=4&pk_aId=2)

[Gatinater]

Daedolon said:
Something reliable and non-automatic, with lots of balls and a smooth animations. Like the revolver MareviQ posted (isn't it Vash's gun, from Trigun).

I've always hated automatic weapons in games, they are boring to use. Games should be about having fun, not just getting to the end of the level alive.



Without any automatic guns it would be a cowboy game. The only thing we would have would be revolvers and repeating long guns (lever, pump & bolt action). In a gun fight those weapons suck.

[RoveR]

Gatinater said:

Daedolon said:
Something reliable and non-automatic, with lots of balls and a smooth animations. Like the revolver MareviQ posted (isn't it Vash's gun, from Trigun).

I've always hated automatic weapons in games, they are boring to use. Games should be about having fun, not just getting to the end of the level alive.



Without any automatic guns it would be a cowboy game. The only thing we would have would be revolvers and repeating long guns (lever, pump & bolt action). In a gun fight those weapons suck.




Man, i've got to disagree on a part of your post.

I think that semiauto guns and pumpshotguns must not be the main type of guns you're going to use in DNF... but i think that these weapons really didn't suck at all!

just as a reminder of how a pump action shotgun can be effective (and cool looking and working) look at the one from F.E.A.R. In fact, i'm using that weapon for a lot of gunfights, because i love it really a lot (it is a joy to shred clones into pieces, really http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif )...

Sure that tastes are tastes... but i will prefer to have a good sounding-animated-shooting-killing shotgun instead of toying a "common" (in a certain degree) assault rifle...

And i still think that a big revolver would definitely kick away lots of weapons, speaking of "global impact" (look and feel, you know)...


My two (better three) cents http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Denz]

RIPPER.

[baff]

Revolver vs Automatic,

I'm going with Revolver, automatic has been done too many times.

The Revolver in Serious Sam and Halflife is excellent fun.

I don't really see Duke Nukem as your John Woo dual Beretta wielding whirling dervish of ninja Gun Fu.

More of a "make my day punk" kind of a geezer.

Autopistols with crossover firing animations and sexy reloads such as the space marines dual wielded Brownings in Aliens Vs Predator are still very good.

Equally I would be pleased to see that monster revolver animated with the hammer action and being able to spin the chambers up after a reload with a speed loader, or maybe playing Russian Roulette with only 1 bullet in idle animations or cut scenes.

I think a big calibre pistol has more opportunity for colaterol damage and a big revolver is easier to associate with large calibre than an automatic in my fantasies.

On the downside for revolvers is the ammunition count. I used to enjoy getting the pistol out and shooting every vase, bottle, window etc.

[Judas]

The double barreled shotgun

[Denz]

baff said:
Revolver vs Automatic,

I'm going with Revolver, automatic has been done too many times.

The Revolver in Serious Sam and Halflife is excellent fun.

I don't really see Duke Nukem as your John Woo dual Beretta wielding whirling dervish of ninja Gun Fu.

More of a "make my day punk" kind of a geezer.

Autopistols with crossover firing animations and sexy reloads such as the space marines dual wielded Brownings in Aliens Vs Predator are still very good.

Equally I would be pleased to see that monster revolver animated with the hammer action and being able to spin the chambers up after a reload with a speed loader, or maybe playing Russian Roulette with only 1 bullet in idle animations or cut scenes.

I think a big calibre pistol has more opportunity for colaterol damage and a big revolver is easier to associate with large calibre than an automatic in my fantasies.

On the downside for revolvers is the ammunition count. I used to enjoy getting the pistol out and shooting every vase, bottle, window etc.




GDE, Golden Duke Eagles.

[Gibaholic]

Judas said:
The double barreled shotgun



Or super shotgun if your old school.

[Denz]

Why not something new?

[Roger]

MareviQ said:
Ummm...
take something like this:



[u]That</u> is a f*cking revolver.

[Reaper]

If I could have only one weapon, it'd have to be an original one. Some kind of sniper rifle/pistol, possibly.

The OICW? I guess it can do zoom, but the controls for it in SOF2 were absolutely ***** terrible. It shouldn't take me scoping in, switching to grenade function, going down to "lase" then adjusting the range (four possible steps - selecting "range+", using that function, then selecting "range-" if necessary and using it). I mean, scoping, grenades that explode after a certain distance, (or whatever the OICW does) built-in night vision, and fully auto rifleage in one package is pretty kickass, but at least make it easier to use all those functions. I would have been thankful for all those functions to be wrapped up in the change firing mode key, with the exception of the zooming and grenades. Perhaps the zooming would be secondary fire, and the grenades would be fired via the grenade key (seeing as you couldn't feasibly toss a grenade when using two hands to operate that beast anyways).

Speaking of grenades, I want them to actually go off in multiplayer if a player has primed them, but died before tossing them. I hated the fact that many games will show the priming animation, but your killer won't die if he's close, because the 'nade won't even go off due to the lack of programming of the priming. I also hated the fact that the original UT RL would load up on rockets, but if you were killed, they wouldn't be released from the chambers.

Rule of thumb: If something has to charge up, or set a timer, and that has happened, then any player that dies should release that charge/detonate the grenade/what have you when they die (or the time elapses). Also, I would like grenades that you can cook for different times (ie changing the time whenever you feel like it).

I really liked being able to lob grenades as well as just toss them in SOF2, as well as be able to prime and then drop them in XIII, and finally having a dedicated 'nade function in Halo, and I think all of those combined would be a grand slam.

As a side note about sniping: I would think a lean function should be included, if only for multiplayer sniping, as it is often important to be concealed if you are going to snipe. And no CS AWP like gayness. The only way to an insta-kill is through the skull.

Another thing that SOF2 did well was having the "use+strafe left/right" combo equate to leaning, although it sucked that there was a "use+crouch" combo on top of that which equated to going prone, and if there was a body underneath you while you held the use key, you'd slowly pick it up and get your ass beat.

[The King of Ogres]

If i could just have one weapon it would be a Double Barrel Shotgun, or maybe just a shotgun would be ok.

[bodomite]

the foot.... to kick the enemys this way the game will be almost impossably hard and therefore no one will complain about it being easy and almost no one will ever beat it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

god im a sick bastardo hehe :-P

[MareviQ]

Daedolon said:
Something reliable and non-automatic, with lots of balls and a smooth animations. Like the revolver MareviQ posted (isn't it Vash's gun, from Trigun).



Yup, it's Vash's gun from trigun. But what i had in mind is i'd like a gun that you could see, and FEEL it's powerfull. Think like this: compare the Quake 3 BFG and Quake 2 BFG. Quake 3 gave you a quick mean killing machine. But it didn't feel like one. The one from Quake 2 DID. And that's the point. What I'd want is a gun that would match Dukes personality. Meaning extreme power, at the expense of quickness and that stuff. Desert Eagle, anti-tank rifle. These don't NEED to be automatic. Couse you won't need to shoot twice at the same enemy. That is the kind of gun that fit duke perfectly.

i just remembered that Jackall from Hellsing would also fit perfectly:

http://www.advfilms.co.uk/titles/hellsing/images/recon/weapons/sheet17.jpg
http://www.poseidon.co.jp/5F/jackal/g_j_10.jpg

[chitown]

Have talking about what you want to fans want see in DNF so much killed any of you guys anticipation for the game? The DNF vibe for me is starting to wan, I get this feeling that if this game ever comes out it will not be able to live up to the hype that has been created around it.

[Reaper]

I've lost my interest in the forums, but I am still hyped, and have been since '98, or at least '99.