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Guest
04-27-1999, 04:21 PM
I discovered this cheat when I was about 6-8. That was only about 4 or 5 years ago, i'm 11 now. Anyway, to get past a hard level, kill yourself, and before you drop off the screen, save. Then go back and re-load your game. You will bounce again. Repeat until you get to the edge of a level, and you will exit. DON'T do this on levels where the objective is to get something (i.e. Sandwich, Hook). Also, if you can, die where there is a long line of spikes or slime. Then you will keep bouncing for longer.
Guest
04-27-1999, 09:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>You get to the edge of a level, and you will exit.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I recently discovered this on the level of Keen6 where you have to save Molly. I didn't know this at the time. I was going in circles in the area with the four doors. At one part I would enter an invisible-like door and I would end up at the edge of the level and it would exit. I really don't know why it does this. Maybe it's a bug. I just wanted to mention that I am impressed with you that you actually made a program using BASIC. (or whatever you use)Especially at your age. I am 13 and don't even know how to program. Do you know where I can get some helpful things on VB. I atleast want to try.
[This message has been edited by Samus (edited 04-27-99).]
Delphi Dude
04-28-1999, 01:15 AM
Some words of advice.
Ditch Visual Basic.
Get something like C++ Builder or Delphi. They're the superior development tools.
Guest
04-28-1999, 06:55 AM
I've got C++. I hate windows programming in it. It takes about 15 mins. to build a window with nothing on it.
Oh, and Samus: goto www.vb-world.com.
Got lots and lots of tutorials.
Guest
04-28-1999, 06:57 AM
I'm making Commander Keen Studio in Visual Basic and it's going great! KMO was made in VB5. I use VB6.
X-human
04-28-1999, 03:52 PM
WTF do I do with a *.zoo file I have for Wolf3d and CKeen that's sappose the hack it??
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Guest
04-28-1999, 04:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Oh, and Samus: goto www.vb-world.com.
Got lots and lots of tutorials.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Where was the part "I haven't been there in awhile.". I can't access the site. It gives me an error. Are you sure you got the address right? http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/blush.gif
Guest
04-28-1999, 05:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Where was the part "I haven't been there in awhile.". I can't access the site. It gives me an error. Are you sure you got the address right?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Oopsy Daisy. It's 'www.vb-world.net'.
Guest
04-28-1999, 07:50 PM
Delphi Dude,
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Some words of advice. Ditch Visual Basic. Get something like C++ Builder or Delphi. They're the superior development tools.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
SAY WHAT?
As a Computer Programmer/Systems Analyst for over 21 years, I'd say that you shouldn't just "DITCH" some programming language without proper investigation to determine your programming needs for a particular project.
Each Programming Language has its own inheritant strengths and weaknesses.
Yes, Delphi is a nice programming language, but I wouldn't THROW AWAY Assembly Language and ONLY use Delphi for EVERY programming task or system that I would ever write in the future.
A properly placed assembly routine can dramatically speed up Graphics. For examples see "Zen of Graphics Programming by Michael Abrash" or the Source Code for Descent 1.
See Source code to Castle Wolfenstein that uses Assembly Code to check to see if the Processor Chip on your PC is up to the minimum Requirements for the game to run.
Currently use several programming languages for many many differing projects. QuickBasic, Visual Basic, Assembly, and a 4GL language called "Magic" that allows you to make Windows based programs and applications in much less time than even Delphi can do.
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P. S. No matter what programming language you decide to use, DON'T FORGET to document what each routine in your programs do. That way you can easily remember what everything is just by reading the comments!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Happy Gaming!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Guest
04-29-1999, 02:04 AM
Well, yeah, I'll agree with that last part on documenting all functions of a program, I've done that to a few programs, makes it take a lot longer to finish the program though http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/grin.gif. But I think that using a language for RAD (that's rapid application developemnt for the... what's the word... oh well, I'll get back to my point) is kinda foolish because you'll learn how to write horrible code. That's what's making the bastard big-business companies flourish, here's the steps to how they get money:
1) People make a poorly-written program, it runs slow on your computer
2) You need a faster computer to run it at a reasonable speed
3) Since it's poorly written, it probably takes up a lot of HD space
4) You want to send a save file to a friend over the internet
5) It takes forever! Time to get a faster modem!
6) Return to step 1.
It's just a loop, call me crazy, but you'll realize that it's true, and I don't know too many people who enjoy wasting their money.
Use C++ or Assembly, definately not VB though, and this seems like a good time to tell everyone to get Lynux, one good source is to go to www.redhat.com (http://www.redhat.com) .
Delphi Dude
04-29-1999, 03:10 PM
Visual Basic :
ON ERROR GOTO, RESUME, RESUME NEXT being used for exception handling ? Shudder.
Microsoft only recently discovered that a REAL compiler might be a good idea.
Technology wise, it's way behind anything else on the market. VB 6 can make WebServerApplications ? Did that 18 months earlier with Delphi 3 C/S.
Now tell me, whatever reason can one have to use VB ? What are the advantages ?
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