He wants us to finish him... !

[Denz]

http://www.3drealms.com/images/banners/bannerhire.gif



So who is up to it? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Ivan]

Cool, did you do that animation?

[Kristian Joensen]

Nope. (http://www.3drealms.com/info.html)

[Kev_Hectic]

This is the one that I currently see, does it rotate through through different banners? Edit: I guess so.

http://www.3drealms.com/images/banners/bannergetsome.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Apperently.

[Ivan]

Well I think this (http://www.3drealms.com/images/banners/) is the directory with all the banners.

[Yatta]

Haha, that's awesome! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Wamplet]

Pretty catchy ad.

[Imfamous]

The way they say "finish" sure makes you wonder if the game is near completion.

[Wamplet]

Imfamous said:
The way they say "finish" sure makes you wonder if the game is near completion.



Heh, expect the unexpected. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Needle]

So why do they put job banners on their own web page? One would think a simple "jobs" button to the left would be far more helpful.

Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.

[Halcyon]

Needle said:
Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.

Indeed. I like it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Denz]

It's uncommon and it's good.

[George Broussard]

Needle said:
So why do they put job banners on their own web page? One would think a simple "jobs" button to the left would be far more helpful.

Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.


No real reason. This was faster. I suppose we really should do a button as well. Cover all bases.

We really, really, really need a new site design.

[Ivan]

George Broussard said:
We really, really, really need a new site design.



That would be cool! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Denz]

George Broussard said:








Merry Christmas. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/bigsmile.gif

[Tim. Just Tim.]

everytime i see 3dr hiring a new guy for DNF i die a little inside, just because it shows that the game is still a long way off.

oh well http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

merry xmas though!

[Cerberus_e]

What are all you guys talking about? I can't see anything http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Ivan]

Cerberus_e said:
What are all you guys talking about? I can't see anything http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



It's a .gif in the first post, may take time to load.

[Gibaholic]

Eh, that sounds kinda weird to me "..help finish me" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif

[Sayantan]

George Broussard said:
We really, really, really need a new site design.



But please keep the forum design as it is. I really like this look. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[big fat lazy]

Gibaholic said:
Eh, that sounds kinda weird to me "..help finish me" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif


It's not like he said "help me climax" or anything.

[Micki!]

big fat lazy said:

Gibaholic said:
Eh, that sounds kinda weird to me "..help finish me" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mryuck.gif


It's not like he said "help me climax" or anything.


It could be worse..!
"Help doing me..!" http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

[dudetheman19]

George Broussard said:

Needle said:
So why do they put job banners on their own web page? One would think a simple "jobs" button to the left would be far more helpful.

Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.


No real reason. This was faster. I suppose we really should do a button as well. Cover all bases.

We really, really, really need a new site design.



Isnt Joe responsible for that?

[Denz]

dudetheman19 said:

George Broussard said:

Needle said:
So why do they put job banners on their own web page? One would think a simple "jobs" button to the left would be far more helpful.

Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.


No real reason. This was faster. I suppose we really should do a button as well. Cover all bases.

We really, really, really need a new site design.



Isnt Joe responsible for that?





They said they will change when DNF will be here.

[Simon Charles]

George Broussard said:

Needle said:
So why do they put job banners on their own web page? One would think a simple "jobs" button to the left would be far more helpful.

Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.


No real reason. This was faster. I suppose we really should do a button as well. Cover all bases.

We really, really, really need a new site design.



Voilà.

[Cerberus_e]

Ivan said:

Cerberus_e said:
What are all you guys talking about? I can't see anything http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



It's a .gif in the first post, may take time to load.



It doesn't load at all.
Probably because I'm over my monthly download limit.

[DK2000]

It doesn't load at all.
Probably because I'm over my monthly download limit.



So you cant see the screenshot they built into that gif? Too bad for you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Here is my cheap mspaint version:

[Micki!]

Simon Charles said:

George Broussard said:

Needle said:
So why do they put job banners on their own web page? One would think a simple "jobs" button to the left would be far more helpful.

Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.


No real reason. This was faster. I suppose we really should do a button as well. Cover all bases.

We really, really, really need a new site design.



Voilà.



Haha..! I actually like that one..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[ShepMode]

George Broussard said:

Needle said:
So why do they put job banners on their own web page? One would think a simple "jobs" button to the left would be far more helpful.

Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.


No real reason. This was faster. I suppose we really should do a button as well. Cover all bases.

We really, really, really need a new site design.



I like the site design. It has some minor technical issues but other than that - there's no problem with it.

[Zaarin]

DK2000, are you somewhat frustrated? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[shiranui]

Tim. Just Tim. said:
everytime i see 3dr hiring a new guy for DNF i die a little inside, just because it shows that the game is still a long way off.




I hear you, man. Particularly as the current position advertised is Senior Designer........ http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[DK2000]

Zaarin said:
DK2000, are you somewhat frustrated? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Just because of the pic and my avatar? Naaaa http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I just find the "finish him" expression so catchy *g*
Sure I would love to see duke finished before my x800 pro and my AMD 64 3000+ don't even meet the game's req. ... especially as a poor student. But I let 3DR any time they need to get duke done as good as possible.
If duke will never see my hardware it is perhaps just not meant to be http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

And by hardware I mean my PC-stuff not my Cheney http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[baff]

shiranui said:

I hear you, man. Particularly as the current position advertised is Senior Designer........ http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



I see myself more as a cleaner.

[Micki!]

baff said:

shiranui said:

I hear you, man. Particularly as the current position advertised is Senior Designer........ http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



I see myself more as a cleaner.



They don't need this atm i think...
George has been thier "Shit-filter" in many years now... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif

[Murder]

Here's my lame ass paint Duke Reloaded pick


http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=metrix8ir.jpg

[Micki!]

Murder said:
Here's my lame ass paint Duke Reloaded pick


http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=metrix8ir.jpg



All those black clothes, make it seem like he's just a floating head... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Dr. Holliday]

George Broussard said:
We really, really, really need a new site design.



Fire Joe and hire me!

No? Um okay...have a site redesign contest where the winner gets a sneak peak of Duke. Of course, it would be at your office...and the winner has to pay for his own way to get there! And the winner would also have to be patted down for cameras, recording devices, etc by Joe. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Hmmm, okay on second thought a T-Shirt would be fine....but I'd prefer ya just hire me.

[Murder]

Micki! said:

Murder said:
Here's my lame ass paint Duke Reloaded pick


http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=metrix8ir.jpg



All those black clothes, make it seem like he's just a floating head... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Now that u mention it... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

lol, i made Duke look like a LostSoul from Doom http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Tea Monster]

I think that they are close. As soon as Prey has been on the shelves for a few weeks, we should see some more (read: ANY) activity on the Duke scene. Just hope that Mr. Carmack or the Unreal team don't make any announcements before then!!

Then again, I said that before the releases of both Doom 3 and UT Whatever, so feel free to either ignore or heckle. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[mysteryperfecta]

George Broussard said:
We really, really, really need a new site design.



That reminds me-- Joe hasn't hit us with the flowery forum in a while. Maybe that's the design GB prefers.

[mysteryperfecta]

George Broussard said:
We really, really, really need a new site design.



Joe replies: "WID."

Really, GB should stick to not designing games, and let Joe alone to not design webpages. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Damien_Azreal]

mysteryperfecta said:

George Broussard said:
We really, really, really need a new site design.



That reminds me-- Joe hasn't hit us with the flowery forum in a while. Maybe that's the design GB prefers.



Flower Forum!!

[Delicieuxz]

I'm for it.

[Joe Siegler]

ShepMode said:

George Broussard said:

Needle said:
So why do they put job banners on their own web page? One would think a simple "jobs" button to the left would be far more helpful.

Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.


No real reason. This was faster. I suppose we really should do a button as well. Cover all bases.

We really, really, really need a new site design.



I like the site design. It has some minor technical issues but other than that - there's no problem with it.



There's nothing wrong with it, but it's coming on five years old or so. It's time for a revamp. But it's not the highest priority, either.


mysteryperfecta said:

George Broussard said:
We really, really, really need a new site design.



That reminds me-- Joe hasn't hit us with the flowery forum in a while. Maybe that's the design GB prefers.



The reason I haven't done that is because UBBThreads isn't capable of what I did with Classic to fake out just one section of the forums with that.

If you're really lonely for the flower theme, you can visit the old UBB.Classic URL. It's still there (http://forums.3drealms.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi). I never deleted it, just closed it and left it that way - it doesn't take up much space, so I left it there for old time's sake, and just in case I needed the live data for a test or something.

[Reaper]

George Broussard said:

Needle said:
So why do they put job banners on their own web page? One would think a simple "jobs" button to the left would be far more helpful.

Heh, guess it's just cooler this way.


No real reason. This was faster. I suppose we really should do a button as well. Cover all bases.

We really, really, really need a new site design.


Ha. I'm sure the fans could get one together before Joe could say, "I'm on it!"

[Sayantan]

The flowery theme is really cute. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Micki!]

Sayantan said:
The flowery theme is really cute. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



That Jeopardy background music is extremely catchy..! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

[Jezza]

I've been away a while, but I will say this and risk making an ass of myself, and since he doesn't seem to be around at the mo...

Did you consider Gideon for this job? Why haven't you hired him yet!?!

[Kristian Joensen]

Gideon, almost got a Job at 3DR once, but he failed to show up for the interview or something.

[Micki!]

Kristian Joensen said:
Gideon, almost got a Job at 3DR once, but he failed to show up for the interview or something.



I believe it was something with him decided to leave it, as he couldn't get there in time so i guess you're right... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
He didn't really mind if i remember correctly tohugh..)

[The Cacodemon]

WTF

http://www.3drealms.com/news/2006/01/are_you_a_programmer.html

[George Broussard]

We're looking to hire a number of people to help us get done. Don't panic. See it as a good thing. We simply need more people.

[Kalki]

Trying to get it done by this year, eh George? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

George what do you mean by "making room" for people ?

[Kalki]

KJ's referring to this post (http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=11401325):


We kind of are, too. I'll be posting more job ads soon, but feel free to send over anything. Spots are usually open, and room can be made.

[George Broussard]

Kalki said:
Trying to get it done by this year, eh George? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


Just trying to get *done*.

Hiring people is tiring and very hard right now. Every developer out there is ramping up big time for next gen games with next gen visuals, and huge teams, and it's very very hard for anyone to hire enough people that they need.

Just look at the job ads on the Gamasutra site.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/jobs_display.php3

[mysteryperfecta]

I sympathize with you, GB. The curious thing is, you mentioned a while back that one of the early stumbling blocks was trying to do too much with too few. Yet this is the first time I've seen what amounts to an open call for personnel of every stripe. Now, in 2006, there's still a significant understaffing issue?

I'm making no judgements here. I don't envy the responsibility of finding what the employee "sweet spot" is (or might become), considering that the process involves much stress and effort on both sides of the hire. You can't purposely hire too many, and then wittle down to the correct number, knowing that a hire usually involves relocating someone, et al.

As a project lead and a person, are you a really strong-minded, determined person? Or has the development become some surreal out-of-body experience that you're numb to? Or do you feel a tremendous amount of daily stress? Or have you given in to the warm embrace of insanity?

[Kalki]

Here's one of GB's responses (http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=11401381) in the job-hire threads at the shack (props to KJ for the links):


We've always had some bottlenecks. As some have gotten fixed, it's exposed others. We're just in full production and trying to get done, so we see areas we need more help in.

Bear in mind we're a fairly small team (28 or so) compared to the 50-75 you see at big publishers. Doing a next-gen game with a team that size is rough at times.



Restaffing at this "juncture" may seem like much but within a year we'll be thankful for every successful hire he's making right now.

[mysteryperfecta]

Kalki said:
Restaffing at this "juncture" may seem like much but within a year we'll be thankful for every successful hire he's making right now.



GB is trying to finish the game. If that means new hires, then hire away. My point is, they were a small team years ago when understaffing was discovered to be a bottleneck. Now, three years after the restart, after "lessons learned", it sounds like they need to increase their team by 20-30%, the biggest increase yet. That seems a little different to me than "seeing a need, fixing a need, seeing a need, etc". Unless, of course, there's just a backlog of unfilled openings that have piled up, which is possible. Maybe they haven't been able to fill the vacancies they've advertised for over the past couple years (although I've heard of new hires).

[X-Vector]

Personnel flow isn't one-way; who knows how many people have left over the years.

[Kristian Joensen]

Not nearly as many as you not, probably not more than at say Id.

[X-Vector]

Is that an Enigma encoded message?

[Kalki]

mysteryperfecta said:
GB is trying to finish the game. If that means new hires, then hire away. My point is, they were a small team years ago when understaffing was discovered to be a bottleneck. Now, three years after the restart, after "lessons learned", it sounds like they need to increase their team by 20-30%, the biggest increase yet. That seems a little different to me than "seeing a need, fixing a need, seeing a need, etc".



They have about 28 employees working and I'm sure they have tasks delegated all around for each facet of the game. Some new work areas may have opened up with the latest features which may be drawn from fresh concepts or evolved from existing features, both likely given the expanding scope of a game in development. Also as every employee is given a list of tasks to be performed, they may have looked at the longer lists and decided to alleviate the workload by spreading it out to new hires.


Unless, of course, there's just a backlog of unfilled openings that have piled up, which is possible. Maybe they haven't been able to fill the vacancies they've advertised for over the past couple years (although I've heard of new hires).



That's another possibility.

[mysteryperfecta]

Well, I wish them the best. They seem to have some good people, and I haven't been disappointed in anything I've seen yet, media-wise.

[Denz]

Gaming industry needs more programmers, game designer and other job classes related to game industry? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Gideon]

Micki! said:

Kristian Joensen said:
Gideon, almost got a Job at 3DR once, but he failed to show up for the interview or something.



I believe it was something with him decided to leave it, as he couldn't get there in time so i guess you're right... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/redface.gif
He didn't really mind if i remember correctly tohugh..)



I got lost 666 miles from home. lol

[Kristian Joensen]

Hehe, how about applying again ?

[Gideon]

Done... Keep fingers crossed, pray, prey, or whatever brings me luck.

ROOT 4 ME! I need all the help I can get. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Ivan]

Gideon said:
Done... Keep fingers crossed, pray, prey, or whatever brings me luck.

ROOT 4 ME! I need all the help I can get. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/woot.gif

Good luck dude! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kristian Joensen]

Gideon said:
Done... Keep fingers crossed, pray, prey, or whatever brings me luck.

ROOT 4 ME! I need all the help I can get. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Cool, good luck.

What did you apply as ?

Game designer ?

Level Designer ?

[Kalki]

Gideon said:
Done... Keep fingers crossed, pray, prey, or whatever brings me luck.

ROOT 4 ME! I need all the help I can get. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



PM me your home address and I'll go over Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/) and figure out the driving directions and optimal route to get to 3DRealms HQ.

[Gideon]

lol... I was fine till I got to 635. It'll be o.k. don't worry. I was actually about a block and a half from 3DR last time, but getting lost in Dallas is pretty freaky when you're used to driving on dirt roads.

[polypusher]

"Help finish me.."

I took it to mean he wanted me to put him out of his misery, like Old Yeller.

But seriously, shouldn't Senior Designer be brought in at the begining of a development cycle?

Unless you aren't out of pre-production... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[LeadBullet]

Maybe their current senior designer plans to take off after DNF is done or near the end of the project when his work isn't really needed anymore and he wants to move on, and they want to replace him for the end of the DNF development and into whatever their next game is, who knows.

[Gideon]

Did it ever occur to any of you that the designer may have been hired to design one of the many arcade games available INSIDE DNF?

[Kristian Joensen]

It seems to me that people are misunderstanding the "senior" part. There is nothing about the job description in that job ad that precludes such a person from beeing hired late in the process.

Also the reason they haven't been looking to fill this position earlier could very well be that it hasn't been needed now or perhaps rather that they haven't perceived the need to fill it until now.

George already gave us the general reason for these hires:


We're looking to hire a number of people to help us get done. Don't panic. See it as a good thing. We simply need more people.



The specifics of the game designer position are still unknown, but they fall under the above general reason.

[Halcyon]

Gideon said:
Done... Keep fingers crossed, pray, prey, or whatever brings me luck.

ROOT 4 ME! I need all the help I can get. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Good luck, man! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[roryok]

How bout this?

http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uglydukeling7ku.jpg

I bent my browser!

[Denz]

Gideon said:




Are you Game Designer/ Level Designer?

[ultra tree 85!]

Gideon said:
Done... Keep fingers crossed, pray, prey, or whatever brings me luck.

ROOT 4 ME! I need all the help I can get. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Good Luck! http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Boinky]

DK2000 said:
So you cant see the screenshot they built into that gif? Too bad for you http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Here is my cheap mspaint version:




haha, thats what I was thinkin when I saw the GIF as well.. Damn me for being so late! I was going to post a MK joke for it, but you win *bows*

[Micki!]

Gideon said:

ROOT 4 ME! I need all the help I can get. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Maybe a powerfull kick in the right direction..!
So: North, South, East, West, Which direction are you going..? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

//Puts on army boots http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif

Seriously, i hope you get it done next time... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Gideon]

Denz said:

Are you Game Designer/ Level Designer?



I mainly model high and low poly props and texture them.

[Duke Rocks]

I don't think Gideon has much to worry about. In fact, I think it would be pretty nasty of 3DR NOT to hire him this time around considering the fact that he was hired already(but couldn't make it).

[Gideon]

Duke Rocks said:
I don't think Gideon has much to worry about. In fact, I think it would be pretty nasty of 3DR NOT to hire him this time around considering the fact that he was hired already(but couldn't make it).



On the contrary, if anything it would be harder for me to get hired again. Once in a lifetime, maybe.... Twice in a lifetime.... that's one hell of a longshot. But hey... Ya never know.

[Seraph]

I'm personally rooting for you, G.

[KaiserSoze]

Gideon said:

Duke Rocks said:
I don't think Gideon has much to worry about. In fact, I think it would be pretty nasty of 3DR NOT to hire him this time around considering the fact that he was hired already(but couldn't make it).



On the contrary, if anything it would be harder for me to get hired again. Once in a lifetime, maybe.... Twice in a lifetime.... that's one hell of a longshot. But hey... Ya never know.



i'm rooting for you also gideon. it sounds like you've been upfront about your initial decision not to pursue the job. as long as you didn't burn any bridges with 3dr(and again it doesn't appear you did) i don't see why they wouldn't re-hire you. besides, 3dr has "started over" a few times themselves. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

your work would probably fit in nicely with helping them get things speeded up. (sounds like they're ramping up now with trying to get to the finish line imho).

maybe once you get to dallas this time somebody from 3dr can meet you half way or something so you don't get lost or overwhelmed.

good luck. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif