World of Warcraft.

[Jeff]

Just had a thought to make a WoW discussion thread for those of us who play the game. I'm sure there are some here who play, and would like to contribute to this thread.

My main character is a level 35 gnome mage with 241 herbalism, 250 alchemy, and 219 first aid. I play on Kalecgos under the name Magnetite. I'm really looking forward to getting to level 40 and getting my mount. Already have the 80 gold and counting saved up (currently 95 g), so I just need to hit level 40. Can't wait. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kronx]

I played for a good bit. I had a 60 warrior and 60 rogue. One was alliance, and one was horde. I had a few other alts, but nothing past level 33ish.

I thought WoW was pretty awesome up til level 60. Once I hit 60, it was pretty hard to get my small, casual guild to do the kind of content I needed to do to get weapon upgrades.

Eventually, I took a new job working nights, so I couldn't do anything with my buddies at all. That left me nothing to do but farm cash or play another alt, so I decided to try something else.

Still, I don't regret my 1,000+ hours of playtime. I just regret that it had to end. Enjoy WoW!

[Jeff]

I'm going to be soloing it to level 60. Does any experienced guys like Kronx have any advice on the subject (ways to get mad XP and stuff like that). I usually did a level a day, but some can do 5 levels a day. There are these sites, which can have you a 60 character within 5 days, but my brother hints at those being worked by laborers in poorer countries. You pay $300 US, and 5 days later, you'll see your level 60 all ready to go. Gold and epic gear. o/

[Opus131]

Heh, level 60 is when the game started for me.

I too was part of a casual, mature guild, but during the course of the game i made friends with a few people from bigger guilds and every now and then i got invited to their raids.

I used to be one of the best paladins on my server, and was able to main tank pretty much every instance that didn't require a raid of 40.

My favored part of the game was doing instances with a party of 5. I loved the way each class interacted with the other, it was like playing an RPG version of Starcraft.

Alas, after a while i had to quit because the game was starting to take way too much time out of my life.

All in all i was quite impressed with this game, possibly Blizzard's best since Starcraft itself...

[Jeff]

I'm planning to keep my mage when I hit level 60. Not going to start another character, because that's like 3-6 months of work down the drain.

[Kronx]

I highly recommend not soloing all the way to 60. You'll find life easier if you group and run instances. First off, they're fun. Second, you'll be much more valuable as a player when you hit 60. Third, you'll have contacts.

Instances are good XP, plus you'll get better gear than you will if you solo.

When you hit 60, you're going to find a quest log full of wuests marked elite, dungeon and raid. You won't be able to solo any of these. That's actually good, because you shouldn't have too much trouble finding a group.

Gnomeregan, Uldaman, Blackrock Depths, Sunken Temple... these are all good warm-ups for the higher instances.

Believe me it's better to make your n00b mistakes in the early levels. When you hit 60, you'll find folks don't have a lot of patience for mistakes. You need to learn things like aggro control and how to compliment the other classes in your group.

[laffer]

My brother has been level 60 for months and he's raiding all the time. Looks pretty cool to be 40 people in the same instance. He's in the Non Phixion guild on Shattered Hand (in Europe).

[Jeff]

Could I take on Scarlet Monestary at level 35? I'm almost at 36 (7 bars). Part of it at least. Can't do the middle parts or the final boss.

[laffer]

If you go with some higher level people, that should work. If you're in a group of only lvl 35 people, then it will be hard http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Sailboat]

I play WoW, maybe a little too much...
First character ever is a 58 Shaman, some reason never got him to 60, probably because my buddy on that server quit.
Second is now a lvl 60 Priest, started her first on a different realm and decided Priests suck for solo'ing... didn't get her to 60 until much after my very first lvl 60.
After being fed up with the weak Priest, I rolled a Mage. First toon I got to 60, and the first toon I really learned what WoW is about.
My most recent toon is a 34 Rogue, man they are the perfect farmers... which is how I play him too. Any Mage I see and I am heading out to quest or whatever, they get the tell, "You make the eat ok" gotta love them chinese farmers!

With my Mage and Priest I run Molten Core usually 3-5 times a week, depending on the guild's schedule. I too feel like I didn't really experience much of what WoW has to offer until I hit 60.

A word of advice, if you play WoW and don't have a 60 if you feel the need to stop playing DO IT!
I am forever stuck with palying WoW cause it is so damn much fun!
The expansion is going to be the end of me...

[DudeMiester]

I always hear about the problems with servers in WoW, but you think that with Blizzard pulling in damn near $1 billion US per year with it, they could afford the best servers there are!

[Synti]

I have a 60 warrior on Kul'Tiras and 40 druid and a 40 warlock on Venture Co and Defias. And some other 20-30 alts all around. Luckily my guild is really concentrated on the end-game instances and stuff like that. So we have Molten Core run twice a week, Onyxia once a week and Zul Gurub once a week. So if you are up for all of those, you really got something to do all the time. We overall have very nice gear on our guys. Mostly epic MC drops. We have about 70 level 60 guys. We moved to Kul'Tiras from Silvermoon where we were pretty big and famous. We had a pretty strong reputation as a really nice and friendly guild. And one of our officers was ranking at first place in the Battleground PvP list.

Oh yeah, and our main tank was able to get <font color="orange"> Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker </font> last week. http://www.thottbot.com/?i=40513

Haven't played in a week because I got a new HD and haven't had the time to install the game yet. It's such a project because you have to download each and every patch all over again. At least that's how it was the last time. Maybe they have finally made like one big beginner patch that will just patch the freshly installed game to the right level.

[seregrail7]

I played until LVL30, but I'm on dial-up and leveling up was starting to take too long on my own. It was crappy not being able to do the bigger raids.
That and I got a phone bill for €300. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
Still, 150 hours well spent.

[zilppuri]

DudeMiester said:
I always hear about the problems with servers in WoW, but you think that with Blizzard pulling in damn near $1 billion US per year with it, they could afford the best servers there are!



Really? You mean there is constantly someone near you complaining about server problems? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Did someone here complain about it? Or have you perhaps tried it yourself? Did you ALWAYS have someone complaining there?

I haven't had nearly at all server problems with WoW. I guess people who complain are those can't cope 5 minute shut down after they have been playing week in a row http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ok, the weekly maintanence takes about 7 hours (atleast in europe) but it's from 5AM to 12AM or something on wednesday so it hardly matters.

Then again I am not one of those hardcore players. I only have one character that I have been playing for 6 months now. And I'm now lvl43.

[seregrail7]

There were times when server problems got too much for me. Sometimes they'd go down for hours, other times they'd only be down a few minutes. But there was a time when most evenings the server would go down, which was when most people would play.

[Fraeon Waser Duhni]

seregrail7 said:
I played until LVL30, but I'm on dial-up and leveling up was starting to take too long on my own. It was crappy not being able to do the bigger raids.
That and I got a phone bill for €300. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
Still, 150 hours well spent.



Er...raids are level 55+ material. Do you mean instances or what?

(or you could mean town raids, which makes my computer drop its framerate to 5 fps when it usually runs at a smooth 60fps)

[seregrail7]

Yeah, town raids. I took part in some smaller ones, but soon enough all the new quests I could do were around Hillsbrad, so my latency went through the roof in that area.

[Jeff]

My friend wants me to get to level 40 sometime in the next couple weeks, because then he and I can go on small raids into places like Crossroads. He was a level 45 at the time, and killed everyone in the town, except for civilians and the wind rider master.

I'm thinking because I'm close to level 36, that I keep going through Scarlet Monastery and level that way, instead of doing quests. It's fast XP if done in a group instance. I'm too high for Gnomeregan (well most of it), so Scarlet is the next place I can go.

I'm kind of a big time money maker in our guild, and there's always people asking me for it. I usually tell them to go read General KB's Guide to making money in WoW in the professions forums on the main site. I had 15 gold at level 20. Now 95 gold at level 35. Read that post, and you'll make more money then most people in your guild.

[laffer]

I hope you like grinding for gear.. when you're level 60, the entire game revolves around that.

[Jeff]

I've ground from 33 to 35 pretty much. I usually did a level every 3 hours. Would doing instances make it go quicker?

[laffer]

Yes, if you get a good group and don't get wiped too much http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[C2S]

About WOW... can you buy 1 game for the household, and then create two 'accounts', so that two players would be using the purchased time?

My brother bought the game and is playing atm, and I guess I could at least give it a try, too.

[Jeff]

Nope. One account per computer. Same with the piracy thing. See, for billing purposes, it must be on one computer...When your 30 days is up, just add a 60 day game card to it like I do every month. I should hit level 60 by February or March.

[C2S]

Well, we both have our own computers, but if I understood correctly, that's not the point.

So, if I wanted to play it on my computer too (within the same household, if that matters), would it be necessary for me to purchase another copy of the game + create an account with that copy, and/or would I need to buy time for myself? One account per purchased game, right?

No way I'm going to purchase anything though - neither another copy of the game nor playing time... just curious.

[Jeff]

One account per machine, as I've understood it. You may want to post on Blizzard's site and ask, and I'm not totally sure on that.

[C2S]

One account / machine would make sense to me.

Ok, I'll look into this tomorrow... cheers.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Why would they limit one account per machine? that is silly and un true.

[Burfid]

I haven't even played it and even I thought 1 account per machine sounded weird...especially since I've seen it being played at PC places and I doubt they would put it on the computers if only 1 of their customers could play it.

I'm probably going to buy it when I get my new computer sometime next month. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Jeff]

Maybe that's one game copy per machine. That would make sense. I would technically run multiple accounts on one machine when my brother comes over to work on his level 55 human paladin.

[8IronBob]

Just bought WOW this afternoon. May install it before I hit the sack, or I may install it after church tomorrow. Not too sure when it's gonna be done, but I'm gonna get myself started. It should be interesting, I can guarantee you.

[laffer]

Machines have nothing to do with it. A friend of mine is currently borrowing my account and playing it on his PC. All you need to play is an account, it doesn't matter at all on which PC you are playing http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Jeff]

8IronBob said:
Just bought WOW this afternoon. May install it before I hit the sack, or I may install it after church tomorrow. Not too sure when it's gonna be done, but I'm gonna get myself started. It should be interesting, I can guarantee you.



Prepare to set aside about 3-6 months to get to level 60. I've had my gnome since November, and I'm 5 levels away from getting my mechanostrider mount. I'm drooling over which one to get. I think I'll get a red one.

[Kronx]

If you have the game installed on a PC, you can login as anyone and play their account, but you can't start a new account unless you have a new game-key (which you get when you buy the game).

[laffer]

If anyone wants to test it out, PM me and you can borrow my account (but not until about two weeks from now and you'll have to pay for a month or so yourself as it will not have any playtime left).
But it's better to just buy the game really as you'll lose the character you're making when you give me the account back (unless you want to buy the entire game from me then, I have the collectors edition too so I don't really need it anymore).
And this offer is only for forum regulars, if I don't trust you, you can't borrow it http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Jeff]

There are places out there where you can buy characters from other people. Blizzard doesn't like this, but some people seem to think it'll save them 3-6 months of playing the game. You don't actually learn to play the game if you don't do it yourself all the way to level 60.

I'm learning this the hard way, because of work, my friend used to be around my level, and now he's level 49 with his hunter (the friend who killed everthing in that town I spoke of), and I'm still at 35. That said, we used to quest together, but he's too far ahead, that he likes to do his own thing. There are people lower than my level in our guild who ask me to level them, but I feel the same way. I'd like to get to level 60 someday, not help some guy get from level 10 to where I'm at, then start working on my guy. Even getting someone from level 29 to 35 seems a bit much, at a level a day, it's a waste. Me and my hunter friend are the highest level members in the guild, next to a level 29. The rest of them are from 5 to 20 for the most part.

[laffer]

Going up to level 40 something is pretty fast, but then it starts to slow down a LOT! In fact, I hate that last part, I think it's so slow it gets real boring.

[C2S]

If you have the game installed on a PC, you can login as anyone and play their account, but you can't start a new account unless you have a new game-key (which you get when you buy the game).


One account per game copy then. Well how about... can you develop multiple characters using a single account? And can two players play the same account online, simultaneously? If yes, I believe that would do the trick in my case. (But somehow I doubt it) http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[laffer]

You can have as many characters as you want on each account, but you cannot play on the same account at the same time (of course http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif).

[C2S]

Yeah, that occured to me too when I thought about it more... in that case, a bunch of friends could probably just buy one game and share the single account with a number characters, or something like that. Ah well.

[Night Hacker]

Good idea, I just got done watching a VERY KEWL video. This may be old news to some WoW vetrans but I am new...

This is from the text explaining the video...



This is not made by me but it is one of the greatest moments in World of Warcraft where some brave individuals managed to do the unthinkeable.
All credits go to the makers of this video.
...
Lord Kazzak is lured into Stormwind by the enemies and destroys Stormwind within 1.5 hours.
After this event the server is resetted and a rollback was performed by Blizzard.
...
Lord Kazzak must be killed within 3 minutes or else it will turn into an invincible monster.
For every kill it will get so many HP that it can't be beaten by anyone.
Luring him into Stormwind, basically destoryed Stormwind.




http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-982380251124231965&q=World+of+Warcraft

I didn't realize Google had this video feature... but this video rocks, good music to it as well.

[Synti]

C2S said:
Yeah, that occured to me too when I thought about it more... in that case, a bunch of friends could probably just buy one game and share the single account with a number characters, or something like that. Ah well.



Yup, but there comes the problem that the friends can't play at the same time. And due to the addictive nature of the game, that would be a problem.

Me and my brother are sharing an account. It's working pretty well, but as we both are 60 and our guilds do a lot of end-game instances it needs some planning. Like he has MC every monday and thursday, I have every tuesday and friday. On wednesday I think he has Onyxia and I have Zul Gurub. That is just up for an argument who plays on wednesdays. On sunday I have Onyxia but I don't think he has anything. On saturdays he has the occasional Zul Gurub.

So yeah, if possible...just buy your own account. It's pretty frustrating sharing it with someone else.

[Nacho]

Any suggestions on how to get gold quick? I want my mount since I'm almost lvl 40. I'm a skinner and leatherworker and I'm a Warrior tauren with 29g.

[peoplessi]

Any suggestions on how to get gold quick? I want my mount since I'm almost lvl 40. I'm a skinner and leatherworker and I'm a Warrior tauren with 29g.

Sell leather in auctions, effective way. You get more money that way than making anything usefull with leatherworking. Intances are a good way too, and you get gear too from there, if not usefull just sell it to vendor or again auction it.

[Dogy]

Tauren Warrior huh? You might as well stop playing now, otherwise you'll find yourself not getting ANY raids at all. If you're a DPS Warrior, good luck even trying to get into a raid. When I was playing, DPS Warriors are considered to be the lowest priority of all DPS classes because we can't heal ourselves without the aid of pots or bandages. On top of that, if you try to PvP without a healbot, you WILL get screwed and CCed to death. Oh yeah, if you want to tank, you'll be set in a line to get geared up, and trust me, it DOES take 4+ months to get even 5 pieces of Might (Our Tier 1). I only got my belt after like 3 months of going to every MC on every Friday. This was my dude: http://ctprofiles.net/2962874

That's why I'm drooling over WAR (Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning) so damn much. The melee will now actually be able to trample on everyone and everything and CCs will now be either short and very powerful and long but weak.

EDIT: But of course, my experiences was on one of the oldest US servers, Bloodhoof. It will change server to server.

[Wamplet]

From grouphug:


http://grouphug.us/confessions/943097983


I fantasize about my guild leader.

:o

[Foxy]

Any suggestions on how to get gold quick? I want my mount since I'm almost lvl 40. I'm a skinner and leatherworker and I'm a Warrior tauren with 29g.

Most important: Play the AH. Scalp the rich high-levels and alts with mroe time than money.

Sell First Aid books for a big markup (Look at how much other scalpers charge). People can't be arsed to go get these from the vendor. Cooking books too.

Sell green/blue patterns that are on limited supply rotation from vendors. People with too much money/little knowledge will snap these up thinking that they're drops. Mark them up HIGH. I would buy blues for 20s and sell for 3g. They sold well. If someone's dumn enough to buy them, they're not going to care if it's 1g or 3g so much y'see.

Sell leather in auctions, effective way. You get more money that way than making anything usefull with leatherworking.

Wrong. I made buckets of gold from skin/leather with little effort. Most people just don't bother and waste their time grinding.

With lw, there's a few green/blue (vendor pattern) items that sell well and profitably. Get to know what the mats are, then snipe the AH every time you log on to pick up the mats for all your regulars cheap. Don't be afraid to buy a stock if the price-per-item is low. (Get a mod that shows it color-coded). then just churn out items as you get the mats. Don't bother grinding for mats specifically, but be aware that, e.g. Stranglethorn Vale has lots of leather-related drops (Large Fang etc) as well as lots of beasts for leather if you're going to grind for XP.

Get an alt for auctioning and mail him the items you make. Then, you can keep a stock of items on him and sell them when it's favourable. Don't bother dropping prices if it doesn't sell. Just relist when the competition has taffed off. It's not in your interest to get into a price war.

Don't use low bid starts, it only hurst your bottom line. Your market is rich alts. Most of them will just buyout if the price is decent.

Off the top of my head my best items were:

(Bid-Buyout)
Barbaric Bracers (3-5g ish each, most rogues/feral druids will get these in their lifetime)
Toughened Leather Gloves (5g +. Rich rogue alts)
Gem-Studded Leather Belt (5-8g. Health effect = nice for PvP alt. (They're rich)

Wolfshead Helm (I did Tribal... 8-10g. Irregular sellers sicne the market is feral druids.)

Point is: snipe the AH for mats instead of grinding. Easy way to do it. once you get to know the value of mats and buy wisely your margins will be huge.

[Foxy]

man, grouphug is ****ed up. Jesus! Some of the quotes there... omg..

[Wamplet]

man, grouphug is ****ed up. Jesus! Some of the quotes there... omg..

Don't be alarmed. I estimate about half were written by the Bulgar.

[Twin]

been playing WoW for over a year now... and i'm still on my first character... level 57 warlock...

i honestly can't believe how quick some of these WoW player level up there characters

[Wamplet]

they run those programs that play the game for you. :o

[Rider]

Chaimed - Server Moonglade
Level 40 Human Warlock

I just reached level 40 a few days ago, I'm still getting the money together for my riding skill. I want to have the 'felsteed' AND a living horse. Because I can :D

[big fat lazy]

You get the level 40 riding skill after you complete the felsteed quest.

Same goes for the epic riding skill and the dreadsteed quest.

[Foxy]

Heh, That only saves 18g.

[big fat lazy]

Level 40 riding skill is like 72g.

[Foxy]

Isn't the mount the 72-odd g? I don't play anymore, so my mind is slowly kicking this stuff out of my memories

[big fat lazy]

They changed it so the riding skills are the expensive part and mounts themselves are cheap.

[Foxy]

Makes sense I guess. I never did get horse-riding for my nelf. :( Would have been awesome to go around on a dark horse as a hooded rogue. Stalking hordies especially.

[FrozeN91]

To bad nelves can't ride on horses, only tigers :p

[dlink]

I'm a Tauren Druid just got to lvl 40 and bought my mount, jesus i love it! Well it took alot of my money but it was worth it, i'm now saving up to buy my skills, only got 4-5g atm. I'm Currently doing quests in Tanaris with some and i play on European realm named Ravencrest.

BTW: FOR THE HORDE, HORDE FTW :P

Horde barely loose in WSG or AB.

[ZuljinRaynor]

To bad nelves can't ride on horses, only tigers :p

I think you can. Get exaulted with Stormwind or something and get the skill.

Horde FTW though.

[Foxy]

Alliance FTW! Silly Horde and their simultaneous superiority/persecution complex.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Almost all the noobs play on Alliance. ;) That's the one reason I don't play Alliance. Another is the Alliance races... I hate them all. Always hated the Alliance races in WarCraft games.

[big fat lazy]

I play both factions a lot, though I do like the Horde better, and I can't stand Night elves.

I currently have a 60 orc warlock waiting for the expansion and I'm leveling a dwarf hunter.

[Foxy]

Almost all the noobs play on Alliance.

Yes, superiority complex. That's what I said.

Also: Barrens Chat. Take that 'noobless uber Horde'.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Oh, Barrens chat is just people dicking around for fun. (At least on the realms I've been on.)

And I hate the NE starting zone. My friends made me make a NE hunter but really, it's just such a bad zone.

[Foxy]

Personally I loved the NE zones. Much better than acres of dust, like half the hrode areas are. :p

[ZuljinRaynor]

Really? Troll/Orc start is my favorite. I like the colors.

[dlink]

Almost all the noobs play on Alliance. ;) That's the one reason I don't play Alliance. Another is the Alliance races... I hate them all. Always hated the Alliance races in WarCraft games.

Agreed allies is like a bunch of lil year old kids, and almost every ally is NE like *OMG i wanna be NE so o look like Legolas from lotr ZOMG*

personally the coolest ally race is Dwarf imo.

btw i got to lvl 41 now bought some skills fot 7g got 2g left. + we pwned allies in AB 2000-800 we won. 7 blowing kills and 64 honorable kills.:cool:

[seregrail7]

I started to play again in November, I'm at lvl28 now, just started a new character, another Orc Warrior, I still love playing this game, ****ed if I know why.

[Nacho]

mmm...so hard to get gold fast

[Foxy]

almost every ally is NE like *OMG i wanna be NE so o look like Legolas from lotr ZOMG*

Horde saying this is a bigger cliche than the Legolas thing itself. Funny how allies never scream "THRALL WANNABEE" at Orc shaman.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Because Orc Shamans were regular characters in WC3...

[big fat lazy]

Horde saying this is a bigger cliche than the Legolas thing itself. Funny how allies never scream "THRALL WANNABEE" at Orc shaman.

Maybe because there are lots of NE hunters with names like Legolazz, legollos, legolasx, etc. I've seen several personally on different servers and on the Blizzard forums.

[FrozeN91]

Personally I loved the NE zones. Much better than acres of dust, like half the hrode areas are. :p

Indeed. I didn't like any starting-zone except for the NEones. Damn this thread, now I wanne buy WoW again.... (sold my account to a friend :doh:)

[Foxy]

Maybe because there are lots of NE hunters with names like Legolazz, legollos, legolasx, etc. I've seen several personally on different servers and on the Blizzard forums.

Well, I played 2 NE's past 40, and seemingly spent half the time grouped with NE hunters (really, it was quiet weird. Though not THE weirdest thing about my time). I never saw a single 'legolas' copycat. Saw a few joke-level-one alts on the forums, that's it.

IMO the 'legolas' thing is a self-perpetuated myth driven by hatred of the Night Elves and hunters. Someone started it as a joke, it became a meme, thus becoming self-propogating and virulent. People started making 'legolas' copycat characters as a nod to the meme. The hrode loved to quote it because it supports their 'Alliance are noobs' mantra.

[Nacho]

I love the whole Horde hates Alliance and Alliance hate Horde. Totally adds to the game.

[ZuljinRaynor]

I love the whole Horde hates Alliance and Alliance hate Horde. Totally adds to the game.

That's how it should be. :p

[dlink]

That's how it should be. :p

Agreed :P. As a 100% Horde i just can't stand allies especially in Gadgetzan when NE rogue tries to kill you and then they go stealth and tries to attack. Allies are just dumb :D

[ZuljinRaynor]

I can't stand any Alliance character. It's *click* and the /rude . :p

[Foxy]

Tauren should have been allied to NE... >< 3-faction would have been so much funnier.

So I just drive-by /hugged passing Tauren instead. Plus refraining from attacking tauren druids especially. Druids shouldn't attack other druids, mkay?

[ZuljinRaynor]

How could Tauren ally with NE when they were with the Orcs in WC3?

And druids make me laugh. :p

[dlink]

i'm a druid, and why do they make you laugh? :P

[big fat lazy]

When I see tree druids in battlegrounds, I always banish them. :P

[Foxy]

Druids are a joke.

Blizzard just doesn't know what to do with them, so they're eternally gimp.

[Pansa]

Druids are a joke.

Blizzard just doesn't know what to do with them, so they're eternally gimp.

meh , shure doesnt feel like it..

created a pve feraldruid august 05 .. always loved it , always will ^^
<3 seeing warriors bleed to death ^^

or "backstab hits you criticaly : 400"
your mangle hits xxy criticaly :1000"
xxy dies

[seregrail7]

Quick question, I'm level 30, what in TBC will there be for me to do? Outland is restricted to lvl58+, isn't it?

[dlink]

meh , shure doesnt feel like it..

created a pve feraldruid august 05 .. always loved it , always will ^^
<3 seeing warriors bleed to death ^^

or "backstab hits you criticaly : 400"
your mangle hits xxy criticaly :1000"
xxy dies
Agreed, i also like being druid!

yeah it is seregrail7 so you can't go to Outland before that lvl :(.

[seregrail7]

I don't really have a problem with that, it makes sense. I'm just wondering if there'll be much added to Azeroth.

[Foxy]

I liked being Druid until I realised how terminally ****ed they are. Shapeshifters have NO gear tailored for them. Hybrid stuff makes you gimp in all forms, specialised stuff cripples you in all but one form, and thus you end up a cfrappy rogue/warrior/mage and can't use utility to yoru advantage.

or "backstab hits you criticaly : 400"
your mangle hits xxy criticaly :1000"

You are affected by faerie fire
You gain bear form
Your maul does ***** all* dmg

*10 minutes later*

You die.

Rogue:

Your eviscerate hits X for 2000, X dies, howwibly howwibly.
You gain vanish.
You laugh.

Cat can do damage, sure, but you're better off as a rogue if you like that style. A Rogue's toolkit just aces a Druid's since Blizzard ****ed them up so bad. That, and rogues scale better and do better damage when in equal level gear. (Don't have to waste points on int to be able to fsking heal their own asses to have a hope in hell).

[seregrail7]

So I made up a bit of a lie today. There was talk of Krull coming to Orgrimmar, the channel was flooded with questions asking when. So I said he'd be there at 8 'o clock, outside the gates. Right now, a shit load of people are waiting, they were getting everyone in their guilds to come to help try defeat him. It's at a stage where my dial-up connection can't handle it, so I can no longer connect. My friend is trying to get a screen of it now.

Oh well, no screen, my friend can't connect either, with his 10mb connection, so I guess the server is just ****ed for that area. Still funny.

[Pansa]

I liked being Druid until I realised how terminally ****ed they are. Shapeshifters have NO gear tailored for them. Hybrid stuff makes you gimp in all forms, specialised stuff cripples you in all but one form, and thus you end up a cfrappy rogue/warrior/mage and can't use utility to yoru advantage.



You are affected by faerie fire
You gain bear form
Your maul does ***** all* dmg

*10 minutes later*

You die.

Rogue:

Your eviscerate hits X for 2000, X dies, howwibly howwibly.
You gain vanish.
You laugh.

Cat can do damage, sure, but you're better off as a rogue if you like that style. A Rogue's toolkit just aces a Druid's since Blizzard ****ed them up so bad. That, and rogues scale better and do better damage when in equal level gear. (Don't have to waste points on int to be able to fsking heal their own asses to have a hope in hell).

well , the point is , that "either or" isnt a valid tactic..
well it is.. against rogues ... if you start in bear, you finish in bear, with a dead rogue in the dust.. the only ones seriously a problem are combatrogues with thunderfury (naturedamage) and those who exploit serverlags running in and out of range, thus preventing me to hit them..

go to the oforums and take a look at the whining by the other cc classes ^^

but my drood is a pveferal, so i dont have the for pvp niffty stun/fearresist ^^ if you get to choose your pvp fights , you rock.
starting in cat, putting a full bleed on a warrior , and then going bear and afking till warrior down ... priceless ^^

and with 10k armor , there is no 2k evis ^^ it settles around 800^^

[Foxy]

well it is.. against rogues ... if you start in bear, you finish in bear, with a dead rogue in the dust.. the only ones seriously a problem are combatrogues with thunderfury (naturedamage) and those who exploit serverlags running in and out of range, thus preventing me to hit them..

GL if he stuns one of your looong heals.

Oh, and outlasting people in bear is not an amazing victory anyway.

[Pansa]

what heals?
oh , so using my primary anti closecombatform against close combat is an unamazing victory... well it is. since im not amazed i won ?
as i said , as long as you prevent getting stunlocked in cat or caster, rogues = dead ^^ and yes it takes a while ... since they just delay the inevitable ^^ critting beyond 1k as bear against rogues is "common" for me, favourable doublehits mangle and maul ^^ yes he will stun me, if he does use evasion i use bearheal if hes getting me to much down...

first char in euro open beta was a warrior, first realchar a rogue, and ive played feral since august 05 and its just more fun ^^

[Nacho]

So, can't play WoW. The last update caused it to say something like, "cannont validate version"

sweet eh?

[seregrail7]

Tried a reinstall?

[Nacho]

Nope. That would take hours upon hours to install AND reupdate everything

[ZuljinRaynor]

Reinstall takes 30 minutes... tops. Updates take longer but you should already have them.

[Ivan]

So, can't play WoW. The last update caused it to say something like, "cannont validate version"

sweet eh?

Seems like it's affecting everyone, and their forums are down.

(Not that I play WoW, but I read Digg. :o)

[Nacho]

It's working now.

Anyways there is this little hut on the mountain by Red Rocks (Mulgore) how do you get to it?

[Pansa]

the one you fly over when going between org and TB ?
you cant, or if you can bug yourself up there , theres nothing to see ..

other examples are the partytrolls between moonglade and darkshore,
or the dwarf flightstrip Northeast of Ironforge.

[ZuljinRaynor]

I'm in the middle of doing a character transfer since I can't play with all the fullness of the server... :(

[Nacho]

Noticed something with the new patch...

Ive died several times doing it. While trying to swim to get air it stops your character right before the surface and you have to press the button a few more times before you actually surface. drowned so many times.

[hell-angel]

So I just could hooked up to WOW as well, first tried a mage (lvll 17) but I like the druid (NE) better. :) especially the shapeshifting is cool. :D

[Gouldius]

Got The Burning Crusade at the midnight launch.. the new zones are so ****ing pretty.

Love it. Zomg.

[ZuljinRaynor]

I JUST SAW A FREAKING BLOOD ELF! Gah!

[seregrail7]

There was a naked one dancing in Orgrimmar for like an hour earlier.

[ZuljinRaynor]

I'm angry cause you need BC just to visit the BE city. :(

[dlink]

Look at meeee! Woot Woot BC! I made a blood elf paladin, she's hot :D. The starting place is awesome and the quests are what all of them are in the begging go kill something or collect. Well here's da proof!
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8634/lookatmehtv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
FOR THE HORDE! But oh well i'm very pleased with it! I can mana drain like the BE do in the cinematic trailer, it's nice <3.

[ZuljinRaynor]

I love Alliance twinks...

[big fat lazy]

Yeah twinks need to be stopped. They say they do it because it's more fun without the higher level skills and mounts.. but then they use high level enchants on all their gear.

[Phait]

Kid whines cause he can't play WoW. http://www.break.com/worldofwarcraft/mom-tells-kid-no-more-warcraft2.html

Also, my friend has become a WoW addict. He works 3 days a week instead of 5 - he took days off to spend time w/ his GF, but they broke up cause she was cheating on him (wonder why :D) and now he uses that time to play even more WoW, and always mentions WoW and/or PVP'ing when I visit him at the gas station he works at. UGH.

[ShadeEX]

Noticed something with the new patch...

Ive died several times doing it. While trying to swim to get air it stops your character right before the surface and you have to press the button a few more times before you actually surface. drowned so many times.

Hmm wierd.. I haven't played for some weeks now so i haven't noticed.. as I had to wait to buy a new card, since I have bills to pay too..

But that definatly needs fixing if it's like that..

By the way as I've probably already mentioned im a Bloodelf paladin.. currently only lvl 14

Here's my character sheet over at Wows the Armory (requires latest version of flash to function properly):
http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Nigrathi

I'm playing on the same server as dlink.. Ravencrest.. if he's still playing on that server that is..

I'm also thinking about playing on yet another server (if it's allowed that is, I have to check that first), since one of my best firends is playing on that server and we are thinking of playing together..

[ShadeEX]

Nope. That would take hours upon hours to install AND reupdate everything

Well after a while they make big patches that updates previous versions so you don't have to download that many patches..

I personally only had to download 4 patches this time, when I reinstalled yesterday..

Also I higly recommend getting Gameshadow, it serches for patches, for games and the latest version of you graphic drivers and directx version. It also uses very fast servers, It took about 15 minutes to download the C&C 3 Demo on Gameshadow on my 2Mbit connection.

http://www.gameshadow.com
I can help if anybody wants to know more about this, or get help on how to use it.. Just pm me..

But IMO it's fairly easy to use gameshadow..

I found out about it because, it was on the Hitman Blood Money DvD in a extras folder. And it asked if I wanted to install it, when I was installing Blood Money for the first time..

I got curious about it, so I installed it and I've been using it ever since then..

[ShadeEX]

Kid whines cause he can't play WoW. http://www.break.com/worldofwarcraft/mom-tells-kid-no-more-warcraft2.html


Ahh man and other people on WOW heard that conversation... :doh:

Thats just embarrassing, at least he could turn of the mic, when he was talking to his parents.. I don't think anybody wants to hear stuff like that, during a game..

Also that kid needs some dicipline, obviously he was going to have a lacorsse match the next day, and the kid didn't even care.. Even though the parents took time off, just so they could see his match the next day.. That's just stupid :brickwall:

[Llama Gibbz]

I didnt care for guild wars,is WOW anything like it?

There really hasnt been a blizzard game i didnt like and i havent tried this yet.
Kind of debating getting it now,since its cheap.

[FrozeN91]

since its cheap.There's a monthly fee? :p

[Llama Gibbz]

There's a monthly fee? :p

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/672/orlysmallch5.jpg
.......

[ZuljinRaynor]

WoW is much better than Guild Wars, but it's also more MMO than Diablo (GW is more Diablo than MMO).

The monthly fee is justified by the quality... but ONLY as long as you DEDICATE LOTS of time. I mean LOTS. :(

[Llama Gibbz]

Mabey ill try the 10 free day trial first.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Good idea. If you hit level 20 or whatever the trial cap is in less than half the time, go for it. :p

[Sailboat]

To me, WoW is a lot like cigarettes... no real good reason to start if you're not addicted already.
I play a lot...

[Longtimefan1984]

World of Warcraft nerd Part 3 in all it's glory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzXsS6oePd4

NERD ECHO......LOL

[Little Conqueror]

To me, WoW is a lot like cigarettes... no real good reason to start if you're not addicted already.
I play a lot...

I got out of WoW a long time ago and can pretty much agree with this statement wholeheartedly. It's fun to play if you have a friend with a similar schedule to group with on a regular basis, but trying to solo your way to 60 (or 70 - I quit before BC) was just such a pain in the ass when I was playing that I let my account run out and deactivated. I understand that they changed it a bit, but everything is way too dependent on gear, and it's hard to be a competitive PvP player when you don't have 10 hours out of the day to work on getting new gear.

[Jeff]

Basically WoW goes like this.

You start a character. Level him to 70. Get him all geared up. Crush some noobs in PVP or spend months raiding.

Some day or another Blizzard comes along with the nerf bat (or buff bat) and makes FOTM classes. Right now there's usually warlocks, warriors and hunters who are OP (overpowered).

So if you're not one of these classes, you're probably saying to yourself "aww man, I just spent 4 months gearing up my shaman and two shotting every clothy in sight now I can't kill anything". So your 4 months of play is kind of wasted.

That's 4 months of you're life. Now that's just once, but let's say you roll that OP warrior after what they did to your shaman. There have been hundreds of pages on how warriors and other classes are OP on the forums, and sooner or later they will receive a nerf. Bringing me back to the whole 4 months gone point.

I speak the truth when it comes to this because I've been playing this game for almost 3 years now. Probably about 6 months ago, I thought about quitting, but the thing is there aren't any better games out there. Still I should maybe make an effort to try and find another game to play.

The community in general is full of kids plus immature adults and isn't really that helpful. Can be downright nasty to other players at times.

The game used to have such an epic feel to it, but now things have changed. Gold is easy to get. Honor is easy to get. Epic gear through PVP is basically handed to you if you play your 10 games a week in the arenas or you get honor through BGs. Back when I played my shaman, I played under the old honor system and played 8 hours a day for 4 months to get the Champion's set. That's rank 10 out of 14. If I went on holidays I would lose my rank because it's a ladder system. You have to stay active to stay competitive.

Recently they massively nerfed quests turning all the elites (well most of them) into non-elites, so anyone could just kill them with very little effort. As well as XP gains and rewards from quests have been raised by a big amount to ease the leveling from 20-60 (no change from 1-20).

There's no attunements needed for some raids and heroic instances now require a lower reputation so almost anyone who did all the quests in a zone could just walk into a heroic. What this means is that there are more inept players walking into these heroic instances and are just asking for trouble and causing massive repair bills for people who are experienced.

Now I'm not trying to talk you out of playing WoW, I'm just saying from experience, this is what you are going to expect. Now if you can handle this, that's cool, but I'm just giving you a heads up.

I've recently re-installed UT2004/UT2007 and am looking at other games to fill the time sink which could take some planning.

I think there's more, but that's all I can remember for now before I head to bed.

[Longtimefan1984]

You suffering from withdrawl or something? lol

[blakey83]

I love wow for the social asspect,as me and a friend play 3 times a week without fail.but i can honestly say that it does grab you by the balls with a tight grip,and wont let go until its squeezed every chance of a family out of them.literaly.i have a fiancee of six years and a baby on the way,and try to play when she has gone to bed.but this lately i have been on in the day..and she took a shine to it,and decided that she wanted to create a char and try it out.

Now personaly,im hooked...but i fear she is going the same way coz whenever i drag my ass outta bed,she is playing it...and doing pretty dam well too.I have given up on wow 3 or 4 times now,but then i find that im not playing much online with my friend (apart from f.e.a.r and thats not as co-operative)....and we only realy speak in the week whilst playing games together, as he has a busy lifestyle as well.so wow is our only way of having a proper gaming session together,where we feel as if it has more meaning than just mindless shooting.but now i think i need some counciling or somthin:)

if any of you are thinkin of playin wow....then keep a hold of ya balls men.you might need them in the future!

[Jeff]

You suffering from withdrawl or something? lol

Heh, no, I haven't really liked the game for the past 6 months. I don't think that I don't really enjoy playing it and that's why I'm looking for other games. Right now I haven't found that game I liked.

[Mountain Man]

I got a 15-day WoW trial when I bought the WarCraft III Battle Chest box, but I've yet to take advantage of it. I don't really have any interest in a pay-to-play game anyway (regardless of how much fun the game might actually be), so it'd be a short-lived experience, though I have toyed with the idea of trying it out as a single player game using the emulated server software that's floating around the net. I know you wouldn't be able to get far, but you'd still be able to look around and see what the game has to offer with little restriction.

[December Man]

Too bad I wasn't there when mages were OP :( Now I get destroyed by hunters and warlocks with a half a brain. The only spec/class that I destroy with extreme ease are Holy Loladins. The rest of class/spec vary from medium to hard.

[ZuljinRaynor]

WoW is not bad if you can control yourself. I solo'd so I took my time and everything and didn't play (that) excessively but I could also stop when I wanted to. It was still fun and a great experience.

[big fat lazy]

I've been off WoW (again) for about 4 months. Whenever I hear a new patch is out, I try not to read the patch notes, cause it always make me want to play again.
I made the mistake of reading the 2.3 patch notes and I nearly fell off the wagon.

[Llama Gibbz]

I decided to stay way from it.


Hellgate had some some quest runs that took too much time and i really dont have the patience nor time to spend hrs. on a single quest.

Now if if you could save your progress mid way,id consider it.

I cant stand playing games more than 1-2hr sessions anymore.

[Taril]

I still play WoW.
I think I'm one of the few that have played the game nearly non-stop since it came out in 2004. lol

[Jeff]

I was thinking of selling my account. Not sure how much I'll get for it, I'm hoping $500 or so. I've got about 7 level 70s (two which are geared out, the others are just alts). Both my warlocks have nether drakes (PVE ones from Netherwing, I hate arenas). Between all my characters I have roughly 8000 gold or so. One of them is half PVP gear half PVE gear with about 300 resilience and 11,300 health. My really geared one has all PVP gear with 3/5 merciless, 2/5 gladiator's, all the PVP accessories and weapons, plus about 400 resilience and 12,000 health.

[Simon Charles]

My really geared one has all PVP gear with 3/5 merciless, 2/5 gladiator's, all the PVP accessories and weapons, plus about 400 resilience and 12,000 health.

I'll give you five bucks for the whole shebang.

[Jeff]

Not when I slaved the past 2 1/2 years building those characters. :p

[Bludd]

I quit WoW at level 67. I had played for about 6 months from the time TBC was launched. It was fun playing with real life friends, but it's the same crap over and over again. So I quit and I am glad. Bye bye, won't play WoW again ever.

[FrozeN91]

I bought the game the same week it was released. Thought it was fun as hell for a while. All my friends bought it too.
I leveled to around 40, then made a new character, leveled to 40, made a new character.. :p
After a few months I got bored of the game and stopped playing, but I kept coming back for more. Made a new character, leveled to 58 then stopped playing right before The Burning Crusade was released. I haven't touched it since. But many of my friends are still playing. Freaks if you ask me. Some of them just can't shut up about WoW.

[Simon Charles]

Not when I slaved the past 2 1/2 years building those characters. :p

I'll give you two bucks for the whole shebang.

[Jeff]

A friend that I've known since 2004 was trying to get me to give it to him for $50 or so, but when I looked on Ebay this guy has two 70s decked out, a few level 60-69 characters, and a bunch of level 20 alts. All of this for $700-1200.

[Reaper]

A friend that I've known since 2004 was trying to get me to give it to him for $50 or so, but when I looked on Ebay this guy has two 70s decked out, a few level 60-69 characters, and a bunch of level 20 alts. All of this for $700-1200.
Sounds like a waste of money to me. Simon Charles has the right idea with offering $2.

[Droid]

Been there, broke my hand playing, so I quit.

TBC came out, when back on again, played to 70, done all the quests I wanted to do, then got bored as there was nothing left to do except raid (which to me was like doing an boring and annoying quest over and over again slooowly).

Found raiding required too much time, then realised the game as a whole was taking too much time and that I had neglected my RL™ (not to mention nearly breaking my hand again).

As a man with rather poor self control, I'm never going back there again, nor to any other MMORPG.

[ryche]

I haven't played wow in 5 months...I think the crack is outta me for now. :)

[ZuljinRaynor]

I don't really understand what addicts people to WoW. I played it rather casually even though I played for like over 200 hours.

[Michelangelo]

I haven't played it in 6months but enjoyed it when I did. Made a lot of friends and got my character to 69 warrior :D

[widowmaker]

Ah WoW. My friend gave it to me for Christmas. Been playing all the time eer since.
So any one here still play?
I am on the Arathor server. (Sorry I wrote Azeroth by mistake I am still a WoW noob.)
-Lexivore
-Servas
-Dragor

I play Lex mostly the other two are low levels of classes I thought I would try out. So much to do, so little gold to do it with.

[jones1899]

Why do I even play this game?

It is so obvious that WOW is about keeping the player playing (and paying) month after month after month...

Last night I did this quest. Ok so I was supposed to get 8 pieces of Boar meat? Why? Who the hell knows. Anyway, so I get the eight pieces of meat, but oh wait - this is tainted meat. I have to use this liquid on each piece to make it fresh. No problem except that some how, for some reason, the liquid only works a fraction of the time. So I had 2 fresh pieces of boar meat and 6! pieces that were ruined. So i had to kill MORE boars and so on.

In the end I had 15 pieces of tainted meat for which the liquid did not work on and finally 9 pieces of fresh boar meat to hand to some lazy dude so he can pay me 2 gold.

Terrible. And yet I still play from time to time! MMOs are MORE than due for a revolution. There's got to be a better way.

[ryche]

World of Warcraft nerd Part 3 in all it's glory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzXsS6oePd4

NERD ECHO......LOL

I love those videos. It's sooo funny hearing people so pissed off on something they can fix so easily. :)
What's funny is that little kid that's like 13 is like "I'll F**** sue you!" hahaha

WoW is outta my system...for now.

[Bushido]

I love those videos. It's sooo funny hearing people so pissed off on something they can fix so easily. :)
What's funny is that little kid that's like 13 is like "I'll F**** sue you!" hahaha

WoW is outta my system...for now.

I've talked to Videocompiler a few times and the reason why he does this is because he himself used to be like that. He looked at himself and more or less said, "what am I doing!?" so now he makes these videos to expose these ultra nerds in their natural habitat...

[Jeff]

When you quit WoW, that's a lot of time you have to replace if you played it a lot. So you need to think of things to replace it with. I was thinking of finding other ganes to play or maybe even going out some more. Although it's kind of cold outside, I'll just have to dress for it.

I think it's kind of like an adrenaline rush. Always trying to get to the next level. Some people just don't know when to stop. Other play for the social aspect. Some people feel that they aren't really anything in real life, so they can make an overpowered warrior who hits for 2200 on cloth (even if the person has a 20% damage reduction if they're a warlock) and can kill a fresh 70 in three hits. However, problem is, nothing really gets done about it even with all the cries for help from the players. There's a lot of problems with the game and that's why a lot of people are getting frustrated with it.

I personally hated arenas and since they have become the new PVP thing (Blizzard focused TBC PVP around them), and basically handing out anyone who plays the game top tier armor and weapons for not even trying (lose 10 games a week and still get your arena weapon or armor and you can be overpowered too).

[ryche]

I stopped mainly due to deployin and my wife not wanting me to start back up once I got back. Honestly I'm tired of tryin to get any descent gear cause I have no time to dedicate to really anything above Kara. Arena is worthless to me cause none of my friends wanted me to do it with them being a rogue. Plus as soon as the new expansion comes out there goes all your work for some 70 green that trumps it.

I first joined for the social aspect but now I only honestly know 2 people on it in real life that I actually see there's no reason to keep playing since it's boring. Boring!

[Jeff]

There was an article somewhere about MMO addictions by a doctor. I'll have to dig it up.

[Phait]

Ha http://us.i1.yimg.com/videogames.yahoo.com/feature/wedding-woes-the-dark-side-of-warcraft/1186366

[Simon Charles]

I stopped because you no longer need people to play. It feels as though they nerfed it to hell. The world is barren now. I can't even get past the character creation screen anymore. I'm bored out of my mind just thinking I'll have to kill a thousand rabbits just to be allowed into an instance to get some loot.

I feel WoW (and/or parts of it) will one day get chopped off and retooled into a singleplayer game. I dunno, I always "stopped" after Scarlet Monastery. For me, the game "ended" after that. Every single dungeon after the Monastry was too long to complete. I could no longer play after that. All my characters are stalled at level 44. I never get past that.

[Damien_Azreal]

HA! (http://us.i1.yimg.com/videogames.yahoo.com/feature/wedding-woes-the-dark-side-of-warcraft/1186366)

That is really just... wow.

[Phait]

That's what I just posted.

[Damien_Azreal]

I overlooked your post.

Oh well... I hate WoW anyway. :p

[ZuljinRaynor]

I hate what WoW has done to WarCraft's lore. :(

[Simon Charles]

HA! (http://us.i1.yimg.com/videogames.yahoo.com/feature/wedding-woes-the-dark-side-of-warcraft/1186366)

That is really just... wow.

That article sounds wierd. The way it's written doesn't sit right with me.

Anyhoo, if it's true, then the chick had every right to dump that moron, although it's stupid to say she'd never date a gamer again. As if we were all like her husband. Laura and I are huge gamers yet we always prioritize our time together first. In fact, we insist on spending quiet time together, away from games and movies. We always dedicate parts of our evenings together to sharing common activities such as shopping, cooking or just lying about on the couch in each other's arms, in complete bliss and silence.

We're both gamers but we make it work. We try, we do our best, we compromise, we share, we communicate. Just because we enjoy kicking each other's asses on the 360 doesn't mean our relationship's gonna get destroyed by a silly videogame. You'd have to be pretty immature to let that get in the way of a meaningful relationship.

[December Man]

My situation with WoW is this:

I don't regret I ever started playing, but I regret I have never stopped playing...yet.

[Rider]

I stopped playing about a year ago. It was mainly because of time restrictions that I couldn't play anymore (I started an education then) so it wasn't really that big of a deal for me.

I tried buying the expansion and playing some more somewhere around the vacation, but I couldn't make myself go on. The game is just very boring somewhere around Level 40. Maybe the fact that most of the people I played with aren't playing it anymore, and our guild more or less disbanded has something to do with it, but for me there's just nothing in the game to enjoy anymore :)

[Simon Charles]

Everything's so barren now. How am I supposed to run Uldaman alone?

Pirates of the Burning Sea is the only MMO that may give me the addiction again, but WoW is dead to me.

[big fat lazy]

Who the hell would want to do Uldaman in the first place :mryuck:. But yeah I know what you're saying.

[December Man]

Restorative Potion quest lawl :p

[Jeff]

Seems like they are basically giving free PVP gear to the raiders now. As of the next patch they plan to give the basic honor loot away for badges (boots, belt, bracers), and the armor away for tier tokens. For example, tier 4 would get you Gladiator's; tier 5 would get you Merciless Gladiator's and tier 6 would get you Vengeful Gladiator's.

I very much liked the game back when the old system was in place. Where you had to work for your gear. Now they're just handing out easy epics.

Oh well, guess I'll have to start thinking of something else to play. I heard a lot about TF2.

[December Man]

Yeah, it's getting ridiculous. Have you seen the new badge rewards? What's the point of raiding except fun wiping 20 times attempting a boss?

[ryche]

Yeah, it's getting ridiculous. Have you seen the new badge rewards? What's the point of raiding except fun wiping 20 times attempting a boss?

Wasn't that the point of raiding the whole time? Wiping til you get 1 head piece or whatever that only 1 class could use and o look, none are in the raid to get it LOL :doh:

I'm glad I stopped playing. I hated raiding.

[December Man]

Wasn't that the point of raiding the whole time? Wiping til you get 1 head piece or whatever that only 1 class could use and o look, none are in the raid to get it LOL :doh:

Still it was superior to anything so-called casuals could ever get. Now you just farm enough badges and voila, "I'm only slightly inferior to the guy who spent months of raiding trying to get that one piece of gear".

I never had that kind of attitude but seeing the 2.4 patch notes I changed my mind.

[RedSplat]

I started playing again after two years.. :)
Someone persuaded me, again.
I'm a casual player, i like the exploring and questing part mostly. Never done battlegrounds or anything. Hate wow-penis-size factor.
Send gold to RedSplat at darksorrow-horde. kthx.

[Jeff]

It seems 150 badges will get you Black Temple loot. I never even got 50 badges the whole time I played TBC. Couldn't get any groups for heroics and couldn't find a guild for Karazhan. I mean I could, but I couldn't meet their schedule, so no badges.

We'll see how the next patch goes, but I think I'm going to look into some of my old games (eg. Sim City and such).

[ryche]

I think it's sad how gear has become but really what else would you want when you play the arena besides better gear? I think they could've made it not better or as good as the highest end stuff. I just have a problem with tryin to gather 40 people to raid a place for hours trying to only get a few pieces of loot (ok now it's 25 peeps). I think that's just a huge waste of time. :(

Now for the lore side of it though it makes sense which sucks cause it should take a ton of people to attack one of the higher end powerful beings in that universe.

I think they should do away with Arenas when the expansion comes out. Battlegrounds were fun but make them more than just a rush to kill the 1 guy. And they should really look into changing the old world dungeons besides Naxx. If no one plays Scholo or strat or whatever then that dungeon should either close (no point in having it if the first gear in Outland FARRR exceeds what the work gets you in those places) as if the place has been defeated in the game and now is just free for exploration. Or revamp them for the 58-60 group with gear that helps them in Outland. Stuff that's not necessarily dominating for that level but at least a tad better with the first drop/quest rewards in Outland to motivate people to those dungeons.

I just fear the same thing is going to happen with the new expansion. Why waste running even the 5 man places in Outland when WOTLK will start you off with greens better? Probably why I won't bother playing when the expansion comes...

[Jeff]

I don't really like it either how arena has become THE thing to do in the expansion. Not only that, but the game is balanced around it. For example, fear was nerfed not because of PVE, but it was because I could fear someone until they were dead in a battleground and they couldn't do anything about it. It now breaks on either direct damage to a target (most often), or sometimes damage over time (warlock spells, priest stuff, maybe the druid's moonfire). To top it off, a player can become immune to fear for quite some time. I tested this out, I usually get one fear off and the person is now immune to fear (except death coil which makes them run away from me for 3 seconds, then they can walk back and pound me).

Another thing was there was a drinking nerf thanks to arenas. I think you get less mana back when trying to drink instead of what's intended.

Tom Chilton (Kalgan as he's called) was a guy who used to work on Ultima Online and now he works on WoW. Basically how he "balances" the PVP system is around whatever character he plays. To put it simply, he plays a warrior right now, and almost every class except that has gotten some nerfs, while his class seems to get a little more powerful.

I know people like Ivan have been bugging me about WoW and all, but I think it's almost time to quit. I've proven that I'm not as addicted to this game as some claim, so I can step away and go do other things. Just need to stick at it and eventually WoW will be out of my mind.

[ryche]

Man Jeff, I so agree about the nerfing for stuff to fit with PVP of WoW.

I just forgot to put it in my rant lol :) But yeah I agree with you and it's a shame they're doing that. Like Windfury and fear ;)

[thefly]

I hate WoW because it apparently ate AndOne. :mad:

[ryche]

it ate what?

[thefly]

Him. Him was eaten. (http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/member.php?u=2640)

[ryche]

Well crap...that's what he gets for being level one and running around near the river :)

[Jeff]

I have to find a game which does not involve people or "group play". Leveling from 1-70 can be done solo.

However, once you hit 70, it revolves around group play.

Thing is, if it was easy to find a group for something I'd probably stay, but that's one thing that gets me. Aside from the community (immature and down right mean if you've been here long enough). I was looking for someone to help me with a group quest and after asking nicely for 30 minutes, I actually had one of my guild members come out in guild chat and give me a flat out "No". I always thought guilds were supposed to be helpful, but maybe not in this game. I've heard of other games which can be helpful to you, but it doesn't seem like WoW is like that.

Not sure if all MMOs are kind of a grind thing, or maybe that's just one particular MMO.

Anyways I should probably do some hard thinking on what my next game should be.

[Simon Charles]

I have to find a game which does not involve people or "group play". Leveling from 1-70 can be done solo.

Why the heck would you want to play a multiplayer game alone?

[Jeff]

I like WoW as a game, I just don't like the group aspect or having to group with people who don't know what they're doing (instance PUGs, battlegrounds).

[ZuljinRaynor]

I played WoW solo since I played it for teh WarCraft lore, which they later raped.

[Jeff]

I find the story interesting as well.

Maybe if I could find a game with a cool story, but a single player, then it would work.