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Joe Siegler
03-10-2006, 03:02 PM
Welcome to the latest edition of the Prey Weekly Update series. A few weeks ago you were told you'd get an update from Venom games in the UK on the Xbox 360 version of Prey. That's what we're bringing you today. This week's update is not from Chris at Human Head, but it's by Peter Johnson at Venom Games in the UK.

Chris will return next week with the next Prey Weekly Update. There's plenty to read in Peter's update, so let's get right to it....

We started work in earnest on bringing Prey to the 360 in late June 2005, although we had been looking at the code a little before that to ready ourselves and plan our attack. It was amusing to see on some gaming forums that some posters seemed to think that the announcement about it last month meant that we had just started work on it, this is far from the case.

As our aim was to keep everything as faithful to the PC original as possible, we knew it would be mainly a coding job, with relatively little work needed on the art side. It broke down into a number of tasks - converting the engine itself to get it running on the 360 platform, and the areas where we needed to make changes to better suit the platform - such as the control system, the front end and the integration of Xbox Live.

http://www.3drealms.com/news/2006/03/prey_weekly_dev_9.html

MAT
03-10-2006, 03:17 PM
Although I am not interested in playing Prey on xbox 360, what this guys achieved in such a short period of time is applaudable. Bravo venom games!


Grease Monkey
Can you guess what this achievement is for?



No idea. Will it unveil some Duke Nukem Forever screenshots or something? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif

Kristian Joensen
03-10-2006, 03:17 PM
Cool, looks like they have put alot of work into this.

Cerberus_e
03-10-2006, 03:20 PM
Peter looks a bit like John Carmack http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://www.3drealms.com/prey/images/johnson.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/John_carmack.jpg

Micki!
03-10-2006, 03:27 PM
Nice update... Although, i'm not interested in getting a X360 to play Prey, i'm deffenately glad to hear that both gamers will get a similar gaming experience...


MAT said:


Grease Monkey
Can you guess what this achievement is for?



No idea. Will it unveil some Duke Nukem Forever screenshots or something? http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hhg.gif



It has deffenately something to do with using the Wrench as a weapon...
My guess, is it's winning a MultiPrey fight, with using wrench only... http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

SyntaxN
03-10-2006, 03:49 PM
Nice update, but the controler setup for the crouching looks a little bit strange imo, in most shooters for the Xbox (and it always worked) you can crouch with a click on the right stick and not with the B button...

ultra tree 85!
03-10-2006, 04:09 PM
Cool! I didn't know that venom games had just started working on it around june 2005! I hope everything goes well with their work. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

George Broussard
03-10-2006, 05:21 PM
SyntaxN said:
Nice update, but the controler setup for the crouching looks a little bit strange imo, in most shooters for the Xbox (and it always worked) you can crouch with a click on the right stick and not with the B button...


There will be multiple configs and I'm certatin we will default to different controls, more along the lines of what's standard on 360 shooters.

Kristian Joensen
03-10-2006, 05:24 PM
George, have you guys at 3DR got Xbox 360 development kits to test Prey with yet ?

SyntaxN
03-10-2006, 05:25 PM
George Broussard said:

SyntaxN said:
Nice update, but the controler setup for the crouching looks a little bit strange imo, in most shooters for the Xbox (and it always worked) you can crouch with a click on the right stick and not with the B button...


There will be multiple configs and I'm certatin we will default to different controls, more along the lines of what's standard on 360 shooters.


cool http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
When talking about the 360, I´m curious if there will be splitscreen multiprey for example...

Gamebrain
03-10-2006, 05:27 PM
Doing “Prey” has necessitated putting progress on our other, unannounced, next-gen title on hold for over 6 months



Hmm, wonder what that is.

Dont worry, I know its not DNF (you guys take care of that)
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

KaiserSoze
03-10-2006, 05:33 PM
Kristian Joensen said:
George, have you guys at 3DR got Xbox 360 development kits to test Prey with yet ?



I believe Scott Miller posted in his blog that they recieved devs kits from MS.

Kristian Joensen
03-10-2006, 06:06 PM
He DID ? Last I saw he posted that they still hadn't got them even if they where promised that they should get them.

Edit:


-- "...if I were a cynic I'd almost suspect some sort of cozy arrangement between Microsoft and 3DRealms..."

It's not as cosy as I'd hope. We are still desperately in need of a dev kit from MSoft to test Prey. We could begin testing Duke on a dev kit too, but alas...

And an Xbox magazine just came out rating Prey as the #4 game to look forward to this year (#1 was Halo 3, #2 was Oblivion, #3 I forgot). Bottom-line, it can't come out if we don't get a kit to being play-testing it.

- Scott Miller, February 23th, 2006.

Maniac536
03-11-2006, 10:36 AM
To throw my hat in on the Grease Monkey Idea I think it has to do with killing and killing with the monkey wrench.

Basically doing lots and lots of melee kills with the monkey wrench as your prefered weapon.

I hope I get a prize if I'm right.

-Maniac

Malgon
03-11-2006, 06:20 PM
Even though I don't own a 360, I still found this to be the longest and most interesting update. A lot of good info on how to get Prey to have the closest experience to the PC version. Sounds like a lot of effort they are putting into the development of it. Good read. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

helious
03-12-2006, 06:14 AM
In my oppinion, the X360 version delivers much more than the pc version.

Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..

avatar_58
03-12-2006, 06:17 AM
helious said:
Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..



If that stuff matters to you. Personally I rather like having free online play on PC, and I could care less if other people see how often I play or how many frags I tally up. Especially considering I'd be more interested in Single Player anyway.

Micki!
03-12-2006, 06:20 AM
helious said:
In my oppinion, the X360 version delivers much more than the pc version.

Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..



Well, they're sayiung they're trying to make the X360 version as close to the PC version as possible...
So appearantly there must be something the PC version has, that they're trying to add into the X360 version...

Of course, i realize that this is just your opinion, and i can't demand from you that you have to agree with any of us, or reversed...

Denz
03-12-2006, 06:53 AM
Auto aim sucks. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dopefish.gif










http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


I want mouse and special keyboard for consoles and then i will considere FPS on consoles.

shiranui
03-12-2006, 06:57 AM
avatar_58 said:

helious said:
Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..



If that stuff matters to you. Personally I rather like having free online play on PC, and I could care less if other people see how often I play or how many frags I tally up. Especially considering I'd be more interested in Single Player anyway.



Exactly, who, over the age of 12, honestly gives a shit?

Cerberus_e
03-12-2006, 07:13 AM
Aiming yourself rather than relying on auto-aim, now that's a TRUE achievement http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Gryph
03-12-2006, 10:48 AM
shiranui said:

avatar_58 said:

helious said:
Achievements, Gamescore, Live! (Nothing at pc can never come close to Live!), ..
.Im glad to hear about all the exstras they are making to the X360 version..



If that stuff matters to you. Personally I rather like having free online play on PC, and I could care less if other people see how often I play or how many frags I tally up. Especially considering I'd be more interested in Single Player anyway.



Exactly, who, over the age of 12, honestly gives a shit?


Seriously. I'm surprised so many people care about Achievements and GamerScore. It's like those guys that put their PC specs in their sig to wave their e-penis.

That being said the only advantage X360 version has is the Live integration.

hell-angel
03-13-2006, 02:00 AM
I didn't read all of it since I am totally not interested in an Xbox version. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Still, there where some interesting parts on porting, more so since I once made a port of MAME (I know, it's not as big as prey but some principles are the same. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )

ShadeEX
03-13-2006, 03:36 AM
Nice update... i especially like the thing about the menu with talons eye... looks cool...

Joe Siegler
03-23-2006, 10:04 AM
http://www.3drealms.com/prey/images/xbla3.png

No more guesses on what this "Grease Monkey" Xbox 360 Achivement is about? I haven't seen anyone get it quite right yet.

Micki!
03-23-2006, 10:29 AM
http://www.3drealms.com/prey/images/xbla3.png

No more guesses on what this "Grease Monkey" Xbox 360 Achivement is about? I haven't seen anyone get it quite right yet.

My guess was something with the wrench... But appearantly it's not the case... :o
Maybe avoiding as many attacks as possible (or even not getting hit once)

Kalki
03-23-2006, 01:17 PM
http://www.3drealms.com/prey/images/xbla3.png

No more guesses on what this "Grease Monkey" Xbox 360 Achivement is about? I haven't seen anyone get it quite right yet.
Vehicular kills? Like in the space combat?

Micki!
03-23-2006, 01:28 PM
^^
Yeah, maybe bumping into players on foot with vehicles..?! (instead of using weapons)

hell-angel
03-24-2006, 01:52 AM
A grease monkey is usually a mechanic who repairs the ships. So I guess it has something to do with that. :)

Micki!
03-24-2006, 03:17 AM
A grease monkey is usually a mechanic who repairs the ships. So I guess it has something to do with that. :)

Yes, a Grease monkey is some sort of nickname for mechanics/engineers...
So that's why i was counting on the wrench (since it's a mechanics tool):cool:

Would be cool if Tommy could repair ships with the wrench...:D

Kalki
03-24-2006, 04:03 AM
Perhaps it involves killing with the mass tow on the shuttle. Or using it to fling the wrench & skewer enemies.

Cerberus_e
03-24-2006, 09:02 AM
Yes, a Grease monkey is some sort of nickname for mechanics/engineers...
So that's why i was counting on the wrench (since it's a mechanics tool):cool:


Let's combine the two then: a grease monkey destroys a ship with the wrench :D

hell-angel
03-24-2006, 09:24 AM
Let's combine the two then: a grease monkey destroys a ship with the wrench :D

And by accident Cerberus_e guesses it right when he tries to make a joke. (well, I don't know of course, but that is just what immediately popped into my head. ;) )

Micki!
03-24-2006, 10:16 AM
And by accident Cerberus_e guesses it right when he tries to make a joke. (well, I don't know of course, but that is just what immediately popped into my head. ;) )

I could actually imagine that happen... :D

Joe Siegler
03-24-2006, 10:41 AM
OK, it does involve the wrench. :)

Cerberus_e
03-24-2006, 11:43 AM
Killing a boss with the wrench?

Talos
03-24-2006, 12:09 PM
Killing everything with the wrench *g*?

Micki!
03-24-2006, 04:30 PM
My very first guess was beating certain amounts of Multiprey oppenents with the wrench...

Maybe beat a cettain amount of enemies with the wrench... Or just beat a few/buch of levels with it...

Kristian Joensen
03-24-2006, 05:09 PM
Killing everything with the wrench *g*?

This might well be it considering that Tim, mentioned that it was possible because of their weapon balancing in the newest interview.

Joe Siegler
03-24-2006, 05:13 PM
If someone guesses the right answer, I'll say so. Hasn't happened yet. :)

Micki!
03-24-2006, 05:15 PM
Using Alternate fire with Wrench only, or reversed, only using Ptimary..!?

Cerberus_e
03-25-2006, 05:43 AM
- Going through the game without picking up a weapon (so only carrying the wrench (and bow) until the end of the game), if that's possible even because there might be bosses that you have to shoot a weak point high in the air of.

- Killing a certain amount of opponents in ddeathmatch with the wrench, one after another (so no using of other weapons between 2 kills with the wrench). A bit like Micki!'s guess, only that you don't have to win.

- Hanging in a tree with the wrench before the aliens arrive :D (yes hell-angel maybe :D)

Talos
03-25-2006, 06:51 AM
Killing someone with the wrench while wallwalking?
Btw: Will killed enemy in Multiprey fall of the wallwalk paths when they get killed? :D

Kalki
03-25-2006, 06:54 AM
Causing kills by using the wrench to mess up gravity flips and anti-grav walkways?

Edit: I absolutely did NOT see TaloS' post before I posted!

Malgon
03-28-2006, 05:10 AM
It's a multiplayer thing I'm guessing, so I reckon it's just someone who racks up an enormous amount of wrench kills across multiple games. A badge of honour of sorts. I don't know just grabbing at straws here, haven't read the thread in a while! :D

hell-angel
03-28-2006, 08:05 AM
Aren't the achievements meant to be for SP only?

Micki!
03-28-2006, 08:53 AM
Aren't the achievements meant to be for SP only?
I have no idea about that...
I haven't heard of those achievements before it was mentioned here...

But why shouldn't it be for both anyways..?! It's not like you actually miss anything when not getting an achievement (say, if you're not able to play MP)...

Cerberus_e
03-28-2006, 09:25 AM
- Killing a monkey with the wrench. You have to find them in the forest first. But you have to find the forest even firster (yeah, find that in the reservat where Tommy lives! :D). Of course, you have to take into account that most Oasises you'll find will be fata morganas.

Micki!
03-28-2006, 10:40 AM
^^
And you'll have to find the RIGHT oasis, hinted by certain fata morganas, which you'll have to find in the RIGHT side of the desert, in the RIGHT direction, on the RIGHT continent, doing the RIGHT actions to...

...Ok, this is going nowhere, let it just be in some portal, or somewhere in the actual level, without being TOO obvious... :o

Cerberus_e
04-14-2006, 07:06 PM
I got it! A grease monkey uses his wrench on an asteroid :dopefish:

Kalki
04-15-2006, 12:25 AM
Throwing the wrench (through a portal) to get a kill.

Micki!
04-15-2006, 03:41 AM
I got it! A grease monkey uses his wrench on an asteroid :dopefish:

No no... You have to hit THE monkey with a wrench on an astroid...;)
Or was it the other way around... :o

Hitting the wrench with the monkey..?! :hhg: