5 BSODs, 1 Hour...

[Phayzon]

So about an hour ago I was playing DS2 and my computer bluescreened and restarted. I figured things like that just happen, so I let it restart and as soon as I was finished logging on it did it again. Then I was able to stay on for about 10min (long enough to start doing something) and it did it agian. Then I took a break to play my 360 and it just idled and did it AGAIN! Just after that it did it immeadiatly after loading Windows. I got a BSOD yesterday also, and I ran a virus scan and spyware scan and both turned up nothing, so I doubt its virul. I did manage to see something like IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL on the BSOD before the reboot. Any ideas?

[avatar_58]

I'd start backing up all your important stuff. This is what my machine did before the HD went kaput. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Xerxes]

Phayzon said:IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL on the BSOD before the reboot. Any ideas?



Driver problem?

I don't know much about hardware though.

[NutWrench]

How hot is your computer running?

[Phayzon]

avatar_58 said:
I'd start backing up all your important stuff. This is what my machine did before the HD went kaput. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif



Dude, I bought it from Alienware for Christmas, trust me, the HD isnt going.

How hot? I dont think it runs that how. (Shit, just BSODed again, im on my laptop now)

Oh, and it actually says

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

EDIT: I got into the BIOS setup to look at temps:

CPU: 40C
M/B (I guess thats the Mobo): 34C

Thats not that hot.

I didnt install any new Hardware/Drivers lately, so I dont think its that. Unless its a sound driver, becasue after I turned off reboot on error and let it sit at the BSOD, i occasionally hear sound (from DS2, since it BSODed while playing)

[NutWrench]

Does the computer boot in Safe Mode?
If it does, does it remain stable? (no BSODs?)
If it is stable in Safe Mode, check you Device Manager? Are there any error messages?
Also, check your Event Viewer. Did it record the error?

[Phayzon]

NutWrench said:
Does the computer boot in Safe Mode?
If it does, does it remain stable? (no BSODs?)
If it is stable in Safe Mode, check you Device Manager? Are there any error messages?
Also, check your Event Viewer. Did it record the error?



Ill try Safe Mode after the next BSOD.

How do I check the Event Viewer (havnt had to do it in a long time) ?

[NutWrench]

Start --> Control Panel --> Performance and Maintenance --> Administrative Tools --> Event Viewer

(There's probably a way to do it directly from Start --> Run, but I forgot. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )

[Phayzon]

Thanks, ill do that after chkdsk is done running.

EDIT: In Event Viewer, would I be looking for something like:

"The COM+ Event System detected a bad return code during its internal processing. HRESULT was C0000005 from line 44 of d:\qxp_slp\com\com1x\src\events\tier1\eventsystemo bj.cpp. Please contact Microsoft Product Support Services to report this error.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp." (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.)

?

[Metal Boss]

Might be a heat issue, a ram issue, possibly even a video card issue.

[NutWrench]

Do you have a system Restore Point from yesterday? (or earlier)
Give that a try.

[Phayzon]

@Metal Boss

40C isnt thta hot, and being about 3 months old, I seriously dout that my RAM and GPU are dying.



NutWrench said:
Do you have a system Restore Point from yesterday? (or earlier)
Give that a try.



Nope http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[avatar_58]

Phayzon said:

Dude, I bought it from Alienware for Christmas, trust me, the HD isnt going.




Dude: mine was just as new when it croaked. Don't you recall the outrage I had? it sucks hard, but sometimes HDs have severe issues, or were defective coming off the assembly.

All I know is that I had an HD less than 6 months old die on me for no reason and it started out as harmless BSOD. Then windows didn't boot. Then the shit hit the fan, and I couldn't back up my stuff.

And just so you know, IRQL_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL was the exact message I was getting. It is supposed to refer to hardware, but I've dubbed it the "generic xp" error because of the amount of causes that make it appear.

[Phayzon]

wouldnt DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL lead say hmm... a driver issue?

[Wamplet]

If you have the latest drivers, you can try singling out ram.

Also, you can force it to do a chkdsk on reboot. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Also, when you reboot and if it asks you to report it to microsoft, do it and it will hopefully give you a more exact cause.

[Phayzon]

Wamplet said:
If you have the latest drivers, you can try singling out ram.

Also, you can force it to do a chkdsk on reboot. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Also, when you reboot and if it asks you to report it to microsoft, do it and it will hopefully give you a more exact cause.



After the 6th or so BSOD I noticed my 7800GT's drivers were out of date, but updating didnt fix it, i had 2 (i think) since.

I did run chkdsk.

And I did report it, but got no responce other than "Error Reporting Complete".

[Ecmaster76]

avatar_58 is right. You shouldn't assume it isn't a drive failure. Especially if you haven't messed with anything recently.

That error message is extremely generic. Generally it is a symptom of data corruption this can be cause by buggy software/drivers, ram, or even a bad hard drive ('cause thats where the page file lives).

It never hurts to back up your crap. If you don't have anything worth backing up, don't worry about it.

[avatar_58]

Phayzon said:
wouldnt DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL lead say hmm... a driver issue?



It says many things, but what happens when it occurs in an PC that hasn't changed drivers in months? Thats what happened to me.

EDIT - You bought this from Alienware correct? I assume they already pre-installed XP and other shite right? Maybe a fresh reformat would be helpful, just in case something wasn't okay with their install.

Thats what I would do anyway, just in case. If the BSOD happen after that then there maybe be a more serious issue.

[Phayzon]

Just got another BSOD, heres the Technical Info (if it helps):

STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x240000ED, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xB7A228D4)

HTTP.sys - Address B7A228D4 base at B7A11000, DateStamp 41672744.

Come to think of it, most of the BSODs happened while Ive been playing Dungeon Siege II, perhaps this is the issue? (But then agian, why did I get 3 or so BSODs staring at the desktop?)

[avatar_58]

HTTP.sys eh? That might give us a clue, I'll look around.


I had the problem too, but it also gave me "http.sys". Using Google, I found the answer somewhere else on this forum: http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/38623/?o=740
The A8N-SLI motherboard came with a NVIDIA firewall that I had put to "anti-hacking only". That alone caused the blue screen to come every now and then (once every half an hour or so). I solved it first by setting it back to "medium" and then, being p**sed off by the program in a whole, shut down the entire thing.



http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/15170/?o=20

[NutWrench]

Is your computer or video card overclocked?
Try downloading MemTest (http://www.memtest86.com/) and use it to check out your RAM.

[Phayzon]

THATS IT! I recently changed my Nvidia Firewall to Anti-Hacking only!!! Im chnaging it RIGHT NOW!!! YAY HAPINESS!! ANd I have an Asus A8N-SLI mobo too.

Good timing, i gtg to bed now -_-...

[avatar_58]

Right on, lets hope this fixes the problem. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Metal Boss]

Nvidia problem, go figure

[avatar_58]

Metal Boss said:
Nvidia problem, go figure



Asus, actually....consdering that exact flavour of board is acting up.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

NutWrench said:

Try downloading MemTest (http://www.memtest86.com/) and use it to check out your RAM.



Do that. More than likely one or more ram sticks failed.

[TerminX]

Make sure to use Memtest86+ (http://memtest.org), though. It's much newer and supports a larger variety of chipsets.

[GambitMR]

from my experience this is purely HD related. I'm using an Epox EP-8k3A+ Mainboard with onboard RAID controller.
I tested CPU & RAM with prime 95 torture test and Memtest86 , downclocked both .... no errors in the tests but still bluescreens. Then I tried HDTach 32MB Long bench and it crashed. So I figured full and continuous load would lead to the BSOD. Played Doom3 and when it loads the 3 level (when you get back from investigating) it crashed during loading.
I ran multiple tests on each individual HDD in my RAID Array and all were reporting Good Status.
My guess out of that is, that the RAID controller somehow isn't able to handle full load anymore. I can't prove this yet since I haven#t bought a new one yet ... but cpu & ram are fine and there's not much left ( it crashed with no other pci / addon cards installed, too).

so what you can try is run those tests and eliminate every possible cause that might crash your windows. And if it crashes even when your PC is idle imo it's pretty sure your HD is acting up. you could also try to deactivate the indexing and boot defrag/optimization service since those two access your HD when your PC is idle.

gee .. so I skipped some replies and it turns out the problem is already solved. Well I'll leave my reply for others to read then http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Duoae]

Phayzon said:
Then I took a break to play my 360 and it just idled and did it AGAIN!



There's your problem right there... consolitis!

It's a common occurrance that all PC's are envious of their "living room" counterparts. I'm afraid the only recourse is to give your 360 away, take it out the house. Fortunately there's a nice sanctuary that will take in stray consoles. The address is:

The foundation for unwanted consoles,
Duoae House,
Block 352
Flat 18
PO BOX 510

[Phayzon]

GambitMR said:
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I think you missed my previous post.

[GambitMR]

and I think you missed the last sentence of my previous reply :P

[Jeff]

My dad gets that exact same message which was after we set up the wireless network in the house. Funny thing is, his computer is the one directly connected to the internet and there's no connection, but down here in the basement, I can access here all the time. Only happens when the router is plugged in and/or if we go into safe mode with networking.

[Mediocre, Man.]

When all else fails get a new computer. I think that's what I'll do come the end of the fiscal year. My stupid lame video card has been rather shithouse lately. Damnit.

I might buy a brand tame this time, as opposed to a shitty generic brand. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif

[Phayzon]

I hope that reply wasnt specifically to me...

[Decker]

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is a very ambiguous BSOD message. It can mean anything from a software to a hardware problem. I was having the exact same error message over and over again.

After a ton of reinstalls, a new DVD drive, a new mobo etc...it was indeed a case of a fried memory module :doh: If driver reinstalls and such don't help, I'd start running memtest and removing/replacing the sticks one by one.

<edit> oh I see you guys solved it. Glad it wasn't worse than that. But NVidia FW is indeed a minion of the Antichrist.

[oak man]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/328960267_908f8cfd6b_o.png
was that the error message?

[ZuljinRaynor]

Ah, the good old nVidia Firewall and ASUS mobo thing. Had the same problem. The nVidia firewall is garbage IMO.

[peoplessi]

It is, and it is not only with ASUS, every manufacturer that used those chipsets, nf3/nf4 had the issue. It corrupts data most of the time, but causes BSOD too.

[Wamplet]

Start --> Control Panel --> Performance and Maintenance --> Administrative Tools --> Event Viewer

(There's probably a way to do it directly from Start --> Run, but I forgot. http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif )

For reference, the start-run command for it is "eventvwr"

[Jiminator]

check the dates, someone dug up an old thread

[Hudson]

Ugh necropost.

[hopje_NL]

funny :D