Is there a Shadow Warrior Walmart edition?

[Usurper]

I never thought I'd post anything about Walmart (yea prices!; boo censorship!)...

I got my SW at Walmart, and it occured to me that it should, given Walmart's record, be censored. The suicide chick is still in the art files, nipples and all, and Wang still swears. If there is no edited version, how on earth did this get by Walmart's family values police, and if it is edited, what got cut?


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[Yenji]

I got my first copy at walmart and then i bought a pack of duke3d and sw together. i noticed no difference between the wal mart one i bought and the other

[Dukebert]

Beats me.

Who is the suicide chick?

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[Usurper]

The suicide chick is what I call the anime girl who impales herself on a sword. It's the only case of a totally topless character that I know of in a 3DR game. Too bad she's dead/dying. If I'm going to see nudity, cartoon or otherwise, I prefer the chick healthy.

Oh, thanks for the speedy reply by the way.

P.S. What's with the review topic link? Is that just for netscape, because I was in here before with ie 3.02 and it came up in a box.

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[Dukebert]

Thanks.
I guess it's been a while since I've
played Shadow Warrior!

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[Guest]

Hey Usurper, how do you get to see all the art files?

[Guest]

Load 'em up in EditArt or look at them in Build. There's also this program called Artview, I think, which will display each tile in an art file separately. I think you can get it at Dukeworld.com.

I guess they figured children that are too young to figure out how to disable a perental lock wouldn't figure out how to see those tiles. Anyways, if your children use Build for Shadow Warrior, just edit the tile (or I think you can delete it). Maybe Walmart just checks the actual game, not the editing tools.

[This message has been edited by lokust2 (edited 07-03-1999).]

[Guest]

Well, no, because I got my Shadow Warrior at Wal-Mart also, and its not censored at all...I think Wal-Mart stopped editing their games, because they are selling Aliens vs. Predator, Unreal, Duke 3D, Resident Evil 2, and many more violent games, and none of them had the little sticker on the box saying that the game was censored...

[Guest]

I bought my SW at Walmart a while ago and it was sensored. The game still had all the sounds and anime girls in the data files, but it didn't display them. I had to download a patch to fix it.

The suicide girl isn't in the game at all... I think. I extracted all of the levels and ran a sprite search for her number and I couldn't find here. I know she's in the data file, but I couldn't find her in any of the levels.

[Yenji]

I now own a non walmart edition and i never seen the red anime girl who kills herself in the levels either.....has anyone?

[Guest]

Exactly how do I see art files in Edit-art? Whenever I load it and type in G then type in a number and press enter, no art files show up!

[ryche]

Just forget Walmart and buy your games somewhere else http://3drealms.3dportal.com/ubb/images/icons/smile.gif

That's what I always have done since they said Walmart locked the censorship on Duke3d.

[Yenji]

If you don't wanna edit them just look at them in build. But anyways to look at them in edit art go into your sw folder in dos (make sure you have kextract in it) and type kextract sw.grp *.art

then when you try and look at them in edit art they will come up

[This message has been edited by Yenji (edited 07-05-1999).]

[Guest]

Ok, that didnt work. How do I look at art files in Build?

[Yenji]

1st make a room. (use space to plot points) press keypad enter to go into 3d mode point toward a wall, floor or ceiling and press v. All the build files must be in the same folder as sw.exe and grp to work i believe or 3d mode won't work

[Guest]

Damn it, wont anyone tell me how to use Editart? I just want to look at the art files. I dont want to edit them.

[Usurper]

To run editart for SW:

After you install SW, there's a folder in your SW dir called 'build'. On the command line type cd\sw\build to go to the build folder. Then type kextract C:\sw\sw.grp *.art to extract the art tiles into the build folder. Then type editart to run editart.

(Duke3d editart guide at my site; essentially the same as SW)



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[Guest]

What level is the suicide chick in?

[Guest]

the red headed girl isnt in any of the levels, they just have her in the art.

[Carger2000]

Yep, thats true. I can understand why, if want to know ask me. I'll explain. BTW For more "chicks" try the level "Bar" Pretty funny art file included.

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[Guest]

Yeah, the red suicide chick is the only chick in a 3DR game ever to be explicitly topless. Except that robot chick in Duke Atmoic, the topless damaged one with no lower torso lying on the floor. Except it had no nipples.

Anyways hopefully there' be actual nudity in DNF. Imagine, high-poly, high-res jiggling boobs. Then you can blow her to bits and aliens respawn and attack you, of course. http://www.3drealms.com/ubb/images/icons/wink.gif

[Joe Siegler]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Anyways hopefully there' be actual nudity in DNF.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not gonna happen.

Getting back to the original question - I can't remember if there is a Walmart edition. I know in Europe, we coudln't legally sell the game with the Shurikens in the game - they had to be replaced with darts.

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[Delphi Dude]

I'm not sure, but I believe it was only so in the UK, the SW version released in Holland did have the shurikens.

[Carger2000]

Thankfully it has...

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[Guest]

I need some of the Shadow Warrior fans in this forum to help me out. You know the files TILES000.ART & TILES021.ART which are required to view SWBUILD'S 3d edit mode? Well I think I lost the files and I don't know where I can get them or how I can get them back. I can't even find them on the CD.

[Guest]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I know in Europe, we coudln't legally sell the game with the Shurikens in the game - they had to be replaced with darts.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> and why is that?


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[Carger2000]

The art files are hidden in the "Sw.grp" file. Extract them with this command:

kextract sw.grp *.art

Perhaps Mission-X wasn't working because of that btw.

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[Delphi Dude]

Government regulations. The UK (or England at least) has pretty strict laws when it comes to nudity and violence in the media. Same thing goes for Germany.

Erica Terpstra tried passing laws in Holland to prevent violent games from being sold, but failed. This whole issue was triggered by the release of Carmageddon, a substandard game by any measure, but which sold primarily because of the whole controversy.

[Guest]

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The art files are hidden in the "Sw.grp" file. Extract them with this command:
kextract sw.grp *.art
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How do I use kextract? Could you please be a little more specific because everything I've tried still doesn't work.

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[Carger2000]

You go inside your main SW directory (c:\sw)
then type (at the dos command line):
kextract.exe sw.grp *.art <enter>
Kextract will now extract all tile files from
the Sw.Grp file.


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[cyborg]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Crosma:
It's true, all of it. Our government is getting more lenient of late, which can only be a good thing.

Both Carmageddon and Grand Theft Auto were almost banned, and both are British games.

Nudity in the British media is extremely taboo. Although I'm not against nudity (at least, not as often as I'd like).

BTW, Germany isn't concerned about nudity in the media, but violence is.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Weird how chainsaws and rocket launchers (in various ID games) are considered LESS violent than Shuriken...
As usual, these things stem from historical incidents and don't really have any logic to them.
Anyway, the basic reason why shuriken, nun chuks, and other weapons are banned from media is because the BBFC consider them too easy to produce for a teenager with access to the media. This was all decided at a time in the early eightees where video censoring had only just started and before that you could get just about ANYTHING on video at ANY age.
Of course, in the age of the internet and global communications these censorship laws are pantently stupid, even 3DR has a Shuriken patch availible for download and I got the shareware version with shuriken in it (also, I noticed in the art, with the replacement darts).



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[Guest]

"Nudity in the British media is extremely taboo. Although I'm not against nudity (at least, not as often as I'd like)."

HAHAHAHAHAHA, Have you ever watched ANY British TV? They have plenty of nudity all over public television! Ever watched Topless Darts? Or Lexx? Nudity is certainly not that taboo in Britain, when compared to America.

[Crosma]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Delphi Dude:
Government regulations. The UK (or England at least) has pretty strict laws when it comes to nudity and violence in the media. Same thing goes for Germany.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's true, all of it. Our government is getting more lenient of late, which can only be a good thing.

Both Carmageddon and Grand Theft Auto were almost banned, and both are British games.

Nudity in the British media is extremely taboo. Although I'm not against nudity (at least, not as often as I'd like).

BTW, Germany isn't concerned about nudity in the media, but violence is.

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[cyborg]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bobaverill:
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Being, as he is, from the UK, I'd say, it might be a possibility.



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[Crosma]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bobaverill:
HAHAHAHAHAHA, Have you ever watched ANY British TV? They have plenty of nudity all over public television! Ever watched Topless Darts? Or Lexx? Nudity is certainly not that taboo in Britain, when compared to America.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I live in the UK, so yes, I watch a lot of British TV. Lexx is American/German (not British) hybid sci-fi comedy show, and every episode I've seen had no nudity (perhaps it was cut out).

BTW, the company that made Topless Darts was closed down due to breaking nudity laws.

Bob, I don't know where you get your information from.

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[This message has been edited by Crosma (edited 05-14-2000).]

[Guest]

Lexx is actually Canadian/German. Can you image the American Networks actually making something like that?

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[Guest]

That's my point. Anyways the Lexx series discusses sex every 3 seconds, and yes, many episodes do have nudity. My point was that American television is alot more heavily cencored than British television.

P.S. Shame they cancelled Topless Darts.
Fine peice of athletic tlevising, that.

[Guest]

I live in Scotland and they wouldn't give
a shit if they werent being ruled by
England.

[Guest]

<quote>You go inside your main SW directory (c:\sw)
then type (at the dos command line):
kextract.exe sw.grp *.art <enter>
Kextract will now extract all tile files from
the Sw.Grp file.</quote>

So much for kextract. I ended up downloading group file studio and using that to extract files. Thanks anyway though.


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