Official F.E.A.R Discussion Thread Pt 2

[ADM]

The other thread (http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10452) was getting too big so time for a new thread.

So Extraction Point .. yay :) Hopefully we see the trailer tomorrow.

[Malgon]

New trailer should be good. Might find out some more specifics about the game. :)

[Water12356]

A trailer for the next one? (yes im a little behiend...)

[ADM]

Supposedly there will be a trailer shown for Extraction Point when the expo starts (tomorrow)

[Damien_Azreal]

Which I am completely hyped about. Straton said the new trailer for Extraction Point will be awesome, but all the really good stuff is not in the trailer.

So I'm completely hyped up and ready for. Thankfully I'll be out of twon most of Wednesday, so I'm hoping when I get home it'll be released and I can watch it! :D

[avatar_58]

Which I am completely hyped about. Straton said the new trailer for Extraction Point will be awesome, but all the really good stuff is not in the trailer.

So I'm completely hyped up and ready for. Thankfully I'll be out of twon most of Wednesday, so I'm hoping when I get home it'll be released and I can watch it! :D

*gets ready to send a "ZOMG GO SEE THIS" pm to Damien*

:D

[Damien_Azreal]

I'll be waiting patiently for it. ;)

[Hudson]

Extraction Point not being done by Monolith... I'm weary about this one..

[avatar_58]

Extraction Point not being done by Monolith... I'm weary about this one..

Yep. I'm a little more hyped for the sequel that they are working on under a new name.

[Damien_Azreal]

With Lith overseeing development I'm still hyped. :D

My only concern is by their website, it looks as is Timegate hasn't done a FPS before. Is this true? All I found on their site was RTS.

[ZuljinRaynor]

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/events/e32006/articles/fear-preview.htm

[ZuljinRaynor]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/706/706480p1.html
More on teh expansion.

[Orochi Avlis]

Great read.

But how come the soldiers are active?

[Damien_Azreal]

This is possibly my fav new image. :D

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/706/706480/fear-extraction-point-20060509053922503.jpg

[avatar_58]

Great read.

But how come the soldiers are active?


Maybe Alma is in control now? Then again why is she killing them.....?

[Damien_Azreal]

Would make sense, she was technically controlling Paxton in FEAR... maybe she could use his thoughts (even after being dead) to control the soldiers.

[avatar_58]

By the way...new weapon in that first shot?

(ign is being a pissant about linking)

[Orochi Avlis]

I thought about that.

[Damien_Azreal]

By the way...new weapon in that first shot?

(ign is being a pissant about linking)

Minigun.

200 rounds in nothing flat. :cool:

This pic?

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/706/706480/fear-extraction-point-20060509053920722.jpg

[Travis]

Why is she a little kid again?

The screenshots are cool though. Train station = :love:.

[Damien_Azreal]

The demo level today showed off some of the game's Xbox Live functionality from a single player perspective. F.E.A.R. on the 360 will come equipped with an "instant action" mode unavailable on the PC. Basically, this just drops players into levels of the game and challenges them to get through them as fast, as accurate, and as lethal as possible.

Well... I can honestly say I'm not upset in the least bit about some of the Xbox exclusive stuff for FEAR. This just sounds like a mode that SiN: E has as well.

And they added an acheivements section, I'm glad I have the PC version. :D

EDIT: Just watched the Xbox 360 video and looked at some screens. I now it's still early and the game isn't out for it yet. But in the screens the textures don't look as sharp, and certain effects (the bullets holes in floors and walls) don't looks as crisp.
As for the video... it seems to be the same demo we had for PC. Bits of the first few levels thrwon together. But the AI looks to have been dumbed down. He took out two enemies and they mostly just stood there and let him shoot.
He took out a heavy armor, and instead of it unloading into him with the nail gun as it does everytime I play. It stood there and took three shotgun blast and died.

Hopefully they'll tune things up more... but looks right now as if the 360 is getting a dumbed down verison of FEAR.

[Orochi Avlis]

Why is she a little kid again?

Hey, your right.

[Damien_Azreal]

Teaser vid for Extraction Point is up at ign.

[Orochi Avlis]

The minigun rocks.

And is that Fettel rising from the ground before the door shuts?

[ZuljinRaynor]

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2672
360 videos.

[avatar_58]

Teaser vid for Extraction Point is up at ign.

Love the minigun, but the trailer didn't show too much.

[Travis]

I saw both of the videos on Gamespot...I'm even more interested now.

[Damien_Azreal]

New video on Gamespot, very cool interview.

Monolith helped TimeGate write the story for the expansion, and are overseeing development.
They are hoping for it to be about 6 to 8 hours in length. :cool:
This time around the soldiers are hunting the player, instead of the player hunting Fettle.
There will be a Church level. :cool: :woot:

Environments will be destructible even more, it shows them blowing up big steel girders like you see in Malls and such.

Can't wait. Fall 06... this is turning out to be a great year. :D

[avatar_58]

New video on Gamespot, very cool interview.

Monolith helped TimeGate write the story for the expansion, and are overseeing development.
They are hoping for it to be about 6 to 8 hours in length. :cool:
This time around the soldiers are hunting the player, instead of the player hunting Fettle.
There will be a Church level. :cool: :woot:

Environments will be destructible even more, it shows them blowing up big steel girders like you see in Malls and such.

Can't wait. Fall 06... this is turning out to be a great year. :D

I just watched it, sounds pretty cool. Unfiortunately he seemed to be missing some questions such as: "Will it be a seperate multiplayer game" and "Will the slomo be different or the same" and he went into a sort of PR standpoint talking about the originals. I guess thats sort of expected from a publisher, but I kind of wanted to know the answers....:o

[Damien_Azreal]

Can't give everything away. :)

But I love when asked about future expansions he avoided the question as well. It's a possibility.
And the future patch brings us a new online gameplay mod! :D

[Malgon]

So how many videos are there now for EP? I downloaded one that just had mainly action in it. The Minigun seemed to fit in nicely with the rest of FEAR's style imo. :)

[Damien_Azreal]

There are 2 gameplay videos and an video interview. Straton said there was an actual trailer they had put together but he hasn't seen it up on any website.

[Malgon]

Cheers, I'll have to Download whatever I don't have. :)

[Phayzon]

My early-birthday gift this year was FEAR Director's Edition. I started playing it (On max settings, save AA, btw) and it is AWESOME. I skipped the intros since a (n impatient) friend was over, so I really have no clue whats going on, but its way cool so far ;)

[ZuljinRaynor]

If you skip the scenes, then don't come asking about the story. :p :tinyted:

[Cerberus_e]

Nothing is keeping you from clicking "new game".
You'll see the intro and you won't loose your progress.

[Damien_Azreal]

The intro in FEAR is awesome. My fav intro ever... you should go back and watch it.
Save your game and then start a new one... or just start over. FEAR is a great game, and there's no shame in starting again. :D

[TerminX]

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/488/fearscore3or.th.png (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fearscore3or.png)

Heheh, I got banned after that.

[Micki!]

^^
Crap, why..? :o

I'm looking forward to this Expansion... :) Although, i wich the minigun looked more like the one from AVP 2 (this one sounded cool aswell) :cool: Well, it's gonna be great anyways, i'm sure...

[TerminX]

F.E.A.R. 1.05 is out.

Full US English patch (ftp://ftp.sierra.com/pub/sierra/fear/updates/fear_update_en_100-104_105.exe) (~402 MB)
English 1.04 -> 1.05 patch (ftp://ftp.sierra.com/pub/sierra/fear/updates/fear_update_en_104_105.exe) (~145 MB)
Other languages (ftp://ftp.sierra.com/pub/sierra/fear/updates/)

This is supposed to add new game types and new maps among other things.

Micki: because some people can't handle an ass beating. ;)

[Micki!]

Micki: because some people can't handle an ass beating. ;)

Haha, so true... :D

[Damien_Azreal]

Thanks for the new patch TX. :D

I love playing against you man, I always get my ass kicked... but it's fun and challenging to play against someone that good. It's the best way to learn and get better yourself.

[avatar_58]

Fileshack made an oopsie.....they put the small update in place of the full, and vice versa. So if you are going to download from that place make sure you go for the small update....which is listed at 400mb :D


EDIT - How nice of them not to state savegames from previous patches don't work. The game just crashes....I just started a new game and it worked......arg.

[TerminX]

Wow, multiplayer has really been re-balanced in this patch. I love it! It's no longer possible to horde medkits, because players no longer drop them. Instead, they drop a health booster that's like a medkit, only it has instant effect and you can't carry a stash of them. There are, however, more of the normal medkits laying around the various maps than there were previously. Also, the G2A2 magazine is now 30 rounds instead of 45, which was another needed change.

Mm, I think we should all play a game later.

[avatar_58]

That medkit change was really needed, but that magazine one was probably what messed up my savegame.....damnit. I hate it when multiplayer influences singleplayer.....theres no reason why they couldn't just change MP values and leave SP alone.

[Damien_Azreal]

I guess I'll have to download the patch huh? :D Opps... I didn't even download 1.4, well got me some downloading to do.

[Orochi Avlis]

I've started a server.
Orochi's 3DR Server. The password is dopefish. You will need the 1.05 patch BTW.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Dammit, have the server up tomorrow please. Can't play right now. :(

[DavoX]

Can you slow time in real life like the guy in F.E.A.R.? It seems that you can, check this out :

http://www.grasshopper.com/mind-games/why-did-time-stop/

[Damien_Azreal]

That was fun.

Just me and TernimX running around, he kicked my ass. :D But, it was sortof a training match as well, TX gave me some pointers. :)

[Orochi Avlis]

I just got in 10 minutes before you guys stopped.

[Damien_Azreal]

Yeah, we finished that one round we were on when you left. And then in the next round TX stopped me and was showing me some stuff.

He said I was getting better, so I need to practice some and go from there. But I was very happy a few times... got some good kills on him. :D

[avatar_58]

I hear they added two new multiplayer maps, haven't tried them yet....are they good for MP?

[Orochi Avlis]

Cafeteria is fine.
Haven't tried Heliport yet.

[avatar_58]

Am I dreaming, or does cafetria remind you a little of the UNITY base in NOLF2? For some reason the layout just struck me......:o

Helipad is the other? Have to try that one.

[Damien_Azreal]

I liked the Cafeteria map, felt very cool. And yeah avatar... it reminded me of NOLF 2 as well.
We didn't make it to Helipad last night.

[avatar_58]

I liked the Cafeteria map, felt very cool. And yeah avatar... it reminded me of NOLF 2 as well.
We didn't make it to Helipad last night.

Thank god....I thought I was just dreaming. :D I half expected to see a mime pop out and tell me "They all deserve to die, mon ami!"

[Orochi Avlis]

Server's going back up today.

Orochi's 3DR Server; password is dopefish.

[avatar_58]

Server's going back up today.

Orochi's 3DR Server; password is dopefish.


I'm in...

EDIT - No one? :(

(btw orochi - it seems asylum might be what messes up my sound. I played through 80% of the single player game without any issues, and yet 10 minutes into asylum it messes up. Wierd...)

[YicklePigeon]

Thank god....I thought I was just dreaming. :D I half expected to see a mime pop out and tell me "They all deserve to die, mon ami!"

Ha! I was thinking "Could Acting Director Lawrie please report to the War Room immediately!" and all I could hear in my head was NOLF2 music. But the layout does indeed come across as akin to what the UNITY base would have been in NOLF2 if it was turned into a DM map...

Regards,

Yickle.

[Damien_Azreal]

Me and avatar are heading in... anyone else?

[avatar_58]

That was fun :D

[Orochi Avlis]

I'm in...

EDIT - No one? :(

(btw orochi - it seems asylum might be what messes up my sound. I played through 80% of the single player game without any issues, and yet 10 minutes into asylum it messes up. Wierd...)
It's not the map, but rather MP itself.

[avatar_58]

It's not the map, but rather MP itself.

I thought so too, but it didn't come up in the three maps I played today. Only asylum. I'm going to test it later to be sure.

[TerminX]

It's not the map, but rather MP itself.
Nah, it's probably Asylum. The map has a ton of problems. Most people won't play it, for good reason... it takes forever to load, it's very badly optimized and thus very slow, it's too big to actually play a DM on, et cetera. That map is a great way to clear out a server. ;)

[Phayzon]

I got F.E.A.R. DVD Edition this past weekend (as an early birthday gift). I love it so far :love: Im at the level "Bishop" IIRC.

[Phayzon]

Anyone haveing a problem with 1.05, or is it just me? After I installed the patch I cant play Single Player anymore (Loads level, then crashes) :(

[skeletor]

It might be that your savegame is corrupt due to the update... have you tried starting the game from the beginning again?

[avatar_58]

Anyone haveing a problem with 1.05, or is it just me? After I installed the patch I cant play Single Player anymore (Loads level, then crashes) :(

As I said earlier, savegames are not compatible. If I were you I'd just reinstall FEAR and only update to 1.04 and finish SP before updating to 1.05

[TerminX]

There's also a patch that some whiny newbies created to roll back to 1.04 because they didn't like the 1.05 multiplayer balance changes. ;)

[Orochi Avlis]

There's also a patch that some whiny newbies created to roll back to 1.04 because they didn't like the 1.05 multiplayer balance changes. ;)
/plays the world's smallest violin.

It's much better this way IMO.

[avatar_58]

There's also a patch that some whiny newbies created to roll back to 1.04 because they didn't like the 1.05 multiplayer balance changes. ;)

They removed dropped medkits and 15 bullets and it causes an uproar? Wow....

[TerminX]

They removed dropped medkits and 15 bullets and it causes an uproar? Wow....
They fixed some melee bugs as well. All of the whiny f*cks that are supposedly "good" players are up in arms about it because they can't exploit glitches to reload in half a second or carry a spare 500 health that they didn't earn around anymore.

[Orochi Avlis]

They fixed some melee bugs as well. All of the whiny f*cks that are supposedly "good" players are up in arms about it because they can't exploit glitches to reload in half a second or carry a spare 500 health that they didn't earn around anymore.
Much like how the AWP whores complained about the shield and how Valve removed the quick reload bug from CS 1.6.

[TerminX]

Much like how the AWP whores complained about the shield and how Valve removed the quick reload bug from CS 1.6.
Yep.. they're f*ckin' newbies that are unable to adapt to necessary changes and that can't win without utilizing an advantage over opponents. They're whining about how people who are really awful at the game can get lucky and kill them now... maybe they should try not getting shot. ;)

[avatar_58]

Personally I found I play a little better now because I used to always use dropped kits right away....which took about 3 seconds. Now its instant :)

Melee bugs? Did a readme come with this update? I'm curious how much was fixed. The only melee problem I experienced was getting killed when clearly the attacker missed me by a mile.

[TerminX]

There were a bunch of animation bugs that let people rapidly use melee attacks if certain actions were quickly performed over and over in an unusual order. For instance, if you held down the melee button while unarmed and then hammered the crouch key, it would instantly punch every time the key was hit.

[avatar_58]

There were a bunch of animation bugs that let people rapidly use melee attacks if certain actions were quickly performed over and over in an unusual order. For instance, if you held down the melee button while unarmed and then hammered the crouch key, it would instantly punch every time the key was hit.

Really? Never noticed, though my favourite bug was taken out before the game hit gold...:( I used to like using melee kicks to get on top of boxes, but then when you think about it, its probably best left out to avoid mis-use.

[TerminX]

I liked that bug a lot myself. I often used it to great effect in Factory, letting me jump from that platform with the staircase in the main room into that window that overlooks everything (the window above where that MP-50 pickup gun spawns). I also used it to jump from the trailer outside onto the top of that pile of wood, and then from that pile of wood onto the balcony.

[Micki!]

After installing the patch, i experienced something wierd when unarmed...

I can't crouch when unarmed... At least not while standing still... when i hold down the crouch key, nothing happens, unless i move, then i crouch, but as soon as i stop, i stand up again...

Works fine while armed, but this sucks, if i want to take cover while using melee only...

I have noticed that the player models shadow (which represents the actual model) also doesn't have the "unarmed pose" when unarmed (standing like a boxer, ready to hit)... Instead, the models arms are pointing towards the ground, like if the player was relaxing... (:confused:) Also this, goes away as soon as i move, then the model will run around with that "boxing" pose again, but as soon as i stand still, the model will "relax" again...

I have currently only tried this in Singleplayer, don't know if the same thing happens in MP...
It's damn annoying, does anyone else experience this..?

[avatar_58]

^ Thats odd, but then again I don't run around with my fists out, I just kick and use the back of my gun.

[Micki!]

it's because the fist hit faster than when punching with your weapon, and when unarmed (or when having a light weapon equiped, like pistols) you run faster...
it also feels more "melee like"

It's really annoying...

[YicklePigeon]

Now I've got sound again, I'm happy and ready to take almost everyone on! (except Termin, I don't want my ass kicked that fast ;} )

Oh and btw, about the crouch melee thing, it's not about to make it feel more "melee like" it's about stopping the damned newbies with the sudden crouch 'n stand super fast punch exploit. So now you know :)

Regards,

Yickle.

[Micki!]

Couldn't they just make it, so that you won't pucnh fast at all..? Instead of removing the feature, of crouching while standing still, unarmed..? :tinyted:

[Xerxes]

Couldn't they just make it, so that you won't pucnh fast at all..?
Laziness?

A lot of bugs are a real pain in the ass to fix...

[YicklePigeon]

Couldn't they just make it, so that you won't pucnh fast at all..? Instead of removing the feature, of crouching while standing still, unarmed..? :tinyted:

Think about it...it's far better to remove functionality than it is to replace it with an alternative method that might be exploited by whining newbies all over again.

Regards,

Yickle.

[avatar_58]

An preview of exraction point -

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=141284&skip=yes

[TerminX]

Unconfirmed rumor: when the F.E.A.R. expansion is released, the multiplayer portion will become a standalone product and will be free, as RTCW: Enemy Territory is. There's supposedly something about this in the newest PC Gamer. Anyone have a copy?

[Hudson]

v1.05 has been released. It adds two new multiplayer modes and two new maps:

v1.04 - v1.05 (http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/fear/fear_update_en_104_105.exe.html)

v1.05 Full Patch (http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/fear/fear_update_en_100-104_105.exe.html)

v1.05 Patch Details (http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/fear/fear_update_en_100-104_105.txt)

[avatar_58]

Err Hudson - that was a month ago.

[Hudson]

Stupid Insider :(

"Vivendi Universal Games <newsletters@enews.vugames.net> to me More options Jun 19 (19 hours ago)"

[avatar_58]

Thats odd, I got an email telling me it was coming soon, then another from sierra in may about it being released. :o

[Damien_Azreal]

I got that same e-mail yesterday telling me a new update for FEAR was out. I checked and saw it was 1.5 and just thought WTF?

[0marTheZealot]

Yep.. they're f*ckin' newbies that are unable to adapt to necessary changes and that can't win without utilizing an advantage over opponents. They're whining about how people who are really awful at the game can get lucky and kill them now... maybe they should try not getting shot. ;)


The riot shield was banned in every competition league and for good reason. For one thing, it was horribly bugged. Another was that if you had the shield deployed, you could literally follow the Terrorists around and they couldn't do anything about it. For example, in Dust2, you could send someone with a shield right up the middle, plant your ass in a corner and tell your team which way they were going. Or if you had a shield as a terrorist, you could block the double doors in B, effectively stopping an entry from that spot. Finally, a shield + deagle was an order of magnitude better than any gun out there. I know, for a fact, that if the shield was allowed in competitive play, no one would buy an M4 at all. And why would you with such a huge advantage that the shield confers. It's complete immunity from weapons from the front, and getting shot in the back is very rare in competitive play.

[YicklePigeon]

Omar: I think you've quoted and posted in the wrong thread, this thread is all about F.E.A.R. - quite different to Counter-Strike.

Regards,

Yickle.

[0marTheZealot]

Omar: I think you've quoted and posted in the wrong thread, this thread is all about F.E.A.R. - quite different to Counter-Strike.

Regards,

Yickle.

It was OT, but someone else brought it up!! I swear!

[ZuljinRaynor]

Unconfirmed rumor: when the F.E.A.R. expansion is released, the multiplayer portion will become a standalone product and will be free, as RTCW: Enemy Territory is. There's supposedly something about this in the newest PC Gamer. Anyone have a copy?
Yes, read it too. And damn it! It's officially Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory! I hate it how sites/people refer to it as RTCW: ET. That was a canceled expansion and the MP became W: ET. (Sorry for the rant. :p )

[ADM]

If that happens then that would be great. More games should do that imo.

[Water12356]

Finally! I splurged and got the Directors ED. Oh god I cant wait to play.... Installing is boring... lol

[avatar_58]

http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=9027

Patch 1.06 is now released! Fixes some bugs as well as making 1.04< saves compatible with the new version.

[Damien_Azreal]

Damn. They sure are getting these patches out quickly.

[avatar_58]

I'm debating whether I want to finish that playthrough I was doing pre-1.05 or not. :o

[Damien_Azreal]

I'll be continuing my old game again. :D

[avatar_58]

Well I was at the apartment building.....that level is damn fun.

[Damien_Azreal]

I don't even remember where I was... :eek:

[Water12356]

Bah my version is 1.0.... and the download is over 400 megs... crap... now I really need DSL.

[Malgon]

I still have the game on the original version, so I'm guessing that saves are incompatible with newer versions?
Also do you notice any increases in performance, framerate wise?

[Nessus]

Just reinstalled this after only having gotten a third if the way or so through last time. I found it almost unplayable when I had 512RAM but now I have a gig and all of the stutters from disk thrashing are gone. The patch took me an hour to download but now I'm almost back to where I was priginally. The combat is so damm fun in this game, I wish more games payed attention to particles and having a awesome battles like in FEAR.

[Damien_Azreal]

I still have the game on the original version, so I'm guessing that saves are incompatible with newer versions?
Also do you notice any increases in performance, framerate wise?

Saves are compitble with version 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, and 1.6. Version 1.5 is the only one were previous save games don't work.

And honestly, performance felt smoother with the original version IMO. After 1.5 it's felt like it's not as smooth as it was before. I'm thinking of uninstalling and making a clean install, the patches mostly add new MP features, maps and such. They don't really effect single player that much.
FEAR (SP wise) is a very solid game.

[Aegeri]

So in other words Damien, if you don't play FEAR multiplayer [which I don't] then there isn't any particular reason to get the patch then?

[Damien_Azreal]

Not really.

Most of the patches add (maps, modes and other gameplay changes) to multiplayer. Only the first two patches had any actualy effects on single player, and they were very minimal.

[Mblackwell]

I thought there was a couple bug fixes, but I don't know what the bugs were.

[Damien_Azreal]

There were a few bug fixes (Water not showing properly in some maps, a few clipping issues) nothing realy tech wise or engine optimizations. The first few patches (1.1,1.2) fix these

Patches from then on focused more on MP and basically did nothing for single player.

[Malgon]

Yeah I remember an, albeit minimal, framerate drop when going from 1.00 to 1.02. That was back on my old windows install, so maybe it's worth just sticking to 1.00 then, since I've never played MP before.

[Orochi Avlis]

Try renaming the .exe file to something else. For some strange reason it provides a boost in FPS.

[Malgon]

How? :confused:

[Damien_Azreal]

FEAR tweak tool (http://forums.vugames.com/thread.jspa?threadID=20545&tstart=0)

Found this at the FEAR forums. Might help some.

[Kristian Joensen]

Try renaming the .exe file to something else. For some strange reason it provides a boost in FPS.

The only reason I can think of is it there where some driver optimization(or rather faking) based on running "fear.exe" if those where badly made and actually made performance worse then that would result in the scenario you mention.

[Damien_Azreal]

It was a glitch in old ATi drivers and FEAR. While it didn't effect the demo, it did effect the full retail game.
Renaming the exe in your FEAR folder to something like Feat.exe or something would improve performance for several ATi users.
But this is supposed to have been fixed since drivers 6.3 so doing it now would most likely be pointless, by you can always try.

[Malgon]

Wouldn't have affected me since I'm on nVidia. :)
I'll have to try some off those tweaks, and see how the game looks and runs. i remember some older drivers I used had better image quality than some newer drivers. It was the first time I had ever noticed anything like this before. I'll see what happens with the newest drivers.

[avatar_58]

FEAR Expansion preview:

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/pc/fear_extraction_point/preview-232.html

[Damien_Azreal]

The preview has been pulled until early August. :(

[avatar_58]

Oh...well....I read it! :D Let me remember, basically he said it had:

*More open areas as opposed to the confined spaces of the original
* A subway level :D
* The chaingun felt VERY satisfying and causes enemies to ragdoll in extreme ways, also destroys scenery nicely
* Said the alma/supernatural scares are still there, and moreso
* There is more blood and gore
* Talked about the new invisible enemies scaring him

On the whole he said it was more FEAR ;) Nothing added graphically, just different scenery and more scares. Sounded good to me.

[Damien_Azreal]

Kick ass, bring on October... probably after, but anyway. :D

[avatar_58]

Oh yeah, he also mentioned boxes and things that enemies and you use for protection can be destructable during fire fights. :D

[Malgon]

Sounds cool. I'll have to crank through F.E.A.R. again before EP comes out. :)

[Water12356]

Awesome. =)

[Orochi Avlis]

Combat is coming (http://www.joinfear.com/us/).

T-minus 20 days.

[Micki!]

Grrr... Reminds of of when i waited on the Prey Demo... :tinyted:

Can't wait :woot:

[Damien_Azreal]

Kick ass. :D

[avatar_58]

Combat is coming (http://www.joinfear.com/us/).

T-minus 20 days.

What the blazes is that? :o

[Orochi Avlis]

No idea, but it's coming.....

[avatar_58]

I hope its not just console news/demo coming....

[Orochi Avlis]

I was discussing that with Damien.
It could be a possiblity.

Other things that come to mind are:
1) The expansion
2) The free multiplayer rumor
3) Monolith's spinoff to the series

[avatar_58]

Ah the free mp! I had forgotten about that. They might just dub it "Combat" and release it. Seems likely.

The expansion isn't due till october though.

[Damien_Azreal]

Possibly an updated trailer for the expansion or something like that. Like I told Orochi ealier... if it's just info on the Xbox port... I'm gonna be pissed.

[Micki!]

if it's just info on the Xbox port... I'm gonna be pissed.

Damn right...

[Malgon]

I went for a quick play of F.E.A.R. the other day, which ended up being 2 hours of running the test bench to guage why I was getting poor framerates. I suspect that every nVidia update has actually decreased the games performance since I first got my card (6600GT).
No matter whether I ran the game at 640 x 480 with low setting or 1600 x 1200 with high setting could I manage to get any framerates above 40. In fact the majority of my FPS were below 25FPS, almost 85%! And in addition I have 1Gb of RAM and it runs worse than when I had 512Mb. Anyone else experience this? I'd really like to solve this problem before EP comes out. Cheers.

[TerminX]

Heh, what'd you do, turn on soft shadows or high levels of AA?

[Dogy]

I just finally finished the game.

So, do you really kill Fettel? Because that "Wierd" event you have with him with all of the ghouls popping around didn't really convince me that I did. Instead, after hitting him around nine times, the event stops and Fettel's model becomes a ragdoll.

I also like Alice :(. Why'd she have to die?

Also, Alma under the Blackhawk..... is she going to kill everyone excluding you?

Damn cliff-hanger endings.

[Orochi Avlis]

So, do you really kill Fettel? Because that "Wierd" event you have with him with all of the ghouls popping around didn't really convince me that I did. Instead, after hitting him around nine times, the event stops and Fettel's model becomes a ragdoll.
Yes. You shoot him only once, point blank, to the face.
But of course there is the benefit of the doubt due to the expansion. The soldiers are active and the dream sequence (trailer) you see Fettel in the distance.

I also like Alice :(. Why'd she have to die?
Guilty by association. Alma wanted to bring pain and death to those in anyway associated to her father and/or the Origin experiments.

[Dogy]

Guilty by association. Alma wanted to bring pain and death to those in anyway associated to her father and/or the Origin experiments.

I thought she was eaten by Fettel, because he was standing next to her body. There were no footprints in blood which is a signature that Alma has.

[Orochi Avlis]

I thought she was eaten by Fettel, because he was standing next to her body. There were no footprints in blood which is a signature that Alma has.
She was. But you think it was a coincidence that Fettel kidnapped her only because she was a high level employee?

[Damien_Azreal]

Remember Dogy, Alma is in Fettel's mind... she has control over him. So Fettel killed Alice because Alma wanted him to.

[Malgon]

Heh, what'd you do, turn on soft shadows or high levels of AA?

That's what I'm getting at, even with everything off my framerate wouldn't go past 40. I would understand if everything was cranked to the max, but the performance just doesn't make any sense. Level loads are better with 1Gb of RAM, but still it doesn't mean shit when the game is running poorly. I might try and revert back to the original drivers that came with my card and see if that helps.

[Orochi Avlis]

Was playing today F.E.A.R. and I just loved how the AI tries to get the best of you.

I was on the rooftops, before Bishop gets shot by the AMC security guards, and I took out an entire squad minus one soldier. I tried to sneak up on him, but he already started to flank me. As I ran for cover, and he stood behind a vent for cover. I decided to throw a grenade to flush him out. As the grenade hit the floor I heard the soldier go "Oh shit!" right before it went off.
Oh man, did I laugh.

[avatar_58]

I can't play those rooftop levels with knocking at least one person off the ledge with a swift kick to the head :D Its just so damn satisfying.

[Water12356]

That, or blowing them off the ledge with the shotgun. :D

[Micki!]

So true... :D

[Damien_Azreal]

:D Nice to know I'm not the only one who tries to shoot baddies over the edge. :p

I've actualy become rather found of trying to stick remote mines to enemies. :D It's fun to see them realise it's stuck to em and see them try and run towards you.... but before they can get to close... BOOM!! ;)

[avatar_58]

FEAR 1.07 patch!

http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/7841/F.E.A.R.+Retail+1.07+Patch+-+US

Guess what? Apparently I was right and they removed the cd check for MP mode. :D You'll still need it for SP though. More maps and etc too.

The new MP features (friends list, favs, etc) is great stuff.

[Quason]

Installed, thanks.

[Micki!]

I feel angry, and sad now...
I have the US version i assume, since my previous patch was en1.05 > en1.06
And then i got the US en1.06 > en1.07 from filefront...

But it says i need the english version of the previous patch... How f****** stupid is that..? :( Why can't there just be automatic update notifications for the exact version i have..?

Damn i hate this, now i try from fileshack, maybe it's Filefront who's screwing up with the files they have...

i REALLY hate this, seriously... :(

[EDIT:]
Didn't work either, someone please help me, or i'm gonna bite my fingers off in stress...

[Quason]

You may have to reinstall the game and get the full install update (from retail release to 1.07). It's a pretty big download though.

[Orochi Avlis]

Awesome.

[Water12356]

Im still at 1.0 thanks to my dial up! gg

[Damien_Azreal]

I'm at 1.4, no real need to fully update with each patch unless you play the game online. That's all the patches ever address is multiplayer.

[Micki!]

You may have to reinstall the game and get the full install update (from retail release to 1.07). It's a pretty big download though.

Thing is, that the full patch might not work either...
And i would go crazy if that happened...

Waiting for a big patch to download, just to realize it doesn't fit to my game... For whatever reason...

[manuel]

hm the coutdown on http://www.joinfear.com/us/ is exhausted for me but you can't download it yet can you?

Oh I just realised that the countdown time depends on your pcs time settings.
Anybody can tell me how much hours are left?

[Orochi Avlis]

2 hours and 30 minutes as I write this.

[Orochi Avlis]

I'm at 1.4, no real need to fully update with each patch unless you play the game online. That's all the patches ever address is multiplayer.
You should update it, so I can lay the smackdown on you. :p

[Yatta]

Micki, I have the same problem. Please let me know if you get it solved.

[avatar_58]

Should we add each other to the friends list? I haven't tried it out yet so I don't know how we go about doing that considering player names aren't set..

[Micki!]

I know quite alot here i want to add, but first i need to get the damn patch working...

[big fat lazy]

Am I crazy or does Fear look crappy on the PS3? http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/848/848829/imgs_1.html
I thought the PS3 was gonna be all powerful and stuff, why the need to downgrade the graphics?

[Micki!]

Wierd... :o

[Travis]

yeah, that does look surprisingly crappy. =\

[Orochi Avlis]

Maybe those textures are place holders.

[Micki!]

Maybe those textures are place holders.

That would better be so...
The PS3 players will really get dissapointed if that's what it's going to be like...

[Mongorian]

Looks exactly like the PC version.

[TerminX]

Looks exactly like the PC version.
Sure, if you cut the resolution of the PC version textures down to 25% of what they are now and then blur the entire scene.

[Water12356]

Yea technicly the PS3 should look better than the PC version. GG Sony.

[SyntaxN]

Maybe those textures are place holders.
No reason to use placeholders, afair the console versions use the PC content plus some extra effects. I guess the PS3 version is just in a very early stage...hopefully :censored:

[dlink]

I just wan't to inform that you can see which version you ahve in the FEAR readme either english or US, if you're european you need to downlaod the english and if you're north us then ofcourse you have to download the us patch. Well i've downloaded 3 of the 1.07 patches from 3 different sites and they all said it was the english version but it wasn't :(. Look what i found! a link to a working european english 1.07 patch for FEAR http://forums.vugames.com/thread.jspa?threadID=28923&tstart=0

[Micki!]

I just wan't to inform that you can see which version you ahve in the FEAR readme either english or US, if you're european you need to downlaod the english and if you're north us then ofcourse you have to download the us patch. Well i've downloaded 3 of the 1.07 patches from 3 different sites and they all said it was the english version but it wasn't :(. Look what i found! a link to a working european english 1.07 patch for FEAR http://forums.vugames.com/thread.jspa?threadID=28923&tstart=0


Some people there say that it's not needed to uninstall the whole game, and get the full pathc... But replacing the file, and then updating should work fine too...

I'm going for it, hope it works... :(

[EDIT:]
It's magic, the setup actually started, and is about to finish :D
:woot:

[dlink]

I looks like it didnt worked for me meh. guess we have to wait more before they really fix it

[Micki!]

Now i need to find everyone i know here, who actively play FEAR, to add them on the friends list... :)

Yatta, Orochi, ADM, Avatar and likely Damien too, are the ones i MUST add... Since it seems you guys play alot...

[dlink]

what do you mean by adding them to friend list? What friend list? any in FEAR or?

[Micki!]

what do you mean by adding them to friend list? What friend list? any in FEAR or?


Yeah, the new patch adds a friends list, and a favorites servers list... I think that's cool, and a very neat way for Multiplayer gamers... :)

I prefer playing with people i know... So a friends list is REALLY a big plus, and will for sure make me play more often now...

[dlink]

alright! thanks just to let you know the, suddenly the aptch works! so false alarm lol. im off to try it and my nickname is smfE

[avatar_58]

Yatta, Orochi, ADM, Avatar and likely Damien too, are the ones i MUST add... Since it seems you guys play alot...

Actually I haven't played in quite some time. :o Been kind of occupied with other games. Although I'd be up for game any time.

[Yatta]

I just wan't to inform that you can see which version you ahve in the FEAR readme either english or US, if you're european you need to downlaod the english and if you're north us then ofcourse you have to download the us patch. Well i've downloaded 3 of the 1.07 patches from 3 different sites and they all said it was the english version but it wasn't :(. Look what i found! a link to a working european english 1.07 patch for FEAR http://forums.vugames.com/thread.jspa?threadID=28923&tstart=0
Thanks dude, worked like a charm. :love:

[Micki!]

Actually I haven't played in quite some time. :o Been kind of occupied with other games. Although I'd be up for game any time.

Ahh, you just seemed so active here, that i thought you were playing it alot too..:o

Doesn't matter, i'll add you when i see you... :dopefish:

[Mongorian]

Sure, if you cut the resolution of the PC version textures down to 25% of what they are now and then blur the entire scene.

Well, yeah. I meant the characters and environments look like the PC version. It seems PS3 users are getting the same levels and story.

EDIT: To clarify, I meant that ports usually get butchered and end up being completely different, and often bad games.

[dlink]

Thanks dude, worked like a charm. :love:

no problem dude i'm always here to help =)

[Orochi Avlis]

New (http://pc.ign.com/articles/727/727749p1.html) preview of the expansion.

Looks like Fettel is alive after all (or maybe in the same state Alma is in). Not only that, but Fettel and Alma are going to be fighting each other as well as you. So we should see some Replicants vs Ghouls firefights. :D

[Damien_Azreal]

Nice preview, can't wait fo rthis release. :D

[Micki!]

Awesome :)

[ZuljinRaynor]

I wish that Sierra would stop trying to milk FEAR now by bringing it to PS3.

On topic with the expansion... I wonder if at the end they say that FEAR is disbanded or it gets renamed. :D

[Orochi Avlis]

I wish that Sierra would stop trying to milk FEAR now by bringing it to PS3.

On topic with the expansion... I wonder if at the end they say that FEAR is disbanded or it gets renamed. :D
I think they want to get as much money from the name as possible before Monolith releases the spin-off through Warner Bros.
There's also the F.E.A.R. combat which brings in publicity for the ports.

[Damien_Azreal]

By Sierra don't you mean VUG? ;) Sierra is basically dead, just a name VUG uses.

I don't really care where they port it. PC got it first, we've played it and loved it. I think it's great that Monolith are finally getting the attention they deserve, so the game is being ported to consoles.
Doesn't hurt us and our PC copies any.

[ZuljinRaynor]

By Sierra don't you mean VUG? ;) Sierra is basically dead, just a name VUG uses.

I don't really care where they port it. PC got it first, we've played it and loved it. I think it's great that Monolith are finally getting the attention they deserve, so the game is being ported to consoles.
Doesn't hurt us and our PC copies any.

I just better see that Arena Mode thing that's in the 360 version in a patch. Dual-pistols are fun against the FEAR enemies.

[Damien_Azreal]

We'll most likely get most of the 360 updates in a patch or add-on. Not sure if we'll get HDR added through a patch though, would be nice.
But could take some serious code work.

[avatar_58]

By Sierra don't you mean VUG? ;) Sierra is basically dead, just a name VUG uses.


Yeah...its bad enough VUgames still uses the name.

[ZuljinRaynor]

Isn't VUG now simply Vivendi?

[Micki!]

Yeah...
Vivendi Universal Games

[Micki!]

There should be a UK /european version of the 1.07 patch of FEAR available now...
I have no time to search for links, but i guess the usual popular gaming websites you guys visit has it already...

Or just use google...

[hanged_man]

What other things they're adding in the expansion ??? enhanced AI ??? or only new chapters ??

[TerminX]

What other things they're adding in the expansion ??? enhanced AI ??? or only new chapters ??
Enhanced AI, two new weapons and a couple of new enemy types.

[FrozeN91]

Enhanced AI, two new weapons and a couple of new enemy types.

Even better AI? :insomnia:

[Damien_Azreal]

Yep. :D

Extraction Point is focusing 100% on upping the single player experience. Monolith is working very closely to with the team doing the expansion, to make sure the story, gameplay and overall feeling of the game follow the original.

[Orochi Avlis]

Even better AI? :insomnia:
They interact more with the environment apparently.

[FrozeN91]

I am on my 7:th run through this awesome game which I apparently can't get tired off, and I got FREAKED out by a cactus behind a window!!! I thought it was Alma's head :insomnia:

In the same room was the monitor where Fettel's walking and Alma creeps up on the screen, so I was already freaked out!

It was fun :D

[FrozeN91]

Yep. :D

Extraction Point is focusing 100% on upping the single player experience. Monolith is working very closely to with the team doing the expansion, to make sure the story, gameplay and overall feeling of the game follow the original.

Wow, this is easily number ONE on my most wanted list! :)

[Damien_Azreal]

I am on my 7:th run through this awesome game which I apparently can't get tired off, and I got FREAKED out by a cactus behind a window!!! I thought it was Alma's head :insomnia:

In the same room was the monitor where Fettel's walking and Alma creeps up on the screen, so I was already freaked out!

It was fun :D

I think I did the same thing, cause when you turn away from the screen you see the rounded top of the cactus outside the window and it looks jus tlike the top of her damn head. :D

I shoot the f*cking plant. :p

[FrozeN91]

Hehe, yeah. Damn cactus :p

Also this other time when you turn off the firealarm and you turn around she's outside this bulletproof window.
She just stands there and does nothing. So I walk out and I expect here to dissapear in ashes as always, but NO!
She starts walking at me her arms stretched out! I quit the game as fast as I could :D

[Micki!]

[EDIT:]
Bleh, nevermind... didn't notice the second page, which contained everthing i meant better... :o

[Malgon]

Have to read up about the expansion, as more F.E.A.R. is always better. :)

[Water12356]

I finally got DSL and patched FEAR. I wana get my butt wooped by TerminX! What server does he or anybody else play at?

[Damien_Azreal]

Just have get some guys from here together on a 3DRealms server, TX will show up.
But he doesn't play as TX... or the same name very often.

[TerminX]

Just have get some guys from here together on a 3DRealms server, TX will show up.
But he doesn't play as TX... or the same name very often.
Yeah, organize a game on these forums and I'll likely show up if I notice it. I usually play as ScreamForMe these days; if you ever see anyone playing by that name, there's a 99.99% chance that it's me.

Can any of you host a game today?

[avatar_58]

Preferably someone with a decent connection.

[Water12356]

Wish I could, but my DSL is crappy DSL.

[Mongorian]

I have a good connection and would be apt to host. Send me a pm or something.

[Denz]

Can't we get something like Xfire or something? That would be easier.

[avatar_58]

Can't we get something like Xfire or something? That would be easier.

I have it, I just don't use it.

[Damien_Azreal]

I have Xfire... but O only use it to chat with Orochi. Just setting up a server and posting the name and password here has worked fine in the past.

[Damien_Azreal]

Couldn't edit above post... but... this should make Orochi happy. :p

I updated FEAR to 1.7, :D , now you just have to convince to to go online.

[avatar_58]

Couldn't edit above post... but... this should make Orochi happy. :p

I updated FEAR to 1.7, :D , now you just have to convince to to go online.

I'd be up for a melee truck match. :D I might be rusty, haven't played in awhile.

[Damien_Azreal]

I wish I could be "rusty" :p I just plain suck... but I play to have fun, not to be the best.

[Micki!]

Why do people always play, while i sleep..?! :tinyted:

[avatar_58]

Why do people always play, while i sleep..?! :tinyted:

What people played? I just said I'd be up for said match, but it hasn't seemed to materialize yet.

[Micki!]

Oh... :o

Well, i still need people on my buddy list...

[Orochi Avlis]

Couldn't edit above post... but... this should make Orochi happy. :p

I updated FEAR to 1.7, :D , now you just have to convince to to go online.
YOU FOOL!!!
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[ZuljinRaynor]

Why do people always play, while i sleep..?! :tinyted:

Where do you live? ;)

[Damien_Azreal]

Not in the US of A, he's over there in Denmark.

[Micki!]

Not in the US of A, he's over there in Denmark.

Exactly... :o

[TerminX]

Can anyone host a game right now?

[TerminX]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6236/assrapepg1.th.png (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=assrapepg1.png)

Hehe.

[0marTheZealot]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6236/assrapepg1.th.png (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=assrapepg1.png)

Hehe.


damn son.....

[Damien_Azreal]

Just try playing against him. :p I always seem to f*ck up, I'll actualy get into it and really try and get a kill on him (by pure luck) and then I am either in shock or I let my gaurd down.
Then alomst like a big "F*CK YOU!" from TX I'm killed like three times.

[Water12356]

lol now I really wana play. That just sounds funny to watch.

[Denz]

I wanna play against TX to see how far goes his ownage.

[Orochi Avlis]

I wanna play against TX to see how far goes his ownage.
As far as the eye can see.

[Jiminator]

wow, nice death rate. I must be doing something wrong. very wrong... :D

[Malgon]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6236/assrapepg1.th.png (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=assrapepg1.png)

Hehe.

F*cken hell! :eek:

Yeah, I'm replaying the game on Extreme Difficulty and finding it pretty easy for some reason. I'm constantly near full health and armour, and seem to be able to beat most encounters on the first go. The game is much more enjoyable, since I'm actually trying to piece the story together and pay closer detail to it.

Now to go download the EP demo. :D

[Water12356]

Im not sure if this deserved its own thread or not, but I found something beautiful...

Someone made a cooperative mod for FEAR!

http://mods.moddb.com/7149/fear-coop/

From what ive seen, it looks well done, and has lots of enemies. (lots of heavys and I heard in one scene u fight 3 r.e.v.e.'s at once. :eek:)
Damien or anyone else, please try this out with me!! (PM ME!) It sounds fun as hell :D

Edit: Latest build's featues:
-Fully compatible with the FEAR 1.07 Patch
-Fully compatible with FEAR Combat
-2 New Weapons (HC-3000 and CW1 Sniper Rifle)
-4 New Coop Maps: AIsylum, Underworld, Surface and AITech
-5 New Skins (Clown Mapes, ConcreteMan, PhotoMan, FleshGuy, GoreGuy) -1 New Player Model: Krige
-Optimized all Player Models (fixed hitching camera)
-Updated Interface Including new Intro Clip
-New Insignias
-Coop Warfare now creates a seperate user directory (CoopWarfare_User inside the game folder)
-Bunker COOP optimized and fixed scoring system
-Enhanced UI Game Mode settings for Coop (MaxWeapons can be changed, Respawn wait time can be set from 0 to 60 optionally)

[avatar_58]

Oooh....sounds sexiful. I'll download it. :D I'd love to play it.

[Water12356]

Dude im almost done downloading it! PM me if u wana try it with me. (give me your msn or aim.) im excited as hell to play.

[Micki!]

i must get that too, with 2 other friends :D We love Coop, and this sounds realy promising, and more proffesional than the previous coop mods i've seen...
sounds really cool...

[ZuljinRaynor]

FEAR Co-op? :o

[Damien_Azreal]

Co-op.... :eek: CO-OP?!!

Orochi... where are ya buddy? We must co-op FEAR! :p

[avatar_58]

Well its no pro mod, but damn its pretty fun on certain levels! :D Very hard to push the enemy back sometimes like in the office.

Damien - try it, its frickin great. The one shipyard docks level had explosions and enemies flying everywhere. Its chaos. It can be very laggey hitbox wise and sometimes I don't quite understand the damages but its still fun.

[Damien_Azreal]

I will. :D

[Orochi Avlis]

Co-op.... :eek: CO-OP?!!

Orochi... where are ya buddy? We must co-op FEAR! :p
Yes, we must.

[Water12356]

Me and avatar are playin!

The new weapons are meh, no single player maps yet, and theres no slomo. =/ BUT, its still fun, there are tons of enemies to kill and they obviously have more HP than in Single player mode, but meele atacks still take em down easy. :D

[Damien_Azreal]

I didn't even realise you were online. :p

[avatar_58]

Lets all go....I'm still willing to play. Water is on too :D

[Orochi Avlis]

Maybe later.

[avatar_58]

Well I'll host a 3dr match "Avatar3DR" password: "preyfear", so join if you guys want.