Is it possible to play a XBOX 360 game on PC anyway [Archive]

Yatta

05-20-2006, 09:50 PM

I am NOT going to purchase a XBOX in the coming 50 years I know that, because XBOX sucks. But I want to play Gears of War on PC . Is there ANY workaround ?

TIA

Babe
This (http://www.caustik.com/cxbx/index.htm) is as close as you'll ever get to running Xbox (1) games, which excludes Gears of War. If it was possible to play console games on PC, consoles would serve no purpose now, would they?

Stating opinions in an offending manner (such as saying the Xbox sucks) is considered flame bait. ;)

Phayzon

05-20-2006, 09:53 PM

Indeed, if I said what I wanted to id be banned. You appear to be new here, Babe, so this isnt leaving a very good first impression on us, and first impressions stick around y'no...

Babe

05-20-2006, 10:31 PM

Phayzon

05-20-2006, 10:41 PM

"But those who have played a game on computers on high resolution graphics knows what I mean."

I sure as hell dont. I play Doom3 and Quake4 (And on Wednesday, FEAR) at max settings, so I know what high quality graphics really are. And I still havnt a clue what you mean. I have also played a few X360 games in 1080i HD, and fail to see what you mean.

Anyway..
No it is NOT POSSIBLE.

Xerxes

05-20-2006, 10:48 PM

No it is NOT POSSIBLE.
Someone's going to write an emulator if there's enough demand...

But no one did yet.

Yatta

05-20-2006, 11:16 PM

Someone's going to write an emulator if there's enough demand...

But no one did yet.
It's not as easy as it sounds. The emulator I linked to in my original post is the best one out for the Xbox and even that is not complete. There won't be a 360 emulator for a few good years.

Odin

05-20-2006, 11:18 PM

I think Cliffy B said that they might make a Gears of War PC port in the future, like they did with Halo.

Xerxes

05-20-2006, 11:35 PM

It's not as easy as it sounds. The emulator I linked to in my original post is the best one out for the Xbox and even that is not complete. There won't be a 360 emulator for a few good years.
Maybe they could make an Xbox360 OS?

If the 360 is just a big PC then it might work, but it'd still be hard to change the OS with assembly or whatever..

Gryph

05-21-2006, 01:20 AM

Why must people be close minded. Ugh. But it's not possible for us consumers to play XBOX 360 games on PC. I'm sure devs have builds running on PCs and I'm quite sure I saw a recent E3 video with a short clip with Gears of War in a Windows environment.

Twin

05-21-2006, 03:03 AM

i find it funny that he wants to play gears of war but says the 360 sucks :p

sorry dude but if you refuse to buy the console then you ain't going to beable to play the game :D

Cerberus_e

05-21-2006, 04:26 AM

Is there ANY workaround ?

Yes, there will be, but your computer needs to be WAY faster than it's now, since emulating isn't fluid, it's very demanding :)

SyntaxN

05-21-2006, 06:44 AM

I think Cliffy B said that they might make a Gears of War PC port in the future, like they did with Halo.
Link?

shiranui

05-21-2006, 07:48 AM

Now back to the question. Whats the best way of playing GOW on PC, if possible ?

Actually it is possible to play GOW on a PC:

1) buy an xbox360 & gears of war.
2) lay PC case horizontally on floor, in front of TV.
3) place chair on top of case.
4) sit on chair.
5) start playing GOW

Gabrobot

05-21-2006, 10:09 AM

Yes, there will be, but your computer needs to be WAY faster than it's now, since emulating isn't fluid, it's very demanding :)

Actually, Xbox emulating isn't very expensive, performance-wise. The reason is because the emulator isn't actually an emulator...the Xbox's OS is just a modified Windows 2000 kernal so the commands from the .xbe (.exe equivalent) can just be converted to commands for Windows 2000/XP. This means "emulation" can be done at nearly full speed. Unfortunately, the guy making the emulator had to quit a couple years ago because he didn't have enough free time to continue. He did get Turok running essentially perfectly and at full speed.

I would assume the Xbox 360 would be harder to work out, however, since you would probably have to emulate the CPU cores, or some such.

Odin

05-21-2006, 10:26 AM

Link?

It was on a podcast interview somewhere, and I don't remember the name of the podcast. Sorry.

Dr. Kill

05-21-2006, 11:33 AM

I am NOT going to purchase a XBOX in the coming 50 years I know that, because XBOX sucks. But I want to play Gears of War on PC . Is there ANY workaround ?

TIA

Babe

YOU suck! j/k :insomnia: As far as I know, there is no "workaround".

John

05-21-2006, 02:11 PM

Babe, why on earth would you ever want to play an XBox game?!

If the XBox 360 sucks, then every single game for it must suck aswell, right?

ZuljinRaynor

05-21-2006, 02:33 PM

Well, you can get a TV card and hook up a 360 to that and you'll be playing it on your PC technically.

Kristian Joensen

05-21-2006, 03:12 PM

Actually, Xbox emulating isn't very expensive, performance-wise. The reason is because the emulator isn't actually an emulator...the Xbox's OS is just a modified Windows 2000 kernal so the commands from the .xbe (.exe equivalent) can just be converted to commands for Windows 2000/XP. This means "emulation" can be done at nearly full speed. Unfortunately, the guy making the emulator had to quit a couple years ago because he didn't have enough free time to continue. He did get Turok running essentially perfectly and at full speed.

I would assume the Xbox 360 would be harder to work out, however, since you would probably have to emulate the CPU cores, or some such.

Yes, however if you had a PowePC based computer say a PowerPC Mac, then you wouldn't have to do that. Atleast if it was powerfull enough and atleast 3 cores, question is, can you get that ?

I mean the Macintosh's are Intel based now and surely they never reached that power level while on the PPC architecture, right ?

Are there any other PowerPC based computers ?

Dr. Kill

05-21-2006, 03:14 PM

Well, you can get a TV card and hook up a 360 to that and you'll be playing it on your PC technically.

Do you know how awful that would look? At that rate, just take out the middle man, and hook a 360 to a monitor.

avatar_58

05-21-2006, 04:16 PM

Steve

05-21-2006, 04:29 PM

still severly flawed N64 and PSX emulators
Project 64 and epsxe are hardly flawed.

Altered Reality

05-21-2006, 04:51 PM

Are there any other PowerPC based computers ?
Yeah, the (rotfl) Amiga One. :roll:

Snafu

05-21-2006, 05:05 PM

I am sorry folks if I have hurt someone's feeling by saying XBOX sux. But those who have played a game on computers on high resolution graphics knows what I mean. Anyway if I have hurt some one's feeling I am sorry. I still will however not purchase an XBOX in the coming 50 years of my life, if I live that long ;).

Now back to the question. Whats the best way of playing GOW on PC, if possible ?

Heh. I have a dual core AMD with an ATI X1900XT and I just bought an Xbox 360 last night. It's a great gaming machine even compared to my PC. I was very impressed how good the controller actually is, it's light years ahead of the original Xbox controller.

Your theory is flawed about high res graphics because Xbox 360 plays games in HD, as in 1920 × 1080 resolution. A $3000 PC with SLI/ Crossfire still struggles at that resolution with newer games.

As far as Gears of War being on the PC, that's up to Microsoft, they're the publisher of the game. If anything, Gears will be a Vista only title some time in the future because Microsoft wants you to buy Vista. If it does happen it won't be for a long time because Gears alone will make people buy a new Xbox, hell that's why I bought one. All upcoming Microsoft published PC gamess are Vista only, even old games like Halo 2. There no magic way to play an Xbox 360 game on a PC, not sure what you were smoking when you came up with that idea.

Phayzon

05-21-2006, 05:07 PM

Emulating 360?? They've just perfected the SNES only recently, and there are still severly flawed N64 and PSX emulators

Indeed. Nothing above SNES works good for me. N64 emulation is horrid for me, hell ive gotten Gamecube emulation to work better!

Steve

05-21-2006, 05:08 PM

N64 emulation is horrid for me
Really? I've had no problems at all. What emulator are\were you using?

Phayzon

05-21-2006, 05:12 PM

Project 64.

ZuljinRaynor

05-21-2006, 05:13 PM

Yeah, is Zelda supposed to run at like 15 FPS?
On both my old and new computer...

Steve

05-21-2006, 05:14 PM

Project 64.
Exactly the same emulator I'm using. I've had no problems at all. What games are you trying to play?

Kristian Joensen

05-21-2006, 05:16 PM

Yeah, the (rotfl) Amiga One. :roll:

Well isn't that really weak ?

Edit:

Well those that I can find are only 800 Mhz the Xbox 360 is 3 x 3.2 Ghz.

Phayzon

05-21-2006, 05:19 PM

Exactly the same emulator I'm using. I've had no problems at all. What games are you trying to play?

Kirby64, SSB, Rampage 2, Duke64, Doom64, and StarFox 64.

John

05-21-2006, 10:01 PM

Emulating 360?? They've just perfected the SNES only recently, and there are still severly flawed N64 and PSX emulators and you are going to ask for a 360 emulator?

Come talk to us in 2050 because you are certainly not getting any decent accuracy out of it.

Dude, I dunno about you....but the SNES, N64, and etc. have been emulated extremely well for the past few years. Hell, the ZSNES emulator for the SNES has played games almost perfectly since around 98-99.

The only system you put down that isnt really emulated well is the PSX and thats due to the restrictions of a CD compared to cartridges.

Steve

05-21-2006, 10:06 PM

Kirby64, SSB, Rampage 2, Duke64, Doom64, and StarFox 64.
I'm having no problems running those games.

ZuljinRaynor

05-21-2006, 10:07 PM

Well, the reason for CD was beacue of the restrictions from cartridges. ;)

John

05-21-2006, 10:16 PM

Yes but not just memory or technical restrictions but anti-piracy restrictions aswell.

Kevin9er

05-21-2006, 11:41 PM

Yeah, is Zelda supposed to run at like 15 FPS?
On both my old and new computer...

Yes actually, the game is capped at 24 fps no matter what.

ZuljinRaynor

05-21-2006, 11:49 PM

Yes actually, the game is capped at 24 fps no matter what.
Wow... :/ I hope it won't be on the Wii.

avatar_58

05-21-2006, 11:51 PM

Project 64 and epsxe are hardly flawed.

Never owned an N64? That emulator is FAR from perfect. Some games outright refuse to run, while others have horrible graphical glitches and other issues (on project64 and 1964). I've tried all the different plugins and they all are subpar, the best being the Glide-based ones which don't even work properly using wrappers.....the developers are stuck in the past with those emulators. I won't even mention the fact that the damn thing locks up for no reason, making games like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark agonizing to get through.

ePSXe is alright, but the graphics are really messy compared to the original. Even with filters it doesn't look right. Each game needs to be tweaked its own way with its own plugins....I hardly call that perfected.

So yeah, I'd say 360 emulation is a pipe dream right now.

Zero

05-22-2006, 12:14 AM

I don't, there is reason why other systems are't perfect, but Xbox and Xbox 360 don't use custom hardware, its like GBA you realise that any ARM9 CPU cant perfectly enmlate a GBA, because the instructionset is exactly the same. so really all you have to do it create a dynamic recompiler and wahla you have the Xbox on PC with all the bells and whissles, only problem is that isen't exactly easy to do.

Karthik

05-22-2006, 12:16 AM

Yeah, X360 emulation is definitely a pipe dream. Xbox emulation however is not far. Now that Live is coming to PC I wouldn't be surprised if MS adds XBOX emulation for Vista PC. That's one way they can push 360 controller for PC users. In fact they've got nothing to lose as Nvidia has already stopped manufacturing Xbox graphic chispsets.

The only thing I can't figure out is, if XBOX emulation is possible because of the hardware architecture is similar to PC, why is it there are so few of it. Heck, why isn't there a home made EXE compiler that coverts XBOX code to PC format? With all those XBOX ports like MGS2, Halo, Silent Hill 2, Psi-Ops, X2: Wolverine's Revenge and so on shouldn't there be a load of Xbox emus out there?

Gabrobot

05-22-2006, 02:17 AM

The only thing I can't figure out is, if XBOX emulation is possible because of the hardware architecture is similar to PC, why is it there are so few of it. Heck, why isn't there a home made EXE compiler that coverts XBOX code to PC format? With all those XBOX ports like MGS2, Halo, Silent Hill 2, Psi-Ops, X2: Wolverine's Revenge and so on shouldn't there be a load of Xbox emus out there?

Not really...Xbox "emulation" isn't really the problem. The trouble is that Xbox discs can't be read by PCs, so in order to play a game you have to have an Xbox and use it to copy the disc onto your computer via a network connection. Needless to say if you already have an Xbox, there's little reason to emulate it.

And everyone was saying Xbox emulation was a pipe dream, and then Caustik got Turok running perfectly at full speed (other games just require that their XDK version be supported). So to those who are saying that, don't be so sure...the Xbox 360 is trickier because of the hardware, but the similar software architecture makes literal emulation (like what's necessary for all the other consoles) largely unnecessary for the Xbox and Xbox 360.