Can we Turn OFF the swearing? great game [Archive]

bf1942

06-23-2006, 10:11 AM

This game is great, one of the best Ive played in a long time, but,
whoa is there a lot of sailor talk(swearing) in it,

some games give you the option, to not have swearing in the game, and this would increase sales to those who can't stand the offensive swearing.

Plus the kids can now blow away aliens and rescue the girl along with the adults.

Please tell me that I can love, buy ,and recomend this game to everyone.
Without having to sit thru the vulgar language :censored:

with thanks in advance, for a Fantastic game , that cannot be played by so many , for such a silly reason,

give usall the option to leave it in or take it out,
It won't detract from the game if we don't hear F**K all the time ,

really, great game , except I know many that will take a stand on principal
and sacrafice the fun of playing to keep there values intact.

Please don't forget that there are kids and GOD fearing folks that love games too.:D

seregrail7

06-23-2006, 10:14 AM

Even without the swearing there is no way this game would be suitable for kids.

Sang

06-23-2006, 10:18 AM

Well, define 'kids' - I liked the game and it didn't "affect" me or anything. Anyways I don't think the swearing should be left out, it gave the characters some personality.

DekenFrost

06-23-2006, 10:19 AM

this game is not meant for kids .. nor will it ever be.

Its frightening to kids and parents shouldnt buy their kids such a game. Responsable parents that is.

Well, define 'kids' - I liked the game and it didn't "affect" me or anything. Anyways I don't think the swearing should be left out, it gave the characters some personality.

i have played many violent games in my yoth (well i am only 19 practically i am still a teenager ;) ) but i wouldnt recomment such games to anyone younger then 16

Marty

06-23-2006, 10:22 AM

he should have washed his mouth out with soap before he got his ass abducted

Kristian Joensen

06-23-2006, 10:22 AM

I believe I was an option called "profanity" in the menu. Try turninbg it off.

Falcon

06-23-2006, 10:23 AM

groovie

06-23-2006, 10:24 AM

DekenFrost

06-23-2006, 10:25 AM

Well... I'm currently 17, I played Doom 3 at age 15, Duke Nukem at age 8 and Doom II at age 6... and there has been nothing wrong in those games for me...
Falcon
Note: It's completely legal in Spain buying those games regardless of your age.

yeah shure i mean i had no problems myself either

BUT it is still up to the parents to decide what is good for their kids and some kids can´t handle stuff like this as well as others. I just can´t stand parents that literaly give a shit about what their kids play. The buy them the computer they give them the games for christmas ..... and then they sue the bloody company that made the game becouse its all their fault of course .. that just makes me angry

DavoX

06-23-2006, 10:28 AM

You can turn it off, unfortunately.

(Now we know duke's gonna talk like this and won't get censored, yay! :D )

ZuljinRaynor

06-23-2006, 10:29 AM

You can turn on the Profanity filter in the options.
But you can hear the uck and stuff still.

tisuko

06-23-2006, 06:11 PM

You can turn on the Profanity filter in the options.
But you can hear the uck and stuff still.

so what would be the point of turning it off? haha

Damien_Azreal

06-23-2006, 06:17 PM

Agreed. :D

As someone who swears more than anyone else I know... I'm hard pressed to find a game that would offend me. :D

Chaos Marine

06-23-2006, 07:03 PM

I'm sure there's an option somewhere that turns off the swearing. Look for the Disable profanity option. It's there somewhere I'm sure.

RedTiger

06-23-2006, 07:04 PM

Turn it off bf, but at the same time remember that it's okay for adults to be as they please and not have to constantly worry about what is, or isn't, good for the "children." Life would be pretty boring if everything HAD to be kid-proof. ;)

amphetamarine

06-23-2006, 07:04 PM

I really don't understand where people come from in these sorts of topics.

I see it in CS servers sometimes. Here you are, playing a simulated game of kill everybody and yet you're not allowed to swear on the server in case kids are playing. :doh:

Same goes for this. If you have no worries letting your kid see how violent PREY is then what the **** is wrong with letting them hear it?

Damien_Azreal

06-23-2006, 07:06 PM

It is amazing how violence and gore are perfectly fine as long as people don't say bad words. :doh:

FrozeN91

06-23-2006, 07:07 PM

I like swearing.. it adds much personality ! Plus I swear kinda much too ;)

Tim Gerritsen

06-23-2006, 07:07 PM

Actually you CAN shut off the profanity. Just go to Options>Look and set Allow Profanity to No.

This turns off the profanity in both the voice and subtitles.

avatar_58

06-23-2006, 07:10 PM

Personally I don't understand 'bleeping'. To me you still know what they are supposed to say, even the youngest of kids can understand what was meant to be there....so whats the point?

Its the parents responsibility.....if you dont want swearing for your kids then don't let them play, although if swearing is the only part of Prey that people find questionable for kids - I think society has problems. Prey is a mature title, its as simple as that.

DekenFrost

06-23-2006, 07:15 PM

so whats the point?
simple .. the point is that nobody can sue them .. and thats all there is to it. America has become so fearfull because everyone sues everyone.

In germany there is no bleeping :) You can even show tits on midday TV .. but they have to have little (tiny) stickers on their nipples

hive33

06-23-2006, 07:39 PM

I enjoy the swearing. Too bad they didn't do more like when tommy started to get hurt bad he should say ah you ****er or you bastard. It's funny I was getting hurt by the alien chicken monster and blurted out you ****er.

ercdevious

06-23-2006, 07:39 PM

It has a Mature rating for a reason..

KaiserSoze

06-23-2006, 08:07 PM

Even without the swearing there is no way this game would be suitable for kids.

end of thread. seriously.

TerminX

06-23-2006, 08:10 PM

I see it in CS servers sometimes. Here you are, playing a simulated game of kill everybody and yet you're not allowed to swear on the server in case kids are playing. :doh:
I've seen that on F.E.A.R. servers. My typical reaction is to beat the snot out of them to the point that they sit there and break their own rule over and over. :p

avatar_58

06-23-2006, 08:29 PM

simple .. the point is that nobody can sue them

Any idiot that buys a game that says "Strong Language" on the box and later is shocked that it does indeed swear is an idiot.

Besides - where do you folks live? Where I come from swearing is common and its actually odd to hear a conversation without it. Sure - its not something you do as an employee or around too many kids, but if you are an adult and are offended by that four letter word then you must have some real uptight friends.

Phayzon

06-23-2006, 08:53 PM

I think ALL games (Yeah, even Super Mario) should have the "Explicit language" warning. Not because its in the game, but because soon enough Bowser will piss you off enough that you start screamin gand swearing.

Travis

06-23-2006, 09:03 PM

You can turn off the swearing.

But personally, that scene with the two kids has the potential to be much more disturbing to young children than a little word they might not even know is bad

Vic Mackey

06-23-2006, 09:13 PM

Man I tell you I think the world has gone upside down... what kind of fantasy world is bf1942 living in? Its ok to see people get impaled by large spikes saying **** is a big no no???? If it bothers you that much go back to the monastary and sit on your ass and forget about Prey.... :doh: :brickwall:

Btw, since thats the way people talk it adds character to the game.

Gatinater

06-24-2006, 12:37 AM

I'm sure they've heard and know more words than you think. Although were I grew up the rules were only adults can swear. My grandpa and mother said just about every word there is, on a daily basis.

They will hear it all sometime. Can't keep their ears covered forever. Why fight the inevitable? Just tell them Tommy swears so much because he has anger management issues and a poor vocabulary so his inability to articulate frustrates him.

Or tell him that he's italian. :) Encase nobody gets the joke.. Italians are stereotyped as foul mouthed diehard bad-asses. Like a Steven Segal Movie. Irish too. You could tell him he's irish.

Speaking of Steven Segal.. someone should make a shooter that features him as lead role.

"You talkin to me? Are you talkin to me ***hole? You must be, cause I don't see anyone else here ****face."

"You think this is being shot? This aint being shot. I'll show you being shot."

"Wanna play a game? Let's play a game. It's called.. I kick your teeth in, ***hole."

Tyrant's Heart

06-24-2006, 01:19 AM

The game has tons of violent, gory moments like children getting killed, and people become cuisinart bits, and all you can think off is turning off the profanity and play with your kids? Yeesh :rolleyes:

m4dmax

06-24-2006, 01:40 AM

uh..if my bar,gf, grandfather, and I were sucked into an alien craft im pretty sure id be throwing out the F word quite a few times. It fits in the game, and being able to turn it off or on wont make it suitable in the least bit for younger people. Heck, we have people being mutilated, dragged away screaming, kids killing other kids, bad guys with massive scarring/guts hanging out. I think a F Bomb every once in a while is the least of ones worries when it comes to kids playing the game.

Gatinater

06-24-2006, 02:05 AM

I prefer shit & damn myself. They come to mind first for some reason.

Seeing as we are no longer required to have The King's consent in order to Fornicate I don't understand why the F word is still considered a curse or forbidden word. It's just and acronym for FORNICATION UNDER CONSENT of the KING. We don't have king's in the U.S and I never could understand why it's a forbidden word.

The only connection I can make is religion, because most people believe fornicating is wrong and their religion forbids it. They are required to be married before doing the deed.

All and all it's idiotic. So my children can say it all they want. When If and when I have some.

jet jaguar 2.0

06-24-2006, 03:15 AM

It's just and acronym for FORNICATION UNDER CONSENT of the KING.

You've got to be joking! I've never heard that before but it makes sense. I mean, where else would the word F--K come from anyway? Hmmm, learn something new everyday but I'm going to research just to be sure.;)

edit - according to the all-knowing, always reliable wikipedia, the etymology for the f-word you put forth is a false one. Says so right here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****). Yeah I know wiki is hardly infallible but I'm not going to put a whole lot of effort into researching this.

Sang

06-24-2006, 04:44 AM

but i wouldnt recomment such games to anyone younger then 16

Well, why not?

InAction

06-24-2006, 05:42 AM

I hate most americans for their double morality.

Father - Hey son(8 years), let's blow some brain out in CS!
Son - Hell yeah!
Father - OH MY GOD, YOU LIEK TEH SWEERED!!111½½½ YOR GOING TO HELL SON FOR SUC PROFANITY!!!

:doh: :censored:

Kupferdrache

06-24-2006, 05:53 AM

Woah... hello america... someone who can stand "the body explodes and blood and feet rain from some tubes" can stand "they've got the whole ****ing bar".

Hell, raining feet are MUCH worse than just some "evil words that make little jesus cry".

Kupferdrache

06-24-2006, 05:56 AM

hehe, funny country, my words get "*" automatically. ;)

Tyrant's Heart

06-24-2006, 06:06 AM

The Dukenator

06-24-2006, 06:10 AM

Speaking of Steven Segal.. someone should make a shooter that features him as lead role.

"You talkin to me? Are you talkin to me ***hole? You must be, cause I don't see anyone else here ****face."

"You think this is being shot? This aint being shot. I'll show you being shot."

"Wanna play a game? Let's play a game. It's called.. I kick your teeth in, ***hole."

Mind explaining which movies those lines are from? Maybe a shooter featuring Seagal as the lead role would be a good idea, but it'll be so bad, it would never be finished.

On a side note, I swear 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Just don't piss me off.
Only problem with the constant swearing, you have to know when not to swear or use certain words when around certain people. Think before you act.

Gatinater

06-24-2006, 01:29 PM

Some of it he actually said in some his older movies, but most of it's paraphrased, exaggerated.

Everyone exaggerates his one liners. To elevate his comments from hot head lameness to funny.

Jokke_r

06-24-2006, 02:20 PM

thought that talkin to me comment was a de niro quote? wtf?

Kevin's girl

06-24-2006, 02:42 PM

You've got to be joking! I've never heard that before but it makes sense. I mean, where else would the word F--K come from anyway? Hmmm, learn something new everyday but I'm going to research just to be sure.;)

edit - according to the all-knowing, always reliable wikipedia, the etymology for the f-word you put forth is a false one. Says so right here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****). Yeah I know wiki is hardly infallible but I'm not going to put a whole lot of effort into researching this.

Actually, I heard it stands for Forcible Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.
I learned it in my criminal justice class when we were taught the origin of swear words. Way back in the day the word was used as an acronym by police officers when filling out a police report that had to do with rape.

Ivan

06-24-2006, 03:07 PM

Even without the swearing there is no way this game would be suitable for kids.

I don't see why this thread is still going on after this post..

PS: sup KG!? o/

snakes200

06-24-2006, 03:08 PM

i thought the swearing added a whole new dimension to the game. And something that was never meant for kids to begin with the swearing should stay.

Gatinater

06-24-2006, 03:59 PM

Seagal says it before he gets in a fight in a bar. Besides why does it matter?

I better contact the porn studio and ask them for a special versions that don't have such vulgar language. So it will be suitable for children to watch.

big fat lazy

06-24-2006, 04:22 PM

There's swearing and nudity in American tv, you idiots.
Don't some European countries take out blood from games or replace with black or green blood?

Drewcifer

06-24-2006, 04:38 PM

You've got to be joking! I've never heard that before but it makes sense. I mean, where else would the word F--K come from anyway? Hmmm, learn something new everyday but I'm going to research just to be sure.;)

edit - according to the all-knowing, always reliable wikipedia, the etymology for the f-word you put forth is a false one. Says so right here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/****). Yeah I know wiki is hardly infallible but I'm not going to put a whole lot of effort into researching this.

Nowhere on the page does it go into detail about the origin of any of the englsh swear words.

Gatinater

06-24-2006, 08:24 PM

Some believe it is an acronym and some believe it's just some word. Who really knows because this is a word that has been around as far as anyone can trace back. We all know that over time the meaning of words changes because people lose touch with it's orgin and redefine it's meanings.

It's also believed that in old english **** meant *prod or puncture* Which also makes sense because during sex you do prod and puncture things. I also inturpret "stop ****ing with me." As.. quit bothering me. As if the person is a thorn in one's side or an annoyance such as an uncomfortable pain such as a prick or a poke. In other words bothersome.

**** was also a synonym for punk. Long ago. Why over time it has changed in meaning so many times and so diversly.. who knows. It just did. Now it's one of the worst words you can use in the eyes of many and is nothing but a vulgarity that refers to sex.

Just makes me wonder which words we use now will mean something different in the future and be known as a vulgarity.

ercdevious

06-24-2006, 08:43 PM

Actually i think i just found a way to turn off swearing.. Its in the options menu if you look.. Unless im mistaken

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/Synthos/profanity.jpg

Gatinater

06-24-2006, 09:09 PM

And if you if switch *show weapons* to no.. you dispatch your enemys with hugs apologies, gifts and expressions of love. Platonic of course.

solobaricsrock

06-24-2006, 10:23 PM

seriously, to quote my favorite TV character (cartman)

"Whats the big f**kin deal b***h???"

ratiman

06-24-2006, 10:39 PM

I don't see why. If you are new to the 21st century. I even hear kids in grade 1 say things like "**** you whore!". The only game young children shouldn't play is Grand Theft Auto. I played duke nukem, and doom at a very young age. I never hurt anyone, or gone insane. If your kids can seperate virtual and real (thats a good thing). But if people start thinking maybe I should throw turtle shells at people (not good). Well, its not brainwashing anyone. I don't see the difference between being 18 or 10. The only people that really kill people don't even play video games. Do you people think that people living in the ghetto could afford video games?

Cheapy

06-24-2006, 11:03 PM

Do you people think that people living in the ghetto could afford video games?

No, because they've spent it all on bling and spinners (and surprisingly, music cds). :D

Gatinater

06-25-2006, 12:54 AM

You gotsta have the Spinners and bling or you nots hoppin fresh gangsta.

I'm pretty sure San Andreas was targeting the ghetto folk. Why do you think they don't pay their bills on time? They be buyin sometin else. Get wit da program playa. .. Don't be haten.

MrAkash

06-25-2006, 02:16 AM

I think the character's personality really calls for swearing...unfortunately.

But I agree, the less swearing and nudity in games, the better.

desmasic

06-25-2006, 02:43 AM

I think the character's personality really calls for swearing...unfortunately.

But I agree, the less swearing and nudity in games, the better.

Yeah, I love Mario too. Though I think that (annoying) princess was hot in that game, it deserved M rating for that.

Kupferdrache

06-25-2006, 03:14 AM

Well, it does not belong here, is off topic and in the forum of some (not necessarily US) company probably gets deleted, but since people seem to be interested:
The german word "ficken" which obviously has to do with your f-word - and on top of that means the same - comes from (theory one) medival times, when you were ramming a gate (like a citygate) open with a battering ram. A second theory states it refers to the old word "ficke" which is a pocket (in clothing). This could be true, since the swedish word for "pocket" is still today "ficka". Would make sense, somehow, since you "put things into pockets".
In some books "ficken" is the synonym for "rubbing", but there we had the problem to make clear where this synonimity comes from.
Another theory states it comes from the art of smithing. When a smith finished a sword, is has been dirty from ashes and stuff, so he would stick it into a sack of sand and pull it out fast again (repeat) to clean and polish the sword (the (translated) expression "to **** a sword" is orginated in this, but i never heard it, so this is likely to have outdated before my birth) . You do not need a dirty mind to draw certain parallels, I would say. ;)
You also have in catalanic the word "ficar", which basically means "to stick".

Oh, something else, i found another article that states the english f--- has been some normal swearing word that has been outlawed as evil in the 16th century, maybe in the 17th. It originally meant something like "penetrate" or "to hit someone" (literally).

Any more questions? Do not say you wouldn't learn something when dealing with computer games. :)

Now back to this thread: Raining heads and people who get turned by machines from people to soylent green - and the problem is some bad words? Wake up, Neo!

Gryph

06-25-2006, 11:02 AM

Just watch George Carlin's Seven Dirty Words bit on the origins of the word f***. :p

Gatinater

06-25-2006, 04:17 PM

Ficken.. What about frigging. "This frigging piece of garbage!!" Here it's ok to say frigging. Even though it's an alternative and means the same thing. Just as long as you don't say ****ing. English is full of teh funneys.

Many words are also acronyms yet not documented. So it's very possible the acronym went out of use before the dictionary existed. In acronym format it would have only been used exclusivly by dynastys. Also colonial or even earlier monarchys or royal societys.

Like WEB. Western Enforcement Bureau. You won't find that acronym documented anywhere, because it's a local task force and only applys to here.

In other words acronyms aren't really words. So who knows if it was an acronym or a word first. Or if it was an english word first. It's also possible it was at one time a synonym for puncture or punk and was also used as an acronym.

Drazula

06-25-2006, 04:40 PM

RedTiger

06-25-2006, 04:54 PM

I really can't see the benefit of profanity in Prey.

Fair enough, now turn it off and be happy.

DK2000

06-25-2006, 04:54 PM

I really can't see the benefit of profanity in Prey.

And I can't see the benefit of violence in Prey. Can't we just sit down and talk?!?
Where is the "violence off" button? :D

Mangopork

06-25-2006, 05:21 PM

Even without the swearing there is no way this game would be suitable for kids.

AGREED.

I'm 23, and I have an 8 year old brother whom I play halo and goldeneye with but there is NO WAY I would let him touch or even see me play prey (or doom 3 or quake 4 or silent hill, etc.). It's far too dark, gruesome, and malevolent.

Plus, the scene where two children kill each other was a bit much even for me. I can't imagine that would be healthy for a child to view.

So no, No prey for kids. Ever.

Hotapplepie

06-25-2006, 05:48 PM

Steve

06-25-2006, 05:53 PM

Please don't forget that there are kids and GOD fearing folks that love games too.:D
This game is not for kids. At all. Never. Just because it's "video game" does not mean it is for kids. You wouldn't let your kids watch a movie made for adults, would you? Yeah, thought so. You can kill something in a game but you're offended by swearing? That's just unreal...

Steve

06-25-2006, 06:01 PM

I think it is a good idea for cursing to be able to be turned off. I have a very protective stay at home mom and I have Far Cry Insitics Predator for the 360and they cuss just about every second so I cant play it near my mom becuase she will go crazy. She doesnt realy care about violence and sence i can turn off lanuage in Prey she will be happy that I can and she will say "Why dont all games do this?" and I will say "I duno. I guess the makers of Prey are genioues."
Again I just don't understand. If someone could clarify this it would be great:

Why are people who are offended by swearing in games not offended by the killing\shooting of game characters, etc? I'd love someone to explain that to me :)

Cheapy

06-25-2006, 10:16 PM

Perhaps you want to blast this game while your kids are around the area (not necessarily in the same room)?

Steve

06-25-2006, 10:17 PM

Perhaps you want to blast this game while your kids are around the area (not necessarily in the same room)?
Good point.

Hotapplepie

06-25-2006, 10:21 PM

Again I just don't understand. If someone could clarify this it would be great:

Why are people who are offended by swearing in games not offended by the killing\shooting of game characters, etc? I'd love someone to explain that to me :)
I dont know. Personally, I dont give a crap about swearing in games. I guess my mom is so strict on it is becuase games used to be very clean and had no cursing in them but now, sence games are more like movies they cuss alot more and I guess my mom, and alot of other people, just arent used to cursing in games yet

Steve

06-25-2006, 10:22 PM

I dont know. Personally, I dont give a crap about swearing in games. I guess my mom is so strict on it is becuase games used to be very clean and had no cursing in them but now, sence games are more like movies they cuss alot more and I guess my mom, and alot of other people, just arent used to cursing in games yet
I see. :)

hive33

06-25-2006, 10:42 PM

I am glad a game company took off the skirt of games. Swearing, crazy children of the corn kids, and good old fashioned blood. I really hope this game is successful so that other companies will feel a bit more at ease when tackling darker subject matter. It's about time companies worked with the esrb to give adults the games we want. Better than pulling that hidden code gimmick*cough hot coffee *cough. I hope HH sends a copy to Jack, asswipe, Thompson. Down with feminine characters!

jonsushi

06-25-2006, 11:47 PM

Actually you CAN shut off the profanity. Just go to Options>Look and set Allow Profanity to No.

This turns off the profanity in both the voice and subtitles.

Hey, just wondering...is this true for the 360 version too? Or just the PC?

hell-angel

06-26-2006, 01:47 AM

There should be more profanity in Prey and more blasphemy as well. The game really needs that. :p

Seriously, if you where in that situation, you would probably be swearing more then tommy is doing in Prey. So the swearing adds to the immersion and reality of the game. Also, the game is rated 17+, so kids should NOT be playing the game, no reason to remove the swearing for them. ;) :D

The Dukenator

06-26-2006, 03:04 AM

You seem to forget about explicit CDs, kids shouldn't even listen to those either.
Hell, I would never give my bro my CDs when I was getting rid of them as they have swearing in them.

If your PC travels with you, and you let others (like kids) use it.
You'll have to take the adult shit off the PC so they don't see them when they use it.
Plus it helps to supervise them so they don't also f*** it up.

Aegeri

06-26-2006, 07:48 AM

Plus the kids can now blow away aliens and rescue the girl along with the adults.

So:

Exploding wall anuses [whatever the hell those things are]

People being drilled to pieces by machines

Children being impaled

is LESS appropriate than a few "shits" and "****s"?

Nonsensical your logic is.

SuicideRUN

06-26-2006, 08:21 AM

There's swearing and nudity in American tv, you idiots.
Don't some European countries take out blood from games or replace with black or green blood?

The swearing and nudity on TV here in the US is nothing compared to other countries. In Japan alone they have game shows that make porn movies look tame. But that's how it is here, Sex is bad but Violence is ok, in the rest of the world it's the other way.

PlayfulPuppy

06-26-2006, 08:35 AM

Why don't we take a moment to look at this a different way. What did the profanity ADD to the game. It is not like the game takes place in a police station filled with criminals, or a prison where guys are trying to sound tough (for example, both Kingpin and Chronicles of Riddick require such dialogue).

I really can't see the benefit of profanity in Prey.
Humanity.

Most of the people I know swear occasionally, or if they're like me, at every given opportunity. I mean, think about it: It's a word. It's not a punch, a kick, or even an insult (Even though it can be used as one, but so can many other words). It's original meaning is lost to the ages, and in a modern context it's merely used as an accentuation. It can serve as a way to communicate a jovial atmosphere, the strength of an emotion or, in this case, the weight of a situation.

One of the things I learnt growing up is that very few people actually have a problem with swearing, they just don't like kids swearing because it destroys their own personal illusion of 'innocence'. Selfish people only act for their own benefit, and people that attempt to force this language restriction to maintain their own world view really grate on me for that paticular reason.

Back to the topic at hand, Tommy isn't some private schooled Christian who has any paticular focus on diction. He's a guy that was in the army and lived in a shithole reservation and generally disliked his life. Then, when the entire world is faced with mass extinction and he's presented with a world that only makes a horrifying kind of sense, do you really think he'd just stand there and say 'Gee willikers'?

No, and I doubt you would either. That's exactly why the profanity helps give Prey it's humanity.

Ferretwave333

06-26-2006, 08:40 AM

Well... I'm currently 17, I played Doom 3 at age 15, Duke Nukem at age 8 and Doom II at age 6... and there has been nothing wrong in those games for me...
Falcon
Note: It's completely legal in Spain buying those games regardless of your age.
played DOOM, Unreal and Quake at age 5, played Halo at age 10 and played DOOM 3, Quake 4, ect at age 13 and I'm fine. The only way games will make you a demented psycho is if you are already one.

hiob

06-26-2006, 08:45 AM

a typical american thread sex and swearing is tabu, but violence is no problem. no offense against you guys, it´s the media and Jack Thompson that piss me off.

Ferretwave333

06-26-2006, 08:45 AM

Really, Americans are a funny lot. You can have all the gore, the violence, the brutality on their media, from games to TV, but God forbid if there's swearing & nudity in them.

Remember how Janet Jackson's nipple go in the way of the manly game of Superbowl? What an uproar.
I find it funny how women are allowed to where MICROthongs and SEETHROUGH bikini tops but as soon as a nipple pops out suddenly there is an uproar. I mean WTF? Women these days are practically nude anyway. Society is messed up.

Fyrus Dakren

06-26-2006, 11:02 AM

Curse words are used to describe emotion when there is no other word that would describe what you feel. If you saw a bunch of vomit containing human hands and feet you wouldn't say, "What an incredibly ironic event!" I think the word "****" describes that better.

Aegeri

06-26-2006, 11:11 AM

Yes I can imagine Tommy going: Oh look a wonderful example of anus diarroheas maximus!!!!11onone

SuperMarioPsycho

06-26-2006, 01:17 PM

This is funny, on a moral level. So you believe that it is acceptable for children to play a game with extreme violence, depicting cruelty and torture and murder, yet you think its offensive for a child to hear a few petty swear words? I just think its very funny as well that bad slang words are more offensive then the aforementioned.

"I would rather see and let my children see people being tortured cruelly, and then killed, rather then dare to allow them to hear a bad word. Therefore Prey should have a feature that edits out swear words."

There you go buddy!

Fyrus Dakren

06-26-2006, 02:34 PM

Well really the goal in the first place should be to disable kids from buying the game, and of course they could also download the demo. But how many kids have access to a comp well enough to play Prey. The exception is for me, because I have had a slightly above average comp in my room since I was 11, and I am thirteen now.

hell-angel

06-27-2006, 02:12 AM

Yes I can imagine Tommy going: Oh look a wonderful example of anus diarroheas maximus!!!!11onone
That would actually be funny. :p

Aegeri

06-27-2006, 02:17 AM

That would actually be funny. :p
Ahhhh if only I had written the dialogue to this game...

;)

hell-angel

06-27-2006, 05:18 AM

Ahhhh if only I had written the dialogue to this game...

;)
Oh please no, I want to play the game, not be roling over the floor laughing all of the time. ;)

:p

But also I think that 80% of the gamers not get it. Some lines like that would be funny though. ;)

Aegeri

06-27-2006, 05:39 AM

I smell a Politically Correct dialogue rewrite mod coming on soon....

Demo spoilers potentially:

Remember folks it's perfectly acceptable to impale kids on spikes like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Aegeri/shot00005.jpg

and perfectly acceptable to have exploding wall anuses:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/Aegeri/shot00001.jpg

But HEAVEN FORBID any swearing. What, once Children start hearing words like "Shit" they quickly escalate into stealing things, burning houses and then murdering people. Violent deaths of children and other things however are perfectly normal and aren't a problem for children to see.

As a result I propose the "PC" mod where naughty words are written out.

For example instead of saying at the beginning of the game:

"What the **** are those things?"

Instead Tommy could say

"What the [are those unusual bipedal organisms that are probing me and my friends] are those things"

And numerous swear words could be replaced such as:

****=Banana
Shit=Banana

In fact, everything in the game could be banana.

Jenny: "What's happening Tommy?!"

Tommy: "Banana!"

Thereby preventing any naughty language, sexual innuendo or in fact, any form of potentially harmful dialogue from reaching your small childs virginal ears. Remember: All the computerised violence, people being impaled and hideous fleshy architecture can't harm your children as much as even a single swear word.

[Oh yes, I'm aware of the irony this board censors numerous swear-words].

Fyrus Dakren

06-27-2006, 10:18 AM

I think they should all be replaced with "Christmas"

EX: "I'm gonna beat the Christmas out of them"

Sars!

06-27-2006, 11:11 AM

Here's my movie as reaction on this g4y topic!
http://media.putfile.com/GoHome-Prey

hiob

06-27-2006, 11:22 AM

oh my god he´s possesed by some evil force

brock2621

06-27-2006, 11:33 AM

This topic is rich. But i turned swearing off in the menu (it doesn't really work). Is it possible that i'm mature enough to be "allowed" to see and hear whatever i want. But choose to turn swearing off just cuz i don't feel like hearing it? Cuz that's exactly what I did. I just didn't feel like hearing it. I don't like it. Plain and simple, and i appreciate them adding that feature but i wish it worked better.

Hotapplepie

06-27-2006, 12:01 PM

Yea, I can hear it and all but I dont like to hear people say f***. It just bothers me for some reason.

Drazula

06-27-2006, 12:04 PM

Humanity.

Most of the people I know swear occasionally, or if they're like me, at every given opportunity. I mean, think about it: It's a word. It's not a punch, a kick, or even an insult (Even though it can be used as one, but so can many other words). It's original meaning is lost to the ages, and in a modern context it's merely used as an accentuation. It can serve as a way to communicate a jovial atmosphere, the strength of an emotion or, in this case, the weight of a situation.

One of the things I learnt growing up is that very few people actually have a problem with swearing, they just don't like kids swearing because it destroys their own personal illusion of 'innocence'. Selfish people only act for their own benefit, and people that attempt to force this language restriction to maintain their own world view really grate on me for that paticular reason.

Back to the topic at hand, Tommy isn't some private schooled Christian who has any paticular focus on diction. He's a guy that was in the army and lived in a shithole reservation and generally disliked his life. Then, when the entire world is faced with mass extinction and he's presented with a world that only makes a horrifying kind of sense, do you really think he'd just stand there and say 'Gee willikers'?

No, and I doubt you would either. That's exactly why the profanity helps give Prey it's humanity.
While swearing in anger is one thing, I find those that swear in normal conversation, do so because they have extremely poor language skills. It reminds me of people who use the word "LIKE" in every sentence. "I was like, F*cked-up."

To me, profanity is a question of intelligence and being able to communicate. I get on my kids to speak properly so they are articulate, capable of stating their thoughts in a meaningful way. It has nothing to do with innocence.

As for being taken up in a space ship, my reaction is portrayed very well in Prey. I'd be the guy in the fetal position mumbling to himself. Believe me when I say, the last thing I would do when being abducted by aliens is swear!

:)

Fyrus Dakren

06-27-2006, 12:53 PM

I have a very, very good vocabulary. If I'm with my friends we swear all the time. I just think it's funny that people can be so offended by just words. I mean, who decided that these words were bad. Of course, there are words I do not like to say like, godd*** or the N word. And I definitely don't go to my elders and swear. I regularly see R rated movies and play M games, however I go to a gifted school in Virginia Beach and make As and Bs. I am mainly nice to people and have a positive attitude. So just because I swear and see vulgarity regularly, it doesn't mean I am a ignorant or bad person.

brock2621

06-27-2006, 01:14 PM

There are associations with words. When someone hears a word, it's associated with a thought, memory, object, person etc. You can't say "it's just a word." Hour entire justice system, moral system, communication system uses these.

"Hang and burn you ****in N******!!!!!!"

That sentence has associations with it. Very very negative ones at that. So does swearing and other derogatory words of that nature. If you can't express anger than with swear words... that's just sad. I respect a script writer who can express emotion without just throwing F-bombs with different insinuations that change based on a contextual environment. That's why I appreciate a filter. I'm not the only gamer in the world that thinks that way either whether you believe me or not.

I'm a 20 year old college student who doesn't swear! Can you believe it?!

AdrenalineAddict

06-27-2006, 01:23 PM

I can't even blieve this is an issue. Fact: The majority of americans use, or have used profanities to express anger/frustration etc. It's part of our culture and part of the urban english language.

Do these words offend you? Does the word shit make you cry? Step outside your house into the real world for a second and realize that there is no such thing as 'bad' words. Just words that people refuse to use because they are elitist and/or higher above the MAJORITY of the world who uses what is conceived as harsh language.

Back on topic:

I think it became extremely evident that the game isn't made for people who cry at bad words when the ten year old boy was impaled by his younger sister in a demonic rage.

Mr Minority

06-27-2006, 01:37 PM

i'm 14 and i'm not very affected by this game...i hear language all the time..itz w/e...and violence..w/e...sex w/e...so yea its all good for me
but for someone i guess younger than 12 i wouldn't recommend unless they like rapists or some shh..

brock2621

06-27-2006, 01:54 PM

I can't even blieve this is an issue. Fact: The majority of americans use, or have used profanities to express anger/frustration etc. It's part of our culture and part of the urban english language.

Do these words offend you? Does the word shit make you cry? Step outside your house into the real world for a second and realize that there is no such thing as 'bad' words. Just words that people refuse to use because they are elitist and/or higher above the MAJORITY of the world who uses what is conceived as harsh language.

That quote is laughable. I just don't swear because i respect the other people around me, plain and simple. I don't like that you are insinuating that every single person that doesn't swear is hot-headed and lives in their own little world. And all the normal people that swear are the only ones with a true grasp on reality.

I agree the game isn't for kids. Obviously. But just because i don't swear or like hearing it doesn't make me a kid.