Back to the Future

[Michelangelo]

I was just curious and this most probably has been posted before

How futuristic will DNF be in the way of flying cars or aerobots or retina scans or plasma doorways etc etc etc

I hope I can get some info

Thks in advance :love:

[hiob]

watch the 2001 e3 trailer, then you know as much as we all do

[naddie]

It'd probably take place not too far off from Duke3D.

[Commando Nukem]

and Duke3d probably took place a day or two after Duke Nukem 2 which was 1997. Putting DNF probably at about 2001 his time.

[the true duke]

what year was dn3d, im not a hardcore duke fan so i dont know much about duke nukem or his creators.

[hiob]

you heaven :p

[Commando Nukem]

what year was dn3d, im not a hardcore duke fan so i dont know much about duke nukem or his creators.

I typod on my first "DNF" I meant Duke3D. :P and I was actually wrong, Duke2 took place a year after DUke1, Duke 1 was 97 I believe. (Am I wrong there?)

[Micki!]

Yes, (1997 WAS future back then afterall) And because Duke 2 was a year after it's from 1998, and Duke3D was supposed to start where Duke2 ended... So somewhere in 1998...

[Altered Reality]

If Duke3D was set in 1998, what is an OLD "December 2007" doing in that building in E1L1? And what about "Duke was here, 2017"? :rolleyes:

[Micki!]

If Duke3D was set in 1998, what is an OLD "December 2007" doing in that building in E1L1? And what about "Duke was here, 2017"? :rolleyes:

Don't ask me, as if i stated this...
That's what i've heard, and appearantly, it should have been official...:o

Not my fault if there are any conflicts...

[Mr.Fibbles]

If Duke3D was set in 1998, what is an OLD "December 2007" doing in that building in E1L1? And what about "Duke was here, 2017"? :rolleyes:
Don't ask questions.
Does a computer game have to make sense? There are aliens invading earth, does it matter what year it is?
Anyway, I assume DNf will take place in the "not so distant future." Based on the release of DNF, that would be somewhere between 2010 and 3000 AD.

[the true duke]

remember were talking about a game, idk about you guys but playing "The Incredible hulk: ultimate destruction" was a blast. is wanst real at all, it didnt have human limitations to it, thats why it was so great. you could jump really far and smash things people cant really smash or do.

[shiranui]

you heaven :p

Actually, that spelling makes you the heathen.....

[hiob]

whoops, that´s what happens if you don´t use your brain or a dictionary.

[Monkey Butler]

Don't ask questions.
Does a computer game have to make sense? There are aliens invading earth, does it matter what year it is?
No it doesn't really matter, but a plot hole is still a plot hole.

[Spyd]

whoops, that´s what happens if you don´t use your brain or a dictionary.
Are you implying that if you use a dictionary you don't need a brain? :D

Well, by the way, I liked the not-so-distant future in DN3D, and it really seems like DNF will be the same... But as we all know, the 2001 trailer doesn't work as a reference because is all scraped off, so who knows?

I guess that after the Prey buzz has died 3DR will start to say something about DNF. Or at least is what I hope.

[the true duke]

lets have the time where were not in it, 2101 is ok.

[hell-angel]

Are you implying that if you use a dictionary you don't need a brain? :D

What? You need a brain?? :p

I guess that after the Prey buzz has died 3DR will start to say something about DNF. Or at least is what I hope.
That's what we all hope for. ;)

[Otto von Keisinger]

That's what we all hope for. ;)
*Prey hype dies* Yup, DNF is still WID!!!

[Drewcifer]

plasma doorways

That's one door I would not want to walk through...



And that is my contribution to this thread. Ta.

[StainedCheeks]

i think Duke nukem is classified as a sc fi shooter or fps. We have all seen the flying cars in 2001 so my gues would be its in the future. with a little sc fi stuff as they have allways put in.

[hell-angel]

i think Duke nukem is classified as a sc fi shooter or fps. We have all seen the flying cars in 2001 so my gues would be its in the future. with a little sc fi stuff as they have allways put in.
All duke games played in the future or had futuristic stuff in it. :)

[StainedCheeks]

yes, gata love the sci fi..they can make so many more duke games its not funny. like doing a pitch black kinda story where he has crashed onto an alien world. or he is lost in deep space...i love sci fi and Duke is the hero. Iam constantly thinking of stories with Duke. He will allways be at the top and iam so glad they didnt sell him to EA fo 80 million. 3DR know he is hot and iam sure ut wont taklwe another 10 years, Dukes birth was great and now we get to watch him grow up. I ve got 6 kids and Duke is a household name here. just waitting on 3DR to say "come get some"

[Gatinater]

I can understand the hover cars and some of the other things, but I hate when movies get rid of all modern things and replace them with alternate things that aren't better than existing technolology, they just do it so it looks futuristic.

Hover cars, rail guns, lasers, pulse rifles, shock rifles and shock cannons are possible to achieve right now. It's just a factor of economics, resources and need that keep these things out of mind. Besides you think the governments are going to let everyone know what tecnology is at their disposal?

I think wheel automobiles will be around until hovering ones are more cost effective to manufacture and for the consumer. Even then ground cars will be so cheap by then that sales and use would still be high.

I prefer scenarios that are practical. Sci-fi tends to create a reallity in which eco·nomics don't exist. Cost efficiency and necessity don't factor into their technology of choice.

[Drewcifer]

I agree with Gatinater. There are cars, and there are aircraft. There will never be "hover cars". The amount of energy those things would require would be ridiculous. But you lost me on shock rifles. What the hell are those?

[Gatinater]

They project shock waves opposed to firing an explosive projectile.

[Drewcifer]

Wouldn't those be very ineffective? Every time the target distance doubles, their effectiveness would be reduced by a factor of four...

[Micki!]

Wouldn't those be very ineffective? Every time the target distance doubles, their effectiveness would be reduced by a factor of four...


Wouldn't that depend, if it was a long/short range weapon..?

[Drewcifer]

The intensity of a shock wave is dependent on its surface area. Since the surface area is proportional to the square of distance travelled, the intensity is inversely proportional to the square of distance.

[Micki!]

Meaning it's best for close range...

Couldn't you just have said that insdtead..? :rolleyes:

[Drewcifer]

Yes, it would be suitable for short range. However, any ballistic weapon would probably be way more effective at any range.

[Micki!]

Depends, what kind of damage does it make..?
It might be more usefull in some occations...

Like, a shotgun does alot of pure physical damage, by blowing holes in the body, and suff... You know...

A shockrifle after this description, sounds lesser "physical" and might be a good "neatralizing" weapon... Rather than a lethal, carnage weapon (shotgun)...

Well, that depends on the power i believe... Right..?

[Drewcifer]

Depending on the wavelength of the sound, (and when we talk about shockwaves we are basically talking loud low-frequency sounds) the weapon could be used to 'push' the enemy back, or to rip them to shreds I suppose. The problem with the second option is the intensity of the sound would have to be unimaginably high to do any damage, so what you would most likely see is a low frequency sound designed to "force push" people back and disarm them. If you've seen Minority Report, there is a hand-held weapon in that movie that uses a sound wave to push someone off their feet. But its effective range would be so small that it wouldn't have any military applications. However, police and especially riot police could find a use for it.

[Micki!]

I haven't seen that movie, yet...
But i can imagine it the way you described it...

Anyways, i suddenly came to think of the "shock rifle" in the UT games... It's nothing like shockwaves, but more a low powered railgun...

Perhaps that was what was meant with "shock rifle"..?

In case it's not, let's continue the discussion :hhg:, but let's not forget, it's just a game, and reality doesn't always have to draw the line of it being "possible"

[DavoX]

There's not much time for the prey hype to die.

[Nacho]

watch the 2001 e3 trailer, then you know as much as we all do

No, that is very out of date.

Let's just say: We know nothing.

[hell-angel]

No, that is very out of date.

Let's just say: We know nothing.
That's not completely true either, we know a lot of things, we just don't know what they look like. ;)

(for example, we know that the battlelord from D3D returns).

[Nacho]

True, I should of pointed out we don't know what anything looks like anymore.

But many things have changed since 2001 why else are we told to ignore it.

[StainedCheeks]

hey guys when this game comes out our girlfriends are gana dump us. so on the day it comes out we should all buy our chickies a bunch of flowers or something because we are gana be busy for a while.;)

[hell-angel]

True, I should of pointed out we don't know what anything looks like anymore.

But many things have changed since 2001 why else are we told to ignore it.
They have literally said that everything of the 2k1 version was scrapped. :) (minus some network coding that is). That is why we know nothing. ;) (well, except for the bone they throw us now and then. :) )

[SyntaxN]

Please no flying civilian cars bullsh*t. Hovercrafts, huge robots etc. are ok as enemies though. It should be a believable world, with some futuristic elements (mainly for Aliens) in it :cool:

[Gatinater]

I haven't seen that movie, yet...
But i can imagine it the way you described it...

Anyways, i suddenly came to think of the "shock rifle" in the UT games... It's nothing like shockwaves, but more a low powered railgun...

Perhaps that was what was meant with "shock rifle"..?

In case it's not, let's continue the discussion :hhg:, but let's not forget, it's just a game, and reality doesn't always have to draw the line of it being "possible"

Nah, shock waves. Even if the rifles has only a 50 meters effective range it would be useful. Against armor and vehicles and Blowing holes in structures. It's a demolition tool not a long range weapon.

[Micki!]

Nah, shock waves. Even if the rifles has only a 50 meters effective range it would be useful. Against armor and vehicles and Blowing holes in structures. It's a demolition tool not a long range weapon.

So mainly, it's a mid to short range weapon... Are you sure it'll have these kinds of effects, blowing holes in walls, damaging armored targets etc..? (i hope so, because it sounds great)

Came to think of Beelze's Fangun, just this sounds alot more powerfull... (obviously, it's shockwaves, and not just air pressure)

[hell-angel]

So mainly, it's a mid to short range weapon... Are you sure it'll have these kinds of effects, blowing holes in walls, damaging armored targets etc..? (i hope so, because it sounds great)

Came to think of Beelze's Fangun, just this sounds alot more powerfull... (obviously, it's shockwaves, and not just air pressure)
If the shock is powerfull enough it should be able to do it. The question then remains if you are able to hold it while it fires. :)

[Micki!]

Yeah... Are we talking about a single shock wave per fire, or a constant stream of shockwaves, geting more powerfull the longer it's active..?

(Single shockwaves, right..?)

[Drewcifer]

If the shock is powerfull enough it should be able to do it. The question then remains if you are able to hold it while it fires. :)

This is a good point. We often forget to take into account conservation of momentum. A shockwave powerful enough to blow a hole in a building would have a recoil powerful enough to launch the user several feet back, at least. Of course, there are ways to dampen recoil but it would always be a huge issue with this gun.

Now a laser gun, on the other hand, uses massless photons, so there is no recoil.

[The Red Slaughter]

I can understand the hover cars and some of the other things, but I hate when movies get rid of all modern things and replace them with alternate things that aren't better than existing technolology, they just do it so it looks futuristic.

Hover cars, rail guns, lasers, pulse rifles, shock rifles and shock cannons are possible to achieve right now. It's just a factor of economics, resources and need that keep these things out of mind. Besides you think the governments are going to let everyone know what tecnology is at their disposal?

I think wheel automobiles will be around until hovering ones are more cost effective to manufacture and for the consumer. Even then ground cars will be so cheap by then that sales and use would still be high.

I prefer scenarios that are practical. Sci-fi tends to create a reallity in which eco·nomics don't exist. Cost efficiency and necessity don't factor into their technology of choice.


Well, Rail Guns, Lasers, Pulse Rifles, Shock Rifles, Plasma weapons and such are o.k, but I prefer them to be at alien's hands. Of course, human-made Plasma Rifles would be cool, showing humanity's inovative nature.

[Gatinater]

Just because you haven't seen it.. Just because they're not advertising to you.. just because some hack inventor isn't publisizing just to make a name for himself doesn't mean the pentagon or Federal government isn't playing with prototypes presently.

Plus why let your potential enemys know what aces you have up your sleeve? It's where the terms classified and top secret come from.

[Micki!]

Just because you haven't seen it.. Just because they're not advertising to you.. just because some hack inventor isn't publisizing just to make a name for himself doesn't mean the pentagon or Federal government isn't playing with prototypes presently.

Plus why let your potential enemys know what aces you have up your sleeve? It's where the terms classified and top secret come from.


True, always good to have a surprise at hand, when something un expected should happen... :o

[The Red Slaughter]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gatinater
Just because you haven't seen it.. Just because they're not advertising to you.. just because some hack inventor isn't publisizing just to make a name for himself doesn't mean the pentagon or Federal government isn't playing with prototypes presently.

Plus why let your potential enemys know what aces you have up your sleeve? It's where the terms classified and top secret come from.



True, always good to have a surprise at hand, when something un expected should happen...

oh yeah, like the Devastator Gun was a top secret from Pentagon. A good level could be made. One envolving Duke entering a secret weapon factory of teh governament, trying to stop the aliens on getting they slimer hands on some experimental toys of the governament.

[Echo Black]

oh yeah, like the Devastator Gun was a top secret from Pentagon. A good level could be made. One envolving Duke entering a secret weapon factory of teh governament, trying to stop the aliens on getting they slimer hands on some experimental toys of the governament.

The aliens had better technology than humans in D3D, why would they need to steal things from humans :D

[d3ad connection]

Because Duke was kicking their ass with them.

[The Red Slaughter]

Think about some POWERFUL gun that the Governament had and the aliens don't...

[StainedCheeks]

like the lasers they have that burns out thr retnas and causes instant blindness.

[Malgon]

Some sercet-military weapons along with some alien technology would probably be a the sort of mix DNF would have I reckon.

[hell-angel]

This is a good point. We often forget to take into account conservation of momentum. A shockwave powerful enough to blow a hole in a building would have a recoil powerful enough to launch the user several feet back, at least. Of course, there are ways to dampen recoil but it would always be a huge issue with this gun.

Now a laser gun, on the other hand, uses massless photons, so there is no recoil.
A plasma gun is also ok, since it doesn't have to blow the hole but can burn it. I imagine the same with the shockwace, that it cuts through it or something, or heats up the area enough.
Theoretically that is. ;)