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Denz
07-03-2006, 07:04 PM
In FPS, i noticed that you often get near enemies, near enought to punch them. I replayed HL2 now, and at the start i found myself to be a lot near enemies, and i wanted to kick them, punch them or making them fall off while i used the pistol. And yet no games has that feature yet. Could be fun to push enemy back, or put his hands away so he don't aim at you. Or simply punch them while firing. Or making them fall off when you are in a high place.

the true duke
07-03-2006, 07:28 PM
f.e.a.r has that feature, and doom3 has that feature too. and hl2 mod (half-life 2: substance) does to. but duke has the boot and which hurts more, getting punch in the gut or kicked in the gut with a steal-toe. people usually exerts more force into kicks than they do punches.

Denz
07-03-2006, 07:40 PM
I don't remenber that in F.E.A.R. or DOOM 3 you can use fist while actually using the one handed gun. What i said is being able to use the left hand in combat while holding the one handed gun in the right hand.

the true duke
07-03-2006, 08:20 PM
o while in combat with a gun, i dont think dnf will do that cause duke is a shoot a person, shoot the same person agian, blow him up with a pipe bomb and then try to ask some questions type of guy.

Yatta
07-03-2006, 08:21 PM
Duke doesn't punch people in the ass. He kicks people in the ass! :)

Denz
07-03-2006, 08:22 PM
MMh yeah that is pretty right, almost all the weapon are two handed except the little gun, and on top of that, with the mighty boot, i'd love to kick the balls of the aliens. :D

The Red Slaughter
07-04-2006, 01:04 AM
What about THE TWO? Say, Duke finds a pig cop near a rooftop, dish out some punchs on him, them kicks him off to kiss the concrete. Another situation that would require HtH skills is when Duke comes in a place witha big ass monster and a some lame-ass monsters that ARE going to be anoying.

So Duke could sneak on them and kick they asses, so that I would be just he and the big ass monster (Why we all love saying Big Ass Monster (Alien)?).

cladinshadows
07-04-2006, 04:41 AM
o while in combat with a gun, i dont think dnf will do that cause duke is a shoot a person, shoot the same person agian, blow him up with a pipe bomb and then try to ask some questions type of guy.

In Duke3d you can kick people and shoot them at the same time.
I'm expecting the same in DNF.

Doom has punching, Duke has to have the kicking! lol It's gratifying and unique.

Sang
07-04-2006, 05:48 AM
Yeah, I want to kick at all times, even while moving :) I hope to god it won't be like you can't kick unless you're standing still.

trackit
07-04-2006, 06:17 AM
Yeah, I want to kick at all times, even while moving :) I hope to god it won't be like you can't kick unless you're standing still.

yea, at the same time i want to kick with both legs and run, just like in dn3d :D

Denz
07-04-2006, 08:36 AM
In Duke3d you can kick people and shoot them at the same time.
I'm expecting the same in DNF.

Doom has punching, Duke has to have the kicking! lol It's gratifying and unique.


Not kick and fire at the same time, but punch with left hand, and fire with right hand, when you got the one handed little ***** gun. :p

Micki!
07-04-2006, 08:59 AM
Anyone remember the funny "Mighty boot expansions" thread..? :D

That thread was really funny, i still remember the wierd ideas, like "Mauntain boots" with those giant spikes, "golf shoes", "inline skaters" (sp..?!) "Cowboy boots", "fluffy bunny slippers", "Jet boots" (with that extra *KICK* with a boost :D) and much more... too bad the thread is dead...

Denz
07-04-2006, 10:18 AM
Flying boot of ultimate destiny.

Beelze
07-04-2006, 01:16 PM
As Edward George Earl Bulwer-Lytton wrote in 1839, "The Boot Is Mightier Than The Fist."

Micki!
07-04-2006, 02:12 PM
As Edward George Earl Bulwer-Lytton wrote in 1839, "The Boot Is Mightier Than The Fist."

What a great Quote...
That's pure Sig material... Too bad mine is pretty "stuffed" already... :o

Otto von Keisinger
07-04-2006, 03:54 PM
As Edward George Earl Bulwer-Lytton wrote in 1839, "The Boot Is Mightier Than The Fist."
Sigged.:)

Micki!
07-04-2006, 04:01 PM
At least someone else did it... :)

the true duke
07-04-2006, 08:10 PM
dude, it was the pen is mightier than the sword. and it wasnt edward, its was apu hasapasapatapotilon

JayBiggS
07-04-2006, 09:25 PM
I hope you can kick hinged doors open. Not necessarily break them, but just swing them open real fast with the use of your shit kicking boot and let the lead fly when its open :D

In duke3d I used to press kick and the open key simultaneously to pretend I was kicking the door open so this is the next logical step :P It really feels cool too!

Rassilon
07-04-2006, 09:40 PM
I think Duke should have melee attacks like in F.E.A.R with the flying scissor kick and the floor slide, but insead of punches and gun whipping have a standard kick with possible steel-cap boot upgrade.

the true duke
07-04-2006, 09:41 PM
in rtcw you can kick the doors open for a open battles and then yuo can open them normally for a quite approach.

Malgon
07-04-2006, 11:44 PM
Duke should be able to use the boot while in combat (A fist isn't as much of Duke's style, although it could still work). It just adds a bit of diversity to combat, while seperating it from other FPS's that are around.
I believe Duke used the boot (while holding a gun) to kick open a door in the 2001 trailer, so I'm assuming that it still remains in the current version.

StainedCheeks
07-04-2006, 11:54 PM
^yes i like it, you did see the boot in the trailer, still hope that we get to see dukes masive arms somehow. pumped up, mabey grabing enemy by the top of the head then shoves shoty into mouth and says" suck it down" boom alien brains all over strip club floor. hehe that be cool.

shiranui
07-05-2006, 02:28 AM
So, Denz is calling for some good ole fisting action.....

Denz
07-05-2006, 08:00 AM
Ha!

I don't remenber that in F.E.A.R. or DOOM 3 you can use fist while actually using the one handed gun. What i said is being able to use the left hand in combat while holding the one handed gun in the right hand.


It's not old but new kind of action.

Otto von Keisinger
07-05-2006, 05:08 PM
Why would you want to fist the GSPCs? The mighty boot has better range, more power, and it looks cooler (not to mention reducing the number of fisting jokes).

Denz
07-05-2006, 07:07 PM
Yes, but in HL2 that would be nice. Freeman seems too lazy to put his foot up, so using etheir the weapon like the enemy does when you geat near, beating the enemy with the weapon. Or use one of your fist.

Otto von Keisinger
07-05-2006, 10:52 PM
Play SMod. :p

cladinshadows
07-05-2006, 11:40 PM
^
Is the the one you can kick in? lol that looks so cool!

Otto von Keisinger
07-06-2006, 01:31 AM
Yes, it is.

Gatinater
07-06-2006, 07:41 AM
Duke doesn't punch people in the ass. He kicks people in the ass! :)

Yup, Yatta is the only ass-puncher around here. Abusing them fannys with his five knuckles of fury.

Kicks aren't really more powerful than punches. Not unless you have something like a steel toe (as mentioned) or cleats. Personally I feel being hit by knuckles hurts more than being hit by a foot or a shoe.

Micki!
07-06-2006, 10:04 AM
Personally I feel being hit by knuckles hurts more than being hit by a foot or a shoe.

I would agree with that actually, unles it was a karate kick or something... But we all know Duke is only doing front kicks... (well, in some console games, he did different, but i wouldn't really concider them as real Duke games, because of the different weapons, story, and stuff)

But, Duke is not kicking with his bare feet, nor with shoes, but with his Army boots (or whatever those are) and i believe they add a little more "punch" than any other foot wear...

Of course, we shouldn't even think too much into this... It's a game afterall, and exageration is normal... He's an Alien Asskicker too, so it would be sad hving a weak kick attack...

Anyways, to jump on topic again, i don't think the game will need more than one melee attack, other than the mighty boot, even if a fist attack would be cool... But why bother with either a kick or a fist when attacking an enemy, if both are practically the same attack..?

Denz
07-06-2006, 10:57 AM
No! They aren't the same in my idea. What i said it being able the push, destabilize, make fall or punch enemies when they are near enought. It's either that or being able to kick enemies balls. :D

Gatinater
07-06-2006, 11:58 AM
Yeah, I see cause sometimes a person is just too close to kick. They have to be beyond reaching distance to really get a good wind and nail them. Any other way their body would just block it.

A martial artist also kicks as hard as he or she punches. Plus those with a lot of upper body strength are naturally going to have a more powerful punch.

Kicks are good for reach but punches do more damage. Plus you're more open to an attack when you kick high. Trips and sweeps are best. If you can nail the guy right in the knee, shin or ankle with a low kick you'll slow him down and the injury will degrade his or her concentration. Other than that trip and stomp. Trip, after they hit floor stomp.

Straight on high kicks don't seem to have much advantage over punches other than reach, but roundhouse type kicks do offer a wallup. I'l agree there. Must be all of the momentum + body weight. But a roundhouse punch is also pretty painful.

It's limb + strength + Momentum. You kick just as hard as punch. All depends on your position and the punch. That's the trouble with confrontation. you never really have the oppurtunity to hit em with a high kick. They are either too close or too far away. Short people only have an advantage with kicks. SHORT LEGS. BUT they're light weights. So it's a crappy trade off when you compare the two.

Plus.. a rifle whip or pistol whip would hurt much more than either a punch or kick.

The fact that your hand collapses when you strike something results in absorbed impact, but a sloid steel object in that hand such as a the grip of a Daddy Eagle greatly increaes the impact. ;) Or he could just wack em with the gun.

Micki!
07-06-2006, 11:58 AM
Hmm, but still, wouldn't it be too similar..? And it would also need just another key binding...

Although, i like the idea in general, i'd like DNF to be easy to control too... And with a kick feature implemented already, i feel like this is a little unnecessary...

So unless 3DR haven't already put this feature in of course, that's a different matter... :)

[EDIT:] (added this)


Straight on high kicks don't seem to have much advantage over punches other than reach, but roundhouse type kicks do offer a wallup. I'l agree there. Must be all of the momentum + body weight. But a roundhouse punch is also pretty painful.

It's limb + strength + Momentum. You kick just as hard as punch. All depends on your position and the punch. That's the trouble with confrontation. you never really have the oppurtunity to hit em with a high kick.

Still, that's in real life...

In games, it's more about the hit points, and the impact that matters, which of course, can be "turned a bit up" and seem more overpowered than in real life...

Take FEAR as an example... Every melee attack is lethal... kicks or punches, it doesn't matter, because if you're up close, you just need to kick a guy anywhere, or punch him to the face, and he's out...

That's very unrealistic, but F*** it's cool... And just like in DNF, a kick should be more deadly like in real life... doesn't matter if a flying kick, or scissor kick is more "deadly" in real life, because ina game, a simple front kick is just as (if not, alot) better anyways...

I'm not saying DNF should have as deadly melee attacks as in FEAR, i'm saying it could still seem alot more effective, than it normally would in real life...

Denz
07-06-2006, 01:29 PM
Well with the kick, i would absolutely love being able to hit the balls and/or disarm the enemy by kicking it's weapon... :o

Micki!
07-06-2006, 01:36 PM
Well with the kick, i would absolutely love being able to hit the balls and/or disarm the enemy by kicking it's weapon... :o

I'd laugh my ass of if i happened to Dis-ARM my enemy... :hhg:

:o

Not gonna happen though.. i know... :dopefish:

The Red Slaughter
07-07-2006, 11:17 PM
Yeah, kicking they weapons if they're TOO close could be good and useful for Pigcops using automatics or something. Oh, and what's GSPC?

StainedCheeks
07-08-2006, 12:54 AM
it be cool to punch a pigcop so much he turns to bloody pulp, then if you keep punching his head caves in, then to top it off you can start kicking him too which would just make him explode into guts and gore.

Xerxes
07-08-2006, 12:58 AM
You know, the aliens all come from a queen, so they probably don't have balls...

Even if they didn't, they probably wouldn't have any balls(or not care if they get hit there)...

The Red Slaughter
07-08-2006, 03:03 AM
Yup, Yatta is the only ass-puncher around here. Abusing them fannys with his five knuckles of fury.

I LOLed myself with that funny throught. I mean, can you imagine a ass-PUNCHER? The MAN coming punching ASS? Wow, Yatta abuses them poor aliens with his knuckles of death!

Oh, and by the way, maybe they "balls" are in truth square-ish. You can neve know...

Denz
07-08-2006, 05:32 AM
Pig cops must have balls, because they are evolved pigs.

zwieback
07-08-2006, 06:41 AM
Who's stronger? Duke of Chuck Norris ? Who has the better Roundhouse kick? :insomnia:

Xerxes
07-08-2006, 06:51 AM
Pig cops must have balls, because they are evolved pigs.
Could've been castrated...

But they probably wouldn't care if they got kicked in the balls.

StainedCheeks
07-08-2006, 06:55 AM
dude round house kicks are weak. trust me i know. chucks side kick which was taken from bruce is way more powerfull. back kicks are more powerfull then round house kicks. think about the wieght in a round house kick. i train so i do know. if your gana do a round house to my upper body i would lower myself under ur kick then just stand up, you would fall on ur ass. they may look good on tv but they are shit. never kick above the waist. grab a arm then pull them into a kick into the gut.then while still holding the arm throw ur leg over the locked arm and fall to the ground. instant leg lock.

Gatinater
07-08-2006, 10:10 AM
Profesional Competition fighting isn't about power. It's about cornering or submitting your oppenent. You have bounds and if you get knocked out you lose points. You also get points for knocking opponents out of their bounds and pinning them. performing more complicated kicks and tosses earns you more points provided it leads to your opponent being pinned or the surrendering his line. It's a lot like traditional wrestling, not pro wrestling without the self inflicted cuts and hours of trash talk before an actual fight. Norris wasn't into full contact or pit fighting. In those matches the goal is to kick the crap out of the guy until you knock him out or kill him.

I'm sure there was one day when Norris could have mopped the floor with anyone, but now that he's older he just doesn't have the speed or drive to compete with any of these new competitive martial atrists.

The key is strike. No amount of punches or kicks in the world will help you if you can't strike. Norris is good, he may seem dweebish but he's good. Sure in Movies and TV he doesn't but it's all acting. They're just putting on show. So of course all of the kicks and punches are going to be weak. They don't want anyone to get hurt.

StainedCheeks
07-08-2006, 10:25 AM
yeah thats cool bro. thr point system is basically the safe way of learning martial arts. It is what they taught the 5 year olds in the orient. when the US stationed troops there in the 2nd world war the orients didnt teach them the proper "katas" they taught them the safe way which became popular in the west as point fighting. but when on the battle field there is no points. the old saying goes" cry in the dojo, laugh in the battle" thanks for ur input and i dont disagree with you. it is awwsumm to learn the art. and you sound cool. peace

The Red Slaughter
07-08-2006, 02:28 PM
Oh, and what 'bout the squares in the pigs?

Micki!
07-09-2006, 03:25 AM
Oh, and what's GSPC?

The full name is GSPCS
It's short for "Gothic Shemale PigCop Stripper"
---
You have been warned:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/651/pigcopstrippergspcs9ao.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pigcopstrippergspcs9ao.jpg)

Malgon
07-09-2006, 07:38 AM
Gross. :mryuck:

StainedCheeks
07-09-2006, 08:05 AM
lol, very good, i want a poster for my cieling.

Denz
07-09-2006, 08:55 AM
Could've been castrated...

But they probably wouldn't care if they got kicked in the balls.


**** that lets say they have balls so we can have funny kicks in the balls. :D

Gatinater
07-09-2006, 11:11 AM
How about an acoustic guitar. I always wanted to hear Duke exclaim KABONG!!

Xerxes
07-09-2006, 12:33 PM
You have been warned:
Where's the penis?! (since it's a shemale; should have a big floppy dick)

Micki!
07-09-2006, 01:27 PM
Where's the penis?! (since it's a shemale; should have a big floppy dick)

It's retractable... :o

Gatinater
07-09-2006, 03:44 PM
Where's the penis?! (since it's a shemale; should have a big floppy dick)
Does not thou notice thee crank?

Sang
07-09-2006, 04:24 PM
*fap* *fap* *fap*

Just kidding, rly guyz!

The Red Slaughter
07-09-2006, 06:30 PM
Eaaaaeeegh! THE HORROR! GSPCS! AH CARALHO! TIRA ISSO DE PERTO DE MIM! We should shot them ALL!


Oh, and by the way: Maybe Pigs Cops don't have balls. Maybe they have squares.

Micki!
07-10-2006, 02:41 AM
They have triangles, they look square though...

:censored:

hell-angel
07-10-2006, 03:15 AM
The full name is GSPCS
It's short for "Gothic Shemale PigCop Stripper"
---
You have been warned:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/651/pigcopstrippergspcs9ao.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pigcopstrippergspcs9ao.jpg)


I almost forgot who sexy it is. :D :love:

They have triangles, they look square though...

:censored:

And their long johns have the shape of a hexagon :censored:

The Red Slaughter
07-10-2006, 03:16 AM
Maybe even hexagons... Who knows xD...

Micki!
07-10-2006, 03:22 AM
And their long johns have the shape of a hexagon :censored:

Yeah, just a bit more flat in shape, it's hard to describe...:o

hell-angel
07-10-2006, 06:14 AM
Yeah, just a bit more flat in shape, it's hard to describe...:o
But they are damn sexy and feel good to. :o

:p

(hmm, going waaaaayyyyy!!!111oneoneone of topic here)

Micki!
07-10-2006, 08:48 AM
Unless you think of the same thing as me..? :eek: :love:

waffles
Who doesn't find this sexy, and love it..? :censored:

baff
07-10-2006, 02:12 PM
What about a four fingered ring with "Duked" written on it mirror image, so you can stamp your logo on peoples faces.

Otto von Keisinger
07-10-2006, 04:56 PM
Talk about a finishing move!

hell-angel
07-11-2006, 02:01 AM
Unless you think of the same thing as me..? :eek: :love:

waffles
Who doesn't find this sexy, and love it..? :censored:

Naturally. ;)

What about a four fingered ring with "Duked" written on it mirror image, so you can stamp your logo on peoples faces.
:cool:

the true duke
07-11-2006, 03:19 AM
Yup, Yatta is the only ass-puncher around here. Abusing them fannys with his five knuckles of fury.

Kicks aren't really more powerful than punches. Not unless you have something like a steel toe (as mentioned) or cleats. Personally I feel being hit by knuckles hurts more than being hit by a foot or a shoe.


then you must have been kicked by a sissy or them playing around or you cant take much pain. when people kick (when they really do kick hard) they exert more force into kicks.

but some people naturally punch harder than kick while others kick harder than punch.

hell-angel
07-11-2006, 05:15 AM
The reason most people hit harder then they kick is because it's easier to learn how to hit then how to kick. How ever, a kick has more mussle behind it (and more weight if done right) so if done right it's allways harder then a fist. :)

Gatinater
07-11-2006, 06:30 AM
Here's the deal with kicking. Most people don't follow through or do it properly. They just fling their leg and never retract then extend it. They just throw it straight out.

Kicks are never used in real fights anyway. Your up close and either you're going to subdue or kill the guy. Since you're in not ring no rules apply so you can back away all you want and force him to let his guard down. Outside of the ring you can set the terms of the fight. Solid or sharp objects are better than fist and feet.

It's simple then. Trip and stomp, toss and stomp. or choke hold and strangle or break neck. Or put to sleep.

Grab someone by the arm and slamming them into a hard surface or tossing them through into glass or slamming their head into a hard surface is much quicker and more powerful than any kick or punch.

There's a lot of things they don't allow you to do in the ring that are much better than anything you apply in the ring. No such thing as a fair fight outside of the ring.

It's much easier to grab a person's fist when they swing, twist and lock it behind their back then hammer their head into the nearest solid surface with your other hand. Or put the guy in a head lock, kick his legs or trip him so he falls to his ass or knees while clamping his neck until his wind pipe is crushed. Of course that is.. if lethal force is required. Alternativly hold him like that until he gives up or passes out.

If you have weak scrwany legs and only a poweful upper body then it's obvios your kicks will. It's were strength is. That's why hand to hand is a requires a quick mind and strong body. You're technique your form is no good if you don't have the power to back it up.

You also have to take a light weight versus a power house into consideration. The taller heavy weight is like a tank and hits like one too while the lightweight is more likely to hurt himself while attempting to attack the heavy weight.

f the ball of your foot isn't making direct contact with your hit zone then that means your not kicking corrctly.A roundhouse is just like a regular but you windup you get extra energy from the momentum. As you come and your foot lines up with your target you strike with it.

Micki!
07-11-2006, 08:03 AM
Let's not forget, yet again, that it's just a game...

hell-angel
07-11-2006, 08:27 AM
Let's not forget, yet again, that it's just a game...
No it isn't, it's a way of live. :mad:

;) :p

Malgon
07-11-2006, 08:30 AM
Gat sounds like the man to talk to for ass kicking skills. :o

hell-angel
07-11-2006, 08:38 AM
He know self defence and understands the principles behind it. It looks like it anyway.

He is right though. :)

Micki!
07-11-2006, 08:41 AM
Yes, but these facts still doesn't always belong to a game, unless it's a realism simulator...
But DNF is more like an Ass kciking simulator, so realism-ize his kicks, therby making them weaker, would be a damn shame... :(

hell-angel
07-11-2006, 08:44 AM
Uhm, you can kill a person with one well placed kick in RL, so unless you want 1 kick 1 kill in the game they had to make them weaker. ;)

Oh, and in D3D duke kicked properly, so don't worry about that. ;)

Micki!
07-11-2006, 08:48 AM
RL..?! :o

Malgon
07-11-2006, 08:50 AM
Real Life. :)

P.s. Woah, the forum said I was posting to fast! :D

Micki!
07-11-2006, 08:54 AM
Ahh, but still, that would require a well placed kick, and in games, it's mostly the hitpoints that count, rather then the effect and range compared to reallife...

Of course, it would be cool in DNF, if a Kick in the head was more lethal, than one in the chest area... :cool:

hell-angel
07-11-2006, 09:01 AM
Ahh, but still, that would require a well placed kick, and in games, it's mostly the hitpoints that count, rather then the effect and range compared to reallife...

Of course, it would be cool in DNF, if a Kick in the head was more lethal, than one in the chest area... :cool:
I agree with this. :)

Malgon
07-11-2006, 09:11 AM
Hehe, wanted to post that gif, but it's too big. :D

Micki!
07-11-2006, 09:14 AM
GIF..? What GIF..?
DAMNIT, NOW I'M CURIOUS!!! :eek:

Malgon
07-11-2006, 09:18 AM
It's in the `What should Human Head do after Prey' thread, second page under other games discussions board . I'd link to it, but I'm not sure how to do it correctly. :o

Micki!
07-11-2006, 09:20 AM
Ahh, that head-bump "attack" :D

Malgon
07-11-2006, 09:21 AM
As John posted: Football/Soccer - Serious business. :o

souleliminator
07-11-2006, 09:28 AM
It would be cool, if you stand near an enemie, you could grab him and shoot him in his head :cool:

hell-angel
07-12-2006, 01:55 AM
It would be cool, if you stand near an enemie, you could grab him and shoot him in his head :cool:
It would be more cool if you could grab him and kick him in the ass. ;) :cool:

Gatinater
07-12-2006, 03:39 AM
I'm just rambling.

Duke is not a ring fighter. He's a combat fighter. He's going for the quick kill. He's not fighting for points. He's fighting for purpose.

The kick really only has one good use in a game. Kicking over object, kicking open doors and breaking various objects. Or if you run out of ammo you have something to attack with, but all recent and current games give you melee weapons for that. Plust a rifle is a melee weapon. You hit with it and it does far more damage than the average person's fist, but a guy like Duke is so big he would probably crush your face with his fist.

He's brandishing firearms. He can just hit the dirtbags with those. it could only serve for effect though. It could be cool. Say for example an enemy ventures really close, like *touch you all over* close as in lover close, so you press the attack button and Duke automatically hits the punk with his gun causing the alien douche bag to fall over or stumble backwards. Then you could fill it full of lead.

I'm thinking Duke with a streak of cross dressing schizophrenia would be better and original. Duke with a pink purse full of bricks for melee. Swing it around and everytime you hit someone he shouts "Take that, You masher!" or "Take THAT you STUD! That was for giving me the vapors."

hell-angel
07-12-2006, 04:18 AM
I think kicking aliens asses gives duke a kick. :p

StainedCheeks
07-12-2006, 05:36 AM
rahh rahh rahh, kick alien knee with 40 pounds of presure! then kick him behind the elbow with 20 pounds!

baff
07-12-2006, 09:02 AM
Kicks are never used in real fights anyway. Your up close and either you're going to subdue or kill the guy. Since you're in not ring no rules apply so you can back away all you want and force him to let his guard down. Outside of the ring you can set the terms of the fight. Solid or sharp objects are better than fist and feet.

The first thing anyone should do in a fight is kick the other person in the balls.

If Pig cops are anything like real pigs, they are likely to have enormous unmissable football sized testicles.

Denz
07-12-2006, 10:32 AM
He's brandishing firearms. He can just hit the dirtbags with those. it could only serve for effect though. It could be cool. Say for example an enemy ventures really close, like *touch you all over* close as in lover close, so you press the attack button and Duke automatically hits the punk with his gun causing the alien douche bag to fall over or stumble backwards. Then you could fill it full of lead.



That what i was talkng about, kicking him when they are near enought, and punching them, with whatever you can. And then they can fall in pain and all. But it should be another key for the close attack.

Gatinater
07-12-2006, 11:19 AM
Why not automatic?

Denz
07-12-2006, 12:12 PM
I think it's funnier when it's player controlled. It needs try to see what is best.

baff
07-12-2006, 01:48 PM
How about left click is attack, and it shoots or kicks depending on how far away what you are aiming at is.

Denz
07-12-2006, 01:58 PM
Nah, it should be V for kick, and another one for punch.

hell-angel
07-13-2006, 01:58 AM
What, you guys want to turn DNF in to mortal combat now?? :)

Denz
07-13-2006, 05:50 AM
No, it's just fun to kick and punch enemies, not to combo them with 50 hits.

hell-angel
07-13-2006, 07:45 AM
No, it's just fun to kick and punch enemies, not to combo them with 50 hits.
Well, the combo is also fun. :D But duke doesn't need a combo. ;) :cool:

Beelze
07-13-2006, 08:03 AM
I hope DNF has some very detailed foot interaction, in a non-sexual way. The ability to actually land your kicks on the body parts you aim for would be very satisfying. Imagine kicking and shattering the head of someone you've frozen with the Freezer, kicking the weapons of your opponents out of their hands, or kicking aliens in the balls. It'd also be fun if you could trip enemies, use your knee on them, and play football (with their heads).

Denz
07-13-2006, 09:43 AM
^^ What he said.

baff
07-13-2006, 11:38 AM
In motor car racing you get drivers eye camera.
In space sims and Mechwarrior you get missile cam.

At the Grand National they have Horsecam attached to the saddle so that you can see the view of the race as if you were a horses arse with eyes.

I would like to see footcam. And ride it in.