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December Man
08-31-2006, 06:54 PM
List games that disappointed you the most(something different than "best games of yer life").

My list(in no particular order): Blood 2, The Suffering Ties That Bind, Call of Duty 2, Prince of Persia The Two Thrones, Diablo 2.

jimBoss
08-31-2006, 07:03 PM
Can I ask why you were disappointed by Diablo 2? I thought it was a great sequel- more additions and changes to Diablo 1 than you could point a snake-infested plane at.

Telee
08-31-2006, 07:04 PM
Perfect Dark Zero, Hitman: Contracts, Kameo: Elements Of Power, Star Fox Adventures, Army Men: Sarges War, Destroy All Humans!, and Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines.

This is all I can think of right now.

NutWrench
08-31-2006, 07:04 PM
No NOLF 3. :(

December Man
08-31-2006, 07:06 PM
Can I ask why you were disappointed by Diablo 2? I thought it was a great sequel- more additions and changes to Diablo 1 than you could point a snake-infested plane at.

Stop posting flame baits.

0marTheZealot
08-31-2006, 07:06 PM
Prey was a pretty big disappointment to me.

Phayzon
08-31-2006, 07:07 PM
Terminator 3, Quake 3, Doom 3, DNF , Heretic II. Thats All I can think of off the top of my head.

T3: It just sucked
Q3: WTF no single player?
D3: Nothing like Doom
H2: 3PS, not Serpent Rider related

you could point a snake-infested plane at.

lol

EDIT: Telee reminded me that PDZ and Star Fox Adventures sucked as well. Oh, and Paper Mario: The 1000 year door

Telee
08-31-2006, 07:07 PM
Stop posting flame baits.

Yeah, or this thread will end up like my "Terrible Games" thread :(

Terminator 3

God, I forgot about that game! :o That game was repetitive as hell.

SyntaxN
08-31-2006, 07:19 PM
Deus Ex: Invisible War...I expeted a sequel to one of the best games on earth (a Deus Ex 2) and I got *this*. Not a bad game when you take away the Deus Ex but I think itīs unworthy to be called Deus Ex 2.

Doom 3, I was soooo disappointed when I played this one for the first time. For me it looks like they totally overworked the original concept they had (more of a survival shooter) and turned it into a simple shooter. Sad, sad story that the game that drove me into FPS gaming failed to excide me when I played it. Today I like the game, got over the shock :insomnia:

Perfect Dark Zero...eh :mryuck:

More to come.

Telee
08-31-2006, 07:35 PM
Oh, and Paper Mario: The 1000 year door

I never was able to beat the final boss on that game, waaaaaay to hard :mryuck:

avatar_58
08-31-2006, 07:54 PM
SyntaxN - much of why people hate sequels is failure to live up to the originals. If you ignore the name sometimes you can see there is a damn fine game underneath. :) I've known several games that fall under that category.

someguy2435
08-31-2006, 08:14 PM
Terminator 3: War of the Machines - Goddamn I tried so hard to like it. Horrible. A complete, unredeemable mess.

Quake 3: the lack of singleplayer really put me off. When I came back after getting a good liking for deathmatch I found the game fun, and the bots were pretty cool.

Xerxes
08-31-2006, 08:28 PM
Deus Ex: Invisible War: Cause it was horrible compared to the normal Deus Ex.. Warren Spector, what have you done?! (well, it was his buddy, but still)

Damien_Azreal
08-31-2006, 08:30 PM
^^^ Yeah, Spector didn't do DX:IW... he did Thief 3. ;)

Llama Gibbz
08-31-2006, 08:34 PM
1.Quake 4
I didnt like having squad mates and i didnt care for the MP.
Id sooner play quake 2.

2.Prey
Too short.
Although it was fun.:)

3.Never seeing a game from black isle or looking glass ever again.:(

4.Raven never resurrecting the hexen/heretic franchise.

Phayzon
08-31-2006, 08:37 PM
4.Raven never resurrecting the hexen/heretic franchise.

And base it on what? The Serpent Riders are all dead.

jimbob
08-31-2006, 08:40 PM
dissapointed in lack of a new carmageddon, one of the few games that could really need a revamp with modern technology!

and lack of a new Soldier of fortune game.

last game i played that felt dissapointing was Quake4, i like quake2 a lot, but this just aint the same :(

Telee
08-31-2006, 08:45 PM
And base it on what? The Serpent Riders are all dead.

Prequel, maybe?

Phayzon
08-31-2006, 08:52 PM
Prequel, maybe?

I think those people just lived everyday crisis-free lives... until the Serpent Riders came.

Paroxysm
08-31-2006, 09:02 PM
MDK2 - totally missed the spirit of the first game.

Llama Gibbz
08-31-2006, 09:06 PM
And base it on what? The Serpent Riders are all dead.

If id can rehash the original d00m.
Raven could retell the serpent riders story.

Hexen or Heretic would be awesome in the age of bump mapping and hdr.

Phayzon
08-31-2006, 09:07 PM
^
Ah, yes.

Telee
08-31-2006, 09:20 PM
Or maybe they can tell the story of another person fighting the Serpent Riders, like Doom 3 ROE.

Mountain Man
08-31-2006, 09:35 PM
Biggest disappointments for me:

Empire Earth
Guild Wars: Factions

Phayzon
08-31-2006, 09:57 PM
Or maybe they can tell the story of another person fighting the Serpent Riders, like Doom 3 ROE.

I guess that person would have to lose then. Since there were only three Serpent Riders, and there never were more (4+ following the Order of the Triad [something like that]? I dont think so).

Telee
08-31-2006, 10:00 PM
I guess that person would have to lose then. Since there were only three Serpent Riders, and there never were more (4+ following the Order of the Triad [something like that]? I dont think so).

Eh, you lost me. I've never played Heretic/Hexen (other than the demos) so I don't know who the Serpent Riders are, etc :p

Phayzon
08-31-2006, 10:06 PM
Wikipedia :)

Phait
08-31-2006, 10:22 PM
Doom 3

Quake 4 demo (well I knew it was Quake 2 redux, but wow they really dropped it in almost every department except human modeling here)

Claws
08-31-2006, 10:25 PM
Huge disappointments:
Deus Ex 2
Silent Hill 4
Doom 3
Fable
Stalker (I know it's not out yet, but it's changed a lot)

Not-so-huge disappointments (expected/didn't care too much/not that bad):
Max Payne 2
KoTOR 2
Half life 2 (loading times mainly)
Boiling Point
Condemned (way too simple, hoped for more complexity a la Silent Hill)
Quake 4 (Expected crap from Raven a.k.a. the kings of generic games)
Anachronox (half the game was cut, way too buggy when it came out)

Dr. Kill
08-31-2006, 10:29 PM
1. Driv3r. I waited through 3 long delays, each of wich were at least 3 months long, for one of the most unpolished games in history. The game is so glitchy, and poorly produced that I wonder how it was ever let to be released.

GTA San Andreas. They promised graphics that were "GTA 3 on XBox" quality (real time reflections and lighting), and ragdoll physics, along with "no loading times", and didn't deliver. The game's boring countryside made going from one city to another a chore. It could've been so much better. I had to wait for rival company, Volition to give me what Rockstar wouldn't. Granted, SA was a last gen game, but Rockstar should've just waited, and begun work on their next gen title instead.

Quake 4 (360 port). Horrid frame rate, and smeary textures. The 360 version of Prey puts it to shame. It's much more detailed, and yet runs at a smooth 30fps, as opposed to the choppy 12-60fps that Q4 offered.

Red Faction II. The first one is still one of my all time favorite shooters. The second one, on the other hand, barely had any geo mod, wich was the main draw for the first game. The game had that lame Halo feel. :mryuck:

Yatta
08-31-2006, 10:34 PM
Doom 3 and Unreal 2, for me.

List games that disappointed you the most(something different than "best games of yer life").

My list(in no particular order): Blood 2, The Suffering Ties That Bind, Call of Duty 2, Prince of Persia The Two Thrones, Diablo 2.
I don't know about the other games, but CoD2 wasn't a disappointment for me. Unless you fell for their pre-rendered TV commercials.

1.Quake 4
I didnt like having squad mates and i didnt care for the MP.
Id sooner play quake 2.

2.Prey
Too short.
Although it was fun.:)

3.Never seeing a game from black isle or looking glass ever again.:(

4.Raven never resurrecting the hexen/heretic franchise.
Quake 4 was okay. Prey wasn't too short IMO. It was just right.

Cleric
08-31-2006, 11:50 PM
1.Cold Fear - This looked like a really promising game. It ended up pretty bad, IMO. A good selection of weapons was all it had, really. The story was good, but a little "generic horror movie"-like in it's predictability (spolier below), and there were only about 4 monster types, including the one boss at the end. Muffled sounds and confusing, short cutscenes didn't help either. But it still provided a wee bit of fun.

The end boss (and biggest, meanest monster out of them all) is the heroine's father, the one responsible for the creation of said monsters

2.Metal Gear Solid 3 - Don't get me wrong, I love this game, it's one of my favorites. But before it was released, magazines and websites were praising all the open-ended environments, and how guards "actively patrolled" in small, close groups of 3 or 4. Shifts between day and night were supposed to effect Snake's condition, and the cure system was overrated - I really don't think it was necessary at all, almost more of a nuisance. I was basically disappointed because of the lack of all of these features that were suposedly all ready and set to go in the game, then got taken out.

Kalki
09-01-2006, 12:28 AM
FarCry - especially after what everyone said about it. It was like seeing the emperor without his clothes. :mryuck:

Roger
09-01-2006, 01:29 AM
I think Pariah could have worked if they gave it the slightest degree of polish.

psyborg
09-01-2006, 02:32 AM
I think Pariah could have worked if they gave it the slightest degree of polish.

after a bunch of patches if ended up being pretty decent, but i do see what u mean.

can't jump on the "doom3 was a dissapointment" bandwagon as it was everything great about the original doom just scarier and with incredible sound/graphics etc, perhaps a little repetitive but otherwise an amazing game.

with suffering: ties that bind was actually the opposite of dissapointment for me, i was surprised it was a decent game after playing that sorry excuse for a game that preceded it.

i guess the biggest dissapointment for me was GRAWpc, even though it was a pretty cool game i was actually fooled into believing the original E3 trailer cg graphics were how the game was really gonna look, not even close. and they removed alot of the futuristic stuff shown in that trailer to please the pc tactical fans.

Hyperactive Slob
09-01-2006, 02:42 AM
Fear- I played hell out of the demo and MP demo and I expected way too much from it, didn't find it scary at all and got bored at the end. Altough I'm thinking of giving it another chance.
Kotor 2- Horrid ending and most of the great content was cut to make it to the christmas deadline.:mryuck:

Assault
09-01-2006, 02:53 AM
C&C: Tiberian Sun
Dune 2000
Kotor 2

and most of all... Dues Ex 2. Still hurts to think such a masterpiece got one of the worst games for a sequel in the world.

Nihilanth
09-01-2006, 02:55 AM
No doubts, Deus Ex Invisible War. No other game disappointed me so much, ever.

Shlubalubs
09-01-2006, 03:14 AM
BattleFeild 2 has been a real kick in the gut for me but for more technical issues than gameplay. Even though its fine in Single player, when i go multiplayer it jutters and stops dispite me having a good ping. Also for some strange reason, it some times just gets stuck trying to contact the account server or a server so you have to Ctrl+alt+delete your way out. It even crash's to desktop sometimes when you have finished loading a map and try to join in a game.

Krust
09-01-2006, 03:29 AM
Doom 3: Accepting they made it a horror-shooter was not a problem, although it didn't seem to work for me by just spawning the same monsters all over the place. It could (imho) have been a lot better if they waited longer between enemies, and made them more part of the scenery (hiding in vents, stalking you from behind pipes, crashing through windows).

And a bit disappointed that we'll probably never see a new Tie-Fighter game (or something like that) again. I'm not very interested in traveling half of galaxy, trading or being hired to kill some pirates or something. No siree, I want to be dropped from a mothership, in the midst of battle, with specific orders.

Rider
09-01-2006, 03:58 AM
*Knucklecracking sounds*

* C&C Tiberian Sun
* C&C Generals (It's not a bad game, just not a C&C game)
* Quake 4
* Serious Sam 2
* Halo 2
* Settlers IV
* Blood 2
* Half-life 2

Twin
09-01-2006, 04:04 AM
Oblivion (the pace is too slow)

Prey (i was expecting more)

Perfect dark zero (that game was so bummed i was expecting the best fps ever...i was treated to probably the worst fps ever)

Animal crossing wild world (could've been alot better but it was basically a cut down version of the GC game with online mode)

shadow the hedgehog (cars and guns spoilt the whole thing)

sonic heroes (after the adventure series i was expecting this to be great but it was just too slow for a sonic game)

Doom 3 (got a little bit too repetitive after a while)

The Movies (just wasn't what i expected)

Sin episodes (i actualyl liked this, but wasn't as good as i thought it'd be, especially after all the DNF bashing ritual do :rolleyes: )

Halo Series (same reason as perfect dark zero)

Giest (starts off brilliant but slowly becomes boring)

and that's all i can think of at the moment

Kit
09-01-2006, 04:34 AM
Sonic Adventures
Would someone like to explain to me why I'm holding a fishing rod in a freak'in Sonic game!?

Resident Evil 4
I'm a HUGE resi fan, I own every game on every platform so you can imagine my horror when I played through to find no puzzles, no plot no freak'in Zombies!

Far Cry
Could of very easily been a Half Life 2 beater were it not for the plot and some of the worst monsters of all time.

Halo
Nuff said.

Any game by EA
I swear in a parallel universe somewhere EA are called Rare or 3Drealms.

December Man
09-01-2006, 05:23 AM
I don't know about the other games, but CoD2 wasn't a disappointment for me. Unless you fell for their pre-rendered TV commercials.



LOL, no. I hadn't even seen those commercials before I bought the game. I was expecting a 100% better multiplayer which was totally n00bified to the point, where CoD1, even without the ingenious expansion UO, was much better and single player was simply overdone.

crunchy superman
09-01-2006, 05:38 AM
It's tough for me to decide between Serious Sam 2, Unreal 2 or Deus Ex 2 for which one was the greatest disappointment.

Hmm, I guess I'll say Serious Sam 2, as it was a pretty simple concept to have gone so far astray. :(

MAT
09-01-2006, 06:56 AM
Halo PC - i saw no single original feature in this game. boring as hell.

Quake 4 - enemies sucked. the plot sucked. stroggification sucked.

Pool of Radiance- it was a joke. the spell effects were cool though.

Area 51- a very very generic shooter. and with very very bad gfx.

Lionheart Legacy of the Crusader- Hard to believe it was made by Blackisle.

big fat lazy
09-01-2006, 08:09 AM
Deus Ex Invisible War
Halo
Fear
Oblivion
Resident Evil 4
Max Payne 2

Blade Nightflame
09-01-2006, 08:35 AM
Max Payne 2 was great. IMO.

Now, for my list, it'd have to be:

Quake III Arena.
Halo.
Doom 3.
SiN Episodes.
Soldier of Fortune 2: Double Helix, not quite what I expected for a game as good as SoF was..

FullMetalJacket
09-01-2006, 08:40 AM
Quake 3, SoF 2 and Unreal 2 were all games that I'd looked forward to for years and was severely disappointed in.

DX: IW definitely takes the point though. Disgustingly buggy, graphics that looked worse than the first game, a hideously redesigned arsenal and HUD, an uncompelling story, being able to kill JC Denton, and overall just a half-assed console port.

FrozeN91
09-01-2006, 08:41 AM
Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil - Boring, nothing new. I mean, there were new stuff but it all "felt" old.

SiN Episodes - Pretty much everything was bad. I nearly uninstalled the thing, but decided to complete it first.

Mongorian
09-01-2006, 08:49 AM
Battlefield 2. Not because the gameplay is bad. Because everything besides the gameplay, like EA, the patches, and the general feeling of the game being held together by glue. It's almost painful to enjoy.

And of course Serious Sam 2. Like said earlier, it was a really simple concept to butcher.

Talos
09-01-2006, 08:59 AM
Halo PC sucked big time
Sacred
Elite Force II
Titan Quest

On a side note: I'm beginning to think that I'm one of the few that actually love doom 3 and quake 4 - I think both are excellent shooters!

Rizlaboy
09-01-2006, 09:23 AM
Deus Ex: Invisible War. The first was a masterpiece, how did they make such a mess of this sequel?
Serious Sam 2. Dumbed-down console fodder.

psyborg
09-01-2006, 09:23 AM
On a side note: I'm beginning to think that I'm one of the few that actually love doom 3 and quake 4 - I think both are excellent shooters!


same here.

Phayzon
09-01-2006, 10:13 AM
Wow. No love for Halo. :( What was so bad about it?

Tang Lung
09-01-2006, 10:14 AM
Wow. No love for Halo. :( What was so bad about it?

It's fans :tinyted:

Phayzon
09-01-2006, 10:16 AM
Yeah, I guess that would do it. Most Halo fans are *******s.

EDIT: Wow, automatic censoring

psyborg
09-01-2006, 10:22 AM
Wow. No love for Halo. :( What was so bad about it?

imo its just dumb, after an hour or so of playing i came to the conclusion that it is intended for children. not into kids games myself.

Sang
09-01-2006, 10:26 AM
Deus Ex - for the most part it didn't suck at all but Dragon's Tooth Sword + Walton Simons = Anticlimax (yeah I know he's not the end boss but still I would have expected something bigger)

Unreal 2. When I'm not completely in the mood for it, it just sucks. Unreal could make me in the mood for it while playing it, too bad Unreal had too much levels and when I replay it I usually lose interest in it around the Skycity levels.

Serious Sam 2. The game didn't completely suck but I expected much more from it. I guess the problem is that it was primarily developed for the X-Box which led to several unpleasant things for a PC game. Here's hoping Serious Sam 3 will be better (and not primarily developed for consoles, like the original games which had excellent controls ;))

RTS games in general. They are fun for a few days or a week but after that they're just.. meh. Unless you can play it online with a friend. But other than that, meh.

SyntaxN
09-01-2006, 10:50 AM
It's fans :tinyted:
You could say that about the fans of every game. Halo is just damn popular so more people, more idiots.

alpha400
09-01-2006, 12:04 PM
SOF2 - wasn't nearly as fun as the first one...

half-life 1/2 - they are good, but I don't know why they should have
revolutionized the FPS-genre? also hardly any music in-game...

shenmue - great graphics, but I always felt asleep when playing
this...

ZuljinRaynor
09-01-2006, 12:15 PM
Halo (POS)
Halo 2 (Even bigger POS)
Splinter Cell 2 (Didn't like it like 1 or 3)
Unreal (Just the first one made me never pick up anything with "Unreal" in the title.)
Guild Wars: Factions (Loved the first campaign but I couldn't get pulled in by the second.)
C&C Generals (It's not C&C)

gt1750
09-01-2006, 03:12 PM
All NFS games since Porsche Unleashed. NFS:HP2 at least had good vehicle line-up but it was too consolish, didn't like the game system at all. NFSU was bad and NFSU2 even worse. NFSMW had better vehicle line-up, but you still have to race against pimpmobiles. And who the hell needs a B-movie story in a racing game? :mad:

dissapointed in lack of a new carmageddon, one of the few games that could really need a revamp with modern technology!


QFT

McDit
09-01-2006, 03:16 PM
Deus Ex 2
I could start crying thinking of this.:( :(

Telee
09-01-2006, 03:17 PM
On a side note: I'm beginning to think that I'm one of the few that actually love doom 3 and quake 4 - I think both are excellent shooters!

I loved Doom 3 and Quake 4 as well, I don't know why people thought Doom 3 was boring :confused:

Anyway, Medal Of Honor: Rising Sun dissapointed me. They even tried to make the last level like the end of a James Bond movie :mryuck:

Hudson
09-01-2006, 03:22 PM
Halo - Monotonous and completely uninspired. Included co-op so you can be bored with a friend.

Halo 2 - See above description but include the worst ending for any sequel of any medium ever created by man.

Doom III - Shot itself in the foot attempting to please both diehard Doom 1/2 fans while trying to snatch a few horror fans as well.. ended up lackluster in both areas. Not innovative or inspired in any way. Boring multiplayer tied down with horrible lag.

Quake IV - Learned no lessons from Doom III except to put a flashlight on two weapons, the same boring gameplay mechanics for the entire short 6-7 hour campaign, laggy Q3A-esque multiplayer that's not nearly as fun as the actual Q3A.. that came out six years earlier.

Battlefield 2 - Optimistic looking sucessor shot down by horrible bugs, crashes, visual defects, system-stopping glitches and some of the absolute worst technical support ever. Also, shitty shovelware expansions gave players an edge over "vanilla" users.

Deus Ex : Invisible War - A decent game if under any other name besides "Deus Ex", however as a sequel it fails at life. Disembowled gameplay mechanics and "short-bus friendly" interface destroyed any last remaining hope for fans of the original. Replaced kickass trenchcoat wearing JC Denton with his snotnose emo clone.

I can keep going almost forever..

Phayzon
09-01-2006, 04:52 PM
Quake IV - ... laggy Q3A-esque multiplayer

Your system, connection, or servers your joining just sucks then. The only lag I've ever experienced is graphical lag, which goes away after ive taken in all the scenery at least once.

Technically this could be one:

DNF - Taking so damn long :tinyted:

Yatta
09-01-2006, 05:16 PM
LOL, no. I hadn't even seen those commercials before I bought the game. I was expecting a 100% better multiplayer which was totally n00bified to the point, where CoD1, even without the ingenious expansion UO, was much better and single player was simply overdone.
I never tried the multiplayer, except for 10 minutes on some Xbox 360 kiosk. CoD is good for the SP anyway. :p

Hudson
09-01-2006, 05:57 PM
Your system, connection, or servers your joining just sucks then. The only lag I've ever experienced is graphical lag, which goes away after ive taken in all the scenery at least once.

Three strikes, I think it has more to due with the fact that the Doom III engine just has horrible netcode.. just about all its games suffer in some way, shape, or form.

Another dissapointing game would have to be Medal of Honor : Pacific Assault. Such a desperate attempt to reclaim the glory stolen by Call of Duty.

Bludd
09-01-2006, 06:45 PM
Doom 3 and Quake 4. :(
Yes, and Serious Sam 2.

ZuljinRaynor
09-01-2006, 07:07 PM
Battlefield 2 - Optimistic looking sucessor shot down by horrible bugs, crashes, visual defects, system-stopping glitches and some of the absolute worst technical support ever. Also, shitty shovelware expansions gave players an edge over "vanilla" users.
Actually only one expansion gives you extra guns. But they aren't an edge. I recently started using the vanilla guns, M16 and AK-101 and I'm doing better than with the other guns. But yeah... it's the worst coded piece of crap ever.

d3ad connection
09-01-2006, 07:09 PM
Quake 4 and Blood 2.

Needle
09-01-2006, 07:24 PM
Master of Orion III - It still burns.
Black & White - "So when is this goint to start being fun?"
Deus Ex 2 - There is no Deus Ex 2

Imfamous
09-01-2006, 07:37 PM
I pretty much agree with everything in Hudson's list... Halo, Halo 2, Deus Ex IW... I'd add to my last though Half-life 2 and Renegade.

Bludd
09-01-2006, 07:45 PM
I don't know how the SF expansion to BF2 gives any kind of advantage over vanilla players. You don't get SF stuff in vanilla BF2 maps.

Phayzon
09-01-2006, 07:56 PM
I don't know how the SF expansion to BF2 gives any kind of advantage over vanilla players. You don't get SF stuff in vanilla BF2 maps.

Can SF players even join vanilla servers, and vice versa?

Bludd
09-01-2006, 08:03 PM
Not when SF is loaded. Only SF when SF is loaded and only BF2 when BF2 is loaded.

Soothsayer
09-01-2006, 09:34 PM
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire. This game rocked my belief in Lucasart's ability to produce consistently high quality games.

Babe
09-01-2006, 10:46 PM
1. Unreal II The Awakening : Cause it just turned out to be an eye candy.
2. Doom 3 : Absolute repeatitive game from first to last. Zero scary factor.
3. Quake 4 : Various scenerios/enviroments patched together in a useless story line. Too short.

Surprising my best games are actually related to these games. The original Unreal is still a great game to play IMHO. The original Doom is still fun to play, and Quake 3 is still my no.1 game.

Echo Black
09-02-2006, 01:36 AM
Here follow the Top 5 gaming disappointments to me. Don't get jumpy over most of them being popular and successful. It's only obvious disappointment can only happen when something *IS* hyped and receives media/community attention.

5: Doom 3 - Uninteresting pace and you're always aware it's a game because of the lack of attention on iD's part. I cannot stand listening to these PDA recordings with a silent background and no effort to immerse me whatsoever. A base being invaded by hellish beasts has studios available at all places for its employees to record their voice logs with absolute silence whenever they want? Funny. Also, the way the guns sound. The Shotgun noise itself should be the PISTOL sound, minus the pumping. It was that bad. Ed Lima once addressed on this around these parts by saying you're supposed to feel underpowered against the enemies by having weak-sounding guns and such. Didn't really work for me, the sense of dread should come from what the enemies can do, not from my shotgun still being very useful and damaging but sounding like a nerf gun. Oh, and the gameplay was repetitive, and the puzzles were an offense to players with brains.

4: Quake 4 - Not meaning to hate on the Doom 3 engine specifically, but this game actually made me a little sad. Raven is not that bad, but they dropped the ball with this one. The single player was MUCH better than Doom 3's, but I play Quake deathmatch since the early days of having to type your friend's address on the TCP/IP dialog box, on an almost daily basis (through every Quake title, but mostly Quake 3), and this game's MP is an offense to the Quake name. I once addressed this with a comprehensive post in this forum. It's Quake made easier for some reason, the latest patch was a definite improvement but the Lightning Gun still defies Quake's DM logic, for example (it is the slowest ammo-spending LG on the Quake series, and for such a powerful and versatile weapon, on a game with oversized hitboxes...You do the math), and they decided to implement an horrid new netcode wich sets the interpolate window much higher than it should be, so you get a considerable hitbox lag behind the player even on LAN settings because (of course, the highest the ping, the worse) of this dumb engine lock. No wonder CPL rolled back to Quake 3 (Actually CPMA with VQ3 settings) for their main DM game this season.

3: Half-Life 2 - I feel a little bad "bashing" this game because I did enjoy it. I'm not meaning to hate on all the popular FPS titles, mind you. This was a great game by itself, but as someone pointed out with the Deus Ex: IW example, it's just unworthy of being a Half-Life sequel (to me, at least). The AI was worse than the first HL's in my eyes (Combine soldiers constantly suicided on their own overly bouncy grenades, and barely strafed at all) and the enemies felt uninteresting for the most part. Gotta admit the physics were really fun, and Garry's Mod + CSS (Even though I like 1.6 much more for obvious reasons if you read my Quake 4 comment) are good games and solid "mods" for the Source engine. Looking forward to Team Fortress 2, but haven't played any HL2 episode so far because I can't care about the plot anymore. I used to love HL's plot. HL2 advanced it too little, and I lost interest :(. I don't want to buy the "episodes" to keep up with it, but I'll most likely buy Ep. 2 for Portal/TF2. But I miss the days where I thought the G-man was DA SHIZZ.

2: Warcraft 3 - This game is a JOKE for Blizzard RTS standards. I'm somewhat biased against Warcraft, though, and I hate medieval settings. But I love WC2, so this is probably unrelated.

1: CAN'T THINK OF ONE!!! Too many I want to place here, some are console games/related to childhood expectations so I'll leave this blank.

Twin
09-02-2006, 02:34 AM
Wow. No love for Halo. :( What was so bad about it?


personally i think if it wasn't hyped so much then nobody would feel that it was as bad as it is...

it's just the fact that in most reviews and articles the game was hailed as 'best first person shooter ever!' when it clearly isn't :p

Talos
09-02-2006, 06:00 AM
I don't like Halo because of the absolute ugly level design in buildings... Nothing but repetetive structures. Once you walk through the same tunnel the 7th time it's not fun anymore... The outddor levels were actually pretty fun - But the indoor crap destroyed the game for me.

slapnutz
09-02-2006, 10:34 AM
ooo.. my turn

Entire Game
Vivisector
Boiling Point
Silent Hill 4


Parts of Games
Dues Ex: Invisible War The whole "streamlining" (thanks for the correction Crunchy superman)
Stupidly small load areas

Half Life 2: Lack of any TRUE Boss battles
Lack of true Sniper Rifle
Lack of decent ammo capacity for Magnum

Halo 2: Finding out that the sequel still contains "The Flood" enemies

Soldier of Fortune 2 Final Boss

KOTOR 2 Realising how amazingly buggy the PC version was/is.

Place Game Name Here Finding out it uses Starforce Disc Protection:D

crunchy superman
09-02-2006, 11:22 AM
Dues Ex: The whole "streamlining"
Stupidly small load areas


You're referring to Invisible War here I take it?

NutWrench
09-02-2006, 12:09 PM
How could I have forgotten Deus Ex: Invisible War? I guess when your mind is subjected to such an overwhelming trauma, you tend to repress the memory. :D

Lain
09-02-2006, 10:13 PM
doom 3

Telee
09-03-2006, 12:36 AM
Some new ones that I just remembered:

James Bond 007 - Everything Or Nothing
Halo 2
Every single Harry Potter game

Damien_Azreal
09-03-2006, 12:41 AM
Wow. No love for Halo. What was so bad about it?

The shitty level design, limited variation between enemies, poor character growth and story progression, dull weapons and extremely bad vehicle control. PC version. ;)
Honestly, I can't stand the game. The outdoor areas seem pretty cool at first, but... soon you learn there really isn't much more to the game. And you find youself running through the same hallways fighting the same three aliens for the whole damn game.

Also, Quake and Unreal... boring as f*ck. Honeslty, I wasn't impresssed by Quake's biggest selling point... it's engine. It just didn't do it for me.
And Unreal, was way to long and way to dull. Combat wasn't fun, and neither was fighting five different variations of the same four enemies. Boss fights were rather uninspired as well.
And graphically... the game didn't strike me as revolutionary, I honestly thought Quake 2 looked better and played better.

Little Conqueror
09-03-2006, 12:52 AM
Half-Life 2 Episode One - I thoroughly enjoyed Half-Life 2, and I was expecting Episode One to really rock the boat. What do I get? Three hours of tossing energy orbs into holes, throwing cars into antlion holes, pointing flashlights at zombies, and escorting civilians.

Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil - The gravity gun seemed to be added in at the last second. To keep up with the Joneses.

Painkiller - It was like Serious Sam, only darker and even more repetitive.

avatar_58
09-03-2006, 01:02 AM
Painkiller - It was like Serious Sam, only darker and even more repetitive.

Which Serious Sam? The first and second encounter were a helluva lot more repetitive than Painkiller if you ask me. If I see another desert level in an FPS I'm going to kill someone.

Niap!
09-03-2006, 02:54 AM
Deus Ex: Invisible War
I've heard alot of people say.. "If you don't look at it as a Deus Ex game its actually pretty good" I seriously can't stop laughing when I hear that. the gameplay was extremely weak, doesn't matter who you decide to help you can switch sides at any time like all your previous actions against them never happened. I could write a novel size post about this game, but in short pretty much everything about it was crap, with a side order of more crap. take two steps forward but don't blink! you'll miss all the gaming goodness crammed into the 2cmx2cm levels!

Just thinking about that game makes me feel dirty :mryuck:

I've been disapointed by games before, but DX:IW is the undisputed champion

Lethe
09-03-2006, 03:44 AM
Oblivion - I'm totally pissed off how much it dissapointed me
Doom3
Quake4
DeusEX:IW
Desperados 2
Lionheart
Tomb Raider Legend

Piano Man
09-03-2006, 04:16 AM
1. Driv3r. I waited through 3 long delays, each of wich were at least 3 months long, for one of the most unpolished games in history. The game is so glitchy, and poorly produced that I wonder how it was ever let to be released.

GTA San Andreas. They promised graphics that were "GTA 3 on XBox" quality (real time reflections and lighting), and ragdoll physics, along with "no loading times", and didn't deliver. The game's boring countryside made going from one city to another a chore. It could've been so much better. I had to wait for rival company, Volition to give me what Rockstar wouldn't. Granted, SA was a last gen game, but Rockstar should've just waited, and begun work on their next gen title instead.

Quake 4 (360 port). Horrid frame rate, and smeary textures. The 360 version of Prey puts it to shame. It's much more detailed, and yet runs at a smooth 30fps, as opposed to the choppy 12-60fps that Q4 offered.



1 & 2) Completely agree with you... they were pretty lame

3) You need a better graphics card... sorry, but there was nothing wrong with the programming of the game, and it didn't have smeary textures. You need a better graphics card....... either that or you were too dumb to change the graphics settings from 'low' to 'high'....

I have an X800 and the thing ran smooooth as. And prey runs just as well Q4.

Petruchio
09-03-2006, 05:02 AM
I thought Monkey Island 4 was kind of dissappointing... but I don't usually hype games up *that* much so I'm not usually dissappointed.

sawn_off
09-03-2006, 05:22 AM
Vice City, Max Payne 2, Hitman 2.

When I played Driv3r it went smooth, and I fell in love with the camera and the cars. Something in the series just makes the cars a little bit more. What is it with Dr. Kill and putting down games for mild tech stuff?

Duoae
09-03-2006, 05:31 AM
3) You need a better graphics card... sorry, but there was nothing wrong with the programming of the game, and it didn't have smeary textures. You need a better graphics card....... either that or you were too dumb to change the graphics settings from 'low' to 'high'....

You might want to change that before Dr. Kill replies to you... cause he said "360 port" not PC.

It was a pretty nasty response...

peoplessi
09-03-2006, 06:10 AM
Half-Life, I really thought it would be a experience par Deus Ex, but it wasn't. Mainly due the fact I was expecting too much of it after the rave reviews. Half-Life 2 and Episodes are far better in my book.

Tang Lung
09-03-2006, 06:15 AM
Oblivion - I'm totally pissed off how much it dissapointed

You could always try the Oscuro Oblivion Overhaul 1.3 mod, made the game actually worth playing imo.

Damien_Azreal
09-03-2006, 08:47 AM
Vice City, Max Payne 2, Hitman 2.



Care to explain what about MP2 you found to be disappointing? Just curious, this is the first time I've ever heard of someone not likgin the game for any reason.

Lethe
09-03-2006, 08:54 AM
You could always try the Oscuro Oblivion Overhaul 1.3 mod, made the game actually worth playing imo.

Looks interesting. I will try it. Thanks...

Lethe
09-03-2006, 09:01 AM
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ZuljinRaynor
09-03-2006, 01:36 PM
Care to explain what about MP2 you found to be disappointing? Just curious, this is the first time I've ever heard of someone not likgin the game for any reason.

I didn't like MP2 that much either. It was easier; the story was lamer IMO; and also I didn't like the changes they made to some of the characters. :p

Spartan_234
09-03-2006, 02:27 PM
Gore: Ultimate Soldier
After 5 years in development, I was severely disappointed with this budget-priced retro shooter. Awful level design, poor AI (both friendly and enemy), unoriginal enemies, and a rushed feel (when walking, you feel like you're "floating" around the levels) make all of us wonder why it took that long. Oh, and before you ask, I loved Serious Sam and Painkiller.

Psychotoxic
Another long-in-development shooter that wasn't even close to being worth the wait. I could go on and on and on about the irritating bugs that plague the game, but it's not like it would be worth playing anyways. With awful level design, uninspired "key-hunt" mission objectives, horrendous controls, and infuriating jumping puzzles, Psychotoxic is just so awful, you'll throw a party when you finally finish the game.

Malice
In development for 3 years by FX Fighter developer Argonaut Games, this uninteresting and poorly designed platformer again proved that long development times do not necessarily mean a quality product.

Little Conqueror
09-03-2006, 02:36 PM
Which Serious Sam? The first and second encounter were a helluva lot more repetitive than Painkiller if you ask me. If I see another desert level in an FPS I'm going to kill someone.

And if I have to play one more cemetary level, I'll do the same. Serious Sam held my attention. Painkiller didn't.

0marTheZealot
09-03-2006, 03:41 PM
Care to explain what about MP2 you found to be disappointing? Just curious, this is the first time I've ever heard of someone not likgin the game for any reason.

I didn't like MP2 as much as MP1. It was very short (beat the game in about 3 hours), very easy (I hate adaptive difficulty, it does nothing), and the story was pretty shitty. Plus, the sequel was wholly unnecessary, considering that MP1 ended on a fairly definitive note.

Piano Man
09-03-2006, 09:08 PM
Oooooops.... OK... I didn't see the XBox 360 Port bit... my fault.

I apologise.

doubleR
09-03-2006, 10:02 PM
1. Red Faction 2
2. Pariaha
3. Doom 3

Dr. Kill
09-03-2006, 10:22 PM
Saint's Row's online play. Expected a LOT more.

Dead Rising's lame "save" system.

big fat lazy
09-03-2006, 10:48 PM
Care to explain what about MP2 you found to be disappointing? Just curious, this is the first time I've ever heard of someone not likgin the game for any reason.

Bullet-time wasn't nearly slow enough, the overall character and story of MP2 wasn't nearly as cool, and they replaced young cool Max with the older, mid-life crisis Max. It didn't have that melodramatic action movie feel of the first.
But I still like it :).

Destroyer
09-03-2006, 11:43 PM
command & conquer Generals.
what a crappy game that was.

MAT
09-04-2006, 05:16 AM
The Bard's Tale

Dull controls, lame jokes, mostly repetitive hack&slash gameplay.

FireFly
09-04-2006, 05:39 AM
Halo 2- I still really enjoyed this game, but I felt it lacked the soul of the original. The outdoor segments were used effectively as a way to break up the action, but that meant their focus was diminished. There was no epic journey, as there was in the level Halo, or the level Assault on the Control Room, and I think the purity of the experience suffered as a result.

The meandering story made it harder to identify with your character and his role, and the plot was a lot more difficult to follow.

Max Payne 2 - Again, I think Max Payne 2 lacked the soul of its predecessor. The story was convoluted and the game was saturated with plot sequences - the script had doubled in size but the game wasn't any longer. I didn't like the 'darker' tone, didn't identify with the older Max Payne, and didn't like the direction they took the bullet time in.

In the original game, bullet time represents perfect clarity - being able to see things others can't. Max's body isn't changed, only his mind.

In the sequel, bullet time represents chaos and confusion as your view goes a sepia tone, and everything blurs with each reload. Max actually becomes inhuman as he begins to move faster and faster with each enemy he kills. That's not what I wanted bullet time to be.

Travis
09-04-2006, 08:47 AM
1. Red Faction 2

yeah, i agree.

nothing to do with the original, no online multiplayer on the PC version, etc, etc

peoplessi
09-04-2006, 10:48 AM
Have to disagree on FireFly's take on Max Payne 2, I really think it was fantastic, but then again it's a matter of opinions.

FireFly
09-04-2006, 11:18 AM
Oh, I liked the game; it's just that it changed the Max Payne formula and I wasn't too keen on all the changes.

Denz
09-04-2006, 11:26 AM
I haven't been disapointed to the maximum point by games, just some part where enemies are too hard to kill, just because before i wasted ammo on ragdolls.

But one missing feature, on any game, is to be able to plant knives on enemies head to take them out. Like "sneak behind the guard" and then splash knife on the head. :censored:

MAT
09-04-2006, 03:30 PM
i think Thief series had that option

Blade Nightflame
09-04-2006, 03:33 PM
Oh, I forgot to add.

Doom 2.

You heard me, Doom 2. When I played Ultimate Doom, I had fun, much. The levels were good, they were connected, there was a story to follow (somehow), the weapons and enemies in there were great. But when I tried out Doom 2, it felt just like something to cash in on Doom, the levels completly suck, the only good things are mostly the textures, monsters and music. None of the levels connect well, some of them have SERIOUS diffrenciating looks.

Just bad IMO. I'm glad Romero worked on Doom. :)

ZuljinRaynor
09-04-2006, 03:39 PM
WTF? DOOM was complete crap compared to Doom 2. Doom 2 had better levels and gameplay. :tinyted: Episode 4 in Doom 1 were more like challenge levels thus making Ultimate Doom a milking of Doom 1... unless you had Doom 1 and you can patch it.
Not to mention you can kill Romero in Doom 2. How's that for him trying to make you his bitch later on?

Telee
09-04-2006, 03:47 PM
Doom 2 was more of an expansion pack than a sequel IMO.

avatar_58
09-04-2006, 03:49 PM
When I refer to Doom I'm always referring to Doom 1 and 2. I always took them as the same game, not as a full fledged sequel. I love them both.

Phayzon
09-04-2006, 03:50 PM
While both were great games, Ultimate Doom >>> Doom II

Xerxes
09-04-2006, 05:34 PM
i think Thief series had that option
It was a blackjack though, and you use it to knock people unconsius(sp)..

You could do it with them noticing you but it took a lot of hits.

Malgon
09-18-2006, 07:27 AM
Sorry for the late post, but here is my list

Diablo 2 - I guess I had hyped it up too much for myself and I was really disappointed with the feel of the game. It was bigger and had more stuff to see and more loot to find, but it also didn't feel as tight as the first one, which to say was simple and as addictive as crack.
Not being able to just dump equipment (which couldn't be carried) on the ground made it frustrating to decide whether to keep something or sell it off.
Losing money and experience really pissed me off on many cases, and the final nail in the coffin was the lack of being able to buy mana potions. All of these were simple things which could have been rectified to make the game that much better imo. I still garnered some enjoyment from it (finished it with each character), and tried to overlook past the flaws but it never was as lean and Diablo 1 imo. :(

DE:IW - After waiting to see what could be done with the Deus Ex universe I remained pumped for the sequel for a long time. When the mixed reviews came in, I held off until it went cheap. The game was as someone previously mentioned and I didn't like what had been done. The weapons seemed to lack oomph, the setting was very bland and the whole feel of the game was weak. I did complete the game and thought it wasn't absolute tripe if you didn't think of it as a Deus Ex game, but it was, and it didn't hold a candle to the complexity of the first game. A sad state for me, even though I did try to understand some of those decisions that were made for the game.

That's the only ones I can really think of so far.

As for Max Payne 2 discussion, I enjoyed that it took a different direction and was really written with a much more serious mood, and the tone was much more realistic.
I can understand the points that people are making about it, and they are quite valid, as I did have a lot of fun with Max Payne 1, and most people were probably expecting the same [I]vibe (big movie action, cop drama) and were presented with something a little out of the norm.
Imo the story and pacing was differently structured and also much more well written and less extravagant leading to a different style than that of the first one. I enjoyed both games for because they were different in some ways, rather than MP2 being just a dull clone of the first game. That's my take on it anyway. :)

Edit: Doom 2 is the king. :cool:

Mountain Man
09-18-2006, 08:48 AM
Far Cry: It got so many great reviews that I was rather surprised at just how lackluster it really was.

Empire Earth: Coming from Rick Goodman, one of the creators of the original Age of Empires (a promising but flawed game), I expected good things from this one, but the more I played the more I was convinced that Goodman was in fact responsible for everything that was wrong with Age of Empires.

Black & White: So much wasted potential! The game started out great, and for about a week, I was sure it was the greatest game ever made, bar none, but once the shine wore off, I started to notice the little flaws, then the bigger flaws, until I suddenly realized that the game was actually deeply flawed. It's interesting to note that this game marks the beginning of Peter Molyneux's continued fall from grace.

hanged_man
09-18-2006, 09:42 AM
- Prey (I was expecting more, didnt like weapons sounds and the gameplay felt like any generic shooter and not to forget the AI but gravity tricks are still cool and the story is quite special, at last no more super american hero, well for the first time we got to see super NATIVE american hero)

- Doom3. I am a very big fan of this game, i remember following up for four years and remember playing the alpha, god cant forget that but when the final version was released i was dissapointed, its not like what they promised, it was supposed to be a survival shooter with the gritty atmosphere like the alpha had but still i enjoyed this game and finished it for about 3 times.

- doom 3: ROE.
I hoped they could deliver us what was originally promised for doom3 but instead they made it worse.

- Hitman: Silent Assassin.
I know lot of people like this baby but i couldnt but its still better than the previous ones

- Prince of Persia: Warrior Within.
I know it had better fighting mechanics but the story itself and the environments kindda got me down, i cant forget how sands of times was an excellent game ...still havent tried two thrones yet because of the stupid starforce)

- Bone
I had very high hopes for telltale guys, hope they dont dissapoint me again with sam n max

- Monkey Island 4.
I wish they didnt do this one especially after one of the best episodes.

- HL2: episode one.
God i hate the stupid puzzles, throw a ball here and escort some people there and stupid meaningless story sequences and not to forget the same stupid weapons sounds

- KOTOR 2

- C&C Tiberian Sun

- Call of cthulhu (Old trailers looked way much better than the final game)

jimbob
09-18-2006, 10:02 AM
carmageddon TDR 2000, after the great improvements done in carmageddon 2 i thought that 3 would be even better, instead we got a racing game with really small levels, hard to kill pedestrians and even harder to kill oponents. :(

Flatout, not a bad game by all means, but i was hoping for a more elaborate and longer destruction derby mode, instead i got 3 levels that somewhat poorly involved destruction derbys :( thats my only negative point about the game though.

K T Ong
09-18-2006, 10:11 AM
The Elder Scrolls games. It's to all eternity the same thing -- you are some sort of convict freed from jail for some mission, and wander by yourself around a world with repetitious details and with everyone looking at and talking to you like you're some sort of jerk, and you're never allowed to sleep in a town unless it's in an inn, and your character is a dumb mute throughout the game. Spell effects are also pathetic and undramatic. Morrowind's pretty graphics and construction set did make things a bit more interesting -- and that's about it. I quickly got bored with the game.

UT2k4. They just dropped too much of the old Unreal/UT content. Nearly all the old bots were gone. There were no more Nali and Nali temple maps. The music was not by Alex Brandon anymore.

4.Raven never resurrecting the hexen/heretic franchise.

And base it on what? The Serpent Riders are all dead.

The universe of the Riders is a fantasy universe. The Riders could always be resurrected by magic, or maybe they were not really dead. ;)

Denz
09-18-2006, 11:22 AM
The charges probleme in rome total war make the game the suckiest thing in the world. I mean, when you see 8 elefants charging, you think you are going to see the little soldier being mowed down by the elefants, but no, instead the elefants get stoped like they hit a wall, even if the run animation is still playing.

thefly
09-19-2006, 05:45 PM
I've played a lot of games that disappointed me, but the only one I can think of that still makes me angry is Master of Orion III. I don't think I've ever paid for a turd, let a lone $50 for one.

Telee
09-19-2006, 05:47 PM
Just remembered one - Minority Report :insomnia:

Dopefish7590
09-19-2006, 05:51 PM
quake 2: Quake 1 had better graphics, playability, secrets, etc..

Destructor
09-19-2006, 11:30 PM
The Dig

Played the demo and loved it. But when I got the full version I played it to where the demo left off, got stuck and never got back to it.

Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun

They changed the style of the cutscenes, they were too short and uninteresting.

Dune 2000

Cutscenes were way too short and gameplay bland.

Syberia

I heard good things about this game but I found it as boring as Hell.

But above all these I remember when I was really young I bought a martial arts game, which I thought would be like Double Dragon, but when I played it it wasn't. In fact, it was total crap and I cried. Fortuantely though, later on I bought a marvellous fighting game called Budokan, which I loved. :love:

Amakou
09-19-2006, 11:48 PM
Sonic Heroes - Wow...that game was ALL hype..I couldn't even get more than 5 bucks for it at EB Games...

Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy - would've been more acceptable if it was an expansion for JK2, but instead they tried to rerelease the same game with a horrible SP and barely changed MP...

~Amakou~

Danule
09-20-2006, 01:43 AM
Prey - was sad for me, it felt like i was playing doom 3 with really crappy boring enemies, and annoying weapons.

mega man - All the crappy new games (especially network transmition) EXEPT for the zero series (wich are really really good).

chrono cross - bad graphics.... HORRIBLE graphics, why not just keep it 2d and good and not 3d and a huge blur of colours.

resident evil zero - its really annoying having to play with 2 characters.

half life 2 episode 1 - they should have had more parts like the zombie hospital area. and it was too short. though i did enjoy the game.

avatar_58
09-20-2006, 02:06 AM
Syberia

I heard good things about this game but I found it as boring as Hell.


Thank you! I thought I was the only one who saw how boring and dull it was.

Danule
09-20-2006, 02:13 AM
i forgot about how i really hate the oblivion gates in oblivion, the side quests are really fun, and the main quest is cool untill you have to close all those oblivion gates it gets SOO boring its the same thing over and over again..... and it wasent even that fun the first time.

Malgon
09-20-2006, 08:27 AM
Carmageddon 2 left me with a kind of meh feeling, when I realised it was only a one trick pony. :(